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Are the characters on “Breaking Bad” losing their direction?

Important update: Matt Zoller Seitz has corrected the page to explain his long-shot theory of what's going on with Hank and Walt.  He originally wrote "Gus" instead of "Walt", but clearly he meant Walt, and it's been corrected.

Second, I want to highlight the idea that Hank isn’t blissfully ignorant of the possibility that Walt is Heisenberg, but is in fact banking on it, and is trying to rope Walt via the law enforcement version of a long con.

I love the idea of Hank playing Inspector Porfiry Petrovich to Walt’s intellectually arrogant Raskolnikov. I wouldn’t put it past this show to set Hank up as a guy who habitually fails to see what’s right in front of him, only to reveal later that he was just playing dumb all along. “Breaking Bad” is filled with characters who do slightly mystifying things for reasons that are explained in detail later, after they’ve gotten what they wanted.

I think my point stands. I don't think Hank is onto Walt, because if he was, the logic of the show would break down completely. The point of Walter White is that he's the last guy on earth you'd expect to be running a meth lab. There's been very little indication from Hank that he thinks of drug dealers as anything but the scum of the earth, which makes the cognitive dissonance of assuming this about a beloved family member---who I may remind you, pays for Hank's physical therapy---too great a burden to bear. 

Spoilers.*

I love reading Matt Zoller Seitz on "Breaking Bad", but sometimes I just have to strongly disagree with his unspoken assumptions on characterization.  His recap of "Breaking Bad" this week describes many of the characters' choices as out-of-character, and he thinks that means there's another shoe that's about to drop. I disagree. One of my favorite things about "Breaking Bad" is that the writers actually understand the characters better than pretty much anyone in the audience, and thus the characters frequently make choices that violate your expectations, but when you think about it, they make perfect sense given what you know about the characters. In other words, they act like people in a way that TV characters often don't.  (Even my beloved "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" had characters that were more hyper-real and perfect than real people are.) As surreal as the plots get on the show, the characters' very humanness keeps it grounded. 

There are two choices Matt sees as out-of-character: Jesse's choice to blame Walt for Brock's poisoning, and Gus's (possible) choice to poison Brock to get the upper hand over Jesse. In fact, he's so skeptical that Gus would poison a child with ricin that he argues that it basically didn't happen, and that there's another explanation that will become clear in the last episode. I disagree.  I think both choices make sense, given what we know about the characters. Let's take it one at a time. 

1) With Jesse, I think the key to understanding how quickly he blamed Walt depends on a couple of factors. For one thing, the Walt we're seeing onscreen now has become more sympathetic than the Walt a few episodes ago. He had an emotional breakthrough regarding his son and his conscience is starting to creep back. He's remembered that he's a family man, and that should be more important than his own massive ego.  But Jesse hasn't been witness to any of this, since they haven't been speaking. When Jesse last spoke to Walt, Walt was at a moral and emotional low point in his life. He had become quite naked with his willingness to manipulate Jesse, and for all Jesse has known, it's gotten worse. Jesse is acutely aware of how much of a control freak Walt is, and so, with a little added paranoia and emotional peaking, it's easy to see how he could leap to the conclusion that Walt would really go this far. Plus, as far as Jesse knows, Walt is the only person who knew about the ricin. I think Matt's hope that Brock isn't sick from ricin poisoning is a stretch; they went out of their way to make sure that Brock had the symptoms and treatment of someone suffering from that. The CDC has a breakdown of how ricin works, and you'll see that the show's portrayal of it is accurate. Remember, too, that Jesse thinks Walt called the DEA in on the plant, putting him in direct danger of being arrested and put away for roughly forever, which looks pretty vindictive from Jesse's point of view. 

One more thing: Jesse is talked out of his belief that Walt did it fairly easily, which shows that he only half-believed it anyway. The show wasn't really arguing so much that "Jesse sincerely believed Walt did it" as they were arguing "Jesse got it in his head that Walt did it, because no one else knew about the ricin, but he couldn't really imagine Walt doing it, so he was talked out of it." Jesse demands that Walt admit it when he comes over to kill him. He wouldn't have done that if he was sure of Walt's guilt---if he got Gus in a corner, it's unlikely he would be raising the burden of proof to "allow" himself to shoot Gus. 

2) Gus would kill a kid. I don't think that's disputable at this point. The cartel-killing episode was there to served a number of functions. One was to take the cartel out of the picture in the most entertaining way possible, but it was also to show that Gus is one crazy motherfucker. In case this wasn't obvious, the scene where Jesse has to fetch a bag of blood and sees one labeled for himself proves it, to Jesse, if to no one else. They've gone to great lengths to show that Gus is a childless bachelor who seems to have no real friends.  He is purely invested in winning and will go to great lengths to beat anyone he sees in opposition to himself.  He was willing to risk his own life to wipe out the Mexican drug cartel's leadership. You get the impression he gets off on manipulating these situations and people's assumptions. The other thing the cartel scene showed is Gus is has a firm hand with the poison himself.  Remember: out of Walt and Gus, only one of them has successfully poisoned an enemy to death. 

There was one detail with the cartel-poisoning sequence that struck me as interesting and not accidental, as well. It was the presence of the strippers and party girls at the party where everyone is poisoned. Now, if I recall correctly, all of them escaped with their lives. But the director went out of his way to show them fleeing the scene in terror, driving home the fact that they are basically innocents who happened to be there on a bad day. I think you're supposed to realize Gus put them in danger of poisoning, as well, and just got lucky he didn't have innocent blood on his hands.

Not that he would care, of course. Gus threatened to kill Walt's son and daughter, who are just as innocent as Brock. Does anyone here think he was just bluffing? I didn't think so.

I strongly agree with Matt here:

I want to highlight the idea that Hank isn’t blissfully ignorant of the possibility that Gus Walt is Heisenberg, but is in fact banking on it, and is trying to rope Gus Walt in via the law enforcement version of a long con.....

I love the idea of Hank playing Inspector Porfiry Petrovich to Gus's Walt's intellectually arrogant Raskolnikov. I wouldn’t put it past this show to set Hank up as a guy who habitually fails to see what’s right in front of him, only to reveal later that he was just playing dumb all along. “Breaking Bad” is filled with characters who do slightly mystifying things for reasons that are explained in detail later, after they’ve gotten what they wanted.

It's a funny idea, but I think it's beyond dispute that Hank thinks Gus is Heisenberg. The German corporation thing doesn't change that. I think it's clear Hank's theory is that Gus is Heisenberg and that this German corporation is an investor in Gus's operation, which is close enough to the truth. The only thing that Hank doesn't see is the role Walt plays in all this. Matt has routinely complained about that aspect of it, because Walt is such a bad liar, but this is where I think the show's writers grasp its characters better than even the smartest members the audience. There's just no way that Hank would see Walt as a meth cook unless there was overwhelming evidence presented to him. The show has gone out of its way to show Hank as a really sharp guy with a good sense of intuition, but with one major blind spot: Hank sees people who deal drugs as The Other. He routinely calls them "scumbags" and other colorful nicknames, and doesn't regard them as fully human. As soon as he figured out that Gus was behind all this, he stopped seeing Gus as a person and started seeing him as a conniving scumbag. But Walt is his brother-in-law, and Hank's desire to be close to him is so overwhelmening that it blinds Hank to many other aspects of Walt's personality. For instance, Hank doesn't seem to grasp that Walt doesn't like him very much, because Walt sees him as a dipshit. Both Walt and Hank routinely under-estimate each other. Walt, I think, has come around to actually liking Hank more now that he sees how sharp Hank really is. Hank wanted to drag Walt on his spying missions because he misses the masculine camaraderie of working at the DEA, and is trying to replicate it with Walt. Everything about their relationship pushes Hank away from seeing the realities. But I don't think he'll be carrying the idiot ball forever. One of the best parts of this show is wondering what piece of evidence Hank will turn up that will make him see Walt for who he really is. 

 

*Every time I give in and write a spoiler alert about something that's already aired, I seriously consider stopping this. It's just so condescending in its assumption that readers are literally too stupid to realize that if they are DVR-ing a show, it's on them not to read recaps that spoil it. It's treating your readers like children. Of course, YOU SPOILED IT people act like children with the temper tantrums, so perhaps it's an age-appropriate response to their ability to take personal responsibility to avoid spoilers instead of expect the entire world to avoid discussing a show because they haven't seen it yet. 

I'm always a season behind on "True Blood". My response to this is to avoid spoilers by assuming anyone writing about an episode that has already aired is going to reveal plot points. I don't read their writing about a show I haven't seen and then scream "SPOILERS" in comments, like an idiot who grabbed the cookie and then yelled at you when it was discovered to have sugar in it. 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 08:28 AM • (31) Comments

There was a fairly mammoth spoiler in the weekly Ain’t it Cool News Breaking Bad thread, but about the next episode, which apparently everybody clicked on despite the person describing it as a mammoth spoiler. I mean, I clicked on it too, and it was definitely truth in advertising.

It all involves Reese gluing Malcolm’s buttcheeks together while Dewey kills a guinea pig with his bare hands.

Comment #1: norbizness  on  10/03  at  10:04 AM

I think spoiler alerts have value on sites more concerned with entertainment, when spoilerific reviews and discussions share space with non-spoiler show news and rumors.  I think it’s fair to assume that, should you bring up a pop-culture item on Pandagon, you will be engaging in the type of in depth review and discussion that requires spoiling plot points.

Maybe take a page from the Overthinking It’s TFT podcast and declare a blanket spoiler alert for everything?

Comment #2: Andy  on  10/03  at  10:50 AM

Anyone know if the show is going to have another season after this one?

Comment #3: t-ster  on  10/03  at  10:51 AM

Six seasons and a movie!

Comment #4: Andy  on  10/03  at  11:11 AM

One more season, t-ster.

Comment #5: Amanda Marcotte  on  10/03  at  11:19 AM

My view of spoilers is that if you can’t appreciate a show/whatever that has been thoroughly spoiled, maybe it wasn’t worth bothering with to start.

Comment #6: Tree  on  10/03  at  11:59 AM

I think the last blockquote from MZS was a typo from him/Salon. The possibility I believe he is discussing is that Hank knows *Walt* is Heisenberg.

Comment #7: Dan Watson  on  10/03  at  12:25 PM

I re-watched the first episode recently and it’s fascinating to see again the meek but internally seething Walter White, as opposed to the current Walter White who is still pathetic in many ways, but the internal seething has heated to a boil and seriously compromises the “meek” when he tries to put it on.

And while Walter White has changed, and our view of Walter White has changed, I don’t think Hank’s view of Walter White has changed much at all. I think when Hank looks at Walter he still sees the high school teacher who’s nice enough but rather unworldly and could use some pointers from a manly man like Hank. (fascinating by the way to see how our perception of Hank has also changed from the obnoxious blowhard of that first episode. I don’t think Hank himself changed that much although he probably thinks so)

In other words, I don’t think it’s just the brother-in-law thing or the seeing drug dealers as The Other thing (although that is a very good point). I think the idea isn’t on his radar at all because the Walter White he sees is pretty much the opposite of the kind of person who could be Heisenberg. And we all know what Walter thinks about *that*...

This could change at any point in the future given how much Walter has been going off the deep end this season. Although I’ve got to say I almost cheered at the kitchen IED baking scene. It’s the Walter&Jesse; Assassination Squad on the road again, yay ! All is well now. Or at least, it feels as though after two stifling seasons flailing around as cogs of Gus’ meth machine they’re finally breaking free and being their own people again, however temporarily and for better or for worse. Probably for worse, but then there are still 16 episodes to go after next one.

Comment #8: Caravelle  on  10/03  at  12:37 PM

Re: my comment at #7, the page at Salon has since been updated to say Walt instead of Gus.

Comment #9: Dan Watson  on  10/03  at  01:17 PM

Agreed about Gus’s ability to do anything to “win.”

The show has gone out of its way to show Hank as a really sharp guy with a good sense of intuition, but with one major blind spot: Hank sees people who deal drugs as The Other. He routinely calls them “scumbags” and other colorful nicknames, and doesn’t regard them as fully human.

I don’t know for sure that what he says indicates what he thinks.  He would have to talk like that on the job, and sure, he’d have to believe there is a difference between his team and the other team.  But he strikes me as a warrior, not a crusader, and that mindset can lead you to realizing that the other team is made up of people who aren’t all evil.  Some of them are just there by necessity.  And this show right now is heavily focused on mixed loyalties. 

Caravelle:

I think the idea isn’t on his radar at all because the Walter White he sees is pretty much the opposite of the kind of person who could be Heisenberg.

Hank will have seen other cookers (and every other kind of criminal) who have feet of clay.  If anyone’s going to understand the complexity of criminal nature and the fact that it’s hard to keep up being a stone cold anything, it will be Hank. 

Remember how he presents himself as brave and fearless, but has panic attacks?  He has to know others have them too.  A hard mask can conceal a lot of fears, might even be an indicator. 

So I think it’s conceivable, but not certain by any means, that Hank knows and is maneuvering the investigation so that Walt evades identification.  As a long-time drug agent he’s got to have those skills already well-honed. 

He’s got to notice that every time Walt gets nervous, that’s where the best lead is.  Does he know Walt is involved, or does he just figure Walt is a scaredy cat and will always run away from anything that seems suspicious to him?  I don’t know.  He might just be going with his gut on it, not caring why.  But it’s a pattern that is probably heavily correlated with guilt or at least knowledge.

I liked how Hank egged his ex-partner into doing the one-on-one interview, getting him into the laundry with the drug dog and taking photos.  In fact I think the ex-partner knew he was being manipulated.  That’s part of a partner relationship, they push each other into things they might not want to do but need to be done.

I also like all the different poisonings throughout the show, both real and metaphorical, and the way people try to protect themselves from it.

And last week’s episode where Walt ended up underground, facing up, eyes closed, viewed through a hole just the size of the viewing opening of a casket.  Laughing thinking he’s literally dead. 

Gus’s idea of poisoning the expensive liquor was genius.  It meant that only the most trusted and valued associates in the cartel would drink it.  You wouldn’t waste the good stuff on a “whore.”  It’s as if you could poison the bonuses on Wall Street.

Comment #10: oldfeminist  on  10/03  at  02:01 PM

As for (1), nice try, but I think the characterization faltered here. Jesse would draw the most obvious conclusion, that the kid snuck a cigarette while he wasn’t watching, and it turned out to be the ricin cigarette. At that point Jesse would sink into his familiar pattern of self-recrimination and despair over all the misery he brings to others. He might want to lash out at Walt and others in the process, but he would ultimately make a beeline toward the usual guilty self-loathing that has defined so much of his character. Put differently, he would need a good deal of ‘help’ to connect Walt to this poisoning—Gus would have needed to arrange some clues/hints to give that impression much more strongly.

This part, however, is exactly how I see it:

The show has gone out of its way to show Hank as a really sharp guy with a good sense of intuition, but with one major blind spot: Hank sees people who deal drugs as The Other. He routinely calls them “scumbags” and other colorful nicknames, and doesn’t regard them as fully human.

It is, moreover, among the qualities that sets this writing and the character of Hank apart and above so much else on TV: that’s exactly the kind of rationalization that people are prone to, and cops arguably more than most people. Hank is going to have see Walt cooking blue meth with his own eyes to be convinced that Walt is Heisenberg. Period.

By the same token, if circumstances cause Hank to see Walt as An Other—as, for example, someone who is endangering Skyler or the kids in some way (that way doesn’t necessarily need to be involvement in meth)—then Walt will easily flip sides in Hank’s manichean vision and become suspect on all counts, including but not limited to being the prime suspect as Heisenberg.

Comment #11: Dale  on  10/03  at  02:48 PM

@Dale, on Jesse thinking that Brock snuck the cigarette : But Walt specifically pointed that possibility out, and Jesse said that he knew he’d had the cigarette that morning because he transferred it to a new pack, so Brock couldn’t have taken it.

Comment #12: Caravelle  on  10/03  at  03:11 PM

I agree that Hank doesn’t yet suspect Walt of meth-ing. In fact, I’m totally looking forward to the scenes where it is revealed to him, either slowly or all at once. That will be some fine damn teevee. To do a switcheroo where Hank is all “A-HAH! I knew it all along!” will be less satisfying in about nine different ways.

Comment #13: benvolio  on  10/03  at  04:13 PM

I have a little voice in my head that keeps telling me that Brock hasn’t been poisoned or at least hasn’t been given ricin by either Gus or Walt. Walt and Jesse are so paranoid at this point that I’m wondering if they are jumping to conclusions even if they are reasonable.

Comment #14: Col Bat Guano  on  10/03  at  04:38 PM

Caravelle, one way or another, if Jesse is sure about the custody of the ricin cigarette since that morning when he made the switch, then he’s left with the difficult-to-explain fact that Brock wound up with it. The theory that Brock snuck it out himself seems far more parsimonious than the theory that Walt somehow got to it, snuck it out, and gave it to Brock.

Col Bat Guano, however, makes a good point: both Walt and Jesse are deeply paranoid by now, and aren’t thinking too clearly about much of anything.

This isn’t even the least plausible aspect of the episode. The assassination plot against Gus—where it takes place, how it is meant to work, and how it fails—doesn’t hang together at all.

Comment #15: Dale  on  10/03  at  04:59 PM

Six seasons and a movie, Andy.

By the way, have you seen the British series Breaking Bad is based on? “Breakington Badlands?” It’s similar, with similar characters, but takes place in a blighted badlands in northern Wales instead of New Mexico.

British TV is so much better. They tell the story and finish it before it has a chance to get stale.

Comment #16: karpad  on  10/03  at  05:58 PM

I know whining about the show in general is off topic, but… I just don’t get the premise.  Anyone who would cook meth is already really desperate and heartless.  It’s a poison, not just an amphetamine.  Methyl groups are easy to produce but all bad news.

Chemists know this.  They know what’s poison and what isn’t.  They (usually) know all the information which is published which is wrong and which is right: Such as that study about Ecstasy killing rats in which they ‘accidentally’ used a different methyl-group amphetamine instead of what they were supposed to be studying, but the study is repeatedly brought up, but what they used on the rats wasn’t close at all to MDMA.  Which really should show how easily it is to screw up these labs and get poison instead of your target.

Comment #17: Crissa  on  10/03  at  06:10 PM

Chemists know this.  They know what’s poison and what isn’t.  They (usually) know all the information which is published which is wrong and which is right: Such as that study about Ecstasy killing rats in which they ‘accidentally’ used a different methyl-group amphetamine instead of what they were supposed to be studying, but the study is repeatedly brought up, but what they used on the rats wasn’t close at all to MDMA.  Which really should show how easily it is to screw up these labs and get poison instead of your target.
Comment #17: Crissa on 10/03 at 06:10 PM

All chemists know this and yet they continue to practice chemistry, don’t they?

And Walt really does have the knowledge.  He’s not just a high school chemistry teacher, he was an industrial chemist once.

Hank has covered for felons before—Marie, his wife.  Loyalty to family trumped cop loyalty at that point.  And that’s accepted in his circles, since he wasn’t the one to actually bail her out, a fellow cop did that for him because he wasn’t physically able at that moment.

Comment #18: oldfeminist  on  10/03  at  11:16 PM

For an interesting view of how things can go wrong in chem labs you might try
http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/how_not_to_do_it/

Authored by a chemist who is still doing the work.

Comment #19: oldfeminist  on  10/04  at  01:23 AM

When Walt went to Gus’s house for dinner, didn’t he say the dish was spicy and he couldn’t get the kids to eat it? I mean, his house is still all empty and weird, so the point about him being all alone and stuff stands. But I remember that - as well as all the ‘a man provides for his family’ stuff - as being important to Gus’s motivations. This idea that he has this history(business!) that he can’t share with his family, that they want no part of, but it is central to his core. (Did I invent this whole thing? Somebody cue it up and confirm it for me, won’t you?)

Comment #20: the duck-billed placelot  on  10/04  at  11:58 AM

I guess it’s possible that Gus really did do it, but how did Gus find out about the ricin cigarette? I don’t think there’s a plausible explanation for that, which means that the logical thing for the writers to do is have Brock’s illness be an actual illness, which is just coincidentally timed to ratchet up the tension. I don’t expect that to actually do that, but then they’ll have to come up with some kind of dumb explanation as to how Gus knew about the ricin. Secret camera in the lab kitchen is my guess.

Comment #21: SS451  on  10/04  at  01:11 PM

@21 I always found it weird that Walt and Jesse would talk openly about killing Gus in Jesse’s house, especially since Walt caught Mike bugging HIS house.

Comment #22: JilliefromChile  on  10/04  at  04:11 PM

Amanda - I ONLY watch on DVR - and I don’t expect you to mark “Spoilers”.  When I see a Breaking Bad blog post - I don’t read it until after I see the show.  Case in point - this post - I just read it today - since I watched the episode this morning before work…

Comment #23: fuzzbone  on  10/04  at  05:11 PM

This doesn’t completely clear Gus, but Giancarlo Esposito’s entire explanation as to how Gus knew something was up at the critical moment hinges on him not being the poisoner. My leaning is that Brock snuck the cigarette. It’s the most beautiful way to set off the powder keg.

I like someone’s theory that Jesse finds out Walt did it: AFTER one of the other kills Gus.

Comment #24: Mark Temporis  on  10/04  at  08:32 PM

Thanks to the DVR revolution, everyone’s watching serial dramas at their own pace. Which means people are going to want to write and discuss the show at their own pace, too. So, I think it’s helpful to specify that your post contains spoilers through Episode X. That way, readers can decide whether they want to read commentary now, or save it for later.

Comment #25: Lindsay Beyerstein  on  10/04  at  11:03 PM

Walt is not paranoid, because Gus is out to get him. Jesse is paranoid due the severe chemical imbalance caused by years of meth use,

Comment #26: PatrickNM  on  10/04  at  11:10 PM

Hank is a good decent human being, who really works for the public good. He does not reach Marge Gunderson level of ethics and morals. But he does not wish to see society degraded. Coen brothers will show people being corrupted, but also present the fact that it really isn’t that hard to be a decent person, if one sets their mind to it.

Comment #27: PatrickNM  on  10/04  at  11:17 PM

The early scenes of Hank at DEA establish that he thinks of drug dealers as The Other and talks about them that way at work. He talks about his work as “catching bad guys.”

As far as Hank’s concerned, you catch bad guys because they’re bad guys. He doesn’t need to believe the drug war has any higher purpose. There’s no evidence that he has doubts about the drug war, either. He’s not a very reflective guy.

Comment #28: Lindsay Beyerstein  on  10/04  at  11:21 PM

As far as Hank’s concerned, you catch bad guys because they’re bad guys. He doesn’t need to believe the drug war has any higher purpose. There’s no evidence that he has doubts about the drug war, either. He’s not a very reflective guy.

This. Remember his sojourn in El Paso, where he dealt with agents who were all more worldly than Hank?

Comment #29: witless chum  on  10/05  at  10:31 AM

“They’ve gone to great lengths to show that Gus is a childless bachelor….”

But do you remember the episode when Gus has Hank over for dinner, cooks some elaborate dish, and says he doesn’t get to make it very often because “the kids won’t eat it?” And we see some kind of kids’ play structure in the corner of the living room? That confused me.

Comment #30: phonaesthetica  on  10/08  at  02:26 PM

Hehe, I actually read that blog sometimes.  I remember last year being pointed at http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2010/05/14/how_not_to_do_it_acetylene_cylinders.php this entry.  So not how to do it.

Comment #31: Crissa  on  10/10  at  03:36 AM
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