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Cop in Gates case: I’m not racist - I gave mouth-to-mouth to black NBA player

I am not sh*tting you, people. The Cambridge cop who arrested Dr. Henry Louis Gates in his own home told the press that he’s not racist, as Gates has charged, because he tried to save the life of Celtics star Reggie Lewis 16 years ago by giving him CPR.  I was IMing with Mike Signorile when he dropped the link in from the Boston Herald and I thought he was playing me. Nope.

The Cambridge cop prominent Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. claims is a racist gave a dying Reggie Lewis mouth-to-mouth resuscitation in a desperate bid to save the Celtics superstar’s life 16 years ago Monday.

“I wasn’t working on Reggie Lewis the basketball star. I wasn’t working on a black man. I was working on another human being,” Sgt. James Crowley, in an exclusive interview with the Herald, said of the forward’s fatal heart attack July 27, 1993, at age 27 during an off-season practice at Brandeis University, where Crowley was a campus police officer.

It’s a date Crowley still can recite by rote - and he still recalls the pain he suffered when people back then questioned whether he had done enough to save the black athlete. “Some people were saying ‘There’s the guy who killed Reggie Lewis’ afterward. I was broken-hearted. I cried for many nights,” he said.

Crowley, 42, said he’s not a racist, despite how some have cast his actions in the Gates case. “Those who know me know I’m not,” he said.

Needless to say, I was laughing so hard at this that I had tears streaming down my face. OK. How many ways is this man’s reasoning absolute jackassery.  As a campus police officer who is trained in CPR, did he think he had the option to refuse to give mouth-to-mouth to Lewis? Are we supposed to think he was so heroic that he was willing to touch his mouth to the lips of a black man in front of all those people? Honestly, this only raises some seriously uncomfortable questions about Crowley’s thinking if he’s using this to somehow “prove” he isn’t racist. For instance, Lewis was a superstar, a black man, and, as Crowley observed, a human being. One presumes all human beings are equal and he would be comfortable with giving mouth to mouth to, say, RuPaul, or Halle Berry, or the janitor who sweeps the courts after a game. It’s all good, right? I don’t know what this cop is trying to get at with this tale—to show he’s down with the brown?

The real issue here, and it will likely not be discussed nearly as much as the race angle, is the class angle. Professor Gates, during his angry tête-à-tête with Crowley, tossed down the “don’t you know who I am” card (to be precise, in the report it says Gates told him he had “no idea who he was messing with”). I know that I can’t stand it when people in Gates’s position and station drop that sh*t as a trump card (trust me, I see it first-hand all the time in academia to name one field), so imagine this officer, who clearly is in a different socioeconomic universe than Gates.  It’s one thing to be a famous black b-baller dying on the floor, it’s another matter altogether when the other person might be perceived as a spoiled academic who’s looking down at you and verbally abusing you.

Now that is no excuse for Crowley’s incomprehensible arrest of Gates for yelling at him after the prof had already provided two forms of ID to prove who he is and that he lived in the residence, it’s simply another factor that must be considered in this mess—something that will obviously receive less play in the press than race, since class is also a third rail topic much of the time.

What do you think?

Oh, and about the Gates case, Crowley doesn’t offer an apology of any kind.

Though he harbors no “ill feelings toward the professor,” a calm, resolute Crowley said no mea culpa will be forthcoming. “I just have nothing to apologize for,” he said. “It will never happen.”

Irene Monroe, who guest posts every so often at my pad, also shares her view of Cambridge, its police and how race and class are at play in this incident.

Living while Black in Cambridge
Rev. Irene Monroe

None of us African-American residents of Cambridge are surprised or shocked by the humiliation and harassment Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr., 58, of Harvard University encountered at the hands of Cambridge police.

My partner, Dr.Thea James, an Emergency Room physician who would drive from home to work was stopped all the time for “driving while black.” And when the Cambridge cops realized she’s a woman, and a lesbian one at that, their unbridled homophobia surfaces. Thea now takes the bus.

My girlfriend’s kids and their friends hang out at the Cambridge’s Galleria Mall like kids do. The Cambridge police in the mall stop my girlfriend’s kids and their friends; one white and two Asians are not, because “shopping while black” is always mistaken as shoplifting.

More below the fold.
Irene Monroe continues:


These constant shakedowns of us have been deliberately on the down low to the public because Cambridge, proudly dubbed as “The People’s Republic of Cambridge, is ranked as one of the most liberal cities in America. And with two of the country’s premier institutions of higher learning - Harvard and Massachusetts Institute of Technology- that draw students and scholars from around the world, Cambridge’s showcase of diversity and multiculturalism rivals that of the U.N.

Cambridge is also proudly known for a lot of firsts in this country. For example, it was the first city in Massachusetts to issue a legal application for same-sex marriage. It’s the first major city in the country to elect an African American openly gay mayor -Ken Reeves. And Cambridge elected its first African American openly lesbian mayor in the country this year with E. Denise Simmons. Deval Patrick is the first African American governor of Massachusetts.

Cambridge is no doubt a progressive city. However, when you scratch below Cambridge’s surface there is also a liberal racism that is as pernicious, vile, and intolerant as Southern racism. But unlike Southern racism that sees race and tries to keep blacks in their place, liberal racism claims it does not. Ironically, however, Cambridge’s liberal ruling class maintains its racial boundaries not by designated “colored” water fountains, toilets or restaurants, but rather by its zip codes, major street intersections known as squares, like the renown Harvard Square; and residential border areas that are designated numbers, like the notorious Area 4, a predominately black poor and working-class enclave.

It did not matter that the call to police by a white woman, who doesn’t live on the block let alone the area, stating that two African-American men were breaking and entering into one of the expensive homes on a tree-lined street was not only false but actually Gates’s home. The woman’s call was her civic duty in preserving the neighborhood’s integrity. because after all this was happening in the zip code area of 02138, which is Harvard Square.

And it did not matter that once Gates validated his residency to the cop with a legitimate Harvard I.D. that the whole incident should have, at that very moment, ended. But instead the arresting officer called the Harvard University police to once again verify Gates occupancy in his own home.

Also, it did not matter that the suspected robber is a Harvard professor, public intellectual and recipient of the MacArthur Foundation “genius” award. (Some say this incident serves as a cautionary tale to those who want to now define America as being post-racial with the election of Obama.)

What was of great concern for both the white woman who called the police and the arresting office who eventually had to handcuff Gates was the shock and perhaps outrage they experienced seeing this unknown black man in this well-known, high income, and professional area of Cambridge breaking and entering into someone home’s and not in the city’s known and expected troubled spot- Area 4?

Segregation in this city is not only along race lines but also class. And poor working-class whites and white immigrants do not experience the fullness their white skin privilege would abundantly afford them if they too were part of Cambridge’s professional and/or moneyed class.

Area 4 has been labeled a troubled area of Cambridge, an area plagued with all the problems of urban blight and very little resources to ameliorate them. As a densely populated area, its average household income was $34,306 according the 2005 city census. Harvard Square, on the other hand, in the same year its average household income was $79,533.

Area 4 use to house the city’s police station. And white Cambridge police officers assigned to this area unabashedly target and harassingly patrol neighborhood blocks and activities of black male residents- young and old.  And their reasons for doing so can easily be attributed to the Cambridge Police Department’s lack of funds in its budget to do cultural sensitivity trainings. But their reason is just as much about this country’s horrific racial legacy between the two groups as it is also about Cambridge’s liberal ruling elite exploiting these tension by their claims to not see race, until of course, an unknown black man appears in their neighborhood

The tension escalated between Gates and Sgt. James Crowley when Gates flipped the script on him. As the person-in-questioned Gates exercised his legal right to also question:

“Is this happening because you’re a white cop and I’m a black man? Is this why this interaction is still taking place? ‘’

The charges against Gates have been dropped. But many white Cantabrigians chiming in on this incident felt that Gates was being uppity, feeling entitled, and exploiting the race card.

And who would know better about this than them.

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 03:41 PM • (112) Comments

Honestly, I’m willing to believe that Crowley wasn’t motivated by racism. Racism, racist assumptions, whatever may have played a part when the neighbor called the police on Gates, but I can see it as not being such a big factor in the arrest. What I think is probably a bigger factor in the arrest is the unbelievable fucking power trip cops get on. I think that what it says in the police report is that Gates “was abusive and belligerent”, and THAT’S why he got arrested. Just like a bunch of middle aged donors were arrested and pepper sprayed in San Diego last month, just like countless people have been tasered - for being insufficiently deferential to a cop.

Comment #1: Michael in Boston  on  07/23  at  04:03 PM

I can believe it.  Crowley couldn’t handle taking deserved abuse from a black man.  He arrested Gates to save face.  He wouldn’t have felt the need to save face if Gates had been white.

Comment #2: keshmeshi  on  07/23  at  04:06 PM

Sure, there’s a class aspect here, but who cares?  I don’t care if the cop felt snubbed or offended, and I don’t care if Gates was acting like a snobbish upper-class bourgeois attacking the common worker.  There was no crime being commited, the cop could have defused the situation simply by leaving.  The class aspect of this makes it worse, not better.  I don’t really care what the underlying reasons are for this kind of casual abuse of power, cops should not be arresting people for no legal reason.  period.

Secondly, I’m really tired of people going after the woman who called the cops.  Gates was breaking into the house, I would hope someone would call the cops.  She did the right thing. 

If somebody wants to make the point that the cops wouldn’t have been called if the Gates had been white, then it’s *those* non-callers who would be in the wrong.  In good communities, people get involved and watch out for each other.  It’s a good thing.

Comment #3: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  04:08 PM

I don’t remember anybody calling this cop a racist. He doth protest too much.

Comment #4: MysteriousTraveller  on  07/23  at  04:14 PM

Professor Gates, during his angry tête-à-tête with Crowley, tossed down the ”don’t you know who I am”

If you believe Crowley, anyway.

Comment #5: rea  on  07/23  at  04:17 PM

Sure, there’s a class aspect here, but who cares?

I do—because it’s an aspect not being discussed in all the hubbub. It doesn’t justify the cop’s actions in anyway, it is just a factor that plays out in any interaction, just as any racial bias might.

There was no reason for Crowley to bring up that asinine point about CPR on Lewis, it’s irrelevant other than to make him look like a racist dunce; and if the reporter was the one who generated the query about Lewis, then Crowley should have pointed out the reporter’s own racism for raising an irrelevant issue. Either way it’s an epic FAIL.

Comment #6: Pam Spaulding  on  07/23  at  04:21 PM

In his report, Crowley states that he thought he was talking to a “resident”.  That means the incident ends there, with him apologizing for the inconvenience.  Gates did nothing wrong, and didnt’ deserve to have a cop harrassing him as he came home from a long trip.

Gates is allowed to be grumpy.  He is allowed to be belligerant.  He’s allowed to refuse to let a police officer into his house without a warrant.

As soon as Crowley determined Gates was a “resident”, the incident was OVER.  He had no business continuing to call for backup or for doing anything other than apologizing for the inconvenience and leaving.

He knew that Gates hadn’t heard his name, and while he blamed Gates for talking over him, he admits that Gates didn’t have his name.  He refused to give it until Gates left the home where Crowley could get him.

Not only did Crowley arrest him, he also went into the house to get Gates’s cane.  HE GOT TO GO INTO THE HOUSE. 

That is arrogance, abuse of authority and priviledge.  Is it only class-based privilege?  Is it only b/c his ego was bruised?

It can’t be.  It *has* to be connected to Gates’s race, b/c part of the reason Crowley is offended is because this uppity black man is talking down to him.  He’s never dealt with uppity white men before?  No one has ever been annoyed at him ‘doing his job’ before?

There can be class issues as well, but race is most definitely a factor in class and in this incident.  Crowley needs to be fired.  He had NO BUSINESS arresting a man whose only crime was being in his own home.

Comment #7: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  07/23  at  04:24 PM

Sorry WoofWoof, but I totally disagree with you on your second point.  The real neighborly thing to do would be to ask “hey, do you need some help?”.  It was noon, on a fairly busy street.  It’s a sad commentary on our society that we’ve become so paranoid that we can accept that calling the police in that situation is an acceptable substitute to offering to lend a hand.  Even if they had been burglars, what were they going to do, beat her up in the middle of a fairly busy street at noon?  Just the other day I was walking to the bus stop when I passed an African-American woman, about Gates’ age struggling the the padlock on her garage door.  So I stopped and helped her pull open the rusty lock.  Guess I should’ve called the police instead. 

As for the cop, it almost doesn’t matter what his motivations were.  He acted in an incredibly unprofessional manner (not least in his refusal to give his name and badge number) and almost certainly lied in his report (here’s an excellent analysis of that claim: http://www.samefacts.com/archives/crime_control_/2009/07/nightmare_on_ware_street.php).  He has no right to continue as a beat officer given the way be behaved in this episode.

Comment #8: Loomer  on  07/23  at  04:35 PM

I know that severe jet lag can leave you wasted so I really feel for Gates.  But there is something about his continued shrill response that is diminishing his status.  Your average college professor probably has 30 IQ points on your average police officer, but Gates continues to be outraged.  It almost seems like some kind of inferiority complex.  He should let his lawyer handle this.

His current problem is that everyone in the PD is going to to be cowed.  If there is an emergency situation will there be a timely response . . . or any response at all?  At this point, his house is the one to hit if you’re a burglar.

Comment #9: Seth  on  07/23  at  04:37 PM

Seth, you don’t know shit.

Obama lived in Cambridge for a couple of years.  He’s probably got some stories, too.

My advisor’s son was arrested on his own front porch by Cambridge Police officers while waiting for his dad to arrive from his job to let him in.  The kid had locked himself out when he went running, and didn’t have ID to *prove* that he actually lived in a wealthy area!  Imagine that!  He couldn’t prove that he lived someplace, so his frantic parents had to find out where there son had disappeared to when they got a call to ask if they wanted to press charges!

Really, Seth.  Would you want to live like that?

That’s all I’m going to say.

Comment #10: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  04:43 PM

I do—because it’s an aspect not being discussed in all the hubbub.

Reasonable point, so let me be clearer.  You wrote “The real issue here…is the class angle.” 

Meaning what?  You think that Gates as a rich black rude person stood *more* of a chance of being arrested than a middle-class or poor rude black person?  I find that hard to imagine.  Or do you mean that race was secondary to class here, in which case we should have lots of examples of rich white people being arrested for being rude in Cambridge or Boston.  Which I’ve seen no evidence of at all.  (And for the purposes of discussion, I’m accepting Crowley’s word that Gates was rude, though never dangerous).

I suspect you’re saying that “class is the real issue” because class may have been what led to Crowley’s bruised ego.  In that case, I submit the “real issue” is the idea that cops think they can arrest people because of their bruised egos.  That’s what I mean by “I don’t care”.  Regardless of the underlying cause, Crowley believes that if somebody annoys him he can arrest that person on a pretext then drop the charges later, and Crowley has absolutely no fear of punishment or reprimand.  Lots of cops think that way, and *that’s* the real issue IMHO. 

I honestly don’t see how a national discussion of class vis-a-vis this case would be helpful at all.  Rude rich people can be annoying?  We all know that, and I submit it’s not relevant to any of the significant issues here.

Comment #11: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  04:45 PM

Oh yeah, the kid was black.  You think that made a difference?  Black kid says “I live here, I’m locked out, my dad is coming” and gets arrested and you don’t think that has anything to do with how that kid looks?  REally? 

Must be nice to live in your fantasy world of peace and harmony Seth.

Comment #12: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  04:46 PM

class angle: Professor Gates has several cards to play that your average black person may not have.  He’s using them to raise a ruckus - leveraging his privilege to right an injustice.

Maybe us straight white folk should look into that.

Comment #13: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  04:47 PM

I would’ve gotten belligerent too!!! It was the mans house! The officer should’ve simply apologized and left. End of story.

Comment #14: Laureli  on  07/23  at  04:50 PM

Shouldn’t police have known the name of the house owner before they got in there ? Or at least check the town records via radio ?
Why the hell did they require Gates to prove his ownership of the house ? All he needed was to prove he was Gates, the recorded property owner.

Comment #15: lostmypassword  on  07/23  at  04:50 PM

@Seth
The man was arrested for trying to *enter his own house*. If someone arrested me when I was obviously and verifiably doing nothing wrong, I would be outraged, too. All too often, cops get away with being bullies because their victims are afraid of them.

For once, someone was willing to challenge an abuse of power. In spite of the fact that this would cause short-term harms to them. That should be applauded, not derided. The professor is not an idiot - I don’t doubt he realized that the police officer might retaliate for being challenged. That he stood up for his rights anyway is something more people should have the courage to do.

Comment #16: jalmondale  on  07/23  at  04:58 PM

I honestly don’t see how a national discussion of class vis-a-vis this case would be helpful at all.  Rude rich people can be annoying?  We all know that, and I submit it’s not relevant to any of the significant issues here.

I submit that class is relevant here - the cop asserted his power privilege—his badge because he clearly reacted to being verbally harassed (from his POV) by Gates, either because of race, class or both. Gates has now asserted his class privilege, with his access to the MSM, including a full interview on CNN,  (and what can be higher than POTUS taking your side?!). In fact the Boston Herald even took down the police report it had online; you can’t tell me they didn’t get a phone call about that, since the portrait of Gates’s rant isn’t particularly flattering, with the “don’t you know who I am” deal. (Fortunately, I have a copy). But Gates, as Ms. Kate said above, leveraged his own kind of privilege to address the wrong.

All of this doesn’t excuse the cop’s behavior, as I said before, but I do think it’s simplistic to say it’s ONLY about race. Nothing fits that neatly into a box. And the cop’s CPR statement is so mind-blowing that it’s one for the ages.

Comment #17: Pam Spaulding  on  07/23  at  04:59 PM

Ms. Kate -

I most certainly do know what I’m talking about. 
I was arrested after a traffic stop because an officer didn’t spell my name right.  I stayed chill, had my roomie come pick me up,  posted bail, and returned to the police station and calmly discussed it with the supervisor.  The supervisor investigated, gave the officer a stern lecture, and gave me an apology.  I wasn’t happy, but it could have been a whole lot worse if I hadn’t handled the situation with some emotional maturity.

Jet lag can be awful, but I was 25 at the time.  Gates is 58!!!  He’s got to know how to stay calm and handle these situations.  He should cool down and let his lawyer deal with this.

Do you have any stories that actually happened to you?

Comment #18: Seth  on  07/23  at  04:59 PM

Even if they had been burglars, what were they going to do, beat her up in the middle of a fairly busy street at noon?

Yes.  Or rather, hit her a few times as they run past, which could easily be enough to put someone in the hospital.  It doesn’t take long to cause serious physical harm to somebody, just a few seconds can cause a lot of damage.

I think it’s a bit much to expect single women on the street to physically confront men.  If they want to, that’s fine, but I don’t think it’s required in order to be a good citizen.  Also, that confrontation simply can’t end well: either the men live there, in which case she’s just going to be embarrassed (and race plays into that in a way absolutely nobody is talking about), or they really are criminals, in which case she’s in serious danger. 

Confrontation is a reasonable response, and as you say, a preferred one.  But I don’t think it’s the required response if you think a crime is in progress.  Can we at least admit Gates’ actions were objectively suspicious: checking the door, circling the house, then coming back and forcing the door open?

Comment #19: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  05:00 PM

Both the police officer and Gates acted stupidly. There are no heroes in this story.

Comment #20: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  05:01 PM

When a friend of mine locked himself out of his house without his wallet and tried to bust in last spring, some teens who lived next door to him (and obviously didn’t know their neighbours very well—what do you want, it’s downtown living) called the cops and reported a possible break-in.

The responding officer gave him no hassles at all—he instantly gave my friend the benefit of the doubt and helped him get into his house.  The cop was white, my friend isn’t (he’s Indian—and in Canada, a racial profile re. non-terrorist criminal activity can go either way if you’re South Asian).  But my friend is instantly recognizable as “upper class” because of his dress, demeanour, speaking voice, expensive glasses…  I’d say class definitely played a role in my friend’s recent experience.

Comment #21: Ranylt  on  07/23  at  05:09 PM

There are no heroes in this story.

There are no heroes *in reality*, period. But that’s irrelevant.

Comment #22: BlackBloc  on  07/23  at  05:11 PM

Do you have any stories that actually happened to you?

I have been stopped and questioned because I was riding my bike home from work late at night, which is considered sufficient grounds to harass people by the Cambridge PD.  I was further harassed because I didn’t have identification on me - even though it isn’t required of cyclists or citizens to have photo ID on them.  Unlike other cyclists who were stopped in Cambridge and didn’t have their photo ID on them (and were not required to), I was not arrested.  (yes, people won lawsuits over this). I made it clear that I was very familiar with the law and how and why and asked the policeman to cite the statute he was operating under in stopping me and demanding that ID(knowing well that he couldn’t).

That, and I’m not obviously black.

And Seth, there is a huge difference between being pulled over at a traffic stop and being harassed at home. Do you think you would be comfortable at home if a cop entered your space and arrested and dragged you away because you didn’t *look* like you belonged there?  That is what happened to both Dr. Gates and to my advisor’s son.  They are not welcome in their own homes, according to the Cambridge Police.

But you don’t live here and you don’t know shit about how these idiots operate.

Comment #23: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  05:13 PM

WoofWoof, given where she worked and her job duties and duration of employment, there is no reason on this earth that she didn’t know Professor Gates as an acquaintance ... let alone that he lived there!

Comment #24: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  05:16 PM

There are no heroes *in reality*, period. But that’s irrelevant.

Let me expound on that.

Either of these guys could have defused the situation easily if they had just swallowed their pride at some point. Gates by showing his ID, or the police officer by calmly walking away. But they each wanted to make a big show and save face, and couldn’t check their egos to defuse the situation.

And guess what? Sometimes you need to check your ego to prevent a bad situation from becoming worse.

Comment #25: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  05:17 PM

As the son of a cop from Massachusetts I can attest to the class aspect of this—in a State where all things are political, cops are constantly fed the line “do you know who I am” by people whose claim to fame is that their cousin is a city councilman.  It’s a standard bit of annoyance on the job.

However, that is not to justify in any way what happened here.  Crowley’s job, once he ascertained that this was Gates’ residence, was to defuse the situation as much as possible.  He should have apologized for the inconvenience and the mistake and even if he caugh hell from Gates, he should have kept walking out the door.

Instead, he got all authoritarian in the way that way too many cops do nowadays.  This results in things like unnecessary arrests, gratuitous uses of force, and a general notion that because you’ve got a badge and a gun, people need to kiss your ass.

It’s not a phenomenon of which I approve—and all of these people saying we need to shut our mouths around the police are wrong.

Comment #26: Sir Charles  on  07/23  at  05:19 PM

So basically, Crowley is saying that he doesn’t want black people to die.  That’s a step in the right direction, but it certainly doesn’t mean he’s not racist.  Racism is more complex than just wanting all people of another race to die.

Comment #27: bananacat  on  07/23  at  05:24 PM

The Globe is currently reporting that Crowley taught “racial profiling classes”.

Okay.  Fine.  Sounds like he also taught “Testalying 101” and “Because I AM the law: how to make shit up, bully people, and get away with a clear conscience” courses too.

Comment #28: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  05:28 PM

“everyone in the PD is going to to be cowed.  If there is an emergency situation will there be a timely response . . . or any response at all?”

if not then the entire PD from top to bottom should be sacked

If they dont want to do thier job, thats fine
But I dont see why they should still get paid

Comment #29: jefft452  on  07/23  at  05:29 PM

given where she worked and her job duties and duration of employment, there is no reason on this earth that she didn’t know Professor Gates as an acquaintance ... let alone that he lived there!

I’m not sure what this means.  Do you think that she knew who he was, but she called the cops just to be mean or because she didn’t like him?  Or maybe because she was so racist that she saw this as an opportunity to mess with the black man who lived nearby?  Is there *anything* supporting this theory?

Or are you just suggesting that she should have known who he was, because maybe she’s seen him in the past but not noticed (which is kind of a massive anti-racism, isn’t it?)

Honestly, I have absolutely no idea what you’re getting at.  This is the first time I’ve heard anyone suggest the caller knew Gates personally.  Was there some kind of sarcasm I missed? I do that a lot.

Comment #30: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  05:34 PM

Gates could very well have been using class to put that cop down—and as I understand it, this is the cop’s version of events—and I can absolutely see how somebody doing that to me would get a really ugly reaction. And maybe it’s because my sympathies are with Professor Gates, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt, which I am not so inclined to do for the cop, because of the arrest being so bogus. You know, a belligerent while being black offense. I also think the police are completely fucking out of control, and I’ve read way too many stories about people getting tazed by cops for failure to be cowed and deferential enough. You don’t have to be polite to cops, whatever the cops may think. Professor Gates was justly pissed off, and was being harassed in his own home. He’s right; this is what happens to black men in America. If the comment was made as the cop says it was, I can’t say I blame Gates for letting him know that this time, he was definitely fucking with the wrong black man.

Comment #31: Bella  on  07/23  at  05:37 PM

Jet lag can be awful, but I was 25 at the time.  Gates is 58!!!  He’s got to know how to stay calm and handle these situations.  He should cool down and let his lawyer deal with this.

Sounds like someone who has never experienced much serious jet lag and doesn’t understand how much more seriously its effects could impact someone who is older and may not be in the best of health. 

Not everyone can be assumed to be a young healthy 25 year old in your case….or a young healthy 19 year old as I was when I took similar flights from/to the US Northeast to/from Beijing.  IME, those flights can easily be 20 hours in length with delays and stopovers/layovers not to mention the extreme time difference of 12 hours.  As a 19 year old, I had no issues with those conditions.  I do know there are people who may not be able to withstand such effects as well due to the fact they happen to be older or younger than me, in less than optimal health, had sleep deprivation, other factors, or a combination of any and all of those factors. 

Both the police officer and Gates acted stupidly. There are no heroes in this story.

Gates’ belligerency was understandable after having to put up with being interrogated even after showing his IDs…especially after just coming back from a long flight from Beijing.  As someone who has taken similar flights…with delays and long layovers…the flight time can easily be around 20 hours of cramped stressful flying….and then add the effects of jet lag from the 12 hour difference. 

The cop’s stupidity was inexcusable…the instant the cop established Gates is the legitimate resident of that home, he should have apologized for the inconvenience and walked out…...even if he was yelled and cussed at as that’s part of the job of being a professional police officer.  If he can’t take that….he may want to consider an alternative line of work. 

Moreover, the fact this police officer thinks it is ok to arrest others for yelling and cussing at him, especially if they were in their own home has serious first amendment violation implications.  What? Should W have the right to arrest those who have the temerity to call him names and criticize him harshly for his policies and attitudes? The constitutional right of citizens to criticize…even harshly their government and their agents should take precedence over the agents’ right to maintain their egos.

Comment #32: exholt  on  07/23  at  05:44 PM

Ben D.:

Either of these guys could have defused the situation easily if they had just swallowed their pride at some point. Gates by showing his ID, or the police officer by calmly walking away. But they each wanted to make a big show and save face, and couldn’t check their egos to defuse the situation.

I don’t think Gates wanted to make a big show.  He wanted the respect he was due.  And he wanted to be left alone in his own house.  The police officer challenged this, and Gates decided he wasn’t going to let it pass.

That said, there’s nothing wrong with having an ego in the first place, is there?  Why should Gates sacrifice his ego to a power-hungry asshole of a police officer just to keep the peace?  Gates has no responsibility to back down or shut up, because he is a citizen in his own home.  The police officer does, because he is on the job and has a gun and the power to arrest people. 

Gates proved he lives there, end of fucking story. 

And guess what? Sometimes you need to check your ego to prevent a bad situation from becoming worse.

Need?  You can choose to do so, but not choosing to do so doesn’t automatically make you wrong.

Sometimes a person will want to use his own privileged position to prevent a bad situation for other people from happening in the first place.  There could be an element of ego in wanting to speak out.  So what?  “He just wants to be a big hero.”  Maybe he does, but if he does good as a result, why begrudge him that? 

And why boil it down only to ego?  He’s an older man who could have been seriously injured or even killed by the police.  It happens.  He risked his body and his professional and public status on this act.  It wasn’t a foregone conclusion that he would emerge unscathed.

WoofWoof is right, also, in that a woman alone (or a man alone, for that matter) does not have any obligation to address two men she doesn’t know, breaking into a house next door, with “can I help you?”  She depended on the police to act responsibly, and they didn’t.  Race may or may not have entered into her calculation of whether she wanted to help rather than call the police.  But I do not think her calling the police absolutely convicts her of anything other than not wanting to get involved personally.

Comment #33: oldfeminist  on  07/23  at  05:48 PM

You know, I pick up my boss from his home every week, yet I don’t know which door is his.  My previous workplace had parties at the boss’s house all the time, and it was told to me what famous corner in town it was on, and even what color it was.  I still haven’t been there, even though I worked there for years, and he still lives there and considers me a friend.

Just because you have a reason to know something doesn’t mean you do know it.  Also, Gates did look a bit scruffy - of course, anyone would, coming off a transcontinental, transpacific flight.

I do take offense at the concept that this is only racial.  Because it doesn’t matter as much as people think - cops will always bust a subsection of the population, whether or not there’s a racial divide.  Younger, poorer, academic, hippie, liberal… There is some divide, race isn’t the only one we should be concerned with, here.

We should be concerned with the fact that at a reported break-in, the police arrested a man in his own home.

Comment #34: Crissa  on  07/23  at  05:49 PM

Hey, I know we don’t really warn here but I’m about to blather on about racism and I don’t want to shove it in anyone’s face if they’ve already had quite enough racist justification this week.

When you are a white racist who is particularly racist against black people, unless you are the kind of card-carrying white supremacist who says up front “I am racist and I hate black people”, you do not think to yourself, oh my, look, here is a black person, let me harass them in order to make some ideological point. No, upon interaction with said black person what crops up is a lot of subconscious tension. You might feel uncomfortable, anxious, or - very likely in a national culture that treats black men as a problem - scared or intimidated. If you are a Nice Liberal Racist, you then spend the next fifteen minutes quietly convincing yourself that you would have responded exactly the same way to a white person of the same age / gender / class talking that way / walking down that street at 3 a.m. etc. etc. etc.

I think that this is the process that’s behind most Nice White Person racist reactions, including this one. This cop doesn’t think to himself “Oh my, time to lie about my racism” when he says ludicrous things about trying to save a baseball player. He didn’t consciously think “My, time to go oppress a black man in order to make him feel disenfranchised and discourage the diversification of this affluent faculty neighborhood.” He does not think he’s racist because the racism happens with the part of his brain that he’s not consciously aware of. That’s what makes this bullshit so hard to drag out into the light and so hard to get rid of. Sgt. Crowley probably believes like most people do that he is a good person, and good people aren’t racists (because as Nice White People I think we really love to assume that “racism” equals “card-carrying Klan member”, as that leaves us mere innocent bystanders.)

Honestly, given that we live in a massively fucking racist culture, I don’t think that it’s even necessarily Nice White People’s faults that some of us have some disgusting brain debris. But fixing it is our responsibility, and in the meantime it’s a massive shame on our heads.

Comment #35: purpleshoes  on  07/23  at  05:52 PM

...Wait, Caren is complaining that after Gates was arrested, the officer went to his house to retrieve Gates’ cane?

Comment #36: Crissa  on  07/23  at  05:58 PM

And why boil it down only to ego?  He’s an older man who could have been seriously injured or even killed by the police.  It happens.  He risked his body and his professional and public status on this act.  It wasn’t a foregone conclusion that he would emerge unscathed.

But he did emerge from this with only his ego scathed.

I really can’t get outraged over this one way or the other. If he had been tased, or beaten, or verbally assaulted, then I’d be pissed off. But he spent a night in jail. Wrong of the officer to do? Yeah, he should have left. Should he be disciplined for it by his department? Yes. Should his career be ruined? I don’t think its on that level, unless there’s some other pattern of behavior like this from the officer.

Comment #37: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  06:01 PM

OTOH, again, getting mouthy with a cop (especially in your own home) is not a crime and I’m not outraged over that, either. Cops need to be able to take it, and know how to de-escalate the situation. It goes with the job.

Comment #38: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  06:03 PM

Im still trying to figure out what the officer did wrong…NOTHING!! I have been in similiar situations responding to daylight B&E;‘s, are officers supposed to assume that oh it is daylight this must be some mistake. burglars don’t break into a house during daylight hours?? So…ok it was the homeowner, the officer didn’t know that, that is why he asked for ID to prove he was the resident.  However, Gates wanted to put on a the old show of OH ME THE BLACK MAN BEING TARGETED BULLSHIT and refused at first to show who he was. Once he showed he was the resident, the officers were leaving. Gates is the one that showed his ass to the officers as they were leaving. I would have locked him up too. The fact that the prosecutor has no balls to proceed doesn’t mean it wasn’t a valid arrest.  I get so sick and tired of black people crying racism everytime they encounter the police, because we all know black people never do anything wrong, it is always the police’s fault!!!

Comment #39: cookie  on  07/23  at  06:09 PM

See, I believe the officer when he insists he isn’t racist.  And I’ll even buy that some of his best friends are black, or that rescuing people makes him not racist at all.

He did exactly what he was supposed to do, he kept order and maintained his authority.

What is entirely racist is that this is what he believed was expected of him.  Even now, the officer does not feel himself to be in the wrong, or in a position to even apologize.  He was simply doing precisely what he was supposed to do.

Which was, you know, to the rest of us who perceive reality, subdue an angry black man for being angry.

I’m sure Crowley is not overtly racist.  His actions, however, certainly were.

Comment #40: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  06:11 PM

Cookie, where do you live?  I’d like to come over and to get in your face while wearing a uniform and see if you feel protected.

Comment #41: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  06:15 PM

HavePatience, exactly how does pushing your way into a man’s home and harassing him keep order?

Comment #42: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  06:15 PM

who says the police pushed their way in and were harassing him??? perhaps his account and only his account, even a bystander said he was being an ass.

Comment #43: cookie  on  07/23  at  06:17 PM

Ms Kate, I believe the point was sarcastic. That the officer’s perception of “order” was essentially “prevent excess uppitiness”, where hopefully reality-based citizenry would see “order” as “not harrassing people in their home”, for instance.

Comment #44: purpleshoes  on  07/23  at  06:18 PM

Holy crap, was my point ever validated by the post above it.

Cookie, if you’re a troll, 4/10.

If you’re sincere, seek therapy.  Sincerely.  Go cry about what has you so pissed off. Not joking, with love and respect.

Comment #45: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  06:18 PM

WoofWoof - Lucia Whalen, who lives in Malden, is a manager at Harvard Magazine.

Unfortunately, as the police report attests, here description went no further than “black males”, even though she saw one of them get in a car with a livery plate and leave, even though Gates was using his keys, even though they were both well dressed for their jobs, even though one was older and slight.

She didn’t bother to see that.  Race panic.

Comment #46: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  06:19 PM

Thank you purpleshoes for explaining my post to Ms Kate.

Ms Kate, what purpleshoes said.

Comment #47: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  06:19 PM

Cookie, Gates told the officer to wait on the porch and the officer followed him in side and would not leave.

Sounds like a home invasion to me. 

Gee, when I worked at Harvard, we were told to NEVER let a police officer in until he or she had identified themselves, because of imposter home invasions.

Comment #48: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  06:20 PM

HavePatience, is cool.

Comment #49: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  06:21 PM

even a bystander said he was being an ass.

Being an ass IS NOT A CRIME.

If it is, I’ve been a criminal on several occasions and so has everyone else in the entire country.

Comment #50: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  06:21 PM

So instead you blindly trust the police report, Cookie?  My god I can’t believe some of the crap I’m reading in this thread.

The black man has an “ego.”  So naturally the cop’s got to arrest him for not quietly submitting to the police.  Even the police report, which is full of lies I’m sure, says Gates produced ID for the cop.

I can’t imagine some white libertarian getting accused of having an overinflated ego if he gets pissed about a cop pulling a stunt like this with him.  Where ARE the white libertarians, btw?  Look at this evidence of creeping fascism and disregard for personal property and civil liberties.  Oh but the guy’s black so better safe than sorry, right!?  Had Gates been white, the cop would have apologized and they’d have had a chuckle about how it happens to the best of us and by the way, drive safely!  There is just too much bullshit coming from white people re: this story; I am ASHAMED.

Comment #51: SarahMC  on  07/23  at  06:23 PM

Oh geez, cookie being a cop apologist. That’s something you don’t see every day. *yawn*

Comment #52: BlackBloc  on  07/23  at  06:23 PM

Ben D.:

I really can’t get outraged over this one way or the other. If he had been tased, or beaten, or verbally assaulted, then I’d be pissed off. But he spent a night in jail.

He was manhandled and his freedom was taken away!  Even if “only” for one night, I do not think this is negligible or a reasonable cost for someone to exercise his right to be left alone in his own home.

And he could have been tased or beaten.  He didn’t know what would happen if (and then when) he was arrested.  Things happen to people in jail.  That’s part of the intimidation tactic of threatening arrest and jail. 

If you think that going to jail is just being somewhere you don’t want to be for a period of time, you’re sadly mistaken.  The threat of jail is a veiled threat of assault and possibly murder.

purpleshoes:

If you are a Nice Liberal Racist, you then spend the next fifteen minutes quietly convincing yourself that you would have responded exactly the same way to a white person of the same age / gender / class talking that way / walking down that street at 3 a.m. etc. etc. etc.

If you’re a self-aware liberal racist, as I am, as most liberals are, you know that you will have intellectual, emotional, and even physical reactions that will make you do things that are racist.  You try to recognize them and then try to tell yourself to stop doing them.  Sometimes you can short-circuit it, but unfortunately the reaction is burned in there basically by years of heavy conditioning before the age of reason.

I hate it, but I don’t see any way to eliminate it in myself.  The best I can do is search for it and fight it, forever.  And try to make it so that children today don’t get these toxic ideas put into their heads until they are old enough to reject them as the rancid evil foolishness they are.

Good intentions don’t erase bad conditioning.  It’s comfortable to believe you’ve been saved by denying your racism (or sexism) and intellectually embracing equality, but by itself, that does nothing other than set you up to lie to others and yourself.

Comment #53: oldfeminist  on  07/23  at  06:24 PM

The black man has an “ego.”

I said the police officer did, too. Neither of them could check it and defuse the situation. EITHER of them could have avoided this whole clusterfuck, but each wanted to “prove” they were in charge and save face. So they both end up in worse situations than where they began. Gates went to jail, and the police officer will likely have his career ended.

Comment #54: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  06:26 PM

Ben D, you’re not getting it.  Getting over his ego is the police officer’s job.  He failed at his job.  Gates has no “job” as a citizen, he didn’t fail at anything.

Comment #55: oldfeminist  on  07/23  at  06:28 PM

<q>Im still trying to figure out what the officer did wrong…NOTHING!! I have been in similiar situations responding to daylight B&E;’s, are officers supposed to assume that oh it is daylight this must be some mistake. burglars don’t break into a house during daylight hours?? So…ok it was the homeowner, the officer didn’t know that, that is why he asked for ID to prove he was the resident.  However, Gates wanted to put on a the old show of OH ME THE BLACK MAN BEING TARGETED BULLSHIT and refused at first to show who he was. Once he showed he was the resident, the officers were leaving. Gates is the one that showed his ass to the officers as they were leaving. I would have locked him up too. The fact that the prosecutor has no balls to proceed doesn’t mean it wasn’t a valid arrest.  I get so sick and tired of black people crying racism everytime they encounter the police, because we all know black people never do anything wrong, it is always the police’s fault!!!</q>

Cookie, I’ve decided you were serious, in which case I apologize for my quip about therapy.  Let’s discuss this rationally and respectfully.

I take it from context that you are or have been a member of Law Enforcement.  Have the majority of your interactions with people of color been through your job?  Whether or not, how would you characterize the majority of your interactions with people of color?

Comment #56: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  06:30 PM

Ben D, you’re not getting it.  Getting over his ego is the police officer’s job.  He failed at his job.  Gates has no “job” as a citizen, he didn’t fail at anything.

Fair enough.

Comment #57: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  06:30 PM

That is the part I didn’t include, Ben D.  Gates is not responsible for calming a police officer down or diffusing a tense situation.

Comment #58: SarahMC  on  07/23  at  06:32 PM

You’re right, Sarah, and I think that’s a good point about it being the police officer’s job to overcome his ego and defuse a tense situation.

If there’s racism in this, it will surely show up in a pattern of previous incidents that are on file with his department. Racism isn’t a one-off thing, it will show up again and again if it’s there. That’s the “George Allen” rule.

Comment #59: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  06:36 PM

If somebody wants to make the point that the cops wouldn’t have been called if the Gates had been white, then it’s *those* non-callers who would be in the wrong.  In good communities, people get involved and watch out for each other.  It’s a good thing.

Getting inolved and watching out for eachother does NOT mean calling the cops. I’ve never seen a bad situation that police couldn’t make worse.

Comment #60: HonestB  on  07/23  at  06:38 PM

Good intentions don’t erase bad conditioning.  It’s comfortable to believe you’ve been saved by denying your racism (or sexism) and intellectually embracing equality, but by itself, that does nothing other than set you up to lie to others and yourself.

oldfeminist, exactafragginglutely.  I do also think there is a cultural thing in which white people in particular really do love to reduce “racist” to “fire-breathing church-bombing spawn of Satan and Hitler”, so that being accused of being a racist looks to said police officer like the worst thing that can happen to him and it’s suddenly much more important to him to establish that he’s not Hitler than to figure out what he did wrong. This also serves the handy purpose of making accusing someone of being a racist into a horrible thing to do that you had better be prepared to back up because oh my god how dare you, thus putting the moral burden entirely on the person who was treated racist-ly. Lovely.

Comment #61: purpleshoes  on  07/23  at  06:40 PM

It occurs to me that this incident doesn’t piss me off nearly as much as the reaction to it.  I’m not seeing much of it here (except from well-known trolls), but it amazes me how blog commenters are reading what they want to in the news reports (coming to the conclusion that Gates refused to show ID, believing everything the cop said, even ascribing additional polite, respectful, good guy behavior to him that’s not in the report).  And I’m 100 percent certain these commenters are white.

I wouldn’t be half so annoyed with this situation if it weren’t for white people deliberately putting their blinders on so they can trash Gates and laud Crowley.

Comment #62: keshmeshi  on  07/23  at  06:40 PM

I was watching one of those cop shows where they show video of cops pulling people over. A guy was pulled over to get a ticket for speeding. The guy spent the entire time that the cop was writing the ticket cursing the cop (lots of bleeps) and threatening the cop’s job. The cop’s response was, “Can I see your registration, sir?” Finally the officer handed the guy the ticket and the guy ripped it up and threw it on the ground. The officer said, “Please pick up the ticket or I will have to write you a ticket for littering, sir.” The guy got out of his car and picked up the pieces, threw them in his car, and then got in and drove away. As the cop walked back to his car he is smiling and you can hear him saying, “Now that was entertaining.”  That is a professional police officer. He let the jerk be a jerk and enjoy his first amendment rights while the officer did his duty and even got a laugh out of it.  He didn’t let the jerk bother him.

Comment #63: Tom P  on  07/23  at  06:45 PM

being accused of being a racist looks to said police officer like the worst thing that can happen to him and it’s suddenly much more important to him to establish that he’s not Hitler than to figure out what he did wrong.

I’ve been a witness to some undeserved accusations of racism.  Just as one example, I once walked in on a confrontation between a black man and a white barista at a coffee shop.  From what I could gather, she wasn’t friendly enough to him and he went on a tirade, calling her a racist bitch.

There are people* out there who are angry and take it out on everyone.  When you run into people like that, you just have to let it go and walk away.  In my experience, white people who are the least racist are the most likely to take unwarranted accusations of racism in stride.

*Just to clarify, I’m not saying this is necessarily the case here with Professor Gates.

Comment #64: keshmeshi  on  07/23  at  06:46 PM

purpleshoes, there’s a wonderful video out there about how to talk to a person to prevent precisely that response.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc&feature=player_embedded although something tells me you might never watch it.  This video wonderfully explains the difference between ‘what they did’(That sounded racist) and ‘what they are’(You are racist).  Something to think about.

Side question to everyone else, my quote syntax messed up terribly.  HonestB, Ben D. and others, how do you get those nifty quote boxes?

Comment #65: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  06:47 PM

Ah, cookie. Exhibit number one why the cops should never, ever be trusted. Thugs with badges and guns.

Comment #66: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  07/23  at  06:48 PM

Pam Spaulding @ 3:50pm:

And the cop’s CPR statement is so mind-blowing that it’s one for the ages.

I don’t think it’s particularly mind-blowing.

People don’t think societally, they think individually. I have been told a few times in my life that as a straight, middle-aged, white male, I enjoy all the priviledge society has to offer. It takes a little bit of an effort to step back, disengauge myself from my day-to-day problems, and admit that yes, I do have a leg up on others.

I made the point the other day that we all harbor racist and bigoted notions. (A blogger (Atrios) agrees with me, so that really means I’m right.) Most of us here would deny that, and as mind-blowing as it would seem, might offer personal evidence that they’re not: Serving on a multi-racial board, working to get a black politician elected, reading to kids in the projects, I call people racist online, - it all sounds the same as “I gave CPR to a black celebrity!”

I agree with our president. The cops acted stupid. Maybe with racist motivation. The CPR defense isn’t valid, but I believe most people think in those terms. “I have a black friend.” “My sister-in-law is black.” It’s an underlying notion that you have a get-out-of-racist-accusation-free card because of a deed, or some “membership” which may be illogical, but in itself, isn’t inherantly racist.

Comment #67: I Heart Puppies  on  07/23  at  06:49 PM

Do I think Gates probably could have diffused the situation himself? Sure. I think he probably could have. Do I think his actions were laudable? Maybe not. I suspect the truth lies between the accounts we’ve heard, as it always does. Does that make him remotely responsible for the situation? No. Absolutely not.

Look, the officer had the genuine responsibility to diffuse the situation. That’s the point the President tried to make. No matter how Gates was acting, it was irresponsible to arrest him on his front porch. Its not a crime to simply disrespect an officer. This isn’t grade school where you can get in trouble for talking back. Adults get to do that. Might not have been the best thing to do, but all things considered I’d say Gates’ agitation is FAR more defensible than the officer’s escalation of the conflict. His own actions show a lack of respect for Gates, and as an officer, he needs to be above that kind of pettiness. Failing to do so was stupid. Why he failed to do so is a valid question. I don’t think he’s “racist” in the sense of being a KKK member, but he needs to get that his actions can still be tainted by racial bias even if its not something he’s trying to do. He just made an inexcusable arrest of an elderly black man because he talked back to him. He really needs to reflect on his choices here instead of pulling this boring “I’ve got black friends” nonsense. Not the issue.

Comment #68: BStu  on  07/23  at  06:51 PM

The officer was completely in the wrong.  Once ID was shown, he was done.  Hell, once the man was limping around on a cane due to surgery, it’s obvious this wasn’t a home invasion.

There’s racism here, but the cop is right in one respect—in America, cops on power trips never, ever have to apologize.  It’s just not a long distance from arresting a Harvard professor for being uppity to shooting Oscar Grant and lying about it in the context of 10 cell phone cameras recording the event.  All one thing.  All racist, sure.  But also all about the mindless worship of authority for authority’s sake.

Comment #69: Punditus Maximus  on  07/23  at  06:53 PM

HavePatience, I have actually seen that before (hah!) but as a white girl I do not like how it puts the burden entirely on the person who was racisted against to take the right tone. A.k.a. the “I would have listened to Dr. Gates but he was just so angry” defense. I think it’s a good tactic non-nicewhitegirls for calling out, and omg I just realized the last half of the video describes exactly what has happened in this case where we started by discussing what said cop did and said cop has made it about whether or not deep down in his heart he feels like a racist.

Everybody, go watch that youtube thing HP just linked to. I’m not just saying this because he’s my sockpuppet.

Comment #70: purpleshoes  on  07/23  at  06:53 PM

Ben D.  on 07/23 at 04:01 PM:

Both the police officer and Gates acted stupidly. There are no heroes in this story.

Ben, the first problem with this is pretty simple: since police officers have power over the people they intervene with, they must be held to a higher standard than them.  So even if we had a super-powerful stupidometer and measured equal amounts of stupidity for Gates and the cop, we must still judge the cop more harshly than Gates.

The other problem is that your statement, to my ear, is uncomfortably close to a classic pattern of discrimination: expecting minorities who complain about discrimination to live up to unreasonably high standards, and dismissing their complaints when they inevitably fail to live up to them.  Two versions of this: (a) accepting nothing short of mind-reading of the perpetrator as evidence of discrimination; (b) demanding that women who accuse a man of rape be all but virgins before the rape.

In this case, why should it matter at all whether Gates acted stupidly?

Comment #71: sacundim  on  07/23  at  06:54 PM

Cookie, where do you live?  I’d like to come over and to get in your face while wearing a uniform and see if you feel protected.

And preferably after having just come back from a 13-20+ hour flight with its associated aggravations from a location with a 12 hour time difference from us and having the physical frailties of an elderly man whose condition requires the use of a cane.

Comment #72: exholt  on  07/23  at  06:56 PM

Hm, that makes it sound like I don’t think nicewhitegirls should call out racist statements. And we should! We should just not take the tone argument when we get called out?

Comment #73: purpleshoes  on  07/23  at  06:57 PM

cookie, the officer could have given the professor his name and badge number in the house. The only reason he INSISTED that the professor follow him out was to be able to arrest him. That takes forethought. The officer is not innocent, he had already determined that the professor was in his own home.

THAT’S WHAT THE OFFICER DID WRONG.

Comment #74: LCforevah  on  07/23  at  07:02 PM

Ben, the first problem with this is pretty simple: since police officers have power over the people they intervene with, they must be held to a higher standard than them.  So even if we had a super-powerful stupidometer and measured equal amounts of stupidity for Gates and the cop, we must still judge the cop more harshly than Gates.

Yes, that’s the point oldfeminist made, and I agree with it. I also stated even before that that being stupid/acting like an ass is NOT a crime, and no one should be arrested for it. Unless you start threatening to physically hurt them, you can say whatever you want to a cop.

The other problem is that your statement, to my ear, is uncomfortably close to a classic pattern of discrimination: expecting minorities who complain about discrimination to live up to unreasonably high standards, and dismissing their complaints when they inevitably fail to live up to them.

I’m not dismissing his complain. If I were him I would have just done whatever was necessary to get the cop to go away, while getting his name and badge number, and call the police department to file a complaint. I then would have called my lawyer, and raised hell in the local press. I think that raising hell in front of an offending cop will at best accomplish nothing, at worse get you tased and/or beaten. Of course, this is easy for me to say. I realize I’m (1) not black, (2) not jet lagged, (3) not recovering from surgery. I have no fucking idea how I would react under those circumstances in the heat of the moment.

Comment #75: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  07:02 PM

Wow, purpleshoes, you’re right, that’s exactly what has happened here.

Comment #76: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  07:02 PM

Side question to everyone else, my quote syntax messed up terribly.  HonestB, Ben D. and others, how do you get those nifty quote boxes?

Those boxes?  Put the text between <blockquote> tags.</blockquote>

Comment #77: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  07:04 PM

This is making me think of Amos & Andrew, a 1993 movie with Samuel L. Jackson and Nicolas Cage that wasn’t really very good but had its moments. It’s a similar plot that has Jackson getting mistaken for a burglar in his own home. He ends up getting involved with petty criminal Cage (don’t ask how), and their strained relationship leads to a final argument:

CAGE: Everything that’s wrong in your life is wrong because you’re black! If your car breaks down, it’s because you’re black! If they’re out of milk at the market, it’s because you’re black!...

JACKSON: There may be something to what you say. But shouldn’t I be able to set up my own stereo in my own house without being arrested?

Jackson plays his character as haughty, uptight, touchy and prissy. Despite the outrages that happen to him (being mistaken for a burglar is just the beginning), you can’t pump up much sympathy for him. I suppose this makes things more evenhanded, but it makes you unsure whom to root for, which is a big reason the move fails.

It’s possible that Gates came on somewhat like the Jackson character. What’s unfunny in a movie is even worse in real life, I guess.

Comment #78: Bitter Scribe  on  07/23  at  07:04 PM

“Cookie, Gates told the officer to wait on the porch and the officer followed him in side and would not leave.

Sounds like a home invasion to me. 

Gee, when I worked at Harvard, we were told to NEVER let a police officer in until he or she had identified themselves, because of imposter home invasions. “

Ms Kate, let me tell you, When I show up at a possible Home invasion Im not being told to “wait on the porch” Im going in the house till I figure out what is going on. This is what happens when people have no doddamn clue about policework.  The guy was a tool, there were multiple other officers and civilian witnesses to this incident. Trust me, every one of those people in the neighborhood will be talked to and they will agree with the police. And Obama was an incredible tool for commenting.

this wasnt about race, You dont come at a cop like gangbusters when he is investigating a possible burglary. He set the stage because he has a chip on his shoulder.

Comment #79: Casp  on  07/23  at  07:04 PM

Those boxes?

Thank you!!

Comment #80: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  07:05 PM

The guy was a tool, there were multiple other officers and civilian witnesses to this incident.

Being a tool, while not the best idea in the world in front of the police, is again not a crime. Not. A. Crime.

Comment #81: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  07:12 PM

You know, I lead a very segregated life. I have no black acquaintances, friends or colleagues. I can’t tell you how it got to this point, but there it is. Being a liberal, it’s not incumbent on the whiteness of my life to prevent me from doing the right thing—I voted for Obama because it was the best, right thing to do—I’m a grown-up.

What really shook me up, were all the so-called liberal friends of mine who stuttered and coughed when giving me reasons for NOT voting for Obama—they spewed a lot of things—except for the real reason—that he was black. People who I thought understood how racism works—my bad!

purpleshoes and oldfeminist, I had a real education in unconscious racism and a necessary re-evaluation of some friends.

Comment #82: LCforevah  on  07/23  at  07:13 PM

Ms Kate, let me tell you, When I show up at a possible Home invasion Im not being told to “wait on the porch” Im going in the house till I figure out what is going on. This is what happens when people have no doddamn clue about policework.  The guy was a tool, there were multiple other officers and civilian witnesses to this incident. Trust me, every one of those people in the neighborhood will be talked to and they will agree with the police. And Obama was an incredible tool for commenting.
this wasnt about race, You dont come at a cop like gangbusters when he is investigating a possible burglary. He set the stage because he has a chip on his shoulder.

Okay, so it’s not about race.  Instead, it’s about state kidnappings in response to having a chip on one’s shoulder.

That’s some fine ‘policework’ there, Lou.

Comment #83: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  07:14 PM

I don’t know about Cambridge, but in California, I’d bet the average police officer makes more money than the average professor.

Otoh, class is half economic, half social (with education a strong factor). A professor has more prestige, even if they have less power and money.

But if the cop DID act out of class resentment rather than pure racism (and I’m thinking of not just racism, it’s still a mix of racism and classism and a white professor wouldn’t have triggered his “you think you’re better than me?” reflex), that is still no reason to violate the professor’s civil rights. Should professors and doctors live in greater fear than the average citizen of becoming the victims of police?

And if your civil rights are being violated, you might find yourself reaching for protections: I have a brother-in-law who’s a lawyer. My aunt works at the newspaper. I’m learned in the history of civil rights law and you shouldn’t buy yourself the p.r. and legal hassle you will have if this escalates. And if you’re really upset, you may not phrase it so elegantly, or you might, and find it gets twisted in the police report.

Comment #84: Samantha Vimes  on  07/23  at  07:26 PM

Yeah, nice one Casp.  Like how you escalated it from possible burglary to “home invasion” AND made your case unimpeachable via psychic prediction that “every one” in the neighborhood will agree with the police. 

Do you believe everything everyone tells you, or just authority figures?  Given the long history of cops lying about everything all the time, anytime they are accused of wrongdoing, I’m given to suspect that Mr. Crowley is probably not an entirely reliable source on how the whole thing went down. 

But since you’re giving the purported cop’s perspective, you tell me this: why is Crowley call for backup AFTER he had established that Mr. Gates was the homeowner?  Are cops routinely put in physical danger by jet-lagged old men who are recovering from surgery?

Comment #85: Loomer  on  07/23  at  07:29 PM

Let me tell you something about this “you are only stopping (or whatever) me because im black” stuff. Many, MANY times ive been confronted with that attitude and everything that follows. Basically the same crap he was pulling. That usually makes me MORE suspicious. And many, not everytime, it has led to an arrest. Its usually used as cover to make you back down when you are close to finding something. As cookie said, if the guy was that disorderly, he getting locked up.  And how is Gates Not a racist in this incident?

Comment #86: Casp  on  07/23  at  07:32 PM

As cookie said, if the guy was that disorderly, he getting locked up.

“Disorderly”? In your own home? Where do you think we live, Singapore?

Comment #87: Ben D.  on  07/23  at  07:37 PM

Let me tell you something about this “you are only stopping (or whatever) me because im black” stuff. Many, MANY times ive been confronted with that attitude and everything that follows. Basically the same crap he was pulling. That usually makes me MORE suspicious. And many, not everytime, it has led to an arrest. Its usually used as cover to make you back down when you are close to finding something. As cookie said, if the guy was that disorderly, he getting locked up.  And how is Gates Not a racist in this incident?

Casp, I don’t think you’re realizing, but you’re outlining precisely the racism that we all see inherent in the system.  Note, Casp, I am not calling YOU racist. 

From context, like cookie, I assume you are or have been a member of Law Enforcement.  In this short blurb you show us that the majority of your interactions with people of color are through your job, and are therefore confrontational in nature.

You say specifically that an individual proclaiming that they are being mistreated makes you more suspicious.  Your attitude about this fact leads me to assume that this is the prevalent mindset amongst other members of law enforcement, or at least how you would prefer them to react.

Then you say that most of these interactions lead to arrest.  So, most of the people of color that you interact with, you assist in them being kidnapped by the state.

I am not surprised, given your assumed work history and past experiences, that you do not see the disgusting racism inherent in all of this.  I don’t blame you for this, and I don’t know of an easy solution at this moment.

Also, Gates’s personal feelings on race are not an issue in this matter because Gates did not arrest anyone.

Comment #88: HavePatience  on  07/23  at  07:40 PM

“Disorderly”?

Of course, disorderly. Gates refused to grovel.

Comment #89: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  07/23  at  07:46 PM

The other problem is that your statement, to my ear, is uncomfortably close to a classic pattern of discrimination: expecting minorities who complain about discrimination to live up to unreasonably high standards, and dismissing their complaints when they inevitably fail to live up to them.

OK, but then what *are* the standards?  Ignoring the right-wing, on the left I see a huge range of interpretations here ranging from the idea that this is really about abuse of power to the idea that both the cop and the woman who called are obviously racists, isn’t that obvious?  Gates seemed to immediately claim racism, while frankly I don’t see race as all that important a factor in this particular case.  Yeah, some people do have unreasonably high standards, but most of the standards out there are arbitrary and unreasonable.

Not that I’m looking for a magic racistometer, but aren’t we all a bit tired of the same old kabuki dance?  Someone claims racism, the right claims it’s all made up and besides blacks/hispancis are the real racists, the person accused claims he’s no racist, the left mocks the “some of my best friends” nature of that response.  We do this stupid thing over and over. 

I mean, Gates supposedly spends his life thinking about this stuff, and he’s out there talking about racial profiling when as far as I can tell this particular incident has absolutely nothing to do with racial profiling (the cops didn’t stop anyone based on race, they responded to a call).  It’s just a convenient catchphrase the press will pick up on. 

I’m ranting here I realize, this stuff just depresses me.  As a country, we seem completely incapable of intelligent thought on the subject of race.

Comment #90: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  07:48 PM

Woofwoof, racism is by many definitions the abuse of power. As to the rest of your questions, have you considered seeking out some thoughtful, reputable reading materials on this issue that aren’t blogs or newspaper editorials? Unfortunately we do have a very superficial way of talking about race in the popular media, but that doesn’t mean that your thinking about racial issues needs to stay on that level, or that you’re helpless to educate yourself further until someone comes along and does it for you. Here’s a link to start you off, and hopefully they’ll have something for further reading: the ACLU on racial profiling.

Racism in America is a thorny, complicated issue that doesn’t have easy answers. Otherwise we could have fixed it by now.

Please consider also that you are on a feminist blog, so we as a group have some sympathy for people who study oppression suddenly realizing that it’s pervasive in their lives, I think.

Comment #91: purpleshoes  on  07/23  at  07:59 PM

I don’t necessarily have a problem with the cop’s behavior up to the point the cop decided to make the arrest.  But I think the arrest was wrong.

Trying to reconcile the cop’s account and Gates’s account, it sounds like they both agree that the cop asked or ordered Gates onto the front porch and that Gates refused.  Gates was angered by the cop’s high-handed tone and lack of courtesy.  On this point, I see both sides.  The cop, based on what he knows at that point, has reason to believe a burglary may be in process. He wants the guy to come out to him rather than going in after someone who might be armed and dangerous. I am sure the cop was not especially polite, but cop is thinking he might be dealing with a criminal and therefore needs to assert dominance in the situation.  It sounds like cop may have entered the foyer but, again, I don’t think this is unreasonable given the report of a possible burglary in progress.  Gates, in turn, is understandably pissed off at being ordered around in his own home. 

At some point, cop demands to see ID to verify that Gates lives in the residence. Again, I don’t really have a problem with this given the 911 call describing Gates trying to break in the door and circling the house.  Gates produces ID, satisfying the officer that there is no break-in.

Gates demands the cop’s name and badge number—again, a reasonable request within his rights.  There is a dispute as to whether the cop provided name and badge number. Gates says no, whereas cop claims he tried to provide it but Gates was yelling too much and couldn’t hear him. 

Cop walks away.  According to the cop’s account, Gates is still following him and yelling.  (I am not sure what Gates says about this because for some reason I am having trouble opening up that link now.) Cop then arrests Gates for “disorderly conduct” for causing a disturbance.  THAT is where the cop went astray.  Cop should absolutely ignored it by simply getting in his cruiser and leaving.  Instead, he committed the classic cop sin of charging someone who was giving him a hard time with disorderly.  He didn’t have to do that and I think it WAS a power trip.  He didn’t like being publicly challenged so instead of de-escalating, he had to show who was boss. 

Disorderly conduct in Mass. is defined as follows:

  Section 53. Common night walkers, common street walkers, both male and
female, common railers and brawlers, persons who with offensive and
disorderly acts or language accost or annoy persons of the opposite sex,
lewd, wanton and lascivious persons in speech or behavior, idle and
disorderly persons, disturbers of the peace, keepers of noisy and
disorderly houses, and persons guilty of indecent exposure may be
punished by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not more
than six months, or by a fine of not more than two hundred dollars, or by
both such fine and imprisonment.

Whether Gates’s alleged conduct comes under “disturbing the peace” or not, I don’t know. It shouldn’t.  There is no allegation that he was vulgar and I can’t imagine that anyone on the street was frightened of him.  And moreover, cop should have realized he had just strongarmed a respectable person midning his own business in his own home and let it go, instead of escalating the event.

Comment #92: Laurie  on  07/23  at  08:11 PM

As soon as Gates produced ID, the officer was done.  This was an elderly man in his home.  The officer had established that this was a false alarm.  He should have apologized for the inconvenience, and left.  Every single action the officer took after seeing the ID was totally inappropriate.

Comment #93: Punditus Maximus  on  07/23  at  08:27 PM

purpleshoes, thanks for the condescension.  As I said, I was hoping for a raised level of discourse, and conscension is always a good way to achieve that.  Sadly, though, I have already read the ACLU report on racial profiling, so no help there.  They send that stuff to members when it comes out, you know.  I’ve also read the majority of HL Gates’ books BTW, going back to when the Signifying Monkey (not his first book, but the first one I read) was released.  Good stuff. 

It’s nice of you to mention my many questions requesting information, although, there seems to be only two questions in my post, one of which is the rhetorical “aren’t we all tired of this stuff?”  So perhaps it was a different post you were speaking of.  However, your revelation that racism is a thorny issue has cleared it all up for me, that just never occurred to me before.


Anyway, beyond snark… or, you know what, let’s not bother going beyond snark; time wasted, pigs annoyed, et. al..  Ranting about the level of public discourse, especially in public, is extremely stupid on my part though sometimes cathartic; I shouldn’t expect anything different in return.

Comment #94: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  08:53 PM

As soon as Gates produced ID, the officer was done.

This. There’s really nothing more that needs to be said. All and sundry who want to try to defend the cop’s power trip after that point are cordially invited to bite me. Anybody with more than the street smarts of a turnip is aware of the prevalence of bullshit “contempt of cop” arrests, and this was a textbook example.

Comment #95: Steve LaBonne  on  07/23  at  08:53 PM

I don’t know about Cambridge, but in California, I’d bet the average police officer makes more money than the average professor.

Actual professors: not adjuncts, not lecturers, but tenure-track members of the faculty, make pretty good money both at MIT and Harvard.

Trust me, every one of those people in the neighborhood will be talked to and they will agree with the police.

You’re forgetting a couple of things here: that this is Cambridge and this is where there’s an expectation of “community policing” and the fact that everyone on the block likely knows Gates. In those parts of towns with those neighbors, there’s a certain expectation that the police are going to know who you, the homeowner, are.

Unfortunately, what’s happened here is that the cop turned what was just an unpleasant interaction with an annoyed local resident into a national kerfluffle. No public interest was served by arresting Gates. It merely placated the ego of the officer and was meant to intimidate Gates. Trying to intimidate Gates into submission was not such a great idea in this case. Even if the officer’s account of the story is 100% true, he’s still wrong, since he wasn’t acting in the public interest when it came to a man who hadn’t committed a crime. The officer was simply assuming that he could fall back on his wide discretion granted to him to arrest Gates because he felt like it.

Comment #96: Tyro  on  07/23  at  08:54 PM

WoofWoof, especially since you were verging on asking why no one was discussing what you wanted them to discuss. Which is why I jumped right to the condescending smackdown which is usually better paired with “why don’t you take time to educate me about this subject.” Eh, I’m sure you’re well-meaning; I, on the other hand, am mostly snide.

Comment #97: purpleshoes  on  07/23  at  09:22 PM

Samantha Vimes on 07/23 at 06:26 PM:

Otoh, class is half economic, half social (with education a strong factor). A professor has more prestige, even if they have less power and money.

This has long been how sociologists group measure social class.  The typical questionnaire asks not just for household income, but also for education and profession.  There’s also more elaborate theories about class in the USA.  I’m not an expert on this, but the one I remember from one of my sociolinguistics professors: the working class “sphere” is local, and the middle class sphere is national.  The working class has a strong identification with the local culture, and they tend to work jobs that are about keeping the local infrastructure working.  The middle class tend to have a stronger identification with middle class in other cities, and its greater power tends to come from their control over access to non-local resources (like trade, science, and the very best college education).

@Laurie: pretty good analysis of what we’ve heard so far.  I think if I sat down to think about it I might find something to nitpick, but this is one of the best things I’ve read about this interaction so far.

WoofWoof on 07/23 at 06:48 PM:

OK, but then what *are* the standards?  Ignoring the right-wing, on the left I see a huge range of interpretations here ranging from the idea that this is really about abuse of power to the idea that both the cop and the woman who called are obviously racists, isn’t that obvious?  Gates seemed to immediately claim racism, while frankly I don’t see race as all that important a factor in this particular case.

Well, first off, a lot of people on the left are not at all pleased with the reactions of many (or even most!) other people on the left.  There are a lot of people out there on the left who complain about racism and sexism on the left.  In fact, one of the angles that’s been pushed on this story, by liberal bloggers, is to say that this incident and others show that racism is a pretty big problem even in very liberal cities like Cambridge.  The left engages on plenty of sexism, too, for that matter.

Second, I’m sorry to tell you that your response to my point about excessively high standards is also, to my ear, uncomfortably close to the problem I’m trying to point out.  Basically, we’re expecting members of minorities who push accusations of racial discrimination to be perfect judges about whether any one incident constitutes racial discrimination.

That’s just too much.  It’s better to simply believe that racial minorities know a lot more about racism than people who don’t experience it, but they also have to given some leeway to be wrong about it once in a while—and more so if, for example, they’ve just gotten back from trip to China, had to get their own front door unstuck, and then find themselves confronting a police officer in their own home.

But we still have to acknowledge a very important point: from the point of view of a black person, this incident, while it happens, is undistinguishable from countless others they have experienced that are, in their large majority, due to racial discrimination.  Suppose we could have the magic racistometer that you mention, and we could use it to measure what percentage of Prof. Gates’ unpleasant interactions with strangers had racial prejudice as a major contributing factor.  Suppose that the true number, then, is 80%.  Could we blame Prof. Gates if he estimated the number at 90%?  Should we call that “a pretty good guess,” or “dead wrong”?

To put the argument very briefly: Prof. Gates’ life experience of racial discrimination can reasonably lead him believe that racism was a factor in that one incident, even if he is wrong, and it can be extremely hard to prove it either way.  He could be wrong in this case, but even if he is, there is an important reason why he is wrong—because of the countless incidents he’s had to endure where his accusation wouldn’t have been wrong.  This particular incident is probably just the one where his frustration exploded.

Comment #98: sacundim  on  07/23  at  09:28 PM

sacundim, I think there’s something between expecting minorities to be perfect judges of racism and the idea that if someone thinks it’s racism, then it is. 

Your argument in your last paragraph goes exactly to what I’m talking about.  That argument goes to an “atmosphere” of racism if you will, a series of repeated events each including some unmeasurable amount of racism, making it impossible for an individual to determine the racism in each.  And I get that, and I agree entirely with what you’re saying there. 

But our public discourse of race is exactly the opposite: it’s a weird list of almost randomly chosen episodes that we publicly deem racist or not on an individual basis.  In this case, it may not matter whether Gates is right or wrong about the role race played here, but it matters tremendously to Officer Crowley and Lucia Whelan, whose livelihoods could easily be destroyed this week (IMHO Crowley should be fired and possibly prosecuted regardless of the race aspect, but that’s a different point).  Gates doesn’t need an objective standard, I agree, but if we’re going to punish incidents of racism, then something is needed.

Comment #99: WoofWoof  on  07/23  at  10:40 PM

Seth is white, and he doesn’t have enough life experience or maybe empathy to understand that a black man doesn’t receive one-tenth the deference a white man receives, especially from the police.  It’s part of his white superiority complex - he can’t see clearly because of the “white” of his eyes.

Seth thinks that a black man would have stood just as much chance as Seth did when he was brought to the police station and was allowed to explain the misunderstanding that led to his own arrest.  A black man would have to tell it to the judge, Seth, after spending the night in jail.  Grow up, white dude.  Your experience is so limited, and your judgment reflects that.

Comment #100: News Nag  on  07/23  at  10:42 PM

Whether Gates’s alleged conduct comes under “disturbing the peace” or not, I don’t know. It shouldn’t.  There is no allegation that he was vulgar and I can’t imagine that anyone on the street was frightened of him.  And moreover, cop should have realized he had just strongarmed a respectable person midning his own business in his own home and let it go, instead of escalating the event.

It didn’t.  It’s not against the law to yell in your own home.  It is a crime to make a scene in public, which is exactly why the cop goaded him into walking out on the porch.  If you read the police report, once Gates is outside, he suddenly fulfills word-for-word the statute requirements for disturbing the peace.  Funny how that works.

Comment #101: keshmeshi  on  07/23  at  11:22 PM

Gates doesn’t need an objective standard, I agree, but if we’re going to punish incidents of racism, then something is needed.

Why? Obviously it’s nice not to mess up the lives and careers of people who only appeared to be acting in a racist fashion, but giving Crowley and Whelan the benefit of the doubt, or even the chance to prove that their actions weren’t racist, is also a huge act of white privilege and class privilege.

Black men and women who aren’t Skip Gates get their livelihoods destroyed every week because someone with power decides they might have been on the fringe of something unlawful, and the best they get (if the case is particularly well known) is a “where are they now” feature in some newspaper 10 years down the line.

Obviously we do need objective standards when depriving people of their livelihoods, but it still raises my hackles when it’s in the context of white people being accused of racist acts that this need seems to come up most strongly.

Comment #102: paul  on  07/23  at  11:27 PM

Is there any way to verify the Reggie Lewis incident as told by MachoShit Cop?

I’m betting he was no where near the scene.  It would be an interesting fact check to see if he was responding - if he was a Cambridge cop at the time, he’d not have been anywhere near the place.

Comment #103: Ms Kate  on  07/23  at  11:42 PM

Black men and women who aren’t Skip Gates get their livelihoods destroyed every week because someone with power decides they might have been on the fringe of something unlawful, and the best they get (if the case is particularly well known) is a “where are they now” feature in some newspaper 10 years down the line.

Obviously we do need objective standards when depriving people of their livelihoods, but it still raises my hackles when it’s in the context of white people being accused of racist acts that this need seems to come up most strongly.

You know, I’m, like, the whitest guy in America, and if I can get this there’s no excuse why others can’t as well. C’mon, WoofWoof et al., think hard, you can get it if you try.

Comment #104: Steve LaBonne  on  07/23  at  11:45 PM

Ms Kate, newspaper reports have Reggie Lewis’ wife, who was present at the time, backing up the story. So the story seems pretty reliable.

On the other points, we’re past the 100th comment on a relatively obscure blog… I’m not sure how that ranks as “comes up most strongly”. 

Anyway, I’m not going to follow up (assuming I’m not still sick in bed tomorrow), but I’ll add that Crowley and Whalen aren’t the point here.  The point is the amazingly stupid public discourse which is going to focus on whether Crowley is “really racist” or not, which makes things like the Reggie Lewis story or the fact that Crowley taught about profiling somehow relevant.  I mean, we’ve got Harvard professor here, one would hope that would generate some elevated discussion that just might, in the long run, actually help those black men and women who aren’t Skip Gates who are getting their livelihoods destroyed.

But it won’t.  And we’ll all just do this same thing again in a few months.  It kinda reminds me of the first week after the Rev. Wright thing happened.  Obama gave an incredible, intelligent, subtle speech, and the talking heads just ignored it and went on spouting the same inanities they had spouted before.  That was depressing also.

Comment #105: WoofWoof  on  07/24  at  12:14 AM

This black Ivy League prof goes right to the point I am talking about regarding how class fits into this picture:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/07/24/gates/?source=newsletter

Comment #106: Pam Spaulding  on  07/24  at  08:08 AM

The point is the amazingly stupid public discourse which is going to focus on whether Crowley is “really racist” or not, which makes things like the Reggie Lewis story or the fact that Crowley taught about profiling somehow relevant.

The latter is relevant if and only if you think “some of my best friends” is an adequate defense for someone caught in racist words or actions.

The stupidity of this discourse is coming disproportionately from people like you, bowser boy.

Comment #107: Steve LaBonne  on  07/24  at  09:34 AM

This black Ivy League prof goes right to the point I am talking about regarding how class fits into this picture:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/07/24/gates/?source=newsletter

That’s a great link, Pam, and since I’m responding directly to you, I’d like to take a sentence to thank you for all your hard work for people everywhere.

Indeed, the author of that Salon article makes sense, and while I can’t confirm or deny it, it does make sense in the context of Gates’s behavior and actions.

From the beginning, though, this really hasn’t been about Gates personally or even Crowley personally.  It’s about the problems in the system that lead to a situation where a police officer believes he is simply doing his job well for arresting an angry black man for being angry.

Like I said above, I buy that Crowley is not overtly racist.  And as per the Salon article, I even buy that Gates’s reaction is heavily influenced by his Ivy League cultural context.

These two things are nearly irrelevant when it comes to public perception of the act.  Which is, you know, the state kidnapping someone for being angry while black.  =/

Comment #108: HavePatience  on  07/24  at  09:53 AM

This goes back to the fact that discussion about race in America has become very stupid.

But I might well believe that this cop is not a racist.  I figure Gates should really have been angry that somebody called it in.

Look, if cops came to my house in this circumstance, I’d say, “Sorry you had to come here.  There has been a misunderstanding, here’s my ID, etc.”  But then, I’m white, so it is much less likely to happen to me, and I can be fairly certain that there has been an “honest” misunderstanding.  That’s not true for Gates.

I just heard a statement by the Cambridge Police union saying that there was nothing about race in this arrest.  But there was.  Would this woman have called the police if the two men pushing at the door were white, one of them in his 50s?  Remember, this is at noon.  I sincerely doubt it.

Gates’s anger at the cop might well have been misdirected, if the cop treated the initial interaction with any delicacy.  His anger was understandable, and probably enhances by his irritation at the stuck door.  Fundamentally, the initial injustice is that somebody called the police, not that the police arrived.

This is where the situation gets tricky.  It’s clear that Gates was angry, and it’s clear that the cop invited Gates to talk about the situation on the porch so that Gates anger would be public, and therefore he could be charged with public disorder.

I suspect neither man comported himself at his best in this situation, but the reality is, the cop is the “professional” at these sorts of situations.  He should be the guy who keeps his cool.  Instead, he incites an angry citizen to come outside to commit a *very* minor crime in order to arrest him.  That doesn’t protect and serve anybody.

A responding police officer in this sort of situation has to be very careful.  On the one hand, he might be heading into a dangerous situation.  On the other hand, it could easily be a misunderstanding.  And yes, he should realize that a 50-year-old black man is gonna be angry that the police were called because he entered his own home, and he shouldn’t take it personally if that man turns his anger on the cop.

Comment #109: misplacedpatriot  on  07/24  at  12:30 PM

misplacedpatriot:

Would this woman have called the police if the two men pushing at the door were white, one of them in his 50s?  Remember, this is at noon.  I sincerely doubt it.

It is obvious that two Black men pushing down a door are going to get police called on them more often (and faster) than two white men in the same situation, and I agree there’s a good chance the caller was influenced by racism.

However, while I don’t live in Cambridge, if I saw two men I didn’t know pushing down a door on my block, and after observing for a minute or so, I couldn’t figure out what was going on?  I’d call the police, high noon or 3am. 

Maybe you didn’t know it, but daytime burglary is actually the norm for burglaries in neighborhoods where most people work during the day.  They play on the “criminals wouldn’t do that in the daylight” notion you just conveniently displayed.  Gates’ house was broken into previously, so it’s not like this is a crime-free zone.

So I don’t think it’s a slam-dunk that the caller acted out of racist motives, even though it’s likely to be a factor.

Comment #110: oldfeminist  on  07/24  at  04:59 PM

I don’t think Crowley’s story was to say “see, i do care about black people!” it’s more to say that he’s been here before, just doing his job and trying to save Lewis, but was instantly called a murdering racist because he couldn’t magically save him.

And you know, it’s kinda funny how Monroe gets racist in her essay about racism. Ah, hypocrisy.

Comment #111: The Gray Train  on  07/24  at  08:30 PM
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