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Demolition Man Was Wrong

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imageOnly a few years after McDonald’s became public enemy number one for serving up almost cartoonish amounts of food to American consumers, it’s back on top, becoming the recession’s shining star of cheap food.

I can’t help but feel this is the Walmartization of dining, the biggest bulk buyer of its particular foodstuffs in the world moving ever onward, creeping in as dining options wane in the recession.  There’s a reason that the poor are among the most obese sectors of society - bad food is cheaper than good food, and bad food, thanks to the creep of fast food, is far easier to get than good food.  It goes back to my beef with Sandra Lee - she takes an ethic that should result in affordable, fast meals for people with less means and less time, and makes it the same sort of middle to upper-middle class “gourmet-but-not” ethic that dominates cooking at home. 

There’s an obvious market niche that’s being underserved here, or at least being served solely by the proliferation of fast-food restaurants.  Few people like cooking at home every single night, particularly when home doesn’t look like a Food Network kitchen set.  Little’s being done to make home cooking accessible; sure, there are the odd books on how to eat cheaply but they’re fairly sparse and largely focused on college students. 

Plus, with McDonald’s taking over the world, I’m just sad that Demolition Man chose the wrong fast food chain.  I thought that movie was the future. 

My tips to eating cheaply at home:

1.) Build up a stock of dried spices.  You don’t need anything fancy, but a basic set of spices like oregano, thyme, paprika, rosemary, cumin, etc. will stretch the same ingredients a lot further.  They’re also an investment.  Four dollars for a spice may seem expensive, but that spice will probably last you a few months.  Olive oil is much the same - spending seven to fifteen dollars for something that isn’t even the actual food part of the meal seems expensive, but it lasts forever and improves the quality of your food.

2.) Use aromatics.  Onions, celery and garlic are still relatively cheap.  And they make things taste good.  Really good.

3.) Think about how much a meal actually costs to make.  McDonald’s is cheap, and very cheap at that.  But think about what you get for a five-dollar value meal - you get a soda, fries and a sandwich of some sort.  Stretch that over four people, and you’ve spent twenty dollars for sandwiches, fries and drinks.  You can feed yourself for less than five dollars, and you can certainly feed four people for less than twenty dollars.

4.) Learn to love leftovers.  I used to hate leftovers, for the simple reason that I generally made bad food and by no means wanted to save it.  Better food means better leftovers, means your dollar gets stretched further.  Below the fold is my staple cheap recipe, black beans and rice.  And it makes great leftovers, too.
Black Beans and Rice
5-6 servings

1 29.5-oz can of black beans ($1.89)
Half of one large onion (Whole onion: $1-$1.50, and save the rest in a plastic baggie, or just chop up a whole medium onion)
One green pepper ($1-1.50)
Four cloves garlic, minced (Sleeve of garlic - $2-3, four cloves cost you about 15 to 20 cents out of that)
2 tablespoons olive oil (Whole bottle: $7 the store, this amount costs you about 25 cents)
Salt
Pepper
1 tablespoon cumin
1/2 tablespoon oregano
1/4 tablespoon cayenne pepper

2 cups long grain rice (I use El Preferida, which is about $4 for a two pound bag.  In order to conserve rice, I generally just make the rice as needed rather than making a bunch, because old rice isn’t quite as fantastic as it might seem)
Chopped cilantro, about a half cup (bunch of cilantro - $1, you’ll use about a quarter to a half of the bunch)
Lime juice optional (Limes are the most expensive part of this when they’re out of season, about 3 for $2, but they add in acid that really makes the flavors pop)

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Chop onion and pepper into medium to small-sized chunks.  Mince garlic (simplest way - crush the whole clove with your knife and then chop).  Heat your pan to medium-high heat, put in olive oil, and wait for the oil to warm.  Once oil is heated, put in onion, pepper and garlic and cook until the onion and garlic start to brown.  Drain beans in a colander, saving a little bit of the juice from the can.  Put beans and juice in with the vegetables, and let cook for 4-5 minutes.  You save the juice in order to make the spices activate; putting dry spices on dry foods wastes the spices and makes the texture weird.  Once the juice simmers, add the spices and salt and pepper to taste.  Let it cook a couple of minutes longer to let the flavors permeate the dish, then take it off the heat. 

You should start your rice before you start sauteeing, as you can just let it cook and then sit while you cook the beans.  Add the chopped cilantro and lime juice to the rice and stir.  Scoop rice into bottom of bowl, and then place black beans over the top.  And then eat. 

The actual value of the ingredients used in the meal is less than $10, and it makes a good 5-6 servings.  Share your cheap recipes below. 

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 11:00 AM • (127) Comments

Also: If there’s an Indian/Pakistani grocery in your area, you can get a massive bag of spices (cumin, cinnamon, etc) for super-cheap.

May I plug my recipe-sharing database? It’s totally free: you download an empty client (Mac or PC) and enter your recipes into it. You can search on recipes by type, ingredient, title, and prep time (so if you want a vegetarian meal in less than an hour, you can grab that). You can link recipes together for menu creation, and you can print grocery lists for a set of marked recipes where everything you need is grouped by aisle. If you have one or more friends who like to cook, you can share in a peer-to-peer way (via your email) these recipes, and they can add notes to your recipe (but not edit them). You can also mark recipes as “family secret” to prevent them from being shared. (Since your data file is on your computer and not on some server out on the web, they’re actually “secure” when you say it’s a secret).

I’ll be releasing a new version in a little while, I’m doing some last-minute debugging on some changes I’ve made but I’m not collecting email addresses to sell or anything like that, I just really like cooking and programming and this is something I thought people could get some use out of.

Comment #1: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  11:19 AM

Stretch that over four people, and you’ve spent twenty dollars for sandwiches, fries and drinks.

When my kids had soccer games all day in the northern suburbs, I would take them to a lunch buffet near where I went to gradual school.  For $18 including tip we would do the lunch buffet at the Southeast Asian Restaurant in Lowell where they have a mix of basic and fancy food available.

When we walked out, one of my kids remarked that a lovely filling lunch for $6 a person average was cheaper than McDonalds.

The same is true of our favorite Taqueria.  We spend about $25 for dinner for four people, maybe $30 if we get extras.  That really isn’t much more than I spend to put together a fresh dinner at home for two adults one preeteen and an adolescent food disposal unit (you done with that?).

Comment #2: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  11:23 AM

Another good investment: curry pastes from an asian market.  We like masaman and green curry.  These last a long time - just add a couple of tablespoons to a can of coconut milk and you have instant flavorful sauce.

Last night I used the green curry paste and mixed it up with sauteed chicken breast, onions, carrots, and pre-nuked potatoes.  I did a load of rice in the rice cooker to go with it.

Comment #3: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  11:27 AM

Did you just tell me how to make beans and rice?

Comment #4: blucas!  on  01/27  at  11:29 AM

For spices, I like spicebarn.com.  Get as much bulk as you want, or as little as 4 ounces, and it’s invariably MUCH cheaper than anywhere but Costco.  And the spices themselves are high quality and don’t tend to cake over time.

Cheap and easy Thai peanut noodles:
1 cup peanut butter (I use chunky because I like the peanuts)
1 cup hot water
2 tablespoons (or more) soy sauce
Your choice of hot Asian condiment:  fire oil, chili oil, chili paste.  At least a teaspoon or two.  You want it spicy.
Dash vinegar
2-3 cloves of garlic
Cilantro optional

Mix sauce ingredients in bowl.  The hotter the water, the sooner it will mix with the peanut butter.  I will sometimes microwave the water and peanut butter together first, for a smooth mix.

Make any kind of long noodle you like - spaghettini, udon, hardly matters.  Just make sure to drain really well, or the sauce will get too watery.

I like to add spinach and/or leftover chicken when I have it, but it isn’t necessary.

YUM.

Comment #5: elmo  on  01/27  at  11:43 AM

Mujadarah is a somewhat larger investment in time and onions, but you get to skip the canned beans if you buy your lentils in bulk.  The linked recipe isn’t mine, but it looks quite workable.  It’s quite delicious with some pita bread and something green on the side.

http://erinrach.blogspot.com/2008/03/mujadarah-lentils-rice.html

Comment #6: Alex, FCD  on  01/27  at  11:44 AM

Olive oil is much the same - spending seven to fifteen dollars for something that isn’t even the actual food part of the meal seems expensive, but it lasts forever and improves the quality of your food.

If a 1/2 L bottle lasts longer than a couple of weeks, you’re doing something wrong smile

Anyway, yeah ... agreed on the tips.  Crock pot cooking is also good for making a ton of food for the week.  Throw in a pile of cheap veggies with some broth, garlic, a cup of brown rice, and you’re all set.

Comment #7: Joshua  on  01/27  at  11:44 AM

I think a lot of people avoid cooking because a lot of the prep is very intimidating. When I was starting out, I looked for recipes where I wasn’t expected to do more than chop one onion and mince one clove of garlic, It would take a few minutes, but I gradually got better at it and now chopping vegetables isn’t such a big deal. Except for peeling a butternut squash. That still takes the piss out of me.

Healthier Tuna Noodle Casserole
1 cup onion, chopped
1 stalk celery, chopped
non-stick cooking spray or 1 tbsp olive oil (if you have a nonstick pan)
1 pkg farfalle (bowtie) pasta
1 can tunafish, drained
1 cup nonfat evaporated milk
1 can low fat/low sodium condensed cream of mushroom or cream of celery soup
2 tbsp chopped pimentos
1/4 cup shredded Parmesan cheese

Preheat oven to 375F. Cook pasta according to directions on box until just firm to bite (~9 minutes). Drain.

Meanwhile, spray large skillet with nonstick cooking spray or heat 1 tbsp olive oil in large nonstick pan over medium heat. Add onion and celery and cook, stirring, until soft (about 5-7 minutes). Add milk and cream of mushroom soup and stir to blend. Add tuna, pimentos, and farfalle and mix.

Spray baking dish with nonstick cooking spray. Transfer mixture from skillet to baking dish. Sprinkle with cheese and bake for 25-30 minutes or until top is golden-crusty.

Comment #8: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  11:45 AM

Dried beans are even cheaper (though I tend to use organic canned myself, because I’m rich like that).  Canned tomatos are another staple at my house. Again, I tend to use organic canned blah blah, but you can go cheaper. Anyway: pasta fagioli:

Chop an onion and saute it in some olive oil (Jesse’s right, it is worth it to buy the expensive shit). Throw in some chopped garlic. Basil, rosemary, oregano, in whatever quantities appeal. Carrots and celery if you have them (chopped). Let all of that soften a bit, but not too much. Dump in a big can of tomatos (I go for peeled and diced, but anything will do). Dump in a can or two of drained white beans (great northern, cannellini). You can add a bag of frozen spinach, too, if you want, or chopped collard greens or chopped kale. Let everything get hot. Ladle over pasta (which is another arena where you can go with the cheap or spend a little more for the good stuff.) Grate some cheese over it, if you want.

It freezes really well, but do NOT freeze it with pasta in it. Cook that separately each time, or keep it separate in the fridge, but mixed together the pasta will get soggy.

Another thing that’s always been worth the money to me: good parmesan cheese. It makes a big difference in flavor.

Comment #9: Narya  on  01/27  at  11:47 AM

Hell, skip the canned beans and make them from dry beans.  You have to start the night before, but you get more for your dollar.

Comment #10: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/27  at  11:47 AM

Ms Kate:
You just gave me my dinner idea for Saturday night.  Thanks!

Comment #11: elmo  on  01/27  at  11:47 AM

Did you just tell me how to make beans and rice?

Yup! And next he’ll tell you how not to assume that your experience is generalizable to everyone. It’s like some sort of liberal instruction manual around this place.

Comment #12: Auguste  on  01/27  at  11:48 AM

I agree with Mighty Ponygirl on the Indian/Asian market.  We get all our spices at the Indian grocery and it’s always way cheaper than the regular grocery store.  Granted, the husband is Sri Lankan and we eat a lot of curries, but even if you didn’t it’s still cheaper to get rice and spices there.

For instance, this weekend we spent around $40 and got:  a large bag of cinnamon sticks, a large bag of cumin seeds, 10 lb basmati rice, dried red chilis, two containers of asafoetida, two cans of mango pulp, two eggplants, large bit of ginger root, curry leaves, a couple bags of frozen garlic naan, and a bag of yellow lentils.  And except for the eggplant (which is going to be tonight’s dinner with leftover fish curry) and naan (which I will eat fairly quickly), everything we got will keep really well for a good long time and can be used several times.

And if you like spicy, Indian food can’t be beat.  It’s relatively cheap and easy to make (particularly the vegetarian dishes), keeps well, is filling, and is good for you.

Comment #13: ks  on  01/27  at  11:49 AM

One of the biggest issues is that the easiest way to save money is to buy meat on sale and then freeze it.  A frozen turkey at $.39/lb for Thankjgiving is a great thing but you need room to store a frozen turkey.

Other things are: Aldis is great for most pantry items if you have one near by.  Olive oil for example is about $5 compared to $7 or more.

Spices are often available in produce departments of grocery stores and are much cheaper than McCormick stuff.  Yes they are in bags instead of jars but jars are reusable.

Comment #14: Robert  on  01/27  at  11:50 AM

Ms. Kate, Almond milk works well too with curry paste (less fat and cheaper).

I’m lucky because there’s a Mennonite grocery store about 45 minutes out of town (I’m in Lexington, KY) that has these rather big tubs of dried herbs and spices for pennies—like $1.20 for a cup container or so of anything from curry to rosemary, grown organically. It almost feels dishonest to shop there (and you need to bring cash, and watch for the horse/buggies on the lane). Going once per year saves so much in the spice/herb department (though, I do like to grow my own fresh herbs in the kitchen window).

Lexington is almost as good as Madison, WI for CSA’s, co-ops, and the Farmer’s Market (which accepts WIC and Food Stamps). You can eat locally very well here. Of course, we could always use more education and outreach programs—to all economic levels. Folks scrapping to get by as well as SUV’ers in the burbs have all been brainwashed by Big Agro that eating feedlot beef and white flour everything is “natural” or “what’s for dinner.”

By the way, one thing that I love about Pandagon is that men and women write from the perspective of fully human beings. Jesse, a straight dude, shared a recipe—because as a full human being who is competent, he knows how to feed himself nutritious food and wants to share one of his favorite recipes. I’m not trying to give anyone a cookie, oh, look at the male who is trying to cook, how cute. Its like a lady pumping her own gas—cute cute cute. I’m probably in crazy reaction zone because (no work today, the University I work at is closed due to the ice storm) because I just listened to several clips from Saddleback Christianist Church about “biblically sound life choices.” The thing that struck me there was that honestly, they don’t believe in the full humanity of women or men—neither is expected to be able to care for him/herself or others unless one followed strictly gendered norms. Its very sad how little they think of the capacities of men/women, really. No one is whole or should strive for wholeness. Anyway, Jesse is whole, Amanda is whole, Pam is whole, etc. And even on a political blog, a simple recipe offered is radical in its ordinariness.

peace

Comment #15: Thealogian  on  01/27  at  11:53 AM

Oh—and beets!  Get a bunch of beets with the greens still attached. Hack off the greens and save them. Turn the oven on to 350. Wash the beets and put them in a baking dish with a little bit of water and tent some foil over them. Roast them until you can poke them with a fork, about 40 minutes, depending on the size of the beets. (I turn them a few times, if I remember.) Putting them in a little water keeps them from drying out, but it doesn’t soak them they way boiling does.

Meanwhile, cut the big rib out of the greens and wash the greens well. Chop them up.

Once the beets are roasted, the skins should come off pretty easily, or peel them.

In a big pan (I have a big wok), some chopped onion in olive oil, some garlic, then add the chopped greens. While they’re sauteing, slice the beets and julienne them. Throw them in the mix, too. I throw in a little (< tablespoon) butter for the flavor. Salt, pepper. Throw over pasta. Again, you can (a) add a can of white beans and (b) freeze leftovers w/o the pasta.

Comment #16: Narya  on  01/27  at  11:53 AM

You can buy a whole turkey and chop it up to freeze it. Also, you have to be careful about freezing; make sure there’s no air in the container.

Comment #17: ginmar  on  01/27  at  11:54 AM

ks—I owe my robust winter health to a totally vegan eggplant-and-blackeyed-pea curry I make regularly during the winter. I never get more than a little congested with that on my menu. Clears out the sinuses, sticks to your ribs like a beef stew. I’m hoping this summer to be able to grow most of the stuff I need for it in the community garden and then can large batches of it.

Comment #18: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  11:56 AM

cost-saving food tips, in general:

* any time, ever, that you’re buying value-added food at the store, you’re getting ripped off. i’m not advocating making pasta and bread and staples like that from scratch on a daily basis (though it’s fun), just pointing out that frozen dinners are really really really a rip-off. anyone can sear salmon, you don’t need trader joe’s to do it for you.

* that said, don’t get ripped off on ingredients either. ethnic markets are absolutely vital. you’ll probably have to dig through produce you might not recognize, and it won’t be as flawless or as pristinely arranged as at wholefoods. but, you’re paying half as much for it. i’d go so far as to say that for a lot of things, the lao market down the street from me has higher quality produce than wholefoods, too. if you shop somewhere where the clientele actually cooks, they’re pretty choosy about only buying stuff that’s in good shape. oh, and if you’re buying rice the 25# bags of thai jasmine are a great deal. it’ll keep for months. no need to buy 2# at a time.

* for meat, i really recommend finding a halal butcher (since they’re generally the only people doing real, on-site butchering anymore). you’re on your own for bacon, though. the halal butcher i was going to outside of DC actually sourced all their meat from a local farm, too, which was a real plus. failing that, i’d say farmers’ market meat (but rarely, that stuff is -pricey-) or going without. i guess i’d rather eat tofu and beans most of the time and save up for a nice steak.

* cook, even if you’re not good at it, until you are. so many people i know just say ‘i can’t cook’ and then don’t ever bother. like anything else in life, you’re going to suck at it for awhile and then get better. it’s hard to mess things up so badly that they’re inedible.

Comment #19: ibaien  on  01/27  at  11:59 AM

RE the original recipe:
You can heat up a little oil in a pan and saute the spices and they will taste even better. Also, if you don’t want to make this all veggie, cook the rice with broth or bouillon. It tastes a lot better.

Last night I combined some brown rice made with chicken bouillon, a can of chili hot bean, a can of refried bean (I only had one can of chili hot beans or I’d have used 2 cans of that and skipped the refried beans), some ground beef, cumin, garlic powder, salt, pepper, chili powder, and a little bit of cheese. I scooped it into tortillas, rolled them up, and put them in a baking dish with a bit of enchilada sauce on the bottom. A little more enchilada sauce on top, a tiny sprinkling of cheese, and about 10-15 minutes in the oven? Mmm, baked burritos.

Comment #20: Brigid Keely  on  01/27  at  12:00 PM

It probably belongs in the obvious category too, but one quite reliable thing I like to do is to saute a bunch of stuff and then throw couscous on top.  Surprisingly good in many, many combinations. 

Also, you can get a hell of a lot of food out of one eggplant.  We tend to slice it thin and bread the slices to do eggplant parmigiano one day, a grilled-cheese sandwich with eggplant another day, and chop it up and throw it in with the Couscous Randomness yet another day.  (We’re just feeding two, which does make things easier, I hear.)

Comment #21: FlipYrWhig  on  01/27  at  12:02 PM

Mighty-Pony-Girl:

vegan eggplant-and-blackeyed-pea curry

Recipe please?

Comment #22: Thealogian  on  01/27  at  12:04 PM

Here’s a short list of our family meals:

Potato Bar
Pasta Bar (choice of sauces)
ZBC (aka trees and logs aka Ziti Brocolli and Chicken)
Bison Chilli and rice and cornbread
Chicken curry and rice
Make your own pizzas (sausage, pepperoni, veggies, pesto, pizza sauce, etc.)
Burrito Bar (beans, yellow rice, sausage, salsa, cheese, etc.)

Yes, we do a lot of “bar” things, particularly since we remodled the kitchen and have a large run of countertop that wraps around a corner with a curve.  Bar options keep everybody happy.  They also mean that food stays in the kitchen.

I usually put out veggies with the “bar” options, as we all like different stuff.  These are good because they are quick, the ingredients are fresh (although I’ll chop or grate for one night and cycle them around until they are gone), and they are quick.  We even have the kids do some prep before we get home sometimes - wash, poke, and nuke the potatoes, etc.

In the winter, I tend to use frozen veggies because produce sucks in Boston and sucks major in the winter.  A lot of fresh stuff tends to be damaged by uncontrolled freezing, so why pay the prices when Trader Joes has a good selection of stuff?

If it is a weekend, or a mass-feeding, I will do dried beans. Otherwise, I don’t have time.

Comment #23: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  12:06 PM

Mighty Ponygirl:  a totally vegan eggplant-and-blackeyed-pea curry

I CAN HAS RESAPEE?

Comment #24: FlipYrWhig  on  01/27  at  12:06 PM

Once oil is heated, put in onion, pepper and garlic and cook until the onion and garlic start to brown.

First you make a <strike>roux</strike> soffritto ...

Fagiolla alá Tuscani

1 24 oz. can Great Northern beans.
1 Red Onion
2 Stalks Celery
2 Carrots
2 Cloves Garlic
2 TB Olive Oil
Rosemary, Fennel, Salt & Pepper to taste

First you make a <strike>roux</strike> mirepoix ...

Chop onion, celery and carrots (ratio 2:1:1) and sauté in olive oil until carrots are soft. About half way through add rosemary, fennel and chopped garlic. Drain the beans and add to the mirepoix. Simmer for 30 mins - 2 hours.

Traditionally, in Tuscany, this dish is served with a T-Bone steak. It really does complement steak well, especially if the beef has been cooked with a rosemary rub.

As a standalone meal I make it with bacon or sausage added. Cook them first in the pan (I actually use a dutch oven for this) so their rendered fat is added to the flavor of the beans. Remove and set aside before making the mirepoix and add back before the simmering.

Comment #25: Sarcastro  on  01/27  at  12:10 PM

Sure! It’s actually from a book called The Curry Book by Nancie McDermott. I use the Patak’s Madras style curry paste (I checked the label and it didn’t appear to have any animal products in it) and Rosemont Shiraz Cabernet (which is also a good wine to drink along with the dinner).

Black-eyed pea and eggplant curry
1 medium eggplant, (about 1 pound), quartered lengthwise, and cut into 1/4” slices.
1 medium onion, thinly sliced
1/4 cup vegetable oil
1/2 tsp salt
1 tbsp garlic, finely chopped
2 tbsp Madras Curry Paste
1 tsp garam masala
1/4 cup dry red wine
15 oz canned black-eyed peas, rinsed & drained
8 oz (1 cup) canned diced tomatoes, including juice
1 cup vegetable broth
basmati rice, cooked, for serving

In a large, heavy saucepan or Dutch oven, heat the oil over medium-high heat for 1 minute. Add the eggplant and cook, tossing, for 1-2 minutes to coat evenly with the oil. Sprinkle with the salt and cook 10 minutes, stirring often, until the eggplant is soft. Reduce the heat to medium, add the onion, garlic, curry paste, and 1/2 tsp garam masala and stir well. Cook 10 minutes, stirring often, until the onion is shiny, fragrant, and tender.

Increase the heat to medium-high, add the wine and simmer, stirring often, until the mixture softens into a thick stew, about 5 minutes. Add the black-eyed peas, tomatoes, and broth, and bring to a gentle boil. Reduce the heat to low and simmer 15 minutes, stirring occasionally; until the black-eyed peas are heated through and the liquid is reduced.

Remove from the heat, transfer to a serving dish and sprinkle with the remaining 1/2 tsp garam masala. Let it stand a few minutes and serve hot or warm atop rice.

Comment #26: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  12:11 PM

I just cannot see myself starting cooking something a day in advance, or even hours in advance slow-cooker style.  I don’t know what I even want that far ahead of time!  How many people actually do that?  It’s like a mental hurdle I can’t get over.  Was it hard for you who do it to get used to the idea, or was it no big thing?

Comment #27: FlipYrWhig  on  01/27  at  12:11 PM

Hm… if only there were a place to store all of these tasty recipes…. wink

Comment #28: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  12:13 PM

Ms. Kate, Almond milk works well too with curry paste (less fat and cheaper).

I think the “cheaper” part depends on where you live, and the “less fat” depends on which grade of coconut milk you buy. 

I work very close to Chinatown and we also frequent asian groceries for 10kg bags of rice, so coconut milk isn’t a specialty item for us.  We also shop in grocery stores that serve both Southeast Asian and Afro-Carrib populations, and these sell coconut milk for $0.79 a can - even the light stuff at Trader Joes or Whole Paycheck is under a dollar!

Meanwhile, I rarely see almond milk for less than $2 or $3 anywhere because we are thousands of miles from the nearest almond grove.  Doesn’t mean that I won’t try it sometime, though ...

Comment #29: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  12:13 PM

Thx much MP, I’m _so_ saving that for later…

Comment #30: FlipYrWhig  on  01/27  at  12:13 PM

Flip—it’s actually a very -quick- recipe. Minimal chopping, you get the rice going at the same time (rice cookers are awesome) and you can eat in less than an hour. It reheats pretty well, too.

Comment #31: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  12:16 PM

I am continually amazed at how many people will turn to McDs or BK or other fast food joints rather than cook at home.  Now, I do understand that there are areas of the country where the majority aren’t well off, and where there aren’t that many good grocery stores.  That really should change; it’d be nice if more grocers were opening rather than fast food chain restaurants.

Jesse’s original posting with the cost of items on the recipe reminds me of High School Home Ec: we had to do a minimum amount of hours (I forget how many, but I think it was 25 hours) of cookery over the last two years of school before we could sit the Leaving Cert Exam in HE; proof that we had done this was the cookery journal where we noted our recipes, along with nutritional values and costs per serving.  It really helps all these many years later when coming up with costs of meals.

Anyway, every few weekends on Sunday afternoon, we’ll roast a small chicken, or make meatloaf, and since the oven’s on, we’ll roast root vegetables (turnip, parsnip, carrots, yams, etc.).  This will give us about four or five meals over the week: chicken salad, cream of veg. soup, chicken soup, etc.  When we have enough bird carcasses in the freezer (usually a minimum of three) we’ll make stock.  It’s not hard to spend little money and have really good food.

And Mighty Ponygirl, I love the on-line recipe database.  Great idea for getting organised paperlessly (is that a word?).

Comment #32: fastiller  on  01/27  at  12:17 PM

Yellow Pea Curry

1/2 lb bag yellow peas
4 cups veggie or chicken broth
3 potatoes, chopped
2 carrots, chopped
chopped celery, if desired
1 small onion, minced
olive oil
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 tblsp jamaican or other decent curry powder (or to taste)
plain yogurt and chives to garnish


Saute the garlic and onion in oil.  Add the broth and bring to boil.  Add the yellow peas and curry powder and reduce heat to low boil, stirring.  Twenty minutes later, add the potatos and carrots and cook until everything is nice and soft.

Serve with yogurt and chives - goes well with warmed nan bread

Comment #33: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  12:20 PM

Mighty Ponygirl is my new internet crush.  I’ve needed something like that recipe database for a while.

Comment #34: Stephen Suh  on  01/27  at  12:20 PM

What bothers me is that there’s absolutly no reason (unless you buy into ‘natural is better’ fallacy) that processed foods or fast foods have to be unhealthy, except that the fast food corps don’t really care about working on the nutrition part. They care about making foods that are addictive and thus will make people come back to them over and over again. Chalk up one more problem with capitalism.

I’ll plead guilty to being both an overly pragmatic ‘food is only fuel’ person (so the gourmet can shun me appropriately) AND being maybe a slightly naive technophile, but is it really too much to ask that somebody comes up with face stuffers that are actually healthy for me instead of loading them up with fat and processed sugar so that I have to choose between cooking/healthy and convenience/unhealthy?

We can rebuild fast food. We have the technology.

Comment #35: BlackBloc  on  01/27  at  12:21 PM

fastiller—thanks! it’s actually not “online”—you download the program onto your computer and keep them safe there, but you can peer-to-peer share with your friends so you get a good snowball of recipes going from there. But all the data is stored locally on your computer.

I have subscriptions to various cooking magazines, and it’s a great way to keep all those recipes in one searchable place ... that, combined with threads like these and the food porn community over at livejournal and sites like Epicurious I’ve found it pretty handy (esp. since you can copy-and-paste the instructions).

Comment #36: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  12:22 PM

Oh, that curry recipe can be as veg or even vegan as you like it - just use veggie broth and leave out the yogurt.

Comment #37: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  12:23 PM

I owe my robust winter health to a totally vegan eggplant-and-blackeyed-pea curry I make regularly during the winter. I never get more than a little congested with that on my menu. Clears out the sinuses, sticks to your ribs like a beef stew.

Yeah, I’m not anything close to being vegan or even vegetarian—I do love meat—but Indian food is really easy to make vegan and it is almost universally tasty.

Here’s my recipe for eggplant and tomato curry:
1 eggplant, cut into medium (1 inch or so) sized chunks
1 can whole tomatoes, without the juice (you can use fresh in summer)
1 onion, diced
A couple of green chilis, diced
1 Tb. ginger/garlic paste (I grate mine on a microplane, but you can also finely chop garlic and ginger)
Cumin seeds (a good pinch, I don’t measure this)
Black mustard seeds (a bit more than the cumin)
Curry leaves (optional, but it makes it really good)
Up to 1Tb. curry powder (whichever blend you like—I use a Sri Lankan Jaffna blend that the mother in law sends from Toronto)
1 tsp. turmeric powder
extra cayenne powder, if you like it hot
Bit of coconut milk powder (you can use canned coconut milk or almond milk instead)
salt to taste

Put a good amount of oil in a hot pan and fry the eggplant until it is browned and soft, which will probably take 5-10 minutes.  Drain the eggplant on towels to remove the oil and leave a tablespoon or so of the oil in the pan.  Saute the onions until they get soft and start to brown, then add the cumin and mustard seeds and fry until the seeds start to pop.  Add the ginger/garlic paste and the rest of the spices and stir until you can really smell it.  Then add the tomatoes and cook for a few minutes, until the tomatoes start to fall apart.  Add the eggplant and enough coconut milk to just loosen it up, up to a half cup or so (I always use the powdered coconut milk mixed with water here—you can get it at the Indian grocery), pop a lid on the pan, and simmer until the eggplant is really soft and the gravy is thickened a bit.  Serve with rice or bread.

I also have a recipe for a completely phenomenal chickpea curry.

Comment #38: ks  on  01/27  at  12:28 PM

Hey, didn’t they ban all unhealthy food in Demolition Man?

Comment #39: Ben D.  on  01/27  at  12:28 PM

I am continually amazed at how many people will turn to McDs or BK or other fast food joints rather than cook at home.

Even when going out for food I fail to see the allure. I drove by a BK lounge with a half dozen cars waiting at the drive-through last night on my way to pick up a Chinese meal that was healthier, far better tasting and cost HALF of what fast food would have run to feed two of us.

Comment #40: Sarcastro  on  01/27  at  12:28 PM

For me McDonalds is a guilty pleasure. About once or twice a month, and it hasn’t larded me up yet. I think fast food is like alcohol—do it in moderation.

Comment #41: Ben D.  on  01/27  at  12:32 PM

My mom says, “If you know how to read, you know how to cook.”  It’s true that there’s a certain amount of skill you get from experience, but the basic message is sound.  Just follow the directions!

I agree about the value of buying dried spices, but during the summer (and even during the winter, you can get the plants at a lot of supermarkets and keep them on your windowsill, and they last quite a while if you water them daily) you should use FRESH HERBS wherever possible.  They’re cheap to grow in the summertime.  Fresh oregano is sooooo much more flavorful than dried, ditto with bay leaves, basil, thyme, marjoram, rosemary, etc. etc.  Fresh herbs take ordinary ingredients to a whole new level.

That being said, another recipe database that I’ve found quite handy is MyRecipes.com.  I use it all the time.

Once you get used to cooking and eating fresh food, your palate changes.  You don’t want fast food.  McDonalds and other fast food literally makes me feel sick if I eat it.  I avoid it whenever possible.

Comment #42: Rumblelizard  on  01/27  at  12:32 PM

rice cookers are awesome

Totally, totally awesome.  I can set mine up and it will just sit there and stay hot while the rest of dinner catches up to it.

My son has an evening class where families take turns preparing the meal.  I made a major vat of the bison chili, a minor vat of veg chili, and a full 12 cups of rice in the rice cooker.  We were able to make the rice, leave the cooker closed, and haul the full load to the dinner by the handle and it was still piping hot on arrival despite the chill evening (my cooker has an integral handle and is built like a thermos).  I’m glad I made cornbread too, because these 7th and 8th graders wiped out the lot of it.

I have also taken a load of rice in the cooker to a potluck .  It was very popular, as many people brought soupy or stewy or stirfry-y or curry-y things that went well with it.

Comment #43: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  12:32 PM

You can make a halfway decent approximation to samp and beans by substituting canned hominy for the rice in rice and beans.  Samp and beans is a traditional staple in southern Africa, and a comfort food for me.

Comment #44: togolosh  on  01/27  at  12:33 PM

Spot on, Jesse, and an invitation to all kinds of recipe-sharing fun.

Here’s a stone-stick-simple but delicious classic any fool can make in minutes: Oil and garlic pasta.

You need:

—Garlic.
—Long-noodle pasta (spaghetti will do nicely).
—Parmigiano reggiano. Invest in a big wedge from your local snobby upscale grocery. It will last you a long time.
—decent olive oil.


Mash 4 or 5 cloves of garlic in garlic press. If you don’t have a press, mash cloves with knife blade, then chop very finely.

Pour a few tablespoons of oil into a saucepan over medium (never high) heat. Toss in mashed-up/finely-chopped garlic.

Start heating water for pasta. Don’t forget to salt the water.

Now for the only step that involves anything like skill or judgment: When garlic starts to saute, watch it carefully. At the first signs of browning, *take the pan OFF the heat*. Garlic will continue to brown and infuse the oil. What you’re aiming to avoid is crisping and/or burning the garlic.

Dump pasta in water when it boils.

If you don’t have a microplane, then now is the time to grate 2-3 handfuls of parmesan as finely as you can with a regular cheese grater. In the absence of any grating tool, you can whack bits of parm off with a knife or a fruit peeler, though it’s not ideal.

When pasta is al dente, drain it, then throw it in the pan with the oil. Return pan to low heat. Mix stuff around so pasta gets coated with garlic-infused oil. Then toss in the cheese. If you have a microplane, you can just plane the cheese right in. Mix around the stuff some more so that cheese melts onto the pasta. Pasta should be slick but not dripping.

Serve immediately in bowls with a simple vegetable side. If you want to be fancy, or just like extra cheese, plane a bit on top of the pasta in the bowl.

You won’t miss meat, what with the alchemical magic you’ve just done by fusing parm, oil, and garlic onto a noodle substrate. And you don’t really need any serious cooking skills to work this magic. If you can maintain a very simple pantry, you can do this any time.

It will get you sex too. Pretty neat.

Comment #45: wapsie  on  01/27  at  12:36 PM

Even a cheap rice cooker that doesn’t have the “stay warm” capacity is such an incredible asset in the kitchen. Trying to prepare rice on a stovetop requires attention that a budding cook might not have while they’re busy chopping and sauteeing and fretting over consistency. It’s a lot easier to dump 1 cup rice and 1 - 1.5 cups water in a cooker and hit the button. 25 minutes later, the rice is done. No boiling over, no “boil for one minute then turn to low and simmer for 20 minutes covered and DON’T FORGET TO TURN IT DOWN GODDAMMIT”, and it’s generally pretty easy to clean up since it won’t burn or scorch if you can’t attend to it right when the rice is done cooking.

Comment #46: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  12:36 PM

Here’s the chickpea curry—it’s from Classic Indian Cooking by Julie Sahni.  It’s really good.

1 can chickpeas with the liquid (or 2 c. cooked chickpeas with 1/2 c. liquid)
1 1 1/2 in. ball of tamarind pulp soaked in 1 1/2 c. boiling water (you can also use 1-2 tsp. tamarind paste, dissolved in the water)
1/2 c. vegetable oil
1 1/2 c. thinly sliced onions
2 tsp. minced garlic
1 Tb. grated fresh ginger root
1/2 tsp. turmeric
1/2 tsp. red pepper
1 c. canned (or fresh) chopped tomatoes
1 1/4 tsp. garam masala powder (or you can grind your own—it’s cinnamon, cardamom, bay, cloves, and a couple of other things that I can’t remember off the top of my head)
1 1/4 tsp. ground roasted cumin seeds

Drain the chickpeas and reserve the liquid.  Heat the oil in a large pan over medium-high heat.  Add the onions and fry, stirring constantly, until they turn brown and shrink down quite a bit (I drain off a good bit of the oil here, but it isn’t in the recipe to do so).  Add the garlic, turmeric, and red pepper and stir until you can smell the garlic.  Then add the tomato and ginger and salt to taste.  Reduce the heat and simmer until the oil begins to separate from the sauce.  Smash up the tamarind pulp and drain the liquid into the tomatoes.  Add the reserved chickpea liquid and simmer for 10-15 minutes.  Then add the chick peas, garam masala, and cumin and cook another 10 minutes.  Mash up some of the chickpeas so that it’s thickened a bit and sort of chunky.  Serve with the Indian bread of your choice (we like poori, but it’s also good with parathas and naan).

This will keep in the fridge for several days and it also freezes really well.

Comment #47: ks  on  01/27  at  12:43 PM

Mighty Ponygirl:

I have no idea why people insist on chopping a squash and then cooking it.
I stab a squash with a knife a coupla times, put it in the oven on 350, and go away for an hour. (With, I guess, a nose to whether or not it’s caught fire. No, I’m totally lying, I go to the laundromat and hope nothing happens.)

When I get it out, I handle it with a dishtowel, but the peel pops right off and the seeds scoop right out. I have noticed no difference in taste or quality. And squash is, for the nutrition and taste, freaking cheap.

Comment #48: purpleshoes  on  01/27  at  12:43 PM

Once you get used to cooking and eating fresh food, your palate changes.  You don’t want fast food.

I have to sadly disagree.  I am a good cook and my partner is an excellent cook, even baking her own bread (from scratch in the oven - no bread maker) and making her own cheese.  My favorite Sunday activity is to spend the day cooking a variety of things that we will feast on all week.

And I adore fast food.  Double cheeseburgers are a gift from God.  Especially with bacon.  Actually, it doesn’t even matter what it is—Taco Bell, JackintheBox, McD’s, Burger King, Carl’s Jr./Hardees, Arby’s—omg, it’s almost lunchtime and I’m DOOOOOOMED.

Comment #49: elmo  on  01/27  at  12:45 PM

Nothing fancy here—but if you’re looking for something that will stretch, you can get a load of leftovers from this.

Mike’s Quick and Easy Pasta Sauce

1 28oz can whole tomatoes (Italian tomatoes are best for only about 80 cents more per can, but store brand will work just fine)
2-3 cloves garlic, chopped
8 oz or so fresh mushrooms, sliced
1/4 tsp. red pepper flakes
1 link sweet Italian sausage, casing removed (optional if you want to make it veggie—or soyrizo, believe it or not, makes an OK substitute)
basil, parsley, oregano, tarragon, salt, pepper
olive oil
red cooking wine
1 lb. dried pasta—your choice

1. Saute the garlic over medium heat in a a tsp. of olive oil—a tbsp. if you’re not using the sausage—until fragrant, about a minute
2. If using the sausage, put it in there and break it up with your spatula. Saute until it’s almost all browned.
3. Add the mushrooms and pepper flakes. Stir them around a bit. Add a splash of the red wine. Cover and cook for about 5 minutes to cook the mushrooms down a bit.
4. Uncover. Saute the mushrooms some more until almost all of the liquid has evaporated. Add the tomatoes and juice, breaking up the tomatoes into chunks. Re-cover, reduce heat to medium low, and cook for 10 minutes.
5. Get the water for the pasta going.
6. Uncover the sauce. Add the spices to taste. (If you’re using dried spices, I tend to use a couple of teaspoons of each, except the tarragon—maybe a half teaspoon…it goes a long way.) Salt and pepper to taste. Continue to cook over medium-low heat, and break up any remaining large chunks of the tomatoes. The sauce will thicken as the tomatoes break down.
7. While this is going on, cook the pasta. Drain.

I personally like to use penne, and then toss all the sauce with the pasta—but you can serve it up any way you like. Easy and scrumptious. Bust out a bottle of inexpensive Montepulciano d’Abruzzo or Primitivo and you’re all set. (Lots of inexpensive wine suggestions here: http://www.thenakedvine.net)

Comment #50: thenakedvine  on  01/27  at  12:46 PM

The thing about spices isn’t where you get them, it’s that you buy them in bags.

Spice companies are value-added jar retailers.  You can walk into Penzeys and buy 1 oz of anise in a Jar for 6 bucks or you can buy a 4 oz bag (more than you’ll ever need) for $2.  And the bag is RIGHT NEXT TO the jars.  In fact they will even sell you an empty jar and you’ll still pay less.

Don’t buy your spices in jars.  It’s insane.

Comment #51: Ape Man  on  01/27  at  12:47 PM

seconded, thirded, fourthed? on the rice cooker front. even if you don’t eat rice every other night, they’re still awesome. i can’t recommend my zojirushi highly enough. oh, and if you get one fancy enough to have a start-cooking-at-x-time function (and can figure out the proper hydration, it takes a few tries) you can set it to make oatmeal for breakfast. what could be nicer?

Comment #52: ibaien  on  01/27  at  12:49 PM

Blackbloc, Amy’s Frozen Burritos. $2.50 for a meal, minimal packaging. I am moving house and sick as hell and just bought a week’s worth of dinners for $15. I couldn’t actually buy those vegetables for that cheap in this season.

But that is rather trodding on the noble intent of the thread, so I will also say: sometimes it takes a while before you find your bean match. I was raised on black beans with onions - a meal I honestly still kind of hate - but then I discovered cannelloni beans with olive oil and Italian herbs. (Great way to revive your dry herbs: mix them into 2 tbsp of olive oil and bake on 200 in a toaster oven for 15 minutes. Add some lemon zest and juice to this and you’ve got my favorite bean dressing.) I could eat white beans and italian herbs every day.

And confession time: I’m too cheap and lazy to figure out what herbs mix well with what. I buy health-food brand Pizza Herb Mix. It works awesome.

Comment #53: purpleshoes  on  01/27  at  12:52 PM

Ape Man - plus, you can usually buy cheap spice jars that you can label at almost any general goods store.

Comment #54: Jesse Taylor  on  01/27  at  12:53 PM

Just another nod to Asian markets.

Buy ginger there.  You think you’ve ever gotten fresh ginger at another store?  Dream on.  The ginger from an Asian market is amazing.  Peel just a smidgen of the skin off, and your entire kitchen smells of ginger.

Yum.

Comment #55: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  01/27  at  12:57 PM

aye on the bottles for spices - and in general, it helps to have a bunch of jars and plastic containers around to save/store food in. Just make sure they have large openings so they are easy to clean. The type that really seal shut will save your ass when the moths come through.

My favorite recipe for speed and ease is polenta:
mix polenta with boiling water, rosemary, thyme, olive oil, salt, and any combination of onion, garlic, tomatoes, olives, cheese (gorgonzola or feta work great), frozen spinach or fresh arugula. Fast, excellent, cheap food.

My second favorite is rice and lentils mixed together in the rice cooker, with yoghurt and mango pickle (from the Indian store). Even less work, very nutritious, excellent.

Comment #56: CassieC  on  01/27  at  01:02 PM

Mighty Ponygirl:

I have no idea why people insist on chopping a squash and then cooking it.

If I’m just mashing the squash, then that’s more or less what I do. But if the recipe requires the squash to be cubed (like curry-roasted butternut squash and chickpeas) then I don’t know how the squash would hold up.

Curry-roasted butternut squash and chickpeas

2 large butternut squash, peeled, seeded, and cut into 1” dice
1 19-oz can chickpeas, drained,rinsed, dried
1/4 cup extra-virgin olive oil
1 tbsp mild curry powder
1/4 tsp cayenne pepper
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
3 cups plain whole-milk yogurt
3/4 cup cilantro, finely chopped
3 tbsp fresh lemon juice

Preheat the oven to 375°F. In a large bowl, toss the butternut squash with the chickpeas, olive oil, curry, and cayenne and season with salt and pepper. Spread the squash cubes on a large rimmed baking sheet and roast for 1 hour or until tender.

Meanwhile, in a medium bowl, stir the yogurt with the cilantro and lemon juice and season with salt and pepper.

Spoon the roasted butternut squash and chickpeas onto a platter and drizzle with 1/2 cup of the yogurt sauce. Serve the remaining yogurt sauce. Serve the remaining yogurt sauce on the side.

Comment #57: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  01:04 PM

Caren is right about this.  And when the ginger is that fresh, you can make your own candied ginger:

Bring 1 1/2 c. water and 1c. sugar to the boil and let cook until slightly thickened.  While that’s going, peel and thinly slice (1/8 inch or so thick) about 1/2 a cup worth of ginger.  Add the ginger to the syrup, reduce the heat, and simmer for about an hour, until the ginger is soft and translucent.  Remove the ginger to a wire rack to cool, making sure it’s spread into a single layer.  Once the ginger is cool, roll in granulated sugar and store in an airtight container with a bit of extra sugar.  This stuff keeps for a good long time and the extra sugar can be used for tea or in other hot drinks where you want a nice kick of ginger.  Use the candied ginger just to eat out of hand, or you can finely dice it and use in pretty much any baked good (it’s insanely delicious in pumpkin pie and also very nice in oatmeal cookies).

And if you strain the extra syrup and keep in a jar in the fridge, it makes delicious ginger ale.  Just mix it to taste with carbonated water.

Comment #58: ks  on  01/27  at  01:05 PM

Ms Kate, ks and Togolosh just provided me with my grocery list for the week. Too bad none of my roommates like curry.

The big staples when I was growing up were pasta and oil, rice and stuff (sauteed zucchini, stirfried beet greens, what have you) and potato pea curry. My roommate from the summer and I used to make giant feasts of potato pea curry, daal and yogurt biscuits. Unfortunately, it’s one of those things I can only make from memory, so the recipe below is really unorganized and messed up.

Potato Pea Curry
6-8 potatoes
1/2 pound of frozen peas (adjust to how much you like/dislike peas)
Curry paste (again, whatever you like/have on hand. I go through a jar of Patak’s hot a week)
Oil for cooking
Black mustard seeds (optional)
Yogurt

Wash and chop the potatoes into reasonably-sized pieces, then set aside. Heat oil in the pan, a little more than strictly needed to cover the bottom, and when it’s hot, add the black mustard seed and two big spoonfuls of curry paste, and stir that around. Then, add the potatoes and get them covered in the oil and spice mixture. Let that cook for just a minute or two, then add a cup of water and cover. Cook til potatoes are soft and add the peas, let them cook for a minute, and add the yogurt. Serve with bread of some sort and veggies.

I’m afraid the daal recipe’s even worse - it’s basically “cook daal with spices, add butter at the end.”

Does anyone else have foods they cook just by “eh, that looks right?”

Comment #59: Matty  on  01/27  at  01:06 PM

I second the vote for Mujadarah! The ultimate cheap, fast food! I could get in from work, put it on to cook, get changed, do my chores, and have hot food ready to go by the time I was ready to eat, about half an hour. And all in one pot, even better! Plus, I would put in some spinach at the end for a true one-dish meal.

I learned about this combo from a Middle Eastern cookbook, and it is a great idea, since lentils and rice both cook quickly. Good with thick Greek yogurt, a bit of cheese, a glass of milk, or whatever.

Comment #60: means are the ends  on  01/27  at  01:07 PM

I do all the time, Matty.  In fact, the only reason I can even give measurements on lots of my curry recipes (which I learned with no measurement from my mother in law) is because couple of years ago I made up cookbooks as Christmas gifts for my mom, sisters, and cousins and I had to make every curry recipe (and a few others that I just sort of made up) in them and measure as I went in order to be able to write it down.  So I have a word file with loads of curry recipes typed up and saved on a hard drive in my basement.

Comment #61: ks  on  01/27  at  01:09 PM

Matty—when I make my penne and vodka sauce, that’s a “eh, that’s about right.” I think part of this is that I do quality control on the vodka before I add it to the sauce. wink

Comment #62: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  01:10 PM

Also, I feel really bad for anyone on this thread who doesn’t like curry.

Comment #63: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  01:14 PM

Secret keys to cooking at home:

1.  Plan out week’s menu in advance.  If you love drooling over cookbooks like I do, this is fun.  Pick food you want to eat.  I really do flip through my cookbooks and go “Oh man, that curry sounds good as hell” and write it down.  If you don’t have cookbooks, just think about food you generally like to eat, and google for recipes.  Even if you only like pizza and hamburgers, you can make it at home cheaper.  Write down what day you’ll make what dish.
2.  Make grocery list based on this.  As you look at each recipe, write down what it calls for and what quantities.  Check your pantry to see what you already have.  You will quickly gain a mental inventory of your pantry and not need to visually check it.
3.  Plan any advance prep needed (i.e. putting something in the crockpot the night before, putting meat in the fridge to defrost).  Seriously, put it on your calendar if you’re likely to forget (like me).
4.  Shop.
5.  Make food according to your written plan.  Bonus points if it’s something you can make in quantity, then freeze.  Casseroles (including lasagna) and stews are ideal for this.  If you can invest in one of those vacuum food sealer dealies, do so.  If you can’t, just buy some freezer bags and those “disposable” tupperwares (and reuse them).

Last week we made vegan chili, split pea soup, lasagna, and sweet potato and kidney bean burritos.  The freezer is packed and I have plenty for lunches and quick dinners.

Keep pasta, canned diced/crushed tomatoes, onions, garlic, basil and oregano, and olive oil in your kitchen at all times.  If nothing else you can make a good quick marinara sauce.

And buy How To Cook Everything by Mark Bittman.  If you’re vegetarian buy the vegetarian version.  It’s truly amazing.  If you have no cookbooks, this may be the only one you need.

Comment #64: snowmentality  on  01/27  at  01:19 PM

Again, this is where progressives might have common cause with economic libertarians.  One of the reasons that crap food costs far less than healthy food is that large-scale food processors get, IIRC, very large subsidies and tax breaks and advantages (which are de facto subsidies) from their tame state and federal legislators.  Small farms can’t afford to buy congresscritters, in other words.  The crap food big guys also are able to turn the legislative/enforcement process to their advantage in a classic case of corporate “capture” theory.

I saw it myself in operation near SSM, Michigan.  There was a small family dairy which had people come from miles around to get their milk, chocolate milk and other products.  Hell, people (including myself) crossed from Canada just to go there, to the point where the border guards were utterly used to it.  The health authorities snap-inspected that place something like three times in one year, far more than the industrial places get. (It passed all, by the way.)  It was pretty much common knowledge that the health authorities were responding to pressure from up the political food chain.

Comment #65: seeker6079  on  01/27  at  01:20 PM

Mighty Ponygirl - do you have time to share what you can remember of your vodka sauce recipe with us?

Comment #66: Matty  on  01/27  at  01:22 PM

snowmentality—I do this. Planning menus in advance mean less wasted food, less $$ spent at the grocery store, no last-minute “omg what are we going to eat let’s just order pizza” nights. It’s also a good way to keep a bead on how healthy you’re eating. If you have a week’s worth of groceries piled up at the check-out, you get a good idea of how much fresh fruits and vegetables you consume during a week vs. canned/boxed dinners, meats, etc.

Comment #67: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  01:23 PM

>>Blackbloc, Amy’s Frozen Burritos.

They’re awesome. My issue is more with variety than with availability. I’d like to be able to eat my 3 meals a day, cook maybe two to four times a week, and not eat the same stuff every day.

Between work, activism and competitive gaming (Magic: The Gathering, miniatures, etc), the latest activity involving writing articles, playtesting (so I can actually win and write something useful for my readers) and travelling to tournaments a few weekends each month, I don’t have much time or patience for activities which don’t relax or entertain me. And cooking, for me, is a chore, not relaxing or entertaining.

Comment #68: BlackBloc  on  01/27  at  01:27 PM

Does anyone else have foods they cook just by “eh, that looks right?”

That’s why no bison chili or ZBC recipe from me - I really have no farking clue how much of what I throw in those ...

I will give one hint on the chili: when it is about done, throw in a couple of teaspoons (or tablespoons) of cocoa powder.  Thickens it up and gives it a very rich flavor.

Comment #69: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  01:28 PM

Two words: Rotisserie chickens.

They’re only about a dollar more than raw whole roasters. You can munch on them to your heart’s content for that night’s dinner, then skin and cut up the leftovers for soup, stew, fajitas, whatever. You can also make stock from the bones, at least in theory (I’ve never tried it).

The only drawback is, you have to be ready to eat as soon as you get back from the grocery store.

Comment #70: Bitter Scribe  on  01/27  at  01:29 PM

As for planning meals in advance…  I try to do that, and then on the day in question I go “oh pooh, I don’t want to eat this… what’s the date on it? two weeks from now? meh, maybe some other day this week”. I can barely decide what I want to eat in 30 mins, much less later this week.

Comment #71: BlackBloc  on  01/27  at  01:30 PM

Does anyone else have foods they cook just by “eh, that looks right?”

You mean there’s food that you don’t cook that way?  Even when I have a recipe it’s just a suggestion.  Except in baking, which is why I’m not a very good baker.

Comment #72: Stephen Suh  on  01/27  at  01:32 PM

The only drawback is, you have to be ready to eat as soon as you get back from the grocery store.

You mean they make it home intact?

We get them at costco for like $4 or $5 a piece.  We don’t make anything with them, well, maybe they get burritoed or pastafied.  Mostly, they sit there and get ripped up by people with bread or crackers in their hands.

Our neighbor ran into us in Costco one time, and then had the excellent idea to head back to grab one.  We bought bread, picked up sodas at the checkout, and met at the canteen to rip it all apart and eat it.  The six of us created a carcass and a pile of crumbs quite quickly.

Comment #73: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  01:33 PM

Sure:
Penne and Vodka Sauce
1 28-oz can whole plum tomatoes, partially drained, ends removed from tomatoes and chopped into fine dice
2 tbsp olive oil
1 medium onion, cut into small dice
1-2 cloves garlic, minced (more to taste)
1/3 cup Vodka. (Tito’s handmade vodka is amazing if you haven’t tried it)
1/2 cup heavy cream
2 tbsp or more fresh basil, or 1 tbsp dried basil
1 tsp dried oregano or fresh oregano
1 tsp or more dried red pepper flakes
1 tsp salt
box penne
sweet italian sausage, cut into 1/2 slices and cooked thoroughly (optional)
Parmesan cheese (for serving)

Cook the penne according to the directions on the box

Meanwhile, Heat the olive oil in a large heavy skillet over medium heat. Add the onions and garlic and saute until soft and just beginning to brown. Add tomatoes and a little bit of reserved juice and vodka.  Bring to a simmer and reduce heat to medium-low and simmer for 15 minutes. Return heat to medium, add cream, basil, oregano, pepper flakes, salt, and sausage (if using) and stir to combine. Heat through (3-4 minutes). Serve vodka sauce over penne with Parmesan cheese over top. Enjoy with a vodka dirty martini.

Vodka dirty martini
1/4 cup vodka (TITO’S!)
2 oz dry vermouth
splash olive brine
3 green olives

Combine vodka, vermouth, and brine in cocktail shaker filled with ice. Shake vigorously. Strain into cocktail glass. Serve with 3 olives on a toothpick. Watch American Gladiators and laugh your ass off.

Comment #74: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  01:33 PM

Blackbloc, that’s where toppings come in.  What you put on a potato can be the same as what you put on a french bread pizza, a pile of pasta, even some rice.

Chop once, eat many.  If you have some bags of things you like chopped up or shredded in your fridge, or some frozen veggies that are easily ready to go, you can just grab what looks good and nuke a potato or make some noodles, etc.

Comment #75: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  01:39 PM

I just cannot see myself starting cooking something a day in advance, or even hours in advance slow-cooker style.  I don’t know what I even want that far ahead of time!  How many people actually do that?  It’s like a mental hurdle I can’t get over.  Was it hard for you who do it to get used to the idea, or was it no big thing?

After an entire day of smelling something in the slow cooker, you’ll want to eat whatever it is.  Pot roasts and BBQ pork are absolute torture to be around while they’re slow cooking.  I think you have to plan for slow cooking before you even shop for ingredients so that you can plan the other meals around the long cook time.  It’s really nice if you live with someone who can’t always get their own food, like kids or disabled partners, because you don’t have to be there to cook for them.

I don’t really have any slow cooker recipes to share. We do eat this stew fairly often because it’s easy for us to keep dried lentils and beans in the house.  We don’t use the rice, I imagine it would be great with toasted flatbread on the side.

Comment #76: Godless Heathen  on  01/27  at  01:43 PM

On the cubed squash theme, we’ve taken to doing a winter squash (usually butternut or kabocha) with pasta.  Several variations on the theme have occoured, but my favorite so far was as a baked penne dish with the cubed squash in a white sauce with just a hint of gorgonzola, sauteed onions, garlic, chicken, a little pancetta, sage and rosemary.

The thing I love is that, while the recipes are useful starting points, they’re endlessly variable once you start improvising.  The same ingredients for that baked dish could be recombined half a dozen ways to make similar dishes, all equally good, with little effort.  It’s a great outlet for creative impulses once you allow yourself to color outside the lines a bit.

Comment #77: jamie d  on  01/27  at  01:52 PM

I suffer from fairly severe cooking anxiety, so I’m hoping Mighty Ponygirl’s software can help a bit.  One of the problems with cookbooks and the like is that they tend to be aimed at people who like to cook.  I hate it.  It’s up there with cleaning the kitty litter on my list of fun domestic activities.  Thing is, for people like me the distaste for cooking often leads to severe food wastage because we’re fuckups in the kitchen.  It’s all well and good to say home made is half the price of prepared foods, but if you toss half of everything you make (because it tastes like ass) it’s a wash.

My plan for the next six months or so is to get a handle on this sort of stuff.  It’s mostly about health, but also cost.  I’m going to try the rice and beans, and also MP’s warez, which sounds like it might be mighty helpful.

Comment #78: togolosh  on  01/27  at  01:55 PM

How about this:

Once the thread winds down, I’ll take all the recipes that have been posted here and put them into a export-file and post it to my recipe site so that people who have downloaded the empty recipe db shell can “seed” their recipe db from all the tasty stuff that’s been posted here. I’ll credit everyone’s “screen names.”

Sound good?

Comment #79: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  02:00 PM

sounds like a plan!

Comment #80: jamie d  on  01/27  at  02:07 PM

I remember an epic thread like this at Steve Gilliard’s old place.  I tried to print it out and make it a quasi-cookbook, and it was an UNGODLY number of pages.  It’s still in a box somewhere in my house.

Comment #81: FlipYrWhig  on  01/27  at  02:07 PM

“Does anyone else have foods they cook just by ‘eh, that looks right?’”

All the time. Once you get the basics—cooking rice (you really don’t need a cooker—I’m for minimum equipment, minimum cost), sauteing onions/mushrooms/garlic, boiling pasta, browning or baking meat, etc.—it’s a just a matter of mixing and applying sauces and spices.

I’m too lazy to do fancy stuff out of recipe books very often. Bittman’s _How to Cook Everything_ (already noted) is a must; I think Michael Chiarello’s books on basic fast Italian-style cookery are excellent too (he’ll tell you how to stock a basic pantry).

I’ve never been able to do Asian cooking at home with good results. I leave that to experts.

[Grouchy mean-spirited remarks about earnest liberal white people and their extra-special red-sauce recipes would have gone here, but I decided not to be a douche. The sauce recipes here look good, actually.]

Comment #82: wapsie  on  01/27  at  02:14 PM

Togolosh, we are currently wrestling with a similar situation, but to a different end.  Our older son is getting to a good age to learn to cook, but we need to start him off in a simple way so he learns with some confidence.

One thing we have looked into is cooking classes, which he is currently too young for.  That’s something you might try - not high end stuff, but basic skills courses.  The other is to get him going on really simple things that involve basic skill building

The problem being that he likes good food and starting simple kind of frustrates him.  For now, I let him sous chef so he can learn, but ends up with something a bit fancier.

Comment #83: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  02:17 PM

When shopping in supermarkets, I buy what’s on sale: it’s seasonal for fruits and veggies, for one thing.

At the height of summer, beef can be $2 a pound as steaks or whatever, when it’s that cheap I freeze it (only wish I’d bought and frozen more.)

One of my neighbors told me that the fresh ground hamburger goes down to 88 cents a pound after 8 pm at Albertsons, although I haven’t been there to ask.

I hafta eat meat—actually get sick on too many carbs, and my food allergies include all the usual protein sources for vegetarians.

Also: the 99 cent store carries local fresh produce in Californis, same brands sometimes as whole foods, even some organic, and frozen fish, name brand hot dogs (which I freeze) and $1 spices. I now go there first before either Trader Joe’s or the supermarket.

But when I had ethnic stores near me in New York, I bought there, and one year worked my way through an entire Chinese cookbook cover to cover.

I make big stews and soups all at once and freeze dinner portions, which saved me last week when I had the flu, and barely had the energy to take the pre-frozen chicken soup out of the fridge.

Comment #84: judybrowni  on  01/27  at  02:44 PM

In my still-developing cooking experience, the thing that made the biggest difference most quickly was switching from buying the glass jars of pasta sauce to just buying canned tomatoes, tomato paste, and working from there.  “Authentic”?  Certainly not, just futzing around and seeing what might come out nicely.  Seeing how easy it was made me feel like a huge sucker for buying the syrupy jarred stuff for so long.

Comment #85: FlipYrWhig  on  01/27  at  02:59 PM

Here’s one of our favorites Thai Chicken with Basil Stir Fry.  Most of the ingredients are easy to keep in the pantry.  We made it last night , and I just had to stop and pick up the chicken and fresh basil, and boy was I glad I did.  The nice grocery store on my way home from work occasionally gets a large supply of fresh basil from a local hothouse.  I cleaned them out, and now I have nice supply of homemade pesto sitting in the fridge just waiting for me to make some pasta to go with it.

Comment #86: KarateMonkey  on  01/27  at  03:10 PM

Pizza costs about $15 if you don’t top it and don’t already have flour or olive oil in the house. Takes some of the spontaneity out, though.

Comment #87: Hershele Ostropoler  on  01/27  at  03:31 PM

Let me cast another vote for Bittman’s How to Cook Everything. It’s the first cookbook I ever owned and it dramatically improved my quality of life as a poor grad student. My wife and I have given away many copies (of both the original and veggie versions) as wedding and housewarming gifts. I made variations on the tomato sauce and pizza recipes in there so often that I’ve committed them to memory.

Homemade pizza is a staple at our house, especially in the summer, when you can cook it quickly on the grill. Sure, the flour and oil cost a bit (still less than dinner for four at McDonalds) up front, but you’ll have enough to use for numerous dishes for weeks or months. Here’s the recipe:

3 cups all-purpose or bread flour (substitute 1/2 cup cornmeal or whole wheat flower if you like)
1 tsp active dry yeast
2 tsp-1 Tbsp salt (I like coarse sea salt)
2Tbsp Olive Oil
1 cup warm water
Extra flour and water as needed

Combine half the flour and the other dry ingredients in a large bowl. Stir until well mixed. Add water and oil. Stir until smooth. Keep stirring and add remaining flower gradually, until dough becomes a thick, sticky lump that pulls away from sides of bowl. Dust a clean surface with flower, put a little oil on your hands, and gently knead the dough until it’s a smooth ball. If it’s too sticky, add a little flour, if it’s too dry, add a little water.

Smear a little oil inside a large bowl and set the dough ball in it. Cover with a damp towel or plastic wrap and let rise for 1-2 hours (longer if you put the bowl in the fridge).

When dough is risen, punch in down and either wrap in plastic and store in fridge or freezer (it keeps great) or use a roller or your hands to gently stretch it into the desire shape. Top it as you like, bake in oven preheated to 450 or so for 8-10 minutes.

If you’re doing it on the grill, divide your dough into two pizzas (easier to turn) and roll out fairly thin. Turn grill to high, brush both sides of the crust with oil, and place on grate. Grill for a few minutes, until it starts to brown. Flip, add whatever (not too soggy) toppings you want, grill for a few minutes more (close the lid if you have cheese that needs to melt), and serve.

Dough keeps indefinitely in the freezer, so you can pull out a ball of it in the morning, let it set on the counter all day, and it’s ready to use when you get home for dinner. It also makes good foccacia bread.

Comment #88: Justin K.  on  01/27  at  03:39 PM

OK, the recipes on this thread are available in a recipe export file for the database.

Here’s what you do:
1. <a href=“http://www.mightyponygirl.com/recipedb/db/Pandagon.zip”>Download the zipped data file.
2. Unzip the file
  a.Windows double-click on the zip file (Pandagon.zip). Drag the file “recipe_export.rcx” to your desktop or click the “Extract all files” link and select your desktop as the destination.
  b.Mac double-click on the zip file—it might make a folder called Pandagon on your desktop, drag the file “recipe_export.rcx” out of the folder onto the desktop.
3. Start up your recipes database as normal.
4. In the list view, go to the File Menu and select “Import Recipes”
5. The recipes should import and display. If you’ve saved the file somewhere other than the desktop, it will ask you to locate the file recipe_export.rcx

Comment #89: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  03:39 PM

whoops, forgot my closing tag. that’s Download the data file.

Comment #90: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  03:39 PM

Oh, and you can delete the zip file and the recipes_export.rcx file off of your desktop once the recipes are in the database.

Comment #91: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  03:47 PM

Bitter Scribe:

Yes, the rotisserie chicken carcasses (or any other chicken parts) turn into stock very nicely, especially if you include the sludge from the bottom of the package (assuming it’s not one of the fancy flavors). I usually shortcut the process by throwing a serving of brown rice in after it gets simmering and then some veg 10 minutes before I want to eat. I pour off the extra liquid, then eat everything in the pot but the skin and bones. If you have a cold, add at the beginning a bunch of red pepper flakes and julienned ginger, and it will open you right up.

Yeah, what always surprises me is how much McDonalds costs next to other cheapish restaurant options (you’re paying for those ads and the central establishments) much less cooking at home. Even pizza (which reheats just fine in a toaster oven, thanks).

(And of course also works for any other

Comment #92: paul  on  01/27  at  04:04 PM

If you’re thinking about getting a beginner cookbook, I would suggest the Better Homes and Gardens cookbook or the Fannie Farmer cookbook. I’m not too fond of Joy of Cooking, because 1) they don’t give you a list of all the ingredients you need up-front and you have to read through the recipe and take notes to get your list together, 2) the type is small and hard-to-read 3) the recipes aren’t that great.

Comment #93: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  04:07 PM

Simple meaty pasta sauce:

1 1/2 lb. ground beef
1 medium sized yellow onion, diced.
1 green pepper, diced.
5 cloves garlic, diced.
62 oz tomato sauce (4 15-oz or 2 31 oz)
1.5 tbsp oregano
2 tsp cayenne pepper

Brown the meat in a largish pot.  While meat is browning, chop up the garlic, onion, and green pepper.  Put a little cayenne powder on the meat when it’s almost browned.  Drain off some fat if you’re so inclined.

Add everything else, tomato sauce first.  Allow to simmer for 30 minutes or so while you boil the water for the pasta, cook the pasta, drain the pasta, and then look briefly and longingly at the pasta.  Don’t cheap out on the pasta.

If the taste isn’t quite working, add or remove garlic, oregano, or cayenne pepper.  It’s your sauce, man.

Serves 6, or more if you make some garlic bread or salad or something.  Works great with rice and rice pasta, oddly enough.  Isn’t half bad with some sausage thrown in.

Comment #94: Punditus Maximus  on  01/27  at  04:24 PM

If you’re a small household (1 or 2 people) I reccomend my favorite cookbook: Healthy Cooking for Two (or just you).

The quantities for each recipe are for 1 and 2 servings (2 sets of measurments) or for 2 or 4 servings if it makes good leftovers.  And it pays attention to things like the sizes of cans sold, so you don’t have a lot of leftover ingredients after cooking.  Doesn’t require fancy tools, and the recipes generally taste good and turn out well.

http://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Cooking-Two-Just-You/dp/0875964486/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233084487&sr=8-1

Comment #95: Ursula L  on  01/27  at  04:30 PM

I am a big fan of simple stir fry, you can use any seasonal vegetable and tofu.  I am a meat eater, but I just think tofu is really good if you don’t pretend that it is a substitute for meat, but a good food in its own right.  I take the pressed tofu and cut it into 1 inch cubes, then soak it in lime juice and cayenne.  Then fry it in peanut oil, once the outside begins to get crispy, put in the vegetables (I like bell-peppers, onions, amd zucchini in the summer and onions, carrots, and cabbage in the winter).  Season it with soy sauce or peanut sauce.  Serve over rice.  The stir-fry will keep in the fridge for 3 or 4 days. Of course all that peanut oil might have something to do with my name…

Comment #96: Fatman  on  01/27  at  04:35 PM

Ms Kate - Sous chef sounds like good prep, laying the basic skills for doing the whole shebang.  Alternatively, if he wants to fly high right off the bat, give him free reign and expect to eat a few meals that are “interesting” during the learning period.  If you work sous chef you can help avoid major disasters.

Comment #97: togolosh  on  01/27  at  05:01 PM

@ Fatman:  how much lime juice do you use for a whole brick of tofu?

Comment #98: FlipYrWhig  on  01/27  at  05:07 PM

So I though I didn’t like celery. The flavor just doesn’t do it for me, even with peanut butter or ranch dressing. BUT my partner is a chef and taught me how to cook with it. Makes everything (except, like, chocolate cake) taste better. And It’s cheap…

Get equal weights (guessing is fine) of peeled carrots, celery, and onions (any kind is fine). For every onion, one medium clove garlic. Dice (or food processor, I guess) fine. 1/16” is best. Slice the garlic thinly. Saute everything in olive oil until soft. Do not brown. Store in fridge up to 2 weeks. Just a spoon full or two makes everything taste richer and more home made and wonderful. Partner says the combination produces Umami. Add to pasta sauce, soups, stew, braises…ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING Even if you’re adding big chunks of these veg, the little pieces give a different effect, so use both. And it’s quick!

My other tip is to buy mushrooms (the little brown cremini taste best) when they’re on sale (or not expensive). Clean, whatever, and dice as finely as you can. Finer than that. Food processor activate! Do the same to an onion… About 1 onion per pound of mushies. Saute in a little butter or olive oil and cook it down over low heat. You’ve got to keep stirring or it’ll burn. You want to cook almost all the water out, and you’ll have just a little bit left compared to what you started with. Store in the fridge for two weeks or freeze in spoonfulls on a cookie sheet or in an ice cube tray. Just a spoonfull gives anything a great rich mushroom flavor. I like this because mushrooms go bad so quickly if you’re not careful and this stuff keeps really well. For gourmet, add a little of your favorite fancy mushroom to the mix when you’re cooking it down. For 1/2 lbs of raw mush, 3 tiny dried morel mushrooms will flavor it all a little (if using dried mushrooms break them up into little pieces and throw them in dry)

Those two tips make week night dinner quick and easy and TASTY! And they’re affordable and add more veg to your diet!

Comment #99: wreckerofplans  on  01/27  at  05:08 PM

For some real food porn, try my girl Deb in the Smitten Kitchen. She blogs about each recipe, with gorgeous photos along the way.

I sent my dad her post on garlic soup, and he wrote back, “I think I’m in love with that girl.”

Mighty Ponygirl, I went to look at my bookmarks and found I already had your DB bookmarked. Guess I better download it, huh? Especially since I need to gather a bunch of recipes to contribute to my church’s cookbook.

Comment #100: hamletta  on  01/27  at  05:31 PM

Cooking isn’t difficult if you’re not trying to do something fancy. And it doesn’t take a lot of skill or time to make simple meals. Just throw some chopped onion and green pepper into bottled tomato sauce and it’s 100000X better. But I digress.

Menu planning is the most labor-intensive and intimidating part for me. You want to make fun new recipes, but also be sure that that bag of cumin or jasmine rice isn’t going to only get used for that one recipe and then sit around until it goes bad, but you ALSO don’t want to eat jasmine rice every day for a week. I find it difficult to know whether buying something in bulk is going to be a good deal or not, because I might not feel like eating that much before it’s unusable.

And if you feel like eating out (no crime!), I’d say patronize local ethnic restaurants if you can, because you’ll help the economy, the food is fresher, and honestly, fast food can be just as expensive. There’s a great Middle Eastern place right next to a Burger King near me that’s about $6 for a full plate of food, and less for a lunch special. Their parking lot is always full.

Comment #101: unrelatedwaffle  on  01/27  at  05:40 PM

Smitten Kitchen is pretty nice. I grabbed that Clementine Cake recipe

Comment #102: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/27  at  06:07 PM

I lived on this in college, and it has become my kids’ favorite meal.  Cheap, yummy and full of good stuff!

2 pie crusts -  Make your own if you like.  I buy them pre-made.
8 - 10 eggs, depending on size…. of eggs and/or appetites
1 pkg firm tofu
8 oz feta cheese
8 oz mozzarella -  Optional, but tasty!
10-12 oz fresh spinach - or 2 pkgs frozen if you prefer
pepper - it doesn’t need salt, because the feta is salty
herbs to taste   - basil, oregano, marjoram, dill, tarragon, chives, or whatever you’d like

Use mixer to blend eggs, tofu, feta and herbs.  The tofu and feta will be a little lumpy, so don’t worry if it’s not perfectly smooth.

Microwave fresh spinach 2-3 minutes or until “flat”.  Add to mixture and stir with spoon.

- OR - Microwave frozen spinach until thawed.  Add to mixture and stir.  You may want to drain it out a bit if it seems too watery.

Add (optional!) mozzarella and mix.

Pour mixture into crusts.

Bake at 350 for 45 minutes to 1 hour.  Pie is done when it is firm in the center.

Allow to cool for 10-15 minutes to set.


This recipe makes 2 pies

Comment #103: Reba  on  01/27  at  06:39 PM

Also, roast whole chicken is incredibly easy to make and you can get more than one meal out of it (even if you have two teenage boys, as I do).  To roast a chicken, pull out the giblets, set the chicken on a roasting rack if you have one.  If not, it will do fine resting on the bottom of a roaster.  Put a little bit of water in the bottom of the pan, to keep it from sticking.  This will also provide you with the basis for a nice stock or gravy.  Sprinkle salt, pepper and whatever herbs you like over the top of the bird.  I get lots of love when I use herbes de provence (which sounds way fancier than it is).  Roast until the skin is golden and the legs threaten to fall off the bird - usually a couple of hours.  It really is as easy as throwing some spices on top, sticking it in the oven and forgetting about it for awhile.

When dinner is over, you can strip whatever meat is left off the bird.  Even with ravenous hoards, there’s always a little left.  Set that aside.  Take the bones, the skin and whatever liquid is in the bottom of the roaster and throw the lot into a stock pot with an onion and some celery (both really cheap) and any old veggies that maybe need to be used pretty quick (not spoiled, but perhaps wilted - like broccoli, green beans, carrots, etc.).  Boil that for as long as you like.  I’ve been known to keep a stock going for a whole day on low.  Drain the liquid into another pot, throw out the stewed bones, etc. and you are left with a nice chicken stock that you can use to make whatever sort of soup you’d like.  You can either use the leftover chicken in your soup, or make yourself a nice chicken salad sandwich.  Or throw it into some pasta.

Comment #104: Reba  on  01/27  at  06:47 PM

+1 for Bittman.  Also, anything by Alton Brown.

***

Jesse: cut up some chorizo and toss it in with the beans.  Adds a little bulk, and you’re good to go as far as spices are concerned.

Comment #105: Thlayli  on  01/27  at  07:02 PM

Learn to love your local ethnic grocers. Big sacks of rice, big bags of dried beans, spices etc.

Think about common bases: for all the faffing, the biggest difference between a risotto, a paella and a pilaf is the seasoning. And really, honestly, start thinking in terms of planning for the week. Big weekend dish, leftovers can be put to use in different ways through the week. My parents did it, their parents did it. Once you have a sense of the basic building blocks, you can work with them.

FlipYrWhig: most of Steve Gilliard’s comments threads are still floating around, so if you can dig out the URL…

Comment #106: pseudonymous in nc  on  01/27  at  07:54 PM

Other staples with variants: the pork/bean soup that can be fejoida in Brazil, pozole in Mexico, etc. The greens / spuds soup that’s Caldo Verde in Portugal, leek and potato in Britain. Meat as seasoning if you eat meat, or not if you don’t.

Comment #107: pseudonymous in nc  on  01/27  at  07:57 PM

To echo others: Shop at ethnic grocery stores. You can sometimes find great ingredients (not just dried staples like rice, or spices, but meat and produce too) for shockingly cheap. (I am currently blessed to live a 5-minute bicycle ride from a 99 Ranch, and I’m in there at least once a week.)

Comment #108: Sarah  on  01/27  at  08:17 PM

I’ve quit defending Joy of Cooking—you either love it (whatever edition it is you swear by) or you don’t.  It is, however, a kitchen ur-text for me.  I have to kick some love to at least one cookbook that y’all probably wouldn’t think of as a source of quick, easy, tasty recipes that use fresh ingredients, and that’s Marcella Hazan’s “Essentials of Italian Cooking.”  Sure, there are some complicated thangs in there, but a surprising number of her recipes can be done simply, in one pan, using mostly pantry items.

As for beans—check the sodium levels in canned beans.  And then pry yourselves off the ceiling.  Luckily, it’s a lot easier to cook dry beans than you think.  Get a cheapo slow cooker (most of them are pretty cheap), and don’t bother with soaking.  Just dump the dry beans in the cooker in the morning (with the cooking liquid of your choice, of course), put it on low, and head off into your day.  That thing will not set your house on fire while you’re gone.  When you get back, those suckers are ready for whatever you want to do with them.  I do this for bean burritos and myriad other bean recipes.  As for blackeyed peas (which are frikkin wonderful), buy the frozen ones, or buy them fresh if you can find them in your produce section.  MUCH nicer than canned or dried, though if you can’t find frozen or fresh, see above re the canned v. dried option.

Thus ends my contribution to cheap eats.

Comment #109: nolo  on  01/27  at  09:09 PM

Sorry, WRONG.  Celery makes things taste like poo…  Like celery poo.  Ack, puke, gross!

Comment #110: Mireille  on  01/27  at  09:51 PM

Great Recipes guys!

Thought I would add a couple of things I basically live off of when I’m unemployed, that are cheap and quick. I’m single w/no kids so this can go a long way for me. As other people stated above, definitely take advantage of your local asian grocery for

Noodle Stir fry:
1Lb Firm Tofu
Noodles (can be any type, I typically mix it up depending on my mood I use Rice, Ramen w/o the seasoning, dried yakisoba noodles or premade packaged yakisoba noodles)
Carrot thin sliced at an angle
Celery thin sliced at an angle
Broccoli cut up into smaller peices
Oil (depends on the mood, either Olive, Peanut, or Canola)
whatever sauce you want (Peanut, Teriyaki, etc….)


Drain Tofu, and slice it into whatever shape you want (cubes, slices, thick julienne, etc…)
Heat oil in Skillet or wok
Throw in the tofu, and cook until it’s a little crispy on each side.

While cooking the tofu, soak your noodles in warm water, I usually just use the hottest tap water and drain them at least once to get the extra starch out.

Throw in your carrot and let it soften a little, then add the celery & broccoli.
mix it up ffor a couple of minutes.

drain the noodles, and throw on top of the tofu & veggies.
pour a liberal amount of sauce on top of the noodles then mix up.
cook until most of the juice has condensed.

Serve up, as a condiment I use sriracha for a little kick, and some toasted sesame seeds.
When I am cooking per meal I use half a glob of tofu.

Teriyaki Sauce:
1/3 cup brown sugar (or honey if you prefer)
12oz Kikkoman or Yamasa soy sauce
12oz water
3Tbsp corn starch
1-good thumb sized piece of ginger julienned, sliced, paste, etc.
3 good sized garlic buds chopped

in a sauce pan, combine 8oz soy/water, brown sugar, ginger, and garlic.
heat til it bubbles
in a container mix up the remaining 4oz soy/water, with the cornstarch and mix it in, stirring continuously, until you get the desired consistency.

You get a good thick teriyaki that lasts quite a while.

Lately I have been eating quite a bit of this too:

2 smaller potatoes quartered, sliced, and diced
1/2 green bell pepper cut into small chunks
1/2 small yellow onion chopped med to fine
2 eggs
smoked hot paprika
salt
pepper
oil

In a big skillet heat up the oil, and start frying the potatoes like hashbrowns, salt & pepper to taste
brown the potatoes, stir well so the potato does not turn into a big chunk (I use the skillet flip method, find that it works well for me)
add onion and allow it to brown
season with the paprika
throw in green pepper
mix the eggs in a bowl and pour on top of the mix of potato, onion, pepper
finish cooking

you can either serve like this, with tortillas, or rolled up like a burrito. I made this last night and used half of a diced red jalapeno.

Other serving suggestions, top with Tapatio, Louisiana hot sauce, or other hot sauce.

These are all pretty cheap to make.

I also have the fortune to live in a city with tons of food carts that are cheap and good too when I am burnt out on the above. Shout outs to Lindo Mihocan(sp?) on SE Division, best damn enchaldas and tortas for 4-4.50. I can live of of a torta from there for 2 days.

Comment #111: agit  on  01/27  at  09:52 PM

Where on SE Division ... My dad lives just off Powell and next time I’m out, I’ll be on expense account!

Comment #112: Ms Kate  on  01/27  at  10:25 PM

34th & division between Village merchants & Kappaya.
It’s a little taco truck that closes at 7 but they have great food.

Comment #113: agit  on  01/27  at  10:38 PM

Damn, I was just over there and hungry. Comment faster!

Comment #114: Auguste  on  01/27  at  11:23 PM

so…
i am allergic to pretty much anything aquatic (all fish and shellfish. even crawfish.) i am allergic to tomatoes unless they have been processed to removed skin and seeds.
and i canNOT stand the TEXTURE of onions, celery, or eggplant. really. the taste is fine, but i cannot CHEW them. i have this textile issue with lots of things, not food (my pain doctor for a while thought i might be OCD. until i told him what my bedroom looks like)

so most of what has been recipied i cannot eat. but i have a question - things that require sauteed onions, can i fry/sautee the onion and then take it back OUT? so that it’s just a flavor thing? cuz i d actually like the TASTE of onion, just can’t EAT the bloody things.

also. i really truly have NEVER had curry. my step-dad, in all other ways a rat-bastard, was a chef, but he mostly did southern/french or chinese. (i think he is the reason i hate cooking.)

but i am a BIG fan of frozen ravioli dinners. as in buy a $4 bag of pre-made ravioli or toratlini(sp?) or whatever, boil the ravioli, add sauce and veggies. my current fav this week is sausage ravioil w/ alfredo sauce, peas and some chicken. it takes like 10 minutes to do everything, once the water boils.

but my guy and i are really really weird. we, both of us, tend to only eat one meal a day. i (often!) go to Frisch’s Big Boy around lunch time and get a “to-go” salad, and munch on it off and on all day. just put in the fridge in between time. everyone thinks that this is VERY strange, but over the past year and a half, my meds have made me effectivly bulimic (i have to take phenegrin like 5 times a day in order to keep down ANYTHING), so i have to eat VERY small portions. one meal will stretch me over an entire day. i can go to this VERY lovely mexican resteraunt, pay 8 bucks for this HUGE combo meal with eight tons of beans and rice (and i’m hooked on tamales - my godmother is an immigrated-from-mexico-at-25 mexican, and used to hand make tamales twice a week…) and it’ll last me a couple of days. we tried actually cooking… and it ended up costing us more, because of our food habits. but i rarely eat actual fast food any more (by which i mean McDonalds or Wendy’s or Taco Bell or whatever). even when i did, it was generally wendys, and i would get chicken nuggets, fries and frosty. 3 bucks. really cheap.
i am disabled, and so get food stamps, and would really like to USE them (i mean, i use them, but its mostly cereal, milk, drinks sorta thing. and sometimes ground beef, and of course my ravioli). but every every EVERY thing that is homemade has that stupid textile issue - onions, or celery, or eggplant, or something. any ideas on how to avoid that?
(sorry for just running on and on. it’s A Thing)

Comment #115: denelian  on  01/28  at  12:40 AM

Denelian, you can add onion powder to stir fries, or onion flakes to soups or curries and get some of the flavor without the texture. It’s not the same, but it’s not bad.

Comment #116: Av0gadro  on  01/28  at  01:06 AM

waspie, if you add chilli to your olive oil and garlic pasta you have the great Italian dish of aglio, olio e pepperoncini. A perfect comfort food. The marriage of garlic, oil, chilli and parmesan is a wonder. That and a side salad and you have a lovely meal for very cheap.

Comment #117: JC  on  01/28  at  01:53 AM

denelian u can also use asafatida powder instead of onion/garlic. Some variants of the hindu religion who don’t use onion or garlic (because it ‘heats the blood’!!) use that instead. A little will last you a long time. It smells disgusting as a powder but the smell mellows when you cook it and it leaves a nice onion-ish flavour.

Or you could try mincing the onion in some sort of food processor (be warned your eyes will stream).

There are a fair few pasta sauce recipes that don’t have tomatoes or onions - you could try those. Boil up some pasta. Take fresh zucchini. Cut it into chunks and steam it in a microwave. Heat up some olive oil on the stove, add some chopped mushrooms and fry until they are nearly cooked. Add the zucchini chunks and toss around for a bit. Toss the zucchini and mushroom over the pasta and swirl around. Grate fresh parmesan over the top. Eccola as the Italians would say (only with a little marking over the a smile ). Basically any combo of vegies you like, tossed in olive oil (add garlic or chili if you like them) over pasta with parmesan will be a taste sensation!

Comment #118: JC  on  01/28  at  02:34 AM

And finally…

Chicken and Pumpkin (Squash) Curry

Onion (1 peeled and sliced into 8 large chunks)
Boned chicken thighs (about 1/2 a kilogram* or 4 medium sized ones, cut into 2 cm cubes)
Coriander powder (2 large heaped spoons)
Tumeric (1/2 a teaspoon)
Chilli powder (1/2 a teaspoon - or whatever your taste is)
Garam masala (2 heaped teaspoons)
Garlic (2 cloves minced)
Ginger (2 teaspoons minced)
Pumpkin (about 2 cups worth, peeled and cut into 2cm cubes)
Potatoes (3 large ones - cube into 2 cm cubes don’t bother peeling them if they are clean)
Tomatoes (4 medium ones - chop up into pieces)
1 cup of chicken stock (from cube is fine)
Fresh coriander (you guys call it Cilantro I think)

In a heavy bottomed large-ish saucepan fry up the onion with a little oil. When it’s translucent, add the chicken and turn down the heat a little. Brown the chicken so there’s no more pink showing. Add all the spices and stir around for about 30 secs to coat all the chicken and onion. Add all the vegies and the stock. Cover and turn down the heat. Leave for about 40 mins. Add the fresh coriander just before you serve (this is kind of optional if you don’t have fresh coriander). Serve with rice, feeds 4-5 people. Keeps nicely in the fridge for a couple of days. Can freeze it down too.  Greater than the sum of its parts.

Pumpkin sauce for pasta
Cook cubes of pumpkin and spinach in a little stock until pumpkin is soft. Put in food processor (or mouli machine) and process. Add about a cup of plain yoghurt. Pour over pasta. Grate some parmesan on top. Brilliant.

Roasted pumpkin is also great. Roast in chunks with lemon slices and garlic cloves (or ginger and honey - halve a pumpkin, scoop out the seeds and put minced ginger and a spoonful of honey and butter in the scooped out bit). I love pumpkin and use it at least once a week in cooking.

Another good cheap dish is risotto. Once you have the basic recipe down, you can add whatever you like to it. You can then take the left overs, roll it into small balls and bread them. Pan fry them and eat them with a plain tomato sauce over them.

*I don’t do imperial measurements.

Comment #119: JC  on  01/28  at  02:41 AM

I find I save a lot of money when I eat better, ie no junk food, and I lose weight.  When I was in my early 20’s I had a 6-month period of real poverty and actually lost a lot of weight while still eating well.  So IMHO the problem is not so much being poor as in not knowing how to cook cheap nutritious meals. 

A lot of the suggestions given have been great.  Here are some of mine.  Keep your rarely-used dried herbs in the freezer.  Get low-fat coconut milk and freeze it in ice-cube trays.  You don’t need to use a whole tin with the curry paste.  Add a little water to 2 cubes for each person.  A small amount of cornstarch added to the water gives a creamy texture. 

Dried red lentils are very quick to cook in the microwave.  Just make sure to rinse them well and put them in a large enough bowl with the water about half way up.  If you have an auto reheat button, press it twice and the lentils will be perfectly cooked.  Just add to a vegetable curry and serve with Basmati rice (cheap in Asian markets or Costco).  I like Pateks Madras curry paste with this and add tomato paste and half a banana for a little sweetness.  Delicious.  If your bananas are getting too ripe, peel them, cut them in half, wrap each half in plastic wrap and freeze.  They can then be used in any recipe.  Do NOT freeze them in their skins as they are just about impossible to peel after freezing.

Use meat in small amounts in stir fries.  Buy bulk vegetables at Costco.  I don’t know what I’d do without the big bags of broccoli and peppers!!

That’s it…....it’s bedtime now.

Comment #120: AlisonS  on  01/28  at  03:00 AM

I cook a lot and am pretty picky about food being high quality and healthy. I think it’s not too hard to do this on a budget esp. if you live in a city. I also have a bit of weird diet ( I mostly veg but no dairy and I eat fish) but I do seem to eat really well not that expensively.
I agree, that Asian and Indian groceries are great places to shop. I do a lot of my shopping here in San Francisco on Clemente Street at the various Asian groceries. I’ve learned how to make a pretty good shrimp version of pho and a pretty tasty Vietnamese noodle salad.
Farmers markets can also be secretly affordable if you poke around and look for deals. Plus they can also be a lot of fun.
I also make a lot of Italian, Indian, Chinese, Creole and French inspired dishes many of which can be done pretty cheaply.

Comment #121: AdamN  on  01/28  at  06:05 AM

Tip on spices: look for a health food store or vitamin shop that carries bulk herbs. You can get for $1 what it would cost you $4 or more for at the store—the only difference is you don’t get it in a little jar, but a bag. There is often more variety, too.

Comment #122: Samantha Vimes  on  01/28  at  07:26 AM

The freeze-in-ice-cube-tray method is also perfect for when you make a large batch of pesto (at the end of the summer when basil is cheap and abundant), then transfer the frozen cubes to a freezer bag and thaw them “as needed.” One cube is pretty much a perfect serving-size for pesto tortillini (denelian) and it takes up minimal freezer space for something you’ll eat all year long. Pesto and angel hair pasta is also good. Because you’ll yield so much, it’s best to get all top-quality ingredients: olive oil and a block of parm instead of the stuff in the green can.

Classic Pesto
4 cups fresh basil, leaves (3 large bunches)
1/2 cup olive oil
1/3 cup pine nuts
2 garlic cloves
1/4 cup parmesean cheese, freshly grated
1/4 cup pecorino sardo cheese, freshly grated
1 tsp kosher salt, (coarse)

Combine basil, oil, nuts, and garlic in blender. Blend until paste forms, stopping often to push down basil. Add both cheeses and salt; blend until smooth.

Comment #123: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/28  at  10:24 AM

BEST THREAD EVAH!

Comment #124: redwards  on  01/28  at  01:47 PM

Wow, somebody should do a cookbook.

Comment #125: Ginger Mayerson  on  01/28  at  05:37 PM

wow. all this time i thought pesto was a tomato based thing. not a single tomato or onion in it! i will try that.

i *DO* use onion powder, as a seasoning, but i have never used it to replace onion. i can try that. also that asafatida… where would i find that?

but thanx for the advice. i need a new food processor, ours broke. i have, in the past, used to make what is essentially onion PASTE to use in some things that require onions. apparantly that is the way to go, at least until i find this asafatida (i have never heard of this before. really.)

Comment #126: denelian  on  01/29  at  04:36 AM

asafatida is a very strong spice that you can purchase in an indian or pakistani supermaket. I would *heartily* suggest that you get a whiff of it before you buy it… it’s a little like cilantro in that some people find it very unappetizing. A pinch goes a long way.

Comment #127: Mighty Ponygirl  on  01/29  at  11:00 AM
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