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Ann Richards: He-Man Woman Hater

image“Feminists” are up in arms about Obama’s latest assault on women, an insult so grave that I wonder if he hasn’t permanently ruined all chance at winning the general:

This is from the transcript of the appearance: “[B]ecause of the campaign that Hillary Clinton waged, my daughters and all of your daughters will forever know that there is no barrier to who they are and what they can be in the United States of America. They can take for granted that women can do anything that the boys can do (cheers begin)—and do it better, and do it in heels. I still (Obama laughs)— I still don’t know how she does it in heels.”

How he could possibly make a reference to a Democratic woman in high heels and think anyone could possibly take it as an innocent, respectful comment?  I initially thought that Obama’s comment was just a reference to the fact that Clinton’s gender placed other specific burdens on her that none of the male candidates had to face, but I also thought that Robin Williams just had a lot of energy in the 70s.

Her persona was always unconventional. When she was nearly 60, a grandmother and governor of Texas, Richards took to riding a Harley-Davidson motorcycle because, she said, “I thought I needed to do something kind of jazzy.”

Another line she often quoted summed up her view of the aspirations of women in politics: “Ginger Rogers did everything that Fred Astaire did. She just did it backwards and in high heels.”

I do wonder, however, how Obama will deal with the feminist outrage as typified by well-known women’s rights advocates Gateway Pundit and a blogger you can e-mail at johngalt.aynrand-at-hotmail.com.  The fallout remains to be seen.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 09:57 AM • (47) Comments

Since everything else hasn’t stuck, we’re going to throw sexism at Obama, because we know that got him in trouble during the primary.

Eye-rolling aside, I think the more damaging attacks are going to be the ones directed at the Democratic Party base rather than the outrageous claims designed to motivate the rightwing reactionaries to vote against him rather than for John McCain.  They’re going to shoot for depressing women’s votes overtly this election.

Comment #1: idiosynchronic  on  06/28  at  10:55 AM

I don’t know how ... or why ... she does it in heels either.  Her OR Nancy Pelosi! 

That’s where the patriarchy is ... do shorter, older women feel they need to wear femmy footwear that doesn’t match their day’s agenda because comfortable shoes are for lesbians?

Was it man-hating to show Nixon on the beach in wingtips?

Comment #2: Ms Kate  on  06/28  at  11:03 AM

Judging from the LA Times comments, people are calling bullshit on the “mysogynist” angle ... women, Clinton supporters, Pelosi voters.  Every woman knows that it was simply a notice of societies ridiculous expectations of women ... and Obama, a man, noticing and calling out the REAL misogyny is why these overpaid blogpunks are pushing this bullshit. 

Like most men, they wouldn’t know real mysogyny if it bit them on the dick.

Comment #3: Ms Kate  on  06/28  at  11:09 AM

sorry, “society’s”

Comment #4: Ms Kate  on  06/28  at  11:09 AM

I love how “Obama mentions anything vaguely gendered in the same paragraph as Clinton” equals “Obama is a raging misogynist”.

I mean, it’s not that I don’t think Clinton faced very real sexism during the primaries, because she definitely did.  Which Obama alludes to here in this speech.  But it’s kind of the way I felt about that whole “kitchen sink” debacle.  Everything but the kitchen sink is a bona fide idiom in the English language that does not have a history of sexism behind it.  It’s just an expression.  It means “she’s just coming up with completely irrelevant stuff to throw at me in hopes that it’ll stick.”  She’s tried everything but the kitchen sink.

Comment #5: The Opoponax  on  06/28  at  11:16 AM

My husband Charlie wears the high heels in OUR house, and I have no idea how he does it.

Comment #6: louise  on  06/28  at  11:23 AM

Ms Kate: I totally agree.  I love looking at heels, but if I’m going to have to stand up for more than 2 or 3 hours, I seriously reconsider.  I really do wonder how she does it too.
This reminds me of “colorblind” race discussion, where anybody who brings up difference is racist (Obama has been accused of this too, come to think of it).

Comment #7: bethany  on  06/28  at  11:25 AM

Even some of the LA Times commenters remarked on their creating a story out of nothing. I call bullshit here… non fucking event over a throwaway comment. Snore…

Comment #8: louise  on  06/28  at  11:28 AM

Bit of history - One interpretation of ‘throwing the kitchen sink’ is an old euphemism for throwing, “everything alcoholic we have at the opposition all mixed into one slug.”  Time was in fraternities and other social institutions, participants would BYOB, and then the host would mix the beverages in the kitchen sink into some truly unholy concoctions.

There are others relating to selling the sink (back when sinks were simple washbasins) during the Depressions, or buying a fully furnished or trimmed house before modern plumbing where the homeowner would need to provide their own sink - much like “washer and dryer not included”.

Comment #9: idiosynchronic  on  06/28  at  11:31 AM

Gateway Pundit is pretty low-hanging fruit, dont’cha think?

Comment #10: atheist  on  06/28  at  11:42 AM

SInce she *does* wear heels I fail to see how that is mysogynistic in any way.  If he had said she does it while baking cookies, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen that would be something else.  Oh wait, that was Hillary in the 90s talking about staying home, baking cookies and having teas…

Comment #11: AlanB  on  06/28  at  11:44 AM

I’m increasingly convinced that “feminists” are McCain operatives.  I know a lot of feminists, and as a rule, they’ve quit concocting fake outrage over Obama’s supposed sexism now that it’s not politically useful.  But if I were a McCain campaigner, I would create stories of outraged feminists, because it would a) distract from women’s issues, where Obama is strong and McCain is weak and b) make feminists look stupid, which will discredit genuine criticisms against McCain.

Comment #12: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/28  at  11:56 AM

I just took a quick tour of some larger feminist blogs, and nary a peep, not even at Shakesville, where they’ve been popping Obama pretty hard for his FISA stance and where some of the regular commenters have said that he can’t win their vote—they’re voting for McKinney instead. Not a post, not a bit of outrage, nothing.

I’ve said it before—the press wants this to not be a blowout so badly that they’ll gin up whatever outrage they can just to make it close.

Comment #13: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  06/28  at  12:13 PM

What Amanda said. If it looks like a ratfuck, smells like a ratfuck and walks (in high heels of course) like a ratfuck…

Comment #14: Steve LaBonne  on  06/28  at  12:45 PM

There’s no serious feminist misinterpretation of Obama’s reference to the famous Ginger Rogers quote among any feminists of note, Jesse. Just you passing on the ratfuck, perpetuating anger at a group of women who don’t exist, and not having a clue.

Comment #15: Nancy in NYC  on  06/28  at  01:08 PM

Nancy, did you read to the end of the post?

Comment #16: Jesse Taylor  on  06/28  at  01:10 PM

Yes, I did, Jesse. And given that you know damn well what Obama was referencing, and appear to be aware of the perpetual media myth about/assaults against angry feminists who dog Obama at every turn, I wonder what in hell you were thinking putting this up.

Comment #17: Nancy in NYC  on  06/28  at  01:21 PM

Apparently, everyone else seemed to get the point but you. 

This isn’t genuine feminist outrage, and that’s the point of the post.

Comment #18: Jesse Taylor  on  06/28  at  01:24 PM

There’s always one.

Comment #19: Chet  on  06/28  at  01:35 PM

Keep digging, Jesse. You’re almost up to your neck. And read your own comment thread. Apparently, lots of other folks thought this was pretty weak, too.

Done with you and off to Pride.

Comment #20: Nancy in NYC  on  06/28  at  02:29 PM

I’ll keep digging by reiterating what I said.  I can feel the dirt piling up…slowly…slowly.

Go have some fun and come back level-headed tomorrow.

Comment #21: Jesse Taylor  on  06/28  at  02:35 PM

where the blue hell do these people get off, shooting baseless snark on every single Jesse post, or like last week—ordering bloggers off THEIR OWN DAMN BLOG?

it’s not productive and it doesn’t make you look smart, incisive, or interesting. It makes you a giant rude jerk.

sorry Jesse. I know you can obviously defend yourself but this kind of idiotic Webular entitlement really guts my monkey.

Comment #22: The One True Vegan  on  06/28  at  02:41 PM

Nancy, I know you’re stupid, but try reading it again.  SLOWLY this time.

Also:

not even at Shakesville, where they’ve been popping Obama pretty hard for his FISA stance

You think that’s why they’re going after Obama?  Puh-LEEZ.  That’s their excuse.  Shakesville is a rathole full of race-baiters, led by one of the biggest.  They wouldn’t vote for Obama if he promised them all a stable of flying unicorns that grant wishes and could actually deliver on it.

Comment #23: Damian  on  06/28  at  02:44 PM

TOTV - most of it’s just adjustment.  Same thing happened when Ezra came on, when Amanda came on, when Ezra and I left, probably when Pam and Auguste came on too.  (Not Berube, as he’s immune from criticism and most viral diseases, including shopaholism.)

I’m not angry with anyone, just frustrated.  Amanda and Pam aren’t producing anything less, or at any lower quality.  I’m an addition, not a transition.

Plus, if I were going to take over, I’d bring over my cadre of sham commenters to pump me up as the greatest thing that ever existed.  And/or bring back Media Whores Online and take full credit for it.

Comment #24: Jesse Taylor  on  06/28  at  02:49 PM

Nancy:

There’s no serious feminist misinterpretation of Obama’s reference to the famous Ginger Rogers quote among any feminists of note, Jesse. Just you passing on the ratfuck, perpetuating anger at a group of women who don’t exist, and not having a clue.

That’s right, Jesse. Your use of irony and sarcasm for, like, the first time evar at Pandagon was totally irresponsible. You just can’t expect people to grasp difficult concepts like faking earnestness in order to mock someone else’s viewpoint on the first go-round.

Comment #25: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  06/28  at  03:00 PM

Damian:

They wouldn’t vote for Obama if he promised them all a stable of flying unicorns that grant wishes and could actually deliver on it.

On the other hand, I would vote for anyone at all if they could guarantee me a stable of flying unicorns (pegacorns?) that grant wishes.

Comment #26: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  06/28  at  03:05 PM

I think Senator Obama was referencing—perhaps half-consciously—this popular T-shirt and bumper-sticker from a few years ago:

“GINGER DID EVERYTHING FRED DID—ONLY BACKWARDS AND ON HEELS.”

The problem is that only older folks, and people who order their casual apparel from Northern Sun, are likely to get the reference.  Had the senator included the whole slogan, he might have been less vulnerable to manufactured hysteria by Republican plants.

Comment #27: Lori Heine  on  06/28  at  03:06 PM

Duh…just read the rest of the post.  Remind me not to get up late and post first thing on Saturday mornings…

Comment #28: Lori Heine  on  06/28  at  03:08 PM

I really like that shoe in the picture.  It is the sort of thing that I want to hate, but I altually love.

And who told Jesse to go away?  I think Jesse is on of the funniest bloggers I have read anywhwere.

(And I am not even Jesse’s sock puppet!)

Comment #29: GumbyAnne  on  06/28  at  03:47 PM

Oh aye, the impulse behind it makes sense, Jesse. I s’pose I’m a bit old-fashioned, in that I tend to feel like a guest when I’m at someone’s blog, rather than a consumer or a constituent. And I suppose that brings out my inner Grandma. “You might put your feet up at your OWN blog, young lady, but you’ll not do it here!”

Comment #30: The One True Vegan  on  06/28  at  04:02 PM

NOT, i should add, that I think bloggers are immune from genuine argument and criticism. Far from it. But there’s genuine criticism and then there’s “Blog about what I want you to blog about! How dare you write something I don’t approve of! You’re not funny! Why aren’t you like so and so?!? Waaa…”

Comment #31: The One True Vegan  on  06/28  at  04:05 PM

I just wanted to say that Jesse Taylor is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful blogger I’ve ever known in my life.

...and no, he didn’t pay me to say that - why do you ask?...

Comment #32: MikeEss  on  06/28  at  04:24 PM

Were it not for my ailing metatarso-phalangeal joint, I’d WANT THOSE HEELS in the picture.

Comment #33: NancyP  on  06/28  at  04:33 PM

Ann Richards may have quoted it, but it was Ginger Rogers herself who said it.  And was it Katharine Hepburn or Dorothy Parker, commenting on Astaire/Rogers: “She gave him sex appeal, he gave her class.”?

@Nancy P: I lust for the stiletto-heeled Converse myself, but alas, work retail. (Long hours on feet.)

Comment #34: hbsweet, empress of ice cream  on  06/28  at  05:20 PM

It’s (not so) nice to see that other websites have to deal with the same “blog about/write about what I want, using language and/or humour that accords with MY personal taste” entitlement cries that the site I write for does. You also seem to share that same small percentage of readers who get so frustrated by their own inability to grasp complexities that they make sillies of themselves with petulant public flails. 

It seems every new (or returning) writer has to have his or her hazing, Jesse.  For what it’s worth, I love your stuff. You inject a biting sense of humour into Pandagon that’s much appreciated by some of us. This is coming from the least humourless writer on her own site; you see, I can appreciate expertise in others that I lack, rather than get defensive about it!  I always liked the content here, but I never laughed out loud until you came along.  The more styles/voices, the better.

Comment #35: Ranylt  on  06/28  at  06:04 PM

To me, this recalls Fred Astaire’s comment on Ginger Rogers. “She had to do the same things I did, but backwards and in high heels.” Astaire was reminding the press adulating him, that Ginger was often doing harder work.—Oh, duh, a mention of that was made later in the OP.
At the very least, Obama is thinking of all the time spent on one’s feet campaigning; working a room, standing to deliver speeches, racing off to another event. At best, he’s reminding everyone that Hillary had to deal with some seriously sexist shit.

Comment #36: Samantha Vimes  on  06/28  at  06:20 PM

Damian:
“Shakesville is a rathole full of race-baiters, led by one of the biggest.”

That’s a pretty strong claim.  Care to provide any evidence?

Comment #37: Karla  on  06/28  at  07:39 PM

Thanks for calling that out, Karla. You don’t have to like where many people there have come down politically (hell, lots of them don’t like how the folks here have come down - the divisions this primary has created are not too pretty), and you don’t have to like the blog, but to call them a rathole full of race-baiters is both pretty low and pretty false.

Comment #38: chingona  on  06/28  at  08:48 PM

Though it is easy to read Senator Obama’s quote as possibly sexist, I don’t think it is. Would a strong, smart, confident woman like Michelle Obama have married and stuck by a misogynist? I honestly doubt it. Is this line of reasoning erred somehow?

Comment #39: Sara Pulis  on  06/28  at  09:30 PM

We have a couple of regulars around here named nancy, and “in NYC” isn’t one of them.

Lots of bridges in NYC with good WiFi reception beneath them I guess.  Carry on Jesse!

Comment #40: Ms Kate  on  06/28  at  10:37 PM

I find this phenomenon of following trackbacks to post nasty messages on blogs you’ve never read before pretty strange.

Comment #41: chingona  on  06/28  at  11:27 PM

Damian said: You think that’s why they’re going after Obama?  Puh-LEEZ.  That’s their excuse.  Shakesville is a rathole full of race-baiters, led by one of the biggest.  They wouldn’t vote for Obama if he promised them all a stable of flying unicorns that grant wishes and could actually deliver on it.

Dude, you’re clearly not reading the same Shakesville as I am. Some of the bloggers there are open Obama supporters (Jeff Fecke for one), some were Edwards supporters, some were Clinton supporters. Many, regardless of the candidate they preferred, have already stated that they support Obama. Others do still need to be convinced, but calling them race baiting is just plain ignorant of the various stances over there. I seriously doubt that AngryBlackBitch would be a co-blogger if she felt there was a lot of race baiting going on.

Seriously, today Melissa has a post about the event at Unity, with lots of great pictures of Clinton and Obama together. They have regular updates where they call out media racism against both Barack and Michelle Obama. They are fighting the good fight. Where do you get off calling them race baiters?

Comment #42: wondering  on  06/29  at  02:03 AM

Ann Richards may have quoted it, but it was Ginger Rogers herself who said it.  And was it Katharine Hepburn or Dorothy Parker, commenting on Astaire/Rogers: “She gave him sex appeal, he gave her class.”?

It was Hepburn for the second one but apparently it was actually Bob Thaves who originally gave the quote in this form:

“Sure he was great, but don’t forget that Ginger Rogers did everything he did, backwards… and in high heels.”

http://www.gingerrogers.com/about/quotes.html

Comment #43: hypatia  on  06/29  at  02:58 AM

Damian has to be thinking of a different blog than Liss’s.

Comment #44: FlipYrWhig  on  06/29  at  03:47 AM

MsKate - not to mention that she flounced off by saying “I’m off to Pride”—NYC’s pride parade wasn’t yesterday, but today.  “Nancy” “in NYC” is full of hot air.

Comment #45: The Opoponax  on  06/29  at  01:02 PM

Damian has to be thinking of a different blog than Liss’s.
While I would never say the majority of posters there are race-baiters, any blog that puts Zuzu on the front page is not immune to the charge. I think there is a lot of clueless basking in white privilege that goes on over there (Melissa has never apologized for spreading the lie about Obama playing Jay-Z’s 99 Problems at a campaign event, even after recorded proof was made available, and despite the fact that one has to be incredibly blind to the reality a black person running for office faces to have believed the story in the first place), and a lot of excuses for even the worst racist bullshit the Clinton campaign engaged in, but it seems to be coming from a place of utter cluelessness with most of them.

Comment #46: Grendel72  on  06/29  at  03:47 PM

“Astaire was reminding the press adulating him, that Ginger was often doing harder work”

eh i think the work was pretty much equal save for the shoes part. She wasnt doing it backwards, she was just doing it the way she learned it. Same thing for the shoes, it’s what she was used to/ trained in though I would say doing it in heels would have to be harder no matter how used to them you are. I dont wear heels though I do dance and from my perspective lifting always seemed harder than being lifted but who knows. Something about the original quote just always struck me as funny, think its mostly the backwards thing.

I loved seeing them together and thought it was cute, hope to see more of it.

Comment #47: dananddanica  on  06/29  at  08:16 PM
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