It doesn’ t matter what a woman is nominated for or where she should serve - she fails the hawtness test she can’t bee seen and is a failure as a woman and should just go disappear.

Never mind that blacks in particular have an upward-shifted BMI to health effect curve that is very well known in health circles - insofar as BMI is worth shit on an individual basis, it does work for large populations and this shift is very real.

Fox brings on the owner of a strip club to (ahem) weigh in on the qualifications of the nominee for surgeon general?

Paddy Chaevsky was an optimist.

Chayefsky.

Sorry.

If I were an optimist, I’d say that, between the host’s shaming of the guest and the guest’s unbelievable t-shirt, many Fox viewers might take away a better message than not from that little sideshow.

If I were an optimist.

He actually owns a gym in the Denver area, and I’ve been treated to more than a few of his local commercials.  They’re basically organized around the premise that fat women will never find a husband, and so he’s going to yell at you a lot until you get skinny and get married, or something.

“Owns a gym”?

From TPM:
The Fox guest is quite a character. His name is Michael Karolchyk, and he runs an outfit in Denver called the Anti-Gym, a fitness club with an emphasis on getting clients in shape for sex: “With live DJs, cage dancers, and our elite co-ed Ravish Room, Anti-Gym boasts the hottest facilities and clientele in Denver.”

I just wasted a few minutes and read the article about Karolchyk linked above…wow.  The hatred, it burns.  He, and people like him, are exactly why I’ll never be able to call myself an optimist when it comes to human beings and human nature.

Wikipedia says Dr. Benjamin is 52. (Damn, she looks good.  I was guessing 40-something, tops.)  It’s not uncalled for for people at that age to be a little heavy.  It’s a pretty natural part of aging.  Most people have to practically kill themselves not to gain weight as they get older.

In short:  shut up, Fox.

Wow, I was under the impression it was just a “negative reinforcement” style gym.  I stand corrected, and a bit weirded out that Fox brought this guy on the air.

Great, we’re taking cabinet nominations advice from a man who puts fake tan on his balls. Another 30 seconds on air and he would’ve disqualified her for having an “insufficiently waxed beav.”

“I certainly don’t see Dr. Benjamin, who, by any stretch of the imagination, is qualified to serve, is worthy of this sort of disgusting slam.”

Honestly, even if she were a morbidly-obese chainsmoker who made a habit of shooting transfat straight into her eyeballs, she’s not being nominated for “Healthiest Person in America.” And the Surgeon General isn’t some weird pomo-ritualistic position wherein the person who accepts the title goes forth and does battle with the forces of disease so that the nation can avoid dying of a heart attack or stroking out for the next year. 

There’s something to be said for avoiding the “do as I say, not as I do” tarnish, but there’s a hell of a lot more to be said for actually getting someone who unites the necessary administrative, professional, ethical, and political qualities required to do a job like this on a cabinet level.  If we start ruling out everyone who has those qualifications but has the temerity to be walking around as the survivor of a heart attack or cancer or with a chronic ailment (asthmatics and diabetics need not apply) or without looking like an airbrushed photo of a fitness model, we’re going to run out of actual experts pretty quick.

Ew, OK, I immediately regret using the word “beav”, even in an imaginary douchebag-quote. I blame the ‘blaspheme’ button.

Yeah, because a misgynistic doucheclam who owns a strip-o-gym is qualified to talk about the potential Surgeon General…

:|

In what fucking world?

President Obama is denying American men their right to a hawt Surgeon General.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!

Great, we’re taking cabinet nominations advice from a man who puts fake tan on his balls.

tb FTW!

“The ladies are going to be upset about this. . .”

“If you’re fifty pounds overweight, or a hundred pounds for a guy. . .”

I mean, what does it take for someone to call this dude out on his misogyny? 

Because only women are sensitive about their weight, and men can get away with being fat.

*burns*

She is NOT fat!

Waitaminit!  Wasn’t Limbaugh just complaining recently that athletic people are the truly unhealthy ones, because of all the sports injuries?  How dare these people disagree with their leader?

Dude, Fox News put a schmuck on to piss people off.  He’s a schmuck.  He’s obviously a schmuck.  Only a schmuck would care about this.  It’s time to not care.

Holy crap that man’s a giant asshole.  Giant.  Huge freaking asshole.

And even is she was fat (which I don’t see, but whatever), who cares so long as she’s healthy and can do the job she’s being considered for?

And, for the record, I work out (treadmill, weights, and yoga) 4-5 days a week and eat sensibly, and I’m at least 40 lbs overweight according to those BMI charts.  And I will never, ever be thinner than I am now, short of surgery, due to the fact that I’ve had two kids, genetics (every woman in my family who has reproduced is, at minimum, a bit chubby), and I refuse to starve myself just so I can fit into my pre-baby jeans.  And I’m in really good physical condition, with low blood pressure, low cholesterol, no major risk factors for anything, etc., much better than my skinny but physically not terribly fit and high cholesterol and blood pressure having husband.

And the Surgeon General isn’t some weird pomo-ritualistic position wherein the person who accepts the title goes forth and does battle with the forces of disease so that the nation can avoid dying of a heart attack or stroking out for the next year.

No, but it totally should be.

ks, who you going to believe knows what is what and how it is?  A barbie doll spokesmodel, or a 52 year old woman who has spent her life caring for others? 

Uh huh.

Isn’t this the same “faux” news who decries the “celebrity” status of Obama and whines that Democrats aren’t like Real Americans?  Dr. Benjamin sure as hell looks a hella lot more like a “real American” than Palin does!

She fluctuates between being fat and being average; however, that is irrelevent.

Here are some pics of her in her the different phases:

fat: http://www.phikappaphi.org/ObjectAssets/FileLibrary/1/3/reginabenjamin.jpg

great: http://www.raconline.org/newsletter/web/images/fall07_atc1.jpg

Ew, OK, I immediately regret using the word “beav”, even in an imaginary douchebag-quote. I blame the ‘blaspheme’ button.

FWIW, I thought it was funny; almost as funny as the idea that the guy puts fake tan on his balls.

And here I thought according to conservative punditry it was liberals who had the whole body fascism thing, with their health food stores and their insistence that eating anything but truckloads of red meat 24/7 (like REAL AMERICANS) was a bad idea?

Incidently, this is the first guy I’ve ever seen who actually *wears* a “No Chubby” t-shirt, and is not just being ironic or a cartoon character in a comedy show that everyone knows represents the worst choad in the universe. I didn’t even think these shirts actually existed, as the only time I ever heard of those was when people said things like “This guy is such a douche, I bet he has a ‘No Chubby’ t-shirt”.

Mind. Blown.

They are gunning for her because she is black and a woman, period. And she administers to the poor and underserved and, gasp, minorities (aka “those people”). And she is an appointee by an Islamofascistsocialistforeignbornblackbrownarabafricanmuslimacorngayishfemifem president.  That counts as three strikes to these ignorant math-challenged asswipes. Her weight is secondary to them.

“I didn’t even think these shirts actually existed”

They exist so that men like him might wear them, that the rest of us may be spared the trouble of discovering their assholery for ourselves.  Some species have aposematism.  We have t-shirts.

Let’s see.  Didn’t I read that Dr Benjamin was involved with doctoring to the rural poor.  Actually going above and beyond the weekly time requirement of one’s job must be somewhat time-consuming and bad eating habit inducing.

Strikes me that Karolfuck would be the kind of asswipe who’d criticize a Mother Teresa for not taking the time to get her eyebrows waxed while ministering to the poor of Calcutta.

Strikes me next that the response to that headline should be “Who gives a fuck what Karolfuck says?” about anything.  Hat tip to the reporter for exposing the psychotic liar (Steroid abuse anyone, classic case of roid rage?  Frustrated with a small penis perhaps? Can Brown revoke that ring?)

Noting use of the word strikes at least twice, it strikes me that that’s what I’d like to do to Karolfuck and it wouldn’t be with a cupcake, either.  Unless anyone’s got a recipe for a cast iron one.

Good point: Why is this man’s opinion about the Surgeon General appointee important anyway?

Incidently, this is the first guy I’ve ever seen who actually *wears* a “No Chubby” t-shirt,

I’ll bet you $10 that he’d be the first one to jump into bed if an overweight woman hit on him.

Even sicker, establishment asswipes like the (female but incredibly patriarchy-identified) former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine have signed on to this crap. And if she were buff they’d all be complaining that she spent too much time obsessing about her body and wasn’t qualified to empathise with people who didn’t or couldn’t do the same.

(Which also brings us to: if you are treating poor patients in the back of Lower Nowhere and running a serious political career in local and national medical societies, you had better be a rich white guy with a stay-at-home childless spouse if you’re going to have time to eat right and exercise.)

Good point: Why is this man’s opinion about the Surgeon General appointee important anyway?

I’m guessing that FAUX had to find someone, somewhere, somehow, to say something bad about an Obama appointee, and nobody with any actual expertise was willing to step forward.

Ergo Mr. Random Rethug Douchebag.

Good point: Why is this man’s opinion about the Surgeon General appointee important anyway?

Because having a gym owner wearing a “No Chubbies” t-shirt pontificate on the qualifications of a Surgeon General nominee pisses off liberals.

Seriously.  That’s the only reason.

Dude, Fox News put a schmuck on to piss people off.  He’s a schmuck.  He’s obviously a schmuck.  Only a schmuck would care about this.  It’s time to not care.

This.

I think this is a case of Fox just feeling that they have to come up with some kind of negative for a Dem nominee and that fact that she’s eminently qualified for the post of SG means this toolbox is all they’ve got. it has nothing to do with misogyny or race. Ask Bill Richardson, Al Gore, or Michael Moore. It’s just an easy way to go through the motions.

It’s like when I have to say “Yankees suck” any time New York baseball comes up. My heart’s not in it, I don’t even believe it or particularly care, but my tribal allegiance (Go O’s!) demands it.

Good point: Why is this man’s opinion about the Surgeon General appointee important anyway?

It isn’t. He’s a douchebag some producer at Fox decided to unchain and put on the air for ratings.

Now he can shut the fuck up, go back to rubbing orange shit all over his nuts, and leave any and all talk of politics to the grown-ups.

“If she’s 50 Lbs overweight I’m a… uh.. a different planet.”

I was so hoping he’d go there.

When I was a kid a “chubby” was slang for an erection. No chubbies? They’ve got medicine for that now I hear.

I’ll bet you $10 that he’d be the first one to jump into bed if an overweight woman hit on him.

No way. You’re on.

Some random ‘No Chubby’ guy definitly would if he could guarantee his friends never found out (and he’d kick her out the next day without even a goodbye or a phone number), but this guy is a semi-celebrity and he’s probably terrified that someone will see him and spill it to the tabloids. In fact, if he was an actual celebrity he might just say ‘Screw it’, but since he’s, like, Z-list or something, it means he is probably even more self-conscious about keeping his image.

establishment asswipes like the (female but incredibly patriarchy-identified) former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine have signed on to this crap.

Bitch.  Just pure asswipe bitch.  On a personal as well as a professional level - she’s an incompetent dipshit who spends her time fucking over her workers’ lives.

All I’m going to say ... all that I have to.  Oh well, more really good publications folk for us!

No chubby, eh?  Well, isn’t that a typical side effect of too many anabolic androgenic steroids?

this guy is a semi-celebrity and he’s probably terrified that someone will see him and spill it to the tabloids

Which is how you just know he’s spending his free time hiring “large n lovely” hookers from the back pages of the free newspaper.

Which is how you just know he’s spending his free time hiring “large n lovely” hookers from the back pages of the free newspaper.

Exaclty.  All these wingnuts protest the loudest about the things they like the most, but are also most embarrassed about.  It’s no different than homophobic men who are caught doing things with other men in public bathrooms.  The louder they complain about something, the more they secretly love it.

This guy is total TV News comic relief. Fox trots him out to do things like attack Santa while the hosts insists he disagrees in the chummiest way possible. Usually Cavuto. I did some research for a post last night…

http://red3.blogspot.com/2009/07/fat-hate-on-fox-news.html

Some Denver outlets have been tracking his clowning for sometime. His “gym” was also shut down earlier this year because he declined to pay his payroll taxes. He then left sensitive customer information lying in a dumpster complete with health information and employee assessments like “lazy fatty”. He know seems to be trying to position himself for a reality TV gig and will take all the exposure Fox will give him.

I’d note that other mainstream media outlets are similarly guilty of trotting out fat bigots as comic relief, so this isn’t a Fox exclusive condition, though I think Fox has frequently had this same clown on to talk politics like this, and that does strike me as unusual. Fat bashing is nothing new, but employing a fat hating clown to advance a political message is perhaps a little less common. To me, this clown and others like him are meaningless compared to those who keep pining a microphone on him.

Get a picture of President Taft at his heaviest and post it on every birther blog.  Republican, through and through.  I think that he topped out at 375 pounds and went on to serve on the Supreme Court.

Frustrated with a small penis perhaps?

I figured that’s what his “No Chubby” t-shirt was referencing.

This is a quote from the abc “news” website:
“Obama’s pick for the next surgeon general, was hailed as a MacArthur Grant genius who had championed the poor at a medical clinic she set up in Katrina-ravaged Alabama.”
This should be all that anyone is reporting about her.  Of course, that quote comes from a story with a headline about how she is getting criticism for being “overweight.”  I really hate people.

I didn’t even think these shirts actually existed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposematism

She’s carrying wide boxes and wearing a lab coat; both things tend to make a person look bigger than they are. And STILL she doesn’t look fat.

” These idiots are in a tizzy because she is a woman, black, appointed by a black Democratic President and probably smarter than every repooblican mouth-breather who watches Faux News.”

I have to laugh when I read stuff like this. Why are liberals so obsessed with race? If Obama had the ideals of Reagan or early Goldwater I would have voted for him twice! I hope the Black chamber of Commerce takes donations because I loved seeing a classic lib “Boxer” get dressed down by a black man who rises above race. She was basically saying “gee every other black man agrees with this plan so why dont you?” Shameful. Oh and by the way, Salon also had a piece on her being “overweight”, not exactly in the “fox” category huh.  Personally I thought the whole thing was pretty stupid. She actually seems like a genuine decent person who puts her money where her mouth is in helping people (unlike most libs who give zero to charity but love to give my money away)

“If Obama had the ideals of Reagan or early Goldwater I would have voted for him twice!”

Oh really?

My guess is if he was a Black Republican he’d never get close enough to the nom in the Republican Party to ever be in danger of having you or any other Republican vote for him for POTUS.

Let’s face it:  Not all Republicans are racists.  But almost all racists are Republicans (even if some of them pretend to be “Libertarians”).  That’s the god’s honest truth, and if you stopped drinking the Koolaid for a minute to so and looked around you, you’d see it too…

I have to laugh when I read stuff like this. Why are liberals so obsessed with race?

I love how the guy whose spokesperson appears on TV in a “No Chubbies” t-shirt is accusing us of being too obsessed with appearance.

“Not all Republicans are racists.  But almost all racists are Republicans (even if some of them pretend to be “Libertarians”“

I guess you could also say that not all Democrats are Marxist/Socialists, but all marxists/Socialists are Democrats.  Anyone read that great piece by Sam Webb? http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/1054/1/27/

The thing I like least about Libs is their complete dishonesty about America. At least admit that everything that Libs do is opposite to what this country was founded on. You may believe that the counrty SHOULD be a socialist country but that was CLEARLY not what the founders wanted.

and im clearly a 10/10 P

If Obama had the ideals of Reagan or early Goldwater I would have voted for him twice!

Obama has a lot more in common with Goldwater than McCain does.  The Goldwater wing of the Republican party is deader than dead.

The thing I like least about Libs is their complete dishonesty about America. At least admit that everything that Libs do is opposite to what this country was founded on.
Casp on 07/22 at 09:06 PM

This country was also founded by the equine riding set - so what’s your Republican ass’s name?

“We” tend to make things about race when we notice people of certain races don’t get treated as well as people of other certain races.

Ignoring the prejudice of other people isn’t a virtue.

And our founding fathers also owned slaves, thought only property-owning men should vote, and believed that the individual states (not the nation, mind you) should be permitted to establish a state church.  Wanna defend that too?

I have to admit that when I first saw pics of the SG nominee that I jumped to conclusions about her physical appearance. I thought she had a big head.

From what I have read, she sounds qualified to be Surgeon General, but I don’t think she has what it takes to wear small hats. Of course, as the owner of a size 7 3/4 noggin myself, I may be prejudiced.

So the National Chair of the American Communist Party writes a piece praising Obama, ergo all Democrats are Communists?  By that logic I can just as easily say that every Republican keeps a copy of The Turner Diaries next to the family Bible.

This country was founded on Enlightenment principles of secular governance, a radically liberal concept in an age when the Divine Right of Kings was the defining principle.  Why don’t you try this crazy experiment:  Turn off Rush Limbaugh, and go read the Federalist Papers.  Find out for yourself what this country’s founding principles are.

I guess you could also say that not all Democrats are Marxist/Socialists, but all marxists/Socialists are Democrats.

You could, but you’d sound like a poorly educated moron.

If there is a merciful God in heaven, nobody will ask MeMe Roth what she thinks about this.

Honestly, even if she were a morbidly-obese chainsmoker who made a habit of shooting transfat straight into her eyeballs, she’s not being nominated for “Healthiest Person in America.” And the Surgeon General isn’t some weird pomo-ritualistic position wherein the person who accepts the title goes forth and does battle with the forces of disease so that the nation can avoid dying of a heart attack or stroking out for the next year. 

Well, it seems reasonable to get rid of a Suregon General who’s overweight.  Just like they got rid of Elders for supporting masturbation.

Because Americans, as a whole, are very rarely overweight and hardly ever masturbate.

Come to think of it, there seems to be something else similiar between Elders and Benjamin.  Can’t quite figure it out…

Or - what Kathy said.

Casp, you idiot, we have Socialist and Communist Parties, as well as a Green Party.  Guess where the actual socialists and communists go?

God I hate willfully stupid people.  Go beat a puppy or something.

Even sicker, establishment asswipes like the (female but incredibly patriarchy-identified) former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine have signed on to this crap.

Oooh! Which one? Because I think I know who you’re talking about, and if I"m right, I’ve got chapter and verse on her whoralicious hacktacularness!

No, really. I used to work in the medical literature community, and it’s real fucking small.

“Good point: Why is this man’s opinion about the Surgeon General appointee important anyway?”

There’s more to it. I don’t know whether it is a Grand Plot by Fox or just a fact of life, but by having a celebrity asshole on to talk about Benjamin and focusing on her weight, they are effectively discussing the office of Surgeon General as a spokesmodel position. Really, they wouldn’t be discussing her particularly differently if she was up for a position on The View.

Which, really, is how they ran Palin for President. (I know, but let’s not kid ourselves, they were putting up with the wrinkly guy as a necessary evil.) And Bush and his pals. They report on national news as indistinguishable from Hollywood news. And in the same terms.

If they had brought in any random doctor, not to mention someone like the director of the Mayo Clinic or the CDC or something, they would have put themselves in the position of discussing substance, and substance is NOT their strong point, nor, apparently, the interest of their viewers. “Is she too fat?” is something they can address while their attention span is in its window.

President Obama is denying American men their right to a hawt Surgeon General.  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
BadKitty on 07/22 at 09:03 AM

No he is not!

She is a very attractive person, and well within a normal healthy-looking weight range.  ...
happyfungirl on 07/22 at 11:52 AM

This is all I’m saying. Well, with emphasis on “attractive” and “well.”

Americans, as a whole, are very rarely overweight and hardly ever masturbate

If this line doesn’t appear in a Broadway musical by the end of the year, it’s a wasted opportunity.

It’s like when I have to say “Yankees suck” any time New York baseball comes up. My heart’s not in it, I don’t even believe it or particularly care, but my tribal allegiance (Go O’s!) demands it.

It’s also a tribute to Steve Gilliard’s memory.  Yankees suck!  Say it often.

At this point, is there any reason to care what anyone on Fox News says?  Anyone at all?  Isn’t it just blatantly clear by now what a sewer it is?

And here I thought according to conservative punditry it was liberals who had the whole body fascism thing,

Yeah, shouldn’t her weight comfort anyone who lives in fear of a liberal Weight Watchers Program of Doom?

I got the impression that Cavuto was barely holding back a “What the fuck is wrong with you?” That’s what I said when I watched Biff Slapchest go on about how she’s too fat. While yes, that position, along with every other position like hers, do carry some symbolism and the people do set an example, I still think her mental health is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than her physical health. Besides, she looked good to me.

It’s sad Fox had to bring on Harry Chestplanks as a guest and expose Americans to his glaring dipshittisism. I hope Rock Hardbody gets really fat as he ages, and has to endure his same assholery from others.

On a side note, does anyone else think C. Everett Koop looks kinda like a bird?