It’s one of the few disappointments of being an atheist that I know he won’t join Falwell in the eternal flames of the Hell that both sold with such conviction in life.

Good fuckin’ riddance!

Now if only Rick Warren would develop a DVT or something, we’d really be cooking with fire.

Who’s preoccupied with sex? Oh, right,  projecting again. (Him, I mean, not you)

Homosexuals tend to be preoccupied with sex.

Almost as much as rightwing anti-gay firebrands tend to be closeted homosexuals preoccupied with everyone else’s sex life.

I’ll take my spiritual leadership, whether political or religious, from someone whom I can trust not to be hiding anything.

If Hell does indeed exist, I hope they reserved a pit that was hot enough for him.

“If Hell does indeed exist, I hope they reserved a pit that was hot enough for him.”

My thoughts exactly. It’s not homosexuals who think about sex all day. It’s these guys (Barbera, Dobson, et al). Freakin’ wierdos.

I thought the world’s levels of douchebaggery had fallen slightly. Oh, and on behalf of my fellow psychologists, I’d just like to add that no, we fucking don’t have that opinion.

“Oh, and on behalf of my fellow psychologists, I’d just like to add that no, we fucking don’t have that opinion.”

Nobody believed you did. Weyrich is—was!—one of those people where, if you hear him say it’s bright ‘n sunny outside at high noon, you know it must be either midnight or overcast.

\“Oh, and on behalf of my fellow psychologists, I’d just like to add that no, we fucking don’t have that opinion.\”

Weyrich meant competent ones.

Paul Weyrich was one of the founders of the Heritage Foundation and at the time of his death

Well, I hate to say it but…..it serves him right for stealing and drinking the vault copy of my precious bodily fluids (he didn’t even have the courtesy to return the Mason jar).

Weyrich meant competent ones.

By “competent” wanderer (and Weyrich) means those who consider “Jeebus said so” an acceptable alternative to empirical observation and peer-reviewed research when coming to their conclusions.

Wanderer=boring.

I’ll take my spiritual leadership, whether political or religious, from someone whom I can trust not to be hiding anything.

ThresherK, I don’t really think there are any such people, be they religious, atheist, or fundamentalist.

But yes, the ultra-religious seem especially prone to hiding parts of themselves.

The average homosexual male has _many_ more sexual partners than the average heterosexual male. (Of course, that does not reflect on homosexual females.) The modern classification of homosexuality in the DSM does not change that evidence.

http://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=partners+male+homosexual&x=0&y=0&wc=on

The average homosexual male has _many_ more sexual partners than the average heterosexual male.

Well, bully for the average homosexual male! Besides it offending your own prudishness, how does that indicate any sort of mental illness (specifically sexual addiction or obsession, which is what Weyrich was implying)?

You and Weyrich make quite a leap from statisical science to psychological science—but the Invisible Bearded Sky Man™ isn’t going to carry you over that gulf around here.

Maybe having more sexual partners makes them LESS obsessed with sex. You know, being able to go out and find your next sexual partner and have fun without a lot of ansgt surrounding holiness and Jeebusness might have that effect.

I hate carrying that Wanderer fellow over gulfs. He always looks down and wets his pants.

wanderer, why are you obsessed with gay male sex? heh even in this, women aren’t worth a mention, huh? begone, boring troll.

also, try leaving a real cite, one that we can actually read.

As people visit that grave, it will come to smell increasingly of urine.

Excuse me? Homosexuals are obsessed with sex?

If you knew nothing of scripture and had to judge the entire Christian religion (and quite a few of the other ones) on the basis of the actions and public pronouncements of its adherents, you would conclude that the entire faith was based on a slack-jawed obsession with sex.  Obsessed with other people’s sex lives to an amazing extent, but no less obsessed.  Obsessed to the point that it supplants all other morality; these are people who can live with lying, stealing, violence, cruelty of every sort—as long as the perpetrators keep it in their pants, people who really do believe, for example, that Clinton’s BJ is worse than anything the Bush Administration ever did.

Weyrich was one of those people who thought that those of us who didn’t share such an insight should be ruled by those who did.

Fry in Hell, scumbag.

atheist,

Good point; I guess it’s my wording at fault. What I tire of are those folks so certain of their certainty and infallibility, who hold forth on everyone else’s failings, and only discover humility and forgiveness as virtues after they’re found with the proverbial “dead girl or live boy” or stealing from the collection plate.

Chalk my distrust up to the “sinners sing the loudest” warning* in the bible.

(* Disclaimer: I don’t own a Bible but I think that’s in there someplace.)

You know, I would like to point out that the whole “more sex partners” phenomenon for homosexuals clearly stems in part from the fact that it’s still very dangerous to be openly gay in this country and if you’re in the closet, that means you’re only going to risk random one-night stands with strangers rather than settle down with your One True Love together in a shared living space and then have to defend why you and your “roommate” only have one bedroom.

That doesn’t mean that homosexuals PREFER anonymous encounters, one-night stands, multiple partners, casual sex or any of the other “Oooh! Evil!!” behaviors trotted out in these discussions. It means that those behaviors are, in many areas, the only behaviors they are allowed to participate in.

It’s kind of like saying that early Christians were necrophiliacs because they met in tombs and burial grounds, whilst ignoring the fact that those hidden, secret, abandoned places were the only place they could safely meet.

Duh.

I would also add that I pity homosexuals because it has to be difficult making a relationship work with so few pre-understood cultural cues to go on.

For instance, when I am in a relationship with a man, it’s a fairly safe assumption that IF we have kids, I will be the one undergoing the pregnancy (assuming we don’t adopt). If I was marrying a woman, that’d be one more dynamic that would need to be discussed and settled - which one of us has the baby? If we have more than one baby, do we take turns? Etc. I should think that when you increase the number of issues to be settled, you increase the number of people you need to date before you find someone “perfectly” compatible (or close enough, you know what I mean).