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Add AFA’s Bryan Fischer to list of homobigots in meltdown over conservatives ditching them

Yesterday I posted about WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah blasting Ann Coulter’s “betrayal” of him regarding the anti-gay “culture wars” by keynoting GOProud‘s HOMOCON. You could almost feel Farah’s raging on the keyboard at other luminaries of the right who are also abandoning the professional anti-gay agenda:

...“Conservative” icon Glenn Beck, in a conversation with Bill O’Reilly, said basically he doesn’t care about the attack on traditional marriage. Asked if the California ruling will harm the country in any way, he responded: “No I don’t. Will the gays come and get us? I believe that Thomas Jefferson said: ‘If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket what difference is it to me?’”

Rush Limbaugh, the iconic leader of American conservatism, hired the noted homosexual singer Elton John to perform at his wedding. He has not aired one of his bitingly satirical “gay community updates” in years.

“Conservatives,” it seems, are on the verge of not only accepting homosexuality’s domination of the culture, but embracing it.

We can now add Bryan Fischer to the far-right public meltdown. He’s the host of the “Focal Point” radio program on the American Family Radio talk network (one of the arms of Don and Tim Wildmon’s American Family Association). This is a man who actually said that society must “put active homosexuals through an effective reparative therapy program.”

Look at this crazed column, “Coulter, Beck go AWOL in culture war.” The anger-generated spittle is dripping onto his keyboard.

Count Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck as the latest deserters in the culture war and in the battle for sexual normalcy. They have flinched at “precisely that little point which the world and the devil are … attacking,” and so have forfeited the right to consider themselves any longer culture warriors.

Let’s be clear: Endorsing homosexual behavior is not a conservative position, period. Supporting special rights based on aberrant sexual behavior is not conservative, period. Supporting either civil unions or marriages based entirely on using the alimentary canal for sexual purposes is not conservative, period.

You [Ann Coulter] will be received with a standing ovation [at HOMOCON] for pandering to a group that wants to put open homosexuals in the same showers and barracks with sexually normal soldiers (priority No. 4) and is fiercely opposed to any attempt to elevate protection for natural marriage to the Constitution (priority No. 7 – see GOProud website).

...Glenn Beck has completely and shamelessly surrendered on the issue of gay marriage, and did so on Bill O’Reilly’s program, only the most-watched cable news program in all TV land…Even O’Reilly, who is a notorious squish on the subject of the acceptability of homosexual behavior, was taken aback by Beck’s capitulation and rightly accused him of “ignoring the profound change in the American family.”

Folks, we are starting to see real damage to core of the professional homo-hate machine. The fiscal conservative/libertarian lite wing of the GOP, as well as those like Beck and Coulter, who depended on that demo for their meal ticket in the past, sees the legal handwriting on the wall for the social conservatives (aka loonies) and are publicly making a break for the door to more credibility), with the alignment now toward the burgeoning Tea Party wing.

It’s pretty clear that a corner has been turned, with the green light foor Beck and Coulter likely being the 138-page Prop 8 legal ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker that decimated the pathetic case presented by the defenders of marriage discrimination. The sorry-ass, religious, culture, and bias-based excuses to prevent opening civil marriage to lesbians and gays couldn’t stand up to the reality-based legal standard, as Olsen and Boies smacked down the so-called “experts” who bothered to show up to testify. Just a peek at Walker’s Findings of Fact alone put those ridiculous arguments completely to bed.

Beck and Coulter, who are thinking about their professional bottom lines, are placing their bets on the legal wind blowing away from the bible-beating theocrat wing of conservatism.

Again, while I can’t always agree with their political positions on issues, credit also has to go to GOProud, which has managed to become a deeply lodged splinter into the social conservative movement in a very short time (the LCR was never this effective). It was first an irritation, and now it’s making the bible-beaters hurt badly if they are taking this infighting public over HOMOCON. Makes we wish I could get up there to cover the event, which is on September 25 in NYC.

GOProud’s Chris Barron recently took The Peter to task over his expected eruption over Coulter’s gig:

“I strongly encourage Mr LaBarbera to head out to his local bookstore, buy an Ann Coulter book and actually read it. For a guy who claims to be a “fan,” he seems completely clueless about what Ann has actually written and said about gay people and gay conservatives.

If Mr. LaBarbera spent less time obsessing about gay sex and hanging out at gay Pride events, maybe he would have a little more time to read one of Ann’s books.”

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 05:04 PM • (19) Comments

Unfortunately, the only reason the right wing is letting go of some of it’s homo hate, is because they’ve got new scapegoats to rile up the idiots: scary, scary muslims in America (including the one in the White House), and the financial mess this country’s in (for which they can now blame the Democrats and the White House.)

Homo hate must not be turning out the bigot vote like it usta, and it’s not as popular with the moderates who will now reject the fiscally crazy candidates who used it for coverage.

Comment #1: judybrowni  on  08/21  at  05:53 PM

good point about the new front in the culture war.  It seems like the culture war is always about who does god hate this week, and he or she or possibly it hates muslims

Comment #2: John Rove  on  08/21  at  07:02 PM

The Conservatives can see the change in the wind. They’ve always abandoned positions that they held most dear in order to keep a hold on power. Whether this is a good or bad thing I’m not sure, as the Liberals always seems able to sabotage themselves by being incompetent. It’s the ebb and flow of politics, the Conservatives are always late to the party but take advantage of the buffet the Liberals brought.

It’s cynical, and shameful, that the Conservatives seems willing to abandon their position in order to stay mainstream after the Liberals have spent so much energy campaigning for the rights that the Conservatives stood against but now adopt.

I suppose in the end it’s a good thing. The Conservatives, seeing the shift in the wind, change their position to at least as semblance of progress after the Liberals spend decades preparing the ground. I just wish they’d be a bit quicker about it. Stonewall was in 1969, by 2010 they’ve at least come round to the idea that rights apply to homosexual men and women too. Maybe by 2060, they’ll have realised that rights apply to everyone, not just people that can give them votes, but I doubt it.

Comment #3: Akheloios  on  08/21  at  07:41 PM

I await the day when right wing history revisionists start denying that conservatives ever had a problem with gay rights, and start harping on how the now deceased LGBT leaders would have totally agreed with whatever BS they’re selling at that time.

Not eagerly or willingly. But I await it nonetheless.

Comment #4: kaje  on  08/21  at  09:20 PM

In other words: “The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them”. Mark Twain.

And that is why conservatism is the dumb thing to adopt!

Comment #5: kaje  on  08/21  at  09:22 PM

Mustache and hair combed and sprayed upward to disguise baldness.  That’s right out of the Closet Case Couture Manual!

Comment #6: Ms Kate  on  08/21  at  09:32 PM

This is so exciting.  The tentacles of the homosexual octopus are slithering into America’s heartland, and no bigot can stop it.

Comment #7: Dylan  on  08/21  at  10:13 PM

Kaje:

“My grandpa didn’t fight at Stonewall just to have these…trans people…usurp the memory of proud gay Americans.”—Conservatives, 2030

Comment #8: Dylan  on  08/21  at  10:32 PM

I wonder what his definition of “sexually normal” is?  I wonder how many conservatives fit into it?  Heck, I wonder how many human beings fit into it?

Comment #9: MadLibrarian  on  08/21  at  10:46 PM

@Kaje and Dylan

Of course, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Future Fox News Morning Show

Token Woman:  I was a little surprised at the most recent demographics-
Heterosexual Man: As was I.
Gay Man: For those who don’t know, this report revealed that there are still numerous single mothers in our country and - and this is the new shocking revelation - an alarming number of lesbian “parents” raising children.
Woman: Umhum.
Heterosexual Man: Who is thinking about these children?  We all know that children need two parents in order to do well and that at least one of those parents must be a father.
Woman: I don’t know how my children would get by without their dad.
Gay Man: My partner and I were talking about just that this morning.

Comment #10: Atheist, A Feminist  on  08/21  at  11:16 PM

“Combover and Pornstache: crime fightin’ duo!”

Comment #11: Eric_RoM  on  08/21  at  11:26 PM

that wants to put open homosexuals in the same showers and barracks with sexually normal soldiers

So it’s just being an OPEN homosexual that makes you not “sexually normal?” Closeted gayz are fine?

Allrighty then.

Comment #12: Kyra  on  08/21  at  11:45 PM

Bryan Fischer’s the dude who wanted to kill the Killer Whale after it killed the trainer last Spring because the bible told him to.  I think we should call him “Fry Willy.”

Comment #13: Albert Cirrus  on  08/21  at  11:51 PM

Alimentary canal - like, isn’t that the latest love zone for Bible Thumping Teens?  Seriously, there isn’t much beyond docking that two gay men can do that a straight couple can’t.

Comment #14: Ms Kate  on  08/22  at  12:08 AM

I had to look up docking. Since I’m circumcised, that act wouldn’t have occurred to me.

Mutual fellatio or teabagging is something else a married couple couldn’t carry out, though it could be subsumed under category 69.

The gay marriage movement is really starting to pick up steam, and public opinion is changing faster than I would have thought possible. Spain, Mexico City, Argentina? Exemplars of Catholic machismo?

I doubt that Judge Walker’s opinion will be the last word on the subject, but it no longer seems out of the question.

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Comment #16: jenna1617  on  08/22  at  01:56 AM

PZ mentioned this in his blog too.  One of his commenters pointed out a statement from Coulter saying basically she’ll do a speech anywhere as long as she gets paid.  As an example, she pointed out her many appearances at college campuses, which she said “might as well be Al Qaida.”

Classy.

I swear it’s like I’m watching the WWE again and it’s a match between two heels.  I don’t care who wins.  I just hope they whomp the hell out of each other and make the good guys’ jobs a little easier.

Comment #17: damnedyankee  on  08/22  at  08:47 AM

This is a good thing, Akheloios. The culture wars are one of the main reasons why it has hard for liberals to implement their ideas on non-social issues like economic regulation, transportation, and infrastructure. Practically everything was turned into a social war issue, creating instant legions against any liberal policy proposal. The key for advancing liberalism on non-social issues is to a achieve a liberal victory in the culture wars. This would hopefully lead to a debate on liberal ideas on their merits. Since liberal ideas are superior to conservative ones, we should achieve a lot more victories.

Comment #18: Lee  on  08/22  at  08:58 AM

David Brock’s memoir Blinded by the Right contains a passage in which Brock (at the time a closeted gay man who was at the center of the Clinton-era right-wing hate machine) remembers hanging out with Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and other right-wing harpies—they almost certainly knew of his sexual orientation but probably ignored it because he was a good writer and had penned hit pieces on both Clintons and, most famously, Anita Hill.

Coulter certainly didn’t have any compunction about hanging with the numerous gay Republicans and conservatives in the Washington scene in the 90s. This makes her “conversion” to a gay-friendly stance a little less than surprising. As damnedyankee points out (quoting PZ Myers), Coulter is a hired gun who will speak anywhere, on anything, as long as she gets the big bucks.

Comment #19: I Love Rock'n'Roll  on  08/22  at  11:22 PM
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