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So it’s come to this

Choads

A story about a woman who refused to give candy to kids whose parents are voting for Obama.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 08:47 PM • (74) Comments

Wasn’t that liddy dole?

Comment #1: ice weasel  on  11/01  at  09:01 PM

What a mean person.  Whatever your political opinion there’s no excuse to be so mean to little kids.  It doesn’t really surprise me that some McCain supporters are so evil anymore.  I’ve seen them in line at his and Palin’s rallies.

Comment #2: G Porgy  on  11/01  at  09:09 PM

Seriously that has got to be the most ridiculous shit that I have come across in a long time.  How can you do that to a child. Halloween is supposed to be a fun holiday not a day to push political affiliations down the throat of the young. 
My three year old is dressed in his costume even as I write this because he loved it so much. He was the cutest little bear for Halloween, and I would have lost my mind if someone had thought that it was okay to ruin his holiday.

Comment #3: Renee  on  11/01  at  09:11 PM

I hope people egging her house wasn’t the worst thing she put up with last night.  Denying candy to kids because of your self-righeous political hate?  Fucking monster.  That’s the kind of thing we need to teach children to be afraid of - narrow-mindedness and bigotry.

Comment #4: Damian  on  11/01  at  09:15 PM

Uh-oh.  From what I’ve heard through the electronic grapevine, those fine nameless fellas from /b/ have her info.

AND THEY AIN’T HAPPY.

Comment #5: Damian  on  11/01  at  09:17 PM

Passing out candy for free is SOCIALIST!

These children should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and WORK for candy, damnit!

Comment #6: Ben D.  on  11/01  at  09:26 PM

Sure, that’s how you make a lasting impression on kids so that they’ll think fondly of Republicans as they grow up. Related question: Do kids trick-or-treat in Alaska or is it too cold?

Comment #7: Sara Pulis  on  11/01  at  09:37 PM

Actually, I don’t think I would let my kid eat any candy this creep gave out anyway - probably poisoned.

Comment #8: CParis  on  11/01  at  10:07 PM

Wow.  She’s so brave.  Taking on children like that.  Creepy person.

Comment #9: Mold  on  11/01  at  10:10 PM

This is just more proof that the GOP is the party of nasty bullies.  Seriously—what kind of asshole refuses candy to a kid because of the political views of the kid’s parents?  What is she thinking?  “Oh, I’m going to refuse candy to Bobby, the cute little pirate, because Bobby’s mom is voting for Obama!  I want to make him cry and ruin his Halloween.  Take THAT, Democrats!”

Comment #10: Cat Ion  on  11/01  at  10:22 PM

Sure, that’s how you make a lasting impression on kids so that they’ll think fondly of Republicans as they grow up.

Exactly!

Comment #11: killjoy  on  11/01  at  10:22 PM

Now that I think about it, hating the children of Democrats is really par for the course in Wingnuttia.  I’m reminded of John Derbyshire’s take-down of Chelsea Clinton.

Yes, he hated Chelsea Clinton because she is a Clinton.  She had the taint, you see.

So, this woman’s actions is really not all that unprecedented.

Comment #12: Cat Ion  on  11/01  at  10:32 PM

What’s so wrong with what she did?  I was planning to do exactly the same thing but no trick or treaters showed up at the door of my remote basement lair…

Comment #13: Rugged in Montana  on  11/01  at  10:56 PM

I know that last night, I either gave candy to the kids who first vandalized and then stole my Obama sign, or it was their parents.  I didn’t give a shite.  It was Halloween.

And the teeny Spiderman kid who turned to his mother and yelled, “Yay!” after I gave him candy was adorable.

Comment #14: BetsyTX  on  11/01  at  10:58 PM

Notice that the story was reported on FOX, so you can’t accuse that network of only reporting news favorable to McCain and the Republicans (and yes, I agree that the woman was a real Grinch).

Comment #15: Dreidel  on  11/01  at  11:01 PM

Notice that the story was reported on FOX, so you can’t accuse that network of only reporting news favorable to McCain and the Republicans

No, it was reported on a local FOX affiliate, which is a far cry from being reported on FOX itself.

Comment #16: Dweeze  on  11/01  at  11:06 PM

Yes, they trick-or-treat in Alaska. But when I lived there and we did it, it snowed that night.

My favorite part is the, “Oh well,” she gives them.  Conservative thought in a nutshell.  Crying children because I denied them candy?  Oh well.  Their parents should have picked the right candidate.  Not my fault.  Certainly nothing to do with ME.

Comment #17: PerfectBlue  on  11/01  at  11:32 PM

Dreidel:

Notice that the story was reported on FOX, so you can’t accuse that network of only reporting news favorable to McCain and the Republicans

Not that I wouldn’t put it past FOX to demand that its local affiliates broadcast only what Rupert Murdoch approves, but um, yeah. Network television doesn’t work that way.

Comment #18: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  11/01  at  11:34 PM

Heck, i took down my Obama signs last night, in part to stop them from being stolen, but also because trick-or-treat is a kid’s funtime and and I don’t think politics should intrude.  I have no idea who the parents of the kids who came to our door will vote for.  I just hope the kids had fun.

And first thing this am, the Obama signs went back up.

This woman is further proof that while not all Republican are assholes, almost all assholes are Republican!  She even had that tight-assed, thin-lipped look you see on jerks.

(OT, i was amused that the “peace sign” the guy in the story drew on his homemade sign was really a Mercedes logo!)

Comment #19: woodrowfan  on  11/01  at  11:34 PM

“I was planning to do exactly the same thing but no trick or treaters showed up at the door of my remote basement lair… “

RiM, your mom probably turned them away and you didn’t realize it…

...either that or your dwelling is on the list of creepy neighborhood houses parents won’t let their kids go near…

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Comment #21: paul  on  11/02  at  12:06 AM

“I know that last night, I either gave candy to the kids who first vandalized and then stole my Obama sign, or it was their parents.  I didn’t give a shite.  It was Halloween.”

Indeed. Although, at least the little biotches who knocked down our Obama sign on Mischief Night knocked down the McCain sign down the block too, equal opportunity style.  ( I don’t think we gave them candy, but only because we got 4 trick or treaters the entire night.)

She’s getting egged, no question; it looks like she only gave the McCain kiddies one paltry M&Ms;packet and a big old flyer. I’m so glad they gave that woman’s name on the air, too. See if anyone talks to her next time she’s at the supermarket.

Random thought: Are fundies against Halloween because it’s a pagan holiday? Because I think Jesus would be down with trick or treating. “Suffer unto me the little children”, “love thy neighbor”, all that.

Comment #22: ecm  on  11/02  at  12:19 AM

I’m expecting, at some point, for some doctor to refuse treatment to someone because they didn’t support St. McCain.

Comment #23: Scott  on  11/02  at  12:22 AM

If I had been escorting a child around Gross Pointe that night, I would have said “Thank You.  That’s one less piece of candy I KNOW we would have to X-Ray.”

Comment #24: SLP  on  11/02  at  12:51 AM

Grosse Pointe Farms? Color me completely unsurprised.  It’s one of those uppy suburbs where white people move to so they can be close enough to Detroit to sneer at the darkies.

Comment #25: mythago  on  11/02  at  12:54 AM

What a bitter tight-assed freak of artificial plastic. 

That’s right up there with the people who used to put their porch light on, only to come to the door and scream at all the kids that Haloween was WICKED AND EVIL and how DARE they come to the door and disturb her evening.  Never mind that she would have her gate open and the light on EVERY FUCKING YEAR.

Trailer courts being rough places, it wasn’t eggs that hit her windows at 1am.

Comment #26: Ms Kate  on  11/02  at  01:33 AM

I would have steered clear of that house even – no, especially – if I were a McCain supporter:  Anyone who pulls a stunt like that – and especially someone who thinks such unashamed stupidity will help her chosen candidate in the polls – has more than a few screws loose.  God only knows what she did to the candy.

Comment #27: The Devil's Advocate  on  11/02  at  01:55 AM

So it’s come to this -

you actually put up a post about such triviality, and as a bonus you get comments like this -

“He was the cutest little bear for Halloween, and I would have lost my mind if someone had thought that it was okay to ruin his holiday.

I hope people egging her house wasn’t the worst thing she put up with last night.  Denying candy to kids because of your self-righeous political hate?  Fucking monster.  That’s the kind of thing we need to teach children to be afraid of - narrow-mindedness and bigotry.

Uh-oh.  From what I’ve heard through the electronic grapevine, those fine nameless fellas from /b/ have her info.

AND THEY AIN’T HAPPY. “


FFS.

Comment #28: Jan Brady  on  11/02  at  02:13 AM

Random thought: Are fundies against Halloween because it’s a pagan holiday? Because I think Jesus would be down with trick or treating. “Suffer unto me the little children”, “love thy neighbor”, all that.

In general, the more evangelical your denomination is, the more likely you are to shun the ways of the world.

The more mainstream churches will offer an alternative “Hallulujah Party” where you dress as your favorite Bible character (only the good ones, obviously, as scary/evil themes are not permitted) and go to a church party that usually involves a potluck of some sort. The more “fundie” churches won’t even do a Christian-themed party. Some churches will also capitalize on the haunted houses of Halloween by doing a Trip To Hell or Hell House “passion play” creepy weird thing.

Comment #29: brista  on  11/02  at  02:26 AM

Someone should write an opera about this. Sing the whole news cast verbatim.

Comment #30: dooflow  on  11/02  at  02:26 AM

..either that or your dwelling is on the list of creepy neighborhood houses parents won’t let their kids go near…

Well, I do patrol the perimeters of my yard with a fully erect M1A1 Battle Rifle, a combat pack and a helmet.  Tends to cause most folks to keep their distance, for some reason…I always wave to everyone that goes by though…

Comment #31: Rugged in Montana  on  11/02  at  02:31 AM

The woman is crazy and mean, no question about that, but for heaven’s sake, the TV station and the protesting parents cranked it up way higher than it needed to be and didn’t cast themselves in a good light.  People have the right to do what they want, she had the right to deny children candy for any idiotic reason she wanted to, provided she didn’t say anything mean (which she might have, I didn’t watch the clip all the way through.)  My wife and I don’t participate in Halloween because we’re lazy; we don’t like to be constantly getting up, and our neighborhood has a custom where if you don’t turn on your porch light people don’t come.  That being said, if someone had shown up I would have come across with something.  Are we to be subjected to opprobrium?

If she didn’t come across with the goods for Obama supporters, the correct response is to just roll your eyes, mutter under your breath “what a loony” and GO TO THE NEXT HOUSE.  So you don’t get candy from ONE HOUSE, so what?  Everybody comes home with a big bucket of candy, way too much to actually eat.  How does not getting candy from one crazy woman ruin your holiday?  And when you think about it, doesn’t it make the holiday better?  It makes it memorable.  Every Halloween everybody does the exact same thing they do every year, and the same thing everybody does all over the country.  These kids, when they get older, will have a story to tell.

I don’t have any sympathy for the woman, but the parents came across to me as crybabies.

Comment #32: Mike Toreno  on  11/02  at  02:48 AM

she only gave the McCain kiddies one paltry M&Ms;packet

Peanut M&Ms;too, blech.  Third worst trick-or-treat item after Sweet Tarts and raisins.

Comment #33: keshmeshi  on  11/02  at  02:50 AM

Oh yeah, I just remembered, that stupid sign of hers was really mean and nasty and gives me more sympathy for people objecting.  You don’t have a right to the candy, that’s a gift given out of generosity, not something you’re entitled to, but you do have a right not to be called ugly names.

Comment #34: Mike Toreno  on  11/02  at  02:51 AM

keshmeshi, that’s just your personal taste, I think I like the peanut ones better.  And the worst trick or treat item is Circus Peanuts.

Comment #35: Mike Toreno  on  11/02  at  02:52 AM

Hey, I prefer peanut M&Ms;!  At least I’m getting a little vegetable protein.

Comment #36: Eric, Rejector of Memez  on  11/02  at  03:23 AM

No one trick or treats at my apartments, so I spent the night at my gf’s house in the outer burbs. She has big Obama signs and we gave out generous amounts of candy. Fairly warm night, jeans and t-shirt weather. Gf had a lot of candy and I brought more to make sure we made a good impression. Still had plenty of good stuff to go around when the teens with pillowcases came around.

Usual custom is to sit outside at night rather than to do the doorbell thing. It’s usually fairly warm.

Comment #37: Bacopa  on  11/02  at  03:29 AM

How does not getting candy from one crazy woman ruin your holiday?  And when you think about it, doesn’t it make the holiday better?  It makes it memorable.

That’s what I’d think if it happened to me now.  If I were four, I probably wouldn’t see it that way.  And trick-or-treating IS for kids that age, so this “that’s how the world works” stuff isn’t really relevant.  Being mean to little kids—for things that really have nothing to do with them, to boot—is bad behaviour.

In every neighbourhood I’ve lived in, if you don’t have a jack-o-lantern out, kids don’t come to your door.  Not participating is very different from advertising that you have candy to give out but some of the kids can’t have any because you don’t like them.

Comment #38: killjoy  on  11/02  at  04:09 AM

I don’t have any sympathy for the woman, but the parents came across to me as crybabies.

Well, certainly - she’s entitled to give or withhold candy at her pleasure, but her douchebaggery is newsworthy: It’s not even remotely clear what she’d hoped to accomplish there: It certainly doesn’t help the candidate she’s chosen to support, and nor will it change the minds of Dem voters.

She seems to have done this with the sole intention of irking her neighbors and upsetting their children.

I mean wow, what a trooper. She really gave hard for the cause, gypping toddlers and pissing off both Obama and McCain supporters with an insulting sign.

Next year, I think she should “go full-retard” – my apologies, in advance, to any developmentally disabled people who’re offended at being lumped in with that woman –  and put up a sign that reads, simply, “NO NYGGERS!” 

That will get her the national attention she so clearly wants – her 15 minutes of fame for being a tight-lipped, tight-fisted, jingo-barfing asstriscuit.

Comment #39: The Devil's Advocate  on  11/02  at  04:26 AM

So it’s come to this -
you actually put up a post about such triviality, and as a bonus you get comments like this…

Jan Brady seems really upset that someone taped her eyelids open and held her head in front of this post…and all the comments. Jan Brady seems a little bitter. Of course Brady Bunch fans know I’m being redundant there.

As for that no-candy lady, she seems like a real Jan Brady to me.

(Yea! for triviality. It makes life fun and keeps the Jan Bradys at bay.)

Comment #40: seventwentyfour  on  11/02  at  05:02 AM

So she put up a sign in her yard calling little kids liars and tricksters because of the person their parents were supporting for president? Yeah, that’s real nice.

I think the parents have every right to be angry. This isn’t about kids not getting candy, it’s about a woman who feels justified to insult her neighbors’ kids because of politics. That’s not what I thought this country was all about.

Comment #41: sophronia  on  11/02  at  05:25 AM

After watching that little news clip, it seems to ME that this is a lady who just doesn’t (and never DID) want to give candy to black children. Clearly, there are black children in the neighborhood; this was her little ploy to get OUT of handing out candy to them.

And then claim it was “politics”.

Comment #42: KMTBERRY  on  11/02  at  05:30 AM

There have always been folks that declined Halloween.  Some from relgious ignorance, others from poverty.  Yes, in the US.  Some can’t afford the cost.

This person chose to be brave to wee ones as she knew she would be able to.  Yep, a four-year-old won’t be able to fight back.  I think this person goes to retail stores to harass the clerks as telling a ‘customer’ to go away could cost you your job.

Comment #43: Mold  on  11/02  at  09:24 AM

The woman from Grosse Pointe Farms is a prime example of the racial troubles impeding Detroit’s recovery. The good citizens of the nearly all white Grosse Points see the spreading tide of dark skins encroaching on their gentile preserve of 3500 + sq. ft. McMansions adorned with the best of Anglo-American culture.

Comment #44: BobbyV  on  11/02  at  09:37 AM

<i>The more mainstream churches will offer an alternative “Hallulujah Party” where you dress as your favorite Bible character (only the good ones, obviously, as scary/evil themes are not permitted) and go to a church party that usually involves a potluck of some sort. The more “fundie” churches won’t even do a Christian-themed party. Some churches will also capitalize on the haunted houses of Halloween by doing a Trip To Hell or Hell House “passion play” creepy weird thing. <i>

Someone in my town made a McCain/Palin haunted house for Halloween. 

Sort of like a Trip to Hell, no?

Comment #45: LauraB  on  11/02  at  10:15 AM

aaaand, I fail basic html.  Yes.  Awesome.

Comment #46: LauraB  on  11/02  at  10:15 AM

“aaaand, I fail basic html.  Yes.  Awesome.”

HTML can be cruel.  Very cruel…  smile

Comment #47: MikeEss  on  11/02  at  11:00 AM

<i.>People have the right to do what they want, she had the right to deny children candy for any idiotic reason she wanted to, provided she didn’t say anything mean</i>

That’s true. But this doesn’t give her the right to avoid public scrutiny of her behavior. You can say and do almost any dumbass thing you want, but if it’s sufficiently dumb, you may have the public judging you for your behavior. I really don’t see what the problem is there.

Comment #48: Tyro  on  11/02  at  11:22 AM

HTML can be cruel.  Very cruel…

I’m just distraught over the end of daylight savings time!  Sniffle.

Comment #49: LauraB  on  11/02  at  11:40 AM

In the white flight suburbs of Atlanta, where I live (I know, the shame!), we actually had a few kids skip our house when they saw our Obama sign out front.  One pair of siblings actually read the sign, turned around, and ran home (presumably to tell their parents or get further instruction).

Weird to see kids indoctrinated into hatred such that they’ll turn down free candy.

Comment #50: ME  on  11/02  at  12:01 PM

You’re a Foul One
Mrs. Douche
You’re a sour, slimy heel!
You have vinegar for insides
And a rind of rotted peels
Mrs. Douche

I wouldn’t touch ya with a five hundred and thirty eight foot pole!

Comment #51: Ms Kate  on  11/02  at  01:06 PM

Tyro:

That’s true. But this doesn’t give her the right to avoid public scrutiny of her behavior. You can say and do almost any dumbass thing you want, but if it’s sufficiently dumb, you may have the public judging you for your behavior. I really don’t see what the problem is there.

Indeed. I’m always amazed by people who honestly believe that the First Amendment is really a shield from criticism. It’s almost like they’ve never actually read it, or something.

Comment #52: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  11/02  at  03:50 PM

She has a right to not give out candy and we have a right to call her a cold, mean old biddy. I would have knocked on her door for fun, just to tell her to get over herself. She’s not more important than anybody else.

Comment #53: Rainy  on  11/02  at  05:22 PM

Are we to be subjected to opprobrium?

So, Mike, if I follow your post, you sympathize with this assjack because you’re afraid you, too, might be on TV because you’re too lazy to give out candy. Unfortunately, and I know this will come as an unpleasant surprise to you: not everything that happens in the world is all about you.

This woman is likely to be dimly aware that a “no niggers” sign is a little bit blatant, even for the suburbs north of Detroit, so she did the best she could in code.

Comment #54: mythago  on  11/02  at  05:23 PM

All I can say is that I was wondering while listening how the fuck I was going to sleep tonight. And then, thank fucking god, at the end the brilliant and tenacious investigative reporter informed us that it was “just an isolated incident”. PHEW!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment #55: Comrade PhysioProf  on  11/02  at  07:25 PM

I had something like that happen to me the other night.  The doorbell rings, i open the door with my big bowl of bags of M&Ms;and candy corn, and what did I see but two cute - no, adorable - little teenie kids, maybe four or five years old.  The little girl was dressed as a bumble bee, complete with stripey stockings and gold glitter on her face, and the little boy was done up as Batman, with a purple outfit, shiny black mask and cape, and a big gap where his front teeth are supposed to be. So cute!!!

Both of them: TWICK O TWEET!

Me: OK, but one question first.  Do you support the Judean People’s Front?

Them:  We are fow the Peopo’s Fwont of Judea!

Me:  What?? Why you, you little bastards!  (slams the door, turns off the porch light)

Comment #56: Wayne Lee Judea  on  11/02  at  08:19 PM

mythago, I don’t particularly sympathize with her, but I do feel that the TV station and the parents who were interviewed got too wound up and expressed it in language that suggested she had some sort of obligation to hand out the goods and that her failure to hand out the goods caused more emotional turmoil and heartache than it actually did.

And no, my laziness isn’t going to put me on TV.  If somebody HAD come over, I didn’t have any candy, but I do have a bunch of Thomas Jefferson $1 coins, I would have thrown one of those in, I think that would have gone over pretty good.

Yeah about the sign, I did go back and comment further about the sign once I remembered that, the sign crossed over into really deliberate insult which is inexcusable.

I don’t object to people commenting on her foolishness, but all this oh, she ruined Halloween, give me a break, that’s one house that didn’t contribute to a bucket so heavy that you stagger home under its weight.

That evaluation, however, only refers to the bare failure to give out the candy.  The other stuff she did deserves some of the harsh commentary she got.  The sign, and any nasty things she might have said, is disgraceful.

I guess my objection to the comments in the TV piece is kind of a weak one.  She was criticized for not giving out candy, while I think that was, while not very neighborly, not morally objectionable.  I feel she shouldn’t have been criticized for that, but should have been criticized more harshly for the ugly stuff on her sign.

Comment #57: Mike Toreno  on  11/02  at  10:44 PM

My wife and I don’t participate in Halloween because we’re lazy; we don’t like to be constantly getting up, and our neighborhood has a custom where if you don’t turn on your porch light people don’t come.  That being said, if someone had shown up I would have come across with something.  Are we to be subjected to opprobrium?

Not participating is one thing.

Using the holiday, and the expectations of children (as well as social signals like leaving the light on), as a honeypot to draw in a captive audience for a goofy political stand - something else entirely. Yes, you would be subjected to “opprobrium” for being an asshole. That’s sort of the purpose of society, after all - subjecting assholes to opprobrium.

If you pulled that shit in my neighborhood, you’d get egged, TP’d, and I’d fork your lawn and burn a bag of dog shit, just for good measure. It’s trick-or-treat, after all, not nothing-or-treat.

Comment #58: Chet  on  11/02  at  10:53 PM

It’s not just that she didn’t give out candy, Mike. If she didn’t give anyone candy, nobody would give a fuck, and neither she nor her neighbors would have ever wound up on TV. It’s that she didn’t give out candy to “those people,” and made sure everyone around her knew it.

That kind of thing is bad enough when you’re only dealing with adults. Involve the kids, though, and you deserve every bit of public pillory you get.

Comment #59: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  11/03  at  12:06 AM

The family we spent Halloween with had ginger candies mixed up with all the rest of it, they “think” they avoided giving it to any of the younger kids.

I guess they’ll find out if they get a rock through their window any time in the next week. Those things are absolutely painful. Literally; like five minutes later still burning the soft tissues of my mouth painful.

Comment #60: Auguste  on  11/03  at  01:17 AM

Trick or Treat?

The nasty McCain lady went for tricks, but kind hearted Obama supporters prefer treats:

See the story here:

http://kelleybell.blogspot.com/2008/11/happy-halloween.html

Comment #61: Kelley Bell  on  11/03  at  09:52 AM

I realize that the plural of anecdote is not data, but I was talking to my mom on Saturday and she told me about how she sat on the porch on Friday night to hand out candy. A little trick-or-treater, maybe five or six years old, came up and collected his candy, then looked over at the Obama sign she had in her yard and declared “We’re not voting for him!” Then he froze and looked at her, like he was waiting for her to demand the candy back. Mom just laughed and said “that’s ok,” and sent him on his way.

This, to me, is so indicative of the republican mindset, because you can imagine the sort of homelife of that child that led up to that exchange. Republican bullying extends not just to denying candy to little kids who don’t happen to agree with you, but training little kids that if they don’t fall in line with hegemonic thinking that they deserve to have their candy taken away.

Comment #62: Mighty Ponygirl  on  11/03  at  12:04 PM

What a vile woman.  It’s one thing to teach kids about politics, but it’s another thing to politicize them in that way.  Whether it’s her not giving candy to kids whose parents are voting for Obama or that asshat who named his daughter after the McCain ticket, these people should be banned from reproducing.  I’m truly sorry for any children these people have.

Comment #63: Atheist Feminazi  on  11/03  at  12:21 PM

You know what it’s called:

“Tricks or Treats”

You give a treat to keep the tricks away.  If you don’t want to give out candy or have run out, you turn off the porch light.  You have the door open and candy available and refuse to honor the traditional ‘blackmail’?

Tricks it is.

I would have egged her myself.

Comment #64: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  11/03  at  03:56 PM

“Random thought: Are fundies against Halloween because it’s a pagan holiday? Because I think Jesus would be down with trick or treating. “Suffer unto me the little children”, “love thy neighbor”, all that.”

About a month ago a fundy-seeming lady and her two kids came to my door selling flower bulbs to pay for field trips. Something about homeschooling was mentioned.

I was looking at the catalog, when one of the kids said. “Is Halloween Satan’s birthday?” Mom replies, “No.” Kid, “Seems like it.” I had to laugh at that.

I bought some tulip bulbs and told the kids they could keep the large pieces of bark they were playing with while I dug up change.

Comment #65: witless chum  on  11/03  at  05:35 PM

I came across some additional information about Shirley Nagel that illuminates what kind of person she is.  Here is what the Washington Post reported about Nagel, a delegate to the RNC, way before Halloween:  “Nagel, a retired schoolteacher from Detroit, had anticipated few events as eagerly as she did Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s speech Wednesday night. [...] ‘You judge a book by its cover, and we’ve been waiting for that chance with her,’ said Nagel, dressed in a hockey jersey like the rest of the Michigan delegation. ‘We want to see how tall she is, if she wears heels, how she wears her hair. That’s stuff us Republican women need to know.’”  “On the Convention Floor”, WP, 09/04/08.

Now, after reading this, is it any wonder Nagel acted the way she did?

Comment #66: Amused  on  11/03  at  06:19 PM

Poor Taste, Rude, Bad Manners, NO Excuse

I don’t care who you are voting for, that’s no excuse to be nasty to children.  Be careful what you do, because, what goes around; comes around.  The last time I looked children don’t vote.  I hope that this woman is not the spokesperson for other republicans. I don’t seem to have a problem having an intelligent and informed conversation with people who have opposing views, being polite helps. This nation is supposed to be indivisible.

Comment #67: M Stamper  on  11/04  at  04:34 PM

WHAT a loser! Oppressive people such as these earn their right to be worms - not human beings!

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