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Bamboo Review: Up

Mild spoilage, nothing that you can’t get from the trailer.

Well, well, Pixar.  For a short period of time, I thought you’d hit your heyday and were becoming a weak version of yourself, with movies like “Cars” that fell into the same “fuck quality, let’s make some money” trap that sinks its teeth into most franchises, particularly those aimed at children.  (Or perhaps—-“Cars” defenders, I will confess that I had no desire to even see it.)  Little did I realize that you were just buying some time and making some cash before you went into your masterpiece phase.  For those who feared “Wall-E” was a one-off shot at true artistic expression, I’ll have you know that “Up”, while very different in many ways, is just as good. In a sense, it might be better, because while I didn’t want to run right back to the theater to see “Wall-E”, I think I’ll be doing that with “Up”. 

And thank god for it.  The paradox of the children’s entertainment business is the very thing that makes it tend towards utter crap is the thing that could give its makers the freedom to experiment and strive to make beautiful, meaningful work.  And that’s the fact that it’s a sound investment for the studios.  Obviously, some children’s movies are better than others, but as long as a children’s movie accomplishes the goal of shutting kids up for an hour and a half, especially repeatedly, then it will be a smash not only in the theater, but especially in DVD sales.  This means you don’t have to try too hard to make something great, so long as it’s distracting, as much of Disney’s output demonstrates.  But the freedom to make crap is often the same freedom to make real art.  The studio system is understandably wary of movies that have high standards for themselves, because they (quite possibly wisely) believe that modern audiences prefer their entertainment light and forgettable, and want their classics to be old.  But Pixar has made enough money that they get to tell Disney what to do.  (Rumor I’ve heard is that Pixar basically pushed Disney to make “The Princess and the Frog”, arguing that they can and should put the resources to keeping up the classic animation division.  That’s clout.) 

Without the gimmick of robots and a completely silent first half of the movie, you probably won’t get as many raves for the deft storytelling of “Up”, and that’s a shame, because I’m still trying to unpack how swiftly but completely they managed to tell the story of the elderly couple whose life together kicks off the rest of the movie.  All told, their entire life from their childhood until the wife dies is conveyed in a neat, mostly dialogue-free 20 minutes, but you end up believing in them as people so thoroughly that when the wife does die, there’s not a dry eye in the house.  And they manage to sustain that feeling for the old man’s loss throughout the movie, which is no small feat, considering the crazy twists the plot takes.  “Definitely the weepiest of Pixar movies,” my friend said as we left the theater. 

And it is, but it doesn’t buy the tears on the cheap.  Nor is it a depressing movie.  (Duh!  Kid’s movie.  It’s probably illegal now to make them too sad.)  Any movie that has an army of dogs that have collars programmed so that they can express themselves in English cannot be a depressing movie.  Everyone’s made jokes before about the stupid things dogs would say if they could talk, but Pixar takes that joke and totally runs with it, and it’s fucking hilarious.  You learn all about the up and downsides of having an all-dog army.  On one hand, they enjoy slavish obedience.  On the other hand, dogs do have attention span and impulse control problems. 


Which leads me to another lavish praise for the decision-making that went into “Up”.  I realize they have the luxury of refining the script for years while they actually animate the thing, but still, it’s pretty awesome how they get you to buy the world of “Up”, where you could lift a house off its foundation with enough helium balloons, and someone who lives in isolation could develop the technology to get dogs to talk.  They’re obviously cribbing a lot from “The Wizard of Oz”, including the way that a storm that wrecks the interior of the house creates the mental bridge to the other world (which is still in ours—-it’s supposed to be Paradise Falls), but it’s more than the escape through storms and through wind to the place where the adventures happen.  They also borrow liberally from the way “The Wizard of Oz” doesn’t waste your time trying to explain the world Dorothy falls into more than absolutely necessary to get the plot moving.  (We know, for instance, that Dorothy has to get to the Emerald City, but we have no idea where Oz is or what created it, or how she really got there.)  In general, they don’t overtell the story, relying heavily on visual cues and allowing the audience to be intelligent enough to fill in the blanks.

A quick note about the characters: I loved that Pixar went with a choice for the leads that is the sort of thing that would make your more prejudiced money people shake in their boots.  I can’t imagine trying to convince any money people that kids will line up to see a movie where a man in his 70s that uses a cane is the conquering hero.  Nor can I imagine that anyone but Pixar would have the clout to put an Asian-American kid at the center of a story, and then make his race a non-issue and avoid stereotyping him.  Beyond that, the kid character really diverts from the trend in movies where kids are not very kidlike, because they’re hyper competent, sassy, emotionally mature, and worldly, often passing adults in their wisdom.  I figure that fantasy of children is put in children’s movies because it flatters children, but Pixar doesn’t give into the urge.  Russell is a real kid—-whiny, self-absorbed, only half-aware of the complicated world of adults.  And Mr. Frederickson is a very real old man, whose age is important, but not the beginning or end of his characterization.  The movie wouldn’t have worked without the very human characters at the center of it. 

Unfortunately, the one female character in the film of any note (besides the bird) is Ellie, the deceased wife.  It’s hard to be too mad about this, because they actually give her a real personality before they kill her off, and they allow her to be an old woman, to boot, which is more than any of the Manic Pixie Dream Girls get.  It’s amazing how much of her personality comes across in the short period she’s onscreen, and it makes you long for a Pixar movie that actually puts a woman front and center as the main character.  They’re able to give us old men and whiny kids, so why not a woman? 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 10:21 AM • (55) Comments

I really, really loved this movie.

Comment #1: Entomologista  on  06/08  at  11:35 AM

I loved it too, especially the beautiful scene where the house lifts off and you are filled with joy and relief and sadness for this old man who is finally realizing his lifelong dream but without the one who shared it with him.

Comment #2: Mandos  on  06/08  at  11:51 AM

Wait, that kid is Asian?  Huh, doesn’t look like it to me.

Comment #3: Antigone  on  06/08  at  12:05 PM

(Rumor I’ve heard is that Pixar basically pushed Disney to make “The Princess and the Frog”, arguing that they can and should put the resources to keeping up the classic animation division.  That’s clout.)

Well, sort of.  Basically, Lasseter fired the guys who’d killed hand-drawn animation and brought back Musker and Clements, who had been fired by the Disney guys that Lasseter ended up firing.  It was a very ... interesting time, or so I’ve been told.

Comment #4: Mnemosyne  on  06/08  at  12:08 PM

“It’s hard to be too mad about this, because they actually give her a real personality before they kill her off, and they allow her to be an old woman, to boot, which is more than any of the Manic Pixie Dream Girls get.”

I felt like she was also the unseen anchor of the film from the opening of the present-day action until he finished the adventure book she left him.  Their relationship came across as one where she was his bridge to the rest of the world; her dreams were grander and more vivid, she was more of an extrovert, and she had a stronger inclination to trailblaze.  His attachment to the house was an attachment to what he had left of her, and his decision to fly off to Venezuela was an attempt to reconnect with her.  He’s not really self-motivated until he gets that final message from her and decides to act on it.

I did like that they refrained from shoehorning Russell’s absentee father in at the end.  It seemed way more affirming for it to be okay that his last badge didn’t act like a magic wand than if he’d finally achieved the right thing to bring his father back.

Comment #5: preying mantis  on  06/08  at  12:09 PM

We have kids, but is this supposed to be kid friendly version of About Schmidt?

Comment #6: MarkusR  on  06/08  at  12:17 PM

Well, sort of.  Basically, Lasseter fired the guys who’d killed hand-drawn animation and brought back Musker and Clements, who had been fired by the Disney guys that Lasseter ended up firing.  It was a very ... interesting time, or so I’ve been told.

“Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.”

I’m anxious to see this film. I adore Pixar.

Comment #7: Rebecca  on  06/08  at  12:20 PM

I really, really hated this movie and found it easy to be angry about the way they killed off Ellie.  Mileage, obviously, varies.

Comment #8: kaninchen  on  06/08  at  12:26 PM

I didn’t like Wall-E, but I did love this one.  It has emotion without having to resort to blows to the skull, it had adventure that was more on the wonder than danger side of things, and I can’t imagine anyone not liking it.  And that’s very rare for any picture these days, much less something supposedly aimed at children.  (Big non-spoiler: it isn’t.)

Comment #9: 3letterjon  on  06/08  at  12:28 PM

I felt like she was also the unseen anchor of the film from the opening of the present-day action until he finished the adventure book she left him.  Their relationship came across as one where she was his bridge to the rest of the world; her dreams were grander and more vivid, she was more of an extrovert, and she had a stronger inclination to trailblaze.  His attachment to the house was an attachment to what he had left of her, and his decision to fly off to Venezuela was an attempt to reconnect with her.  He’s not really self-motivated until he gets that final message from her and decides to act on it.

Yes, absolutely.  Ellie was a more-developed character than a lot of others that don’t get killed off, and her presence, to me, was no less real even with her death early in the film.

Took my daughter to see it yesterday, she’s seven.  She told my wife, “sometimes it was sad, sometimes it was scary, and sometimes it was funny.  I really liked it.”  Simple, but obviously effective strategy for making a movie.

Comment #10: Stephen Suh  on  06/08  at  12:33 PM

Let me just point out that it’s *not* a kids’ movie.  It’s rated PG (for peril and action). 

Pixar’s movies are generally at least a couple of notches above other studios’ in terms of story and content.  They’re not just stand-up with colorful, badly animated characters.

Comment #11: Claire  on  06/08  at  12:34 PM

I loved this movie, but my son cried through the whole thing.

Ellie is very real, and she dies.  Then they revisit the death.  That loss is real and painful and drives the movie.  It made my kids cry…and I think that’s a good thing.

What is it they call that?  Oh yeah, EMPATHY.

I love when Russel is talking about his dad, and how they played a silly game, and how that’s probably boring, but it’s the boring times you remember.  Being there for the boring times is important.

It’s not a sad movie though, cause PUPPY PILOTS!

But it’s dark, as the best childhood stories are.

Comment #12: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  06/08  at  12:37 PM

“Cars” defenders, I will confess that I had no desire to even see it.

I haven’t seen it either, but my brother (whose judgement I have come to trust) thinks it’s great.  FWIW, so do his kids.

Comment #13: BABH  on  06/08  at  12:37 PM

This review and Mark Kleiman’s reaction have convinced me that I have to see this. The trailer did nothing, NOTHING to sell me on this film, which is sad. It wasn’t a bad trailer, mind you: it looked like a pretty good kid’s movie, but I go to so few movies these days that it didn’t make it onto my shortlist.

Comment #14: Comrade Mary  on  06/08  at  12:38 PM

We loved this movie!  It pretty much had me during the first scene, then I went along with the ride!  But when the dogs started talking, and in the middle of a conversation you get “SQUIRREL!”, I was done for =)  Bravo Pixar!  I was a bit surprised as to how they animated Kevin…typically a lot of an animated characters personality is expressed with the eyes…but Kevin’s was expressed by her actions (very clever).

And the detail!!!!  I will want to see it again just to pay attention to the fine details:  the texture of cloth, the translucency of the ballons, fur, feathers, whiskers…amazing.

Comment #15: orangelion03  on  06/08  at  12:40 PM

Great review.

My girlfriend dragged me to see it last weekend. I appreciated Wall-E for what it was, but animated films have never been my cup of tea, and I didn’t really enjoy it all that much. I was pleasantly surprised with Up, and enjoyed it much more than Wall-E. But we had to rush to see a late show and frankly, I was really tired and semi-drunk at the time so I didn’t get to appreciate it as much.

Then my girlfriend lost her job under very unfortunate circumstances beyond her control this past Friday and when she said she wanted to see Up again, even though I really didn’t want to see it again, I didn’t let her know that because I knew how sad she was and wanted to do anything to make her feel better. The second time, however, I REALLY enjoyed it. I saw and appreciated so much more of the depth and feeling of this film, and noticed all kinds of things I didn’t pick up on the first time.  On the way out, I told my girlfriend that every time I hear people say an animated movie is good for both kids and adults, I don’t really believe it, or rather, I think that it’s really good for kids and only tolerable for adults. This is the first such film I’ve seen that not only do I believe it, but genuinely feel that it’s actually better for adults.

What a magnificent achievement.

Comment #16: Epsilon82  on  06/08  at  12:42 PM

kanichen, I hated the short as well.  I didn’t see any reason to reinforce one of the most stupid myths in existence (read kanichen’s link if you want to retch.)  Plus, it wasn’t even that funny.

However, I think I can enjoy a movie in spite of the fact that a woman dies.  And although I liked her a lot more as a character than her husband (probably because she talked and was definitely more attractive/cute, which is shallow of me,) I came to like them both a lot.  There was a lot of stereotyping in the life montage, but there was also a lot of real emotion and character.  There were dreams, and dreams smashed, and dreams deferred until it was too late.  Kind of like real life.  The loss of a wife and the fulfillment of a childhood dream aren’t exactly sexist things that only exist because of the patriarchal power structure.  Many women live out their dreams when the husbands leave, too.  And if you want to see a movie about that, there are many.

Where I disagree with you is not in your disappointment that Ellie dies, but in your framing of that as a conspiracy to keep women, especially ones with Ellie’s bio, silent and out of the way.  I don’t see that in this film, I think you projected that into there, and in the end I just have to disagree with you about Up.  But I’m with you all the way about the stupid cloud and stork bullshit.

Comment #17: 3letterjon  on  06/08  at  12:52 PM

Another couple of comments:

The first scene could have easily been a stand alone short film.  End it with him flying away in the house and it could have been perfect.

The trailer for “The Princess And The Frog”:  I turned to my habibti and whispered “It’s about time!”

The “lost” explorer,  his dirigible, and his army of dogs reminded me of Jonny Quest (as did a lot of “The Invincibles”).  In a good way.

Comment #18: orangelion03  on  06/08  at  12:53 PM

The problem with the trailers and all that for Up is that it really doesn’t let you know about Elly, which is the core of the story. Mind you, I don’t see how they really could, but all the same, at least for me the whole thing totally blindsided me.

When he goes back through the book at the end of the movie? I was bawling.

Comment #19: Karmakin  on  06/08  at  12:58 PM

For anyone who hasn’t heard, Pixar has (or will have) a film in development with a female lead. Here’s the quick run-down: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_and_the_Bow (a Google search also netted more info.) I hope it’s decent, though I’m disappointed that Merida is yet another friggin’ princess. I’m hoping it’s just a way in to a more subversive film.

Comment #20: sharlit159  on  06/08  at  01:00 PM

My 13 year-old son and I spent the day together, as the elder son was off playing D&D;with his father, and we didn’t feel like staying home.  He asked if we could see two movies, and I let him choose both.

We saw Night at the Museum: Battle at the Smithsonian first, which was just under two hours of over the top fun.  I generally find Ben Stiller lame, but both Night at the Museum movies have amused the hell out of me, and it was a treat to revel in a bit of total ridiculousness with my son.

After lunch, we saw Up.  My son clutched at my hand, wept right along with me, laughed his ass off at Russell (“OMG, he’s just like SHANE!”), made smart-assed remarks about the dogs, and got all snuffle-faced with me when the house landed by the falls.  “Oh, wow, Mom.  He thought about his best friend that whole time!”

Yeah.  That’s what I got out of it too.  Not that women are supposed to only be wives or that they’re only good for having babies, or that they should be invisible, or that the broad had to be bumped off so the fellas could go have their adventure, or whatever the myriad other complaints I’ve seen are.  What I got out of it was that Ellie was Carl’s best friend, his partner in adventure, that he respected her, loved her, and missed her terribly when she was gone.  His flight didn’t seem to me to be a “boys’ adventure” so much as a love letter to his beloved partner, a way to communicate with her just a little while longer.

Comment #21: MaggieB  on  06/08  at  01:05 PM

They’re able to give us old men and whiny kids, so why not a woman? 

As you wish:

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The Bear and the Bow[/url]

Comment #22: Michael Clear  on  06/08  at  01:21 PM

I saw this with my father and my three-year-old son, and we all loved it, though it also scared the bejeesus out of my son, who sat on my lap, trembling and clutching my hand through most of the movie, then rattled on about it with great enthusiasm for days after we left the theater. For those with very little ones, there are some pretty intense thunder storm scenes and snarling dogs. My kid can be really scared at a movie, but not get nightmares, but if you have one who is more prone to nightmares, just a little warning.

I do wish they would make a movie with a girl protagonist like Ellie - with skinned knees and adventures and bossing around the boys - but I didn’t feel that typical “of course they killed off the woman” feeling with this movie. Her presence is very much alive. Maggie put it very well:

His flight didn’t seem to me to be a “boys’ adventure” so much as a love letter to his beloved partner, a way to communicate with her just a little while longer.

Comment #23: chingona  on  06/08  at  01:25 PM

“The loss of a wife and the fulfillment of a childhood dream aren’t exactly sexist things that only exist because of the patriarchal power structure.”

I think it’s mitigated hugely in this movie by the fact that he’s largely fulfilling her dream, not his.  It was a shared dream, yes, but the first time you meet Ellie, she’s got the same house rigged up in the same damn way.  He’s given 24 hours to come up with a plan, and what he reflexively reaches for is what his wife would have done.

Comment #24: preying mantis  on  06/08  at  01:28 PM

Yeah I’m harsh on Up, possibly more than it deserves on its own merits.  But in the context of the nearly all-male Toy Story movies, the dead mother and Dory in Finding Nemo, the non-verbal infant in Monsters Inc., the male voices for female insects in A Bug’s Life, the descent of EVE from kick-ass trigger-happy destructo bot to damsel in distress—lemme catch my breath here—and feeling already as though I was in the wrong theater what with the Toy Story 3 trailer and the Partly Cloudy short, I was disinclined to trust Pixar to do well by their women characters.  I felt like they were dangling something shiny in front of me and yanking it away to make me cry.

Obviously this puts me in the minority.  But I already knew that.

Comment #25: kaninchen  on  06/08  at  01:44 PM

kan, exactly.  That Pixar doesn’t have movies with female protagonists is problematic, but that doesn’t mean that any individual movie with a male protagonist is bad.  This movie can be great on its own merits.

Comment #26: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/08  at  02:14 PM

And it did have its subversions.  Russell’s father abandons him, but that doesn’t ruin Russell.  Carl and Ellie don’t have children, and it’s not the end of the world, though it is sad.  Ellie is a friend and an equal, not a baby-machine helpmeet.  I realized how rarely you see real love onscreen, since so often it’s portrayed as “he fulfills he need not to be single/she works well as cunt/baby maker/social organizer/housekeeper”.  Onscreen couples often barely like each other, due to the Hollywood cliche about how men and women are different species.  Real love is refreshing to see onscreen.  Old people who are still sexual/romantic beings, and it’s not a joke?  When was the last time anyone saw that?

Comment #27: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/08  at  02:16 PM

Really one of the main reasons that I want to see this film (but I won’t be seeing many mainstream box office films until Seattle Int’l Film Festival dries up) is the talking dogs in the previews.
“SQUIRREL!”

I will come prepared with Kleenex.

Comment #28: Danica Lefse Queen  on  06/08  at  02:19 PM

Antigone: Russell was modeled after Pixar animator Peter Sohn, who was the voice of the rat in Ratatouille.  You can see a picture of him here, on the left.  You’re far from the first person to miss that, which says tons not about you, but about how our society has conditioned audiences to think of white as the default, and to want giant signposts in the way of stereotypes to show that someone isn’t white.

Comment #29: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/08  at  02:29 PM

I just liked Russell as a brutal deconstruction of the “fat, incompetent comic relief kid” type that’s been rattling around in movies forever. The movie treats Russell that way for the first half, then forces Carl (and, by extension, the audience) to remember that this is a real person who is acting out of motivations that are not only no less valid than Carl’s, but in fact are almost identical to his own.

(Russell isn’t going to win back his father’s love by becoming a Senior Wilderness Explorer. To a grown-up, that’s a meaningless achievement, and Russell’s Dad is too busy running around with a younger, prettier woman to want to be reminded that he has a son. Russell misses his father no less than Carl misses Ellie—and there’s no way that a kid his age can realize that his Dad doesn’t deserve it.)

Comment #30: Llelldorin  on  06/08  at  02:45 PM

Russell was modeled after Pixar animator Peter Sohn, who was the voice of the rat in Ratatouille.

Not the main rat character (Remy)... that was Patton Oswalt.

Comment #31: Danica Lefse Queen  on  06/08  at  03:35 PM

I have only seen the previews, maybe I’ll pick up on it when I watch the actual movie.  But, yeah, it does say tons about me that I haven’t overcome my environment to the point where I still go “default = white”.  And none of it is good.

Comment #32: Antigone  on  06/08  at  03:47 PM

I cannot get behind Wall-E as art.  I find the Eve/Wall-E relationship entirely too disturbing. It’s really not a movie I want my kids watching.

This is a kids’ movie. It bothered me greatly that the “romance” between Eve/Wall-E consisted in large part of 1) her mostly rejecting him before going unconscious; 2) him dragging her unconscious body around and having dates with it; 3) when she learns that he’s been dragging her unconscious body around and having dates with it, she finds it sweet.

Seriously, Pixar…WTF?

Wall-E—it’s a date rape movie for kids.

Comment #33: Dawn  on  06/08  at  03:48 PM

“I have only seen the previews, maybe I’ll pick up on it when I watch the actual movie.”

It’s way more obvious in the movie itself and in stills than it is in the previews I saw.  The shots of him in the preview tend to be either from the side or with him wide-eyed in terror and completely windswept.

Comment #34: preying mantis  on  06/08  at  03:59 PM

I see where you’re coming from, kan and sharlit.  It would be nice to see a kid’s movie about a girl who isn’t a princess. just an ordinary girl and what she does.  Like NPR Monkey See’s letter Dear Pixar, From All The Girls With Skinned Knees.

Comment #35: Blue Jean  on  06/08  at  04:02 PM

&*($!  I mean “All The Girls With Band-Aids On Their Knees.”

Comment #36: Blue Jean  on  06/08  at  04:04 PM

Just a few things:

  As much as I yearned for a living female presence in the movie I am glad that they did not go with some of the typical Disney stereotypes just to throw a girl (or woman) into the mix. Ellie was a pervasive force throughout the movie and, honestly, I do not expect perfection from mainstream films. For some reason, I didn’t want to tear this film to shreds the way I would pretty much every other film I watch (a trait that drives my partner to distraction).

  I did cry at a few points in the movie, which is unusual for me because I feel emotional content in many films is so transparent it falls flat. The scene in the doctor’s office when they learn they’ve either lost a baby or can’t have children struck home. My partner and I cannot have children (biologically) and have come to the same type of balance in our lives. WE are the family and we share as much of our time with other people’s children as we can afford but for all intents live for each other. We both saw some of the same future for ourselves in Ellie and Carl, that one of would be gone and the other would be alone and devastated.

  On a happier note, Russell rang true for entirely different reasons. I was a camp counselor during a few summers and remember some of those exact words and actions from my kids (5-7 years old). They would go from gung-ho adventurer to tried, hungry, bored and having to pee in about five minutes. They did not care about your blisters, cramps or other problems; they wanted what they wanted when they wanted it and didn’t really give a rip shit about much else. They were alternately loads of fun and annoying as hell, usually within about a span of ten seconds.

  The fact that Dug was a dead ringer for our beloved golden retriever mix (Dug is perhaps a little smarter) capped it for me.

  Yes, I had to turn off the critical/analytical part of my brain at a few points, but it was much less often than with most movies and I didn’t feel as guilty about doing so. Great review Amanda!

Comment #37: HooksInMyHead  on  06/08  at  04:05 PM

The scary thing about Pixar is that even “Cars” is really good.

The animators seemed to be aware that having Ellie be dead for most of the film was problematic, which is why, in the opening sequence, Ellie does all the talking and Carl is silent.  Pixar has gotten better about including female characters in its movies—Dory in “Finding Nemo” is my favorite, because it’s so rare for movies to let female characters be genuinely funny and silly—but it’s still not great.  A lot of Pixar movies are, at the core, about fatherhood, and are made by guys drawing on their experiences as little boys and as dads.

“The Bear and the Bow” will be not only Pixar’s first movie with a female protagonist, but its first by a woman director, Brenda Chapman.  She’s one of a group of new directors the company has recently brought on board; all the Pixar films to date have been directed by the same four guys.  I’m very interested to see what the new directors do.

Comment #38: Shaenon  on  06/08  at  05:09 PM

My boyfriend and I both went to school together for screenwriting so we had a discussion about the lack of ladies. Sometimes a screenplay can be like a math equation. The audience will react differently if something happens to a woman then if the same thing happened to man. We had an exercise where we had to write a play as a group & we decided one character had to be male because their storyline involved an unfaithful spouse & everyone felt a man getting cheated on is funny while a woman getting cheated on is sad. Grumpy old man works much more than grumpy old woman. Also, what makes Ellie & Carl work so well is that she is the adventurer & he’s the followers so her death promps him to finally be the adventurer she was. If he passed, her tying balloons to the house would not be as powerful & if none of them passed the whole story would be less powerful.
As for the little boy - I feel like a little girl traveling alone with a grown man may seem a little taboo in today’s society. Like someone could say, “what about a spunky little girl, could remind him of Ellie” & have someone shoot it down with “A young girl alone with a strange old man?”
Wept during this movie, though. My boyfriend cried too. Tear up just thinking about it now. Pixar has done this to me before. That song about the cowgirl doll in Toy Story 2 (I believe it’s called “When She Loved Me”.) I start crying five minutes before that scene in anticipation.

Comment #39: AmandaPanda  on  06/08  at  05:19 PM

I think it would take a heart of stone not to cry during the opening sequence of Up. And the little artistic miracle about that is that it doesn’t feel the least bit manipulative. It’s just how life is.

Comment #40: Steve LaBonne  on  06/08  at  05:32 PM

AmandaPanda, Oddly enough, I don’t think movies that cut against the grain you cite helps much matters.  I mean, The Professional?  It certainly tickles my kiddie pornish signals, and probably does that to many others as well.

Comment #41: shah8  on  06/08  at  05:35 PM

Off T:  Dawn, exactly.  The creepiness of Wall-E’s relationship with Eve killed the movie for me.  this article also explains it pretty well.  If Devin (the author of that piece) were introduced to the Nice Guy(tm) trope, I think it would click.

On T:  Maggie’s description of Carl/Ellie got me a little choked up already, and I’ve only read reviews, so we’re definitely going to see it.

Comment #42: NY Expat  on  06/08  at  05:50 PM

I was recently surprised to learn that Cars is loathed, or at least considered far and away the worst Pixar movie. What’s up with that? Do people just hate auto racing and can’t stand to see a movie about it? I’d rather watch just about anything than a Nascar race, which is little more than a left turn that lasts for hours. How much driving skill do you need to make a left turn? I find clothes tumbling in the dryer infinitely more interesting. But still, I think Cars is a very good movie and Pixar’s best. The story is well-conceived and well-told —very pro-nature, pro-social diversity, anti-materialistic—the animation is often beautiful and it has a great soundtrack. And germaine to much of this conversation, one of the main characters is a strong female. I don’t mean to be argumentative. I’m genuinely curious. What don’t you like about it?

I enjoyed Up for the same reasons as everyone else (preying mantis’s take is great), but I mostly forgot about it soon after leaving the theater.

Comment #43: chuckling  on  06/08  at  06:40 PM

What don’t you like about it?

I don’t hate Cars or anything, but I can see why it has the reputation it does. The animation is great as usual, but the plot, character types, and pacing seem like so much paint-by-numbers feel-good Disney blandness compared to a wittier Toy Story or Monsters, Inc. Cars isn’t a bad movie, but it could have come from a lesser studio than Pixar, which is what I think bothers people.

Comment #44: junk science  on  06/08  at  06:58 PM

..and it [Cars] has a great soundtrack.

Uh, yuck.  When the warmed-over version of an unmemorable pop song, sung by some generic, screechy contemporary country starlet, started about five minutes into the movie, I was outta there.  I was like, “Whoa, where’s the clever songwriting that is always present in a Pixar film?”

It wasn’t horrible, but it wasn’t Pixar quality at all.

But, as someone above said, “Mileage may vary.”

Comment #45: adobedragon  on  06/08  at  07:06 PM

When the warmed-over version of an unmemorable pop song, sung by some generic, screechy contemporary country starlet, started about five minutes into the movie, I was outta there.

Sheryl Crow was 44 years old when Cars was released, and had been popular for more than a decade. In what sense is she a “generic, screechy contemporary country starlet”? “Real Gone” was, as far as I know, an original composition for that movie.

Comment #46: Llelldorin  on  06/08  at  08:38 PM

I don’t mean to be argumentative. I’m genuinely curious. What don’t you like about it?

I wasn’t too fond of Cars but my husband and most men I know really, really liked it.  It seemed to speak to them on some subconscious level about breaking through to a better, less traditional view of what being an adult man should/could be.  It’s one of the few movies out there where the male protagonist matures through his relationships with other people and not because of the adventures he encounters.  The traditional markers of male success aren’t just rejected, they’re actively subverted at the end of the film.  (Trying to avoid spoilers here, but I think you know what I mean.)

If that’s what men and boys are getting out of it, then I don’t really care that it didn’t speak to me.  Not every movie is about me.  grin

Comment #47: Mnemosyne  on  06/08  at  09:14 PM

I was recently surprised to learn that Cars is loathed, or at least considered far and away the worst Pixar movie.

My daughter and I walked out of Cars. To be fair, she was ~4, but she’d sat through other movies before without complaint—she just was bored out of her mind.

Cars really was the nadir for Pixar—I don’t think it was terrible, but it was pedestrian, and frankly, Pixar has built its reputation on exceeding pedestrian. Ratatouille was, happily, a return to form, and Up was superlative. And I maintain that Finding Nemo is one of the best films about parenthood I’ve ever seen, or ever will see, with a fundamental message—you have to let go of your kids—that I heartily approve of.

Comment #48: Jeff Fecke  on  06/08  at  11:44 PM

To me UP was good, not great.  I think WallE was better, but its hard for any animated film to match Walle (or most studio system films for that matter).  Overall UP stands up to the Pixar standard of quality, but doesn’t exceed it.  I can understand not liking it, but I really can’t understand not liking it because Ellie dies.  She is a strong and likeable character, alive or not, and her presence is felt throughout the movie. 

The short was ok, not Pixar’s best but entertaining enough for a cartoon despite whatever “evil” myths it perpetrates about storks and babies.

Comment #49: Sjt  on  06/09  at  02:38 AM

One of the central themes of Cars was the idea that individuals are born to their purpose and cannot escape being what they are, and what they all are is a collection of stereotypes.  The racecar is the jock, the towtruck is the dumb redneck, the lowrider is the cholo, the only “black” characters are a Cadillac and SUVs with huge chrome rims (who, being from the city are naturally criminals- in the end we see the small town sheriff has them in custody doing hard labor and we’re supposed to laugh at them), etc. 

The smart and pretty Porsche totally falls for the racecar despite the lack of any explanation why anyone would even tolerate the arrogant prick.  Because she’s a girl and he’s famous.  Then there’s the fangirls: Mazda Miatas, of course.

It is also a paeon to nostalgia.  Modern is bad, the Old Ways are good, combined with the vicious racial stereotyping and reactionary message that you can only be what you are meant to be makes the film despicable, really.  Hell, the towtruck, ‘Mater, has a star turn at one point demonstrating, quite literally, the joys of going through life in reverse.  It seems you don’t need to know where you’re going, all you have to do is know where you’ve been- but this can only work if you never, ever, leave the familiar.

Oh yeah, and the happy ending: it seems the best thing that can happen to anyone is to gain the approval and support of a large corporation, the oh-so-benevolent-and-kindly OIL COMPANY of all things.  Run by a stereotypical Texan, naturally.

I really expected to like Cars: I’ve always been a car nut, since early childhood.  Hell, I still anthropomorphize cars to some degree (even though I know they hate that), and I’ve been a fan of racing for decades.  And I still ended up hating Cars.

I will give it points for both animation and slapstick humor.  I had quite a few giggles and a couple of outright guffaws at various times.  During the “cow-tipping” scene (actually flatulent sleeping tractors), I actually hurt myself laughing.  So, it’s an entertaining movie for people unoffended by racial, cultural, gender stereotypes, who don’t think about its reactionary message, or who just don’t think.  Great conservative film, in other words.

Haven’t yet seen Up, but it’s definitely on my list now.

Comment #50: Chocolate Covered Cotton  on  06/09  at  03:33 AM

Other people have defended Cars so I won’t bother to toss in my two cents’ worth on that one.

You learn all about the up and downsides of having an all-dog army.

Yeah, you run into the same problems when you try to turn cats into spies. Unless you uplift them first.

Comment #51: JCfromNC  on  06/09  at  03:59 AM

I took the kids to see it last week (mine and the niece and nephew) and we all loved it.  My 3 year old was a bit freaked out by the explorer (who was a bit more explicitly twisted than you get in most kid’s movies), but even he wants to see it again.  And they all—all 4 of them—have been cracking themselves up by yelling squirrel in the middle of a conversation.

I also concur with MaggieB’s characterization of Ellie and Carl’s relationship in the movie.  Even dead, she and her dreams are really the driving force of the movie, lots more than in most other movies (animated or not).  I tend to cry at books and movies a lot anyway, but I was sobbing by the end of that montage of their relationship and again when Carl reads the rest of the adventure book later in the movie.

Comment #52: ks  on  06/09  at  09:19 AM

Thanks RobW, you nailed my feelings about CARS….my least favorite Pixar film.

(former formula car and Miata racer)

Comment #53: orangelion03  on  06/09  at  04:06 PM

All told, their entire life from their childhood until the wife dies is conveyed in a neat, mostly dialogue-free 20 minutes, but you end up believing in them as people so thoroughly that when the wife does die, there’s not a dry eye in the house.

Indeed. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I thought, okay, these folks have storytelling skills so sharp that they can pretty reliably play the audience, and putting something so incredibly sad in the first part of the movie, without even using words, just serves to underscore how refined Pixar’s technique is.

Also, Llelldorin makes an excellent point—part of Carl’s growth here is his growing empathy, and the audience feels it as well. When he’s annoyed with Russell, we’re annoyed with Russell. When Russell is revealed to be a real person, not just a stock character, Carl realizes it along with the audience. Beautifully done.

Comment #54: grendelkhan  on  06/09  at  05:59 PM

Wall-E—it’s a date rape movie for kids.

Except for the fact there’s not any raping. Really, not everything can be viewed accurately through the prism of your own sensitivities.

Comment #55: Quaker in a Basement  on  06/10  at  05:16 PM
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