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Bamboo Review: X-Men First Class

Spoilers.

So, a review of "X-Men: First Class".  Well, it wasn't nearly as good I'd been led to believe from some of the raves I read online.  I think people are so desperate for a superhero movie that actually goes beneath the surface and struggles with some larger themes that they graded this one on a curve.  But this movie had a number of major flaws that were really distracting:

1) While the lead actors were really good, the supporting cast had some distracting clunkers in it, especially January Jones.  I fail to understand casting bad actors in a movie, seriously.  There are thousands of people who want a break who are better than some of these actors. Cast one of them.  What's stopping you?  Laziness, I assume.

2) The script was really uneven.  There were a number of great parts in it, but there were an equal number of head-thumpingly stupid moments.  Some really atrocious lines, and the whole scene where the X-Men are naming themselves needed to be cut, burned, and never spoken of again.  

3) This is minor in the grand scheme of things, but was to me really indicative of how lazy this entire enterprise was.  The costuming in this movie was unforgivable, especially since they were clearly trying to borrow some of the glory of "Mad Men" and the cultural fascination with the early 60s.  As I joked on Twitter, the miniskirt was invented in 1965, but the costume department for this movie seemed to think all women in 1962 were wearing them.  It's not that I object to miniskirts.  That's just one of the most obvious problems.  Mostly the suits men were wearing and other outfits looked generic and modern, and not like the 60s at all.  This is supposed to be a stylized film.  I fail to understand why not just hire the costume designer from "Mad Men" and pay her whatever she wants.  Ditto on the hair, though the make-up was fine. 

I think in a lot of ways it was more disappointing because there was a good movie buried inside this one.  We joked afterwards that "Magneto: Nazi Hunter" would have been an awesome movie, for instance.  I don't really mind the Cuban missile crisis as a backdrop, and the action sequence where they captured the submarine was sublime.  There were lots of instances, in fact, where I just longed for the movie to live up to its potential---the bar scene in Argentina, the joke about the White Queen projecting sexual fantasies so that men believed they were real, things like that.  Above all, I really dug the underlying idea of the movie.  At the end, there is no resolution between Xavier and Magneto, and if anything, the thumb was on the scale for Magneto and his crew of badasses, while Xavier was left with the dorky white dude brigade.  Which is how it should be; audiences should be forced to take Magneto's arguments more seriously than they were asked in the previous X-Men movies, where Magneto was a purer villain and his mutant army seemed like a bunch of whiners because they were skeptical that assimilation was an effective strategy. 

In fact, I suspect there's a draft of the movie that's  much better out there, but that the studio system chewed it up and put demands on the script such as "more time with the younger mutants".  There's a lot of good in the script, especially in terms of characterizing Xavier as an overprivileged twit who can't really understand what it's like to really be oppressed, and in terms of how Magneto's status as a Holocaust survivor and an orphan makes him feel excluded from normal people to begin with.  I can definitely see why people liked it more than I did; they concentrated on the good and ignored the bad.  But I really think that audiences should demand more.  These characters clearly mean a lot to people, and the amount of money spent on these movies should buy, at bare minimum, a clunker-free script, good costumes and set design, and good acting.  I know that it's possible---"Iron Man", the first one, was put together brilliantly, even though it was fluffy on its themes compared to "X-Men".  What we need is a superhero movie that weds the deeper themes of this movie with the level of storytelling skill that was in play in "Iron Man". 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 06:23 PM • (38) Comments

I’ve read some good manga and watched some good anime over the last year or so.  I now realize that entertainment that may appear cartoonish on one level may actually have a lot of very interesting depth to it.

For example, Deadman Wonderland (the anime is good, the manga better).  It has all the cartoonish super-powers and evil villains you could desire.  But many of the characters are really interesting and there are a lot of troubling sociological and philosophical themes.  Same for Darker Than Black, Fullmetal Alchemist, Cowboy Bebop, and Monster.

In comparison, all the X-Men films (I haven’t seen First Class) fall short. 

I realize that manga and anime are both longer media so there’s a lot more space/time to show characters, so I suppose at one level I’m being unfair to the movies.  But them’s the breaks.
IMHO…

Comment #1: MikeEss  on  06/14  at  08:25 PM

I haven’t been to see it and your review is further evidence that I shouldn’t bother.  Thank you for saving me some serious cash.  Of course, all of my objections to even seeing are comic book nerd objections.

Comment #2: Spooky Skeptic  on  06/14  at  08:26 PM

The laziest part about this movie was the assumption that the audience would view Magneto as the villain just because they’ve been told he is. He treats Raven with much more decency than Xavier. He seeks to avenge his mother’s death - and while there is still a percentage of the viewing audience that views in murder as a sign of evil villainy, I’d argue that most people would find his response imminently easy to relate to. He’s also the first one to big up Hank McCoy’s newer, bluer self. Plus, he only uses his power as some means to a legitimate end, not to attempt to trick women in bars to sleep with him.

And that’s just the characterization. The only reason Darwin seemed to exist was so the camera had a black person to zoom in on when someone said “slavery.” And why did Shaw kill him? He’s supposed to be a dick, right, but didn’t he just get finished with a lecture about not hurting his own kind a few scenes back? Is it just so we can add a mercurial nature to his list of sins? It honestly did nothing to advance the movie at all…after watching Shaw kill Magneto’s mom at the beginning I think everyone knew just how tremendous an asshole he is.

The treatment of women also left a lot to be desired. It would be one thing if the casual sexism displayed by the background characters was juxtaposed against the more prominent women being active and competent in their own right, but it’s not. The only useful thing Moira does is bring in Xavier, and then she just slides into the background. Emma Frost should be The White Queen of the Hellfire Club…Shaw’s equal, if not his superior! She’s one of the few people on the planet in a position to harm him as she can make him do anything she wants, and she ends up getting him ice? What? And then even though she demonstrates she could escape at anytime by cutting through the holding room window she is literally JUST LAYING AROUND until Magneto comes in to break her out. Raven has an interesting character in her vis the beauty standard placed on women, but they go nowhere real with it and instead turn her into a one-dimensional character who has one useful moment. Also, Angel exists.

The property and the audience deserved a much better movie.

Comment #3: Big_Southern  on  06/14  at  08:40 PM

Some really atrocious lines, and the whole scene where the X-Men are naming themselves needed to be cut, burned, and never spoken of again. 

Seriously. I didn’t know George Lucas was ghostwriting this.

Comment #4: junk science  on  06/14  at  08:45 PM

See, Big, I don’t think that Magneto was supposed to be the villain.  I think that’s why it was a tad muddled—-I think Magneto was supposed to be the antihero the audience roots for against Xavier, who is a douchebag.  But that got a little muddled, and I imagine studio notes had a lot to do with that.

The whole scene with Darwin caused an outraged reaction in the theater I saw it in.  The audience revolted at the “slavery” shot.  I do believe there was a “fuck you” from the crowd.  I concurred, making “pffft” noises.  When they followed that up by killing him, I was pissed.

Comment #5: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/14  at  09:43 PM

In fact, I suspect there’s a draft of the movie that’s much better out there

I wouldn’t be surprised.  I once talked to an actor who had read an early version of the script for “The Truman Show”, and he said it was much darker than what ended up on screen.

Comment #6: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  06/14  at  09:46 PM

It’s already been said but I’ll repeat because Darwin and the treatment of Angel was truly the moment when I checked out of X-Men: First Class, whereas my white, male geek friends LOVED the fucking movie and could not understand why I wasn’t fawning with them. For a while I felt like I’d seen one of those hidden pictures photos, except I didn’t actually see what everyone else saw.

The one black male character is killed very quickly. And the one black female character is portrayed as a stripper and then jumps to the side of evil at the first chance. The only thing that kept me from yelling what the fuck was the fact that I was in a packed theater.

And it seems like post-production spent most of their money on the raising the sub climax, cause a lot of those special effects look like something SyFy would produce. Michael Fassbender was the best thing about that movie and methinks they should’ve stuck with the X-Men Origins: Magneto film they had lined up next, though Wolverine fucked that up by being extra super shitty.

And I agree with Amanda that it seems people are fucking starved for any attempt at character development. Had this movie come out against Spider-Man 2 or Iron Man no one would be fawning like they are. As it stands, it’s come out in a summer jam packed with comic book movies, each one designed either to continue or start a franchise, so character development gets tossed out the window.

Comment #7: UltraMagnus  on  06/14  at  10:39 PM

If you want a much better take on what makes Magneto sympathetic, and what is and isn’t right about Xavier’s take on mutant activism, see Grant Morrison’s run on New X-Men.  Or, if you don’t want to read the whole thing, just read Riot at Xavier’s, a short arc in the middle that explores youth, activism, and, of course, the “fierce urgency of now”.

Comment #8: trashdog  on  06/14  at  11:37 PM

I have yet to see it, but honestly a lot of what I’ve heard kind of dampers my interest. The X-men movies have been really incredibly mediocre, which is all the more jarring compared to the other Marvel movies, where even a B-list film like Incredible Hulk or Thor is still miles ahead in plot, acting, and characterization. I’m disappointed to hear that has continued, but not really surprised.

Also, to review: Magneto is a racist terrorist. Professor Xavier is a creepy as fuck rapist.
I shouldn’t have to work hard to make the Magneto point. Dude founded “The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants” and tried to kill New York.
Professor X fewer people may be aware of his early but not-retconned-out intense romantic interest in Jean Grey (who was a minor at the time). And then there’s the issue of his later love interests (Moira, Lillandra) all of whom were never in love with him until after a “mind link” although Lillandra’s is the only one where she goes from queen of a galactic empire who is ordering the X-men killed to declaring her soul-mate status in an instant, mind link inspired change of heart.
I suppose it’s possible it’s as she described, that in the mind link, she understood him perfectly without inhibitions and saw the true man, who was someone she loved. But the other question is how could you tell if that was true?

so, yeah, I guess I’ll go see this. and Green Lantern. Because I am a goddamn moron who will support comic book movies, regardless of quality because ignoring the shitty ones does not tell them “we need to make them good” it tells the studio “we need to stop making comic book movies.” Which I would prefer not happen again (thanks, Schumaker.)

This is why I vote democratic, too.

Comment #9: karpad  on  06/15  at  12:13 AM

Eeeeh, Grant Morrison’s run isn’t canon, not really…

I personally think the very best sumnation of what Magneto really is was by Bendis in Ultimate Spider-Man in the Spidey and His Amazing Friends arc.  The trade is book 20, and comprises of 118-122.

Though you’d really have to be a comic book fan and read the entire series before this point, since forshadowing is heavily used, but just reading those specific issues should be comprehensible.

I haven’t watched the film because I’ve grown to really dislike comic book films, as opposed to 5 years ago, when I couldn’t get too upset with how bad Daredevil is…And now the latest rendition of Transformers is bumping my “Kids, git offamylawn” button.

Comment #10: shah8  on  06/15  at  12:51 AM

“In fact, I suspect there’s a draft of the movie that’s much better out there, but that the studio system chewed it up and put demands on the script such as “more time with the younger mutants”.”
If there’s a novelization, it might be based on an older script. That happens sometimes (at least one Transformers movie was like that, maybe both).

Comment #11: Devonian  on  06/15  at  01:37 AM

My wife and I saw this and Bridesmaids at the drive-in this weekend and were quite pleased with both (X-Men: B; Bridesmaids: A.  Bridesmaids was transcendent, mostly *because* of the pacing; that’s Wiig’s style, and it worked perfectly.  McCarthy was great, but the Helen/Annie scenes, and the slower pacing of them, were what made the movie uniquely good.)

X-Men will always have some clunkiness to it, if my experience from reading the comics editions are any indicator.  In that respect I thought they were pretty true to the original format (I’m pretty sure the first scene with Eric at Auschwitz was in the graphic novel “God Loves, Man Kills”, from the mid-80s), with some Malcom X thrown in for good measure.

It would take some serious cojones, but I’m wondering if Magneto’s story will become a parable for Israel and the Occupied Territories.  On the other hand, in real life someone that went through what Magneto did would be *less* likely to advocate a maximalist stance with the Palestinians:  It’s those that haven’t been in the Israeli army (Netanyahu and Yeshiva graduates) that treat war so cavalierly.

Comment #12: NY Expat  on  06/15  at  01:38 AM

I suspect January Jones acting skills were somewhat beside the point in her casting.  Her inclusion was probably largely marketing.  If you say “January Jones,” a fairly large number of potential movie-goers are immediately going to think “a smoking-hot babe.”  Since she’s best known for a role in a series that is rather distant from the comic book genre, this may tip the decision to see X-Men among a lot of non-fanboy guys who otherwise might have passed. 

Unknown actress Sandra September may be equally conventionally sexy and able to act rings around Jones, but without that name-association, that’s not going to put butts in the seats.  Unless Jones is a complete disaster (like, to the degree that it disrupted production or she’s Jar Jar Binks offensive) or her fee was so high that it excluded some who’s a bigger draw, she may have been a “good” choice even if she’s a bad actress (about which I have no opinion, since I’ve only seen her in a snippet of a Mad Men episode).

Comment #13: Scrawney Kayaker  on  06/15  at  02:08 AM

I agree with most of your criticism Amanda…But I still managed to enjoy it a bit despite being disappointed.
Its sad though, X-men had the potential to blow away all the other comic book movies. Their are so many great characters and storylines to work with. But like the last X-men movie totally screwed up the wonderful Dark Phoenix story this one came up short when it need not have esp. with the excellent choice of Michael Fassbinder as Magneto.
I wish they had started over with the whole franchise and went back to the original team: Jean Grey, Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, and Angel, with all of them as teenagers. I also was really disappointed with their treatment of Havok, who, along with Longshot, is far and away one of my favorite X-men with a really cool power. And yeah, I was disappointed in January Jones, as both an X-men and Madmen fan…I am not ready to say shes a bad actress because I respect her work in Madmen too much, but maybe the script did not allow her to show any of her talent as an actress or truly differentiate from her role in Madmen.

Comment #14: AdamN  on  06/15  at  03:47 AM

Oh and furry blue Beast looked too ridiculous when he should’ve looked awesome….

Comment #15: AdamN  on  06/15  at  03:48 AM

I just wonder why Shaw didn’t explode at the end, considering he had absorbed several minutes worth of “pure nuclear power”.  Or maybe what was supposed to happen was a wave of mutant-making energy and now a bunch of soldiers from the USA and USSR are going to become parents of new mutants.

Comment #16: boring old dude  on  06/15  at  05:33 AM

Homer: OK, we’ve got the secret vigilante handshake.  Now we need code names.  I’ll be Cue-Ball, Skinner can be Eight-Ball, Barney will be Twelve-Ball, and Moe, you can be Cue-Ball.

Moe: You’re an idiot.

Comment #17: norbizness  on  06/15  at  11:39 AM

I enjoyed the movie but I had pretty low expectations.  I actually liked the scene where the bored, teens sit around thinking up new identities.  I loved the scenes between magneto and mystique and I wish there had been more of them.  I think they could have accomplished most of the movie without, or with only passing reference, to the other mutants and focused on magneto and xavier (and mystique). 

I agree with AdamN and thought that beast looked like cookie monster with glasses.  I think they should have brought kelsey grammar back to play those bits.  Whose gonna notice if a giant blue beast looks too old? 

The biggest flaw, IMO, was killing Darwin.  I actually said something out loud in the theater because it was so stupid.  A) he didn’t have to die,  B) why cast him as 1 of 2 POC of and then kill him off - its such a tired cliche at this point and C) its completely inconsistent for Shaw’s character to kill another mutant. 

As for January Jones?  Eh, I’m jaded and just didn’t expect any better.  Although in a way, Shaw treats Jones’ character like crap is a nice foil for Magneto who truly respects her and mystique.

Comment #18: carovee  on  06/15  at  12:21 PM

sacrificial negro: check

here’s a question i haven’t seen answered yet,
why did they turn Angel Salvatore into a stripper?
what made them look at her and decide to drastically change her origin into stripper?

don’t get me wrong, i have no issues with strippers, but the choice to make her one is mad suspect.

Comment #19: cruz777  on  06/15  at  12:29 PM

Hehe.  From a geek angle, I was upset for totally different reasons.  Namely, the “first class” wasn’t even composed of the original X-men first class (with the exception of Beast).  And the mutants they use never really appear again in the other movies.

Where was a young Senator Robert Kelly?  I was honestly pissed that they killed him off so quick in the first X-men movie, as he plays a huge roll in human-mutant relations.

Where was Toad or Storm?  I think they could have put together a fairly respectable cast without grabbing Azule or (not the real) Angel as token mutants you’ll never see again.  At least throw in Harry Leland and drop the shit with Riptide.

And, of course, the script was a disappointment if only because it had such amazing potential and yet came out as a solid “meh”.

But, in the end, I watch X-men for the action.  It had lots of action and I was happy to see the action.  So I’ll consider it a favorite in the Marvel franchise if only because it ranks above X3 and Daredevil, and I will continue to hold out hope that in the “Cheap Action Blah!” versus “Amazingly Deep Action Adventure” studio versus writer wars, the writers will eventually prevail.

Comment #20: Zifnab  on  06/15  at  12:40 PM

In addition to everything else that’s been said… (caution, bitchy rant to follow)

I am not one of those people who can’t stand bad science in movies; done right, I’ll love it forever.  But because I am an engineer and know an eensie-weensie bit about biology, aeronatuics, and nuclear physitcs, this must be said.

Build a scaled-up SR-71 with a cabin big enough for 7 people and what do you get?  A plane that can’t fly.  You’d have to build enigines so big they couldn’t propel the weight of the plane.  Not to skip over the big ginormous fact that being a designer (no one person designs these things, let alone manages to swipe multimillion dollar X-planes from military bases) is not nearly the same kind of skill as being a pilot.  Working the controls versus having the reflexes to not crash are entirely different things.  You need specialized fueling crews and runways because SR-71s leak fuel like a sieve until they get up to about Mach 2.  And they can’t hover.

Plus, wouldn’t it have been an interesting twist for the X-dorks to need to rely at least a little on us poor pitiful non-mutants? (ZOMG U HAAV MUTASHON!)

Seriously, why not just invent some other wildly impossible but ORIGINAL science fiction plane?  Trying VERY halfheartedly to remain faithful to the ‘60s just ruined it.

Also, too: Mystique’s rubber suit.  They did Emma Frost and Darwin in CGI, but couldn’t spring for the possible Avatar trademark infringment on blue skin?  The suit lacked depth, expression, and just plain looked fake… it totally didn’t do justice to the character.


My mom and brother wouldnt’ let me vent at them, because they both LOVED the movie.  So I think I feel better now.

Comment #21: Caelan Aegana  on  06/15  at  01:03 PM

Build a scaled-up SR-71 with a cabin big enough for 7 people and what do you get?  A plane that can’t fly….And they can’t hover.

Normally, I’m like that for movies that are trying to be realistic or pseudo-realistic. The geologist in me loathes Volcano like no one’s business. The firefighter in me gets furious at Backdraft. The former soldier pretty much despises most movies where anyone was obviously untrained prior to filming in the use of a firearm.

But in a movie like this…well, complaining about the SR-71 in a movie where people can fly, shoot energy from their bodies, shapeshift and read minds? Enh. It’s similar to the people complaining that there’s no way Gandalf should have been able to catch up to his sword as he’s falling after the Balrog. Because, you know, in a film with gigantic flaming demons, invisibility rings, elves, wizards, orcs, a giant floating demigod who looks like an eye, and talking trees, overlooking terminal velocity and acceleration due to gravity is completely unforgivable.

(Incidentally, the Blackbird is from the comics where it was long called an adapted SR-71.)

Comment #22: KeithM  on  06/15  at  01:47 PM

The further away my viewing of First Class goes, the more racist and sexist I find the film.  The White Queen, Emma Frost, is a despicable prototype of the ‘barely-dressed sexually empowering’ women fad that Chris Clearmont invented in his late 70’s-early 80’s stint on X-Men; I usually have problems not believing that work like Sucker Punch is a great example of how his fucked up ideas shaped modern storytelling.

That January Jones completely fucked up even that fuck-up is both galling and makes me giggle.

Mystique - marginalized. MacTaggart - completely stripped of character and value.  Angel - at least she wasn’t a hooker with a heart of gold.

Comment #23: idiosynchronic  on  06/15  at  02:35 PM

“The laziest part about this movie was the assumption that the audience would view Magneto as the villain just because they’ve been told he is.”

I thought the opposite. We’re supposed to believe that Magneto came to the same conclusion as Shaw about the conflict between mutants and other humans independently. Okay, that’s what would happen irl, but really as a cohesive narrative the film should have given some reason and foreshadowing for why Magneto in particular decided that (particularly as most of his oppression was at the hands of another mutant, unlike some of the other characters), or some evidence that Shaw’s mentality influenced him during his influence on Magneto’s childhood. Otherwise it just looks arbitrary and random. “I agree with you, but you killed my mother”... it just came out of nowhere for me.

Shaw was built up as having repellant views throughout the whole thing, and I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that the audience would view a mutant wanting to wipe out and dominate an “inferior” race because it’s their Biological Destiny as villainous (Magneto’s views being basically the same in later material, he’s sometimes more of a separatist but has often tried to wage a genocidal war). You don’t need the former Nazi child torturer status to qualify him as evil, but the movie acted like it automatically made him 10 times worse than Magneto. What I was disappointed with was the lack of anything leading to Magneto adopting that view for himself, other than “it’s just how he figured”.

Comment #24: Treefinger  on  06/15  at  05:45 PM

And idiosynchronic- yeah, there are too many nearly naked ladies in this film, for obviously unnecessary reasons. The whole scene with Maya (?) sneaking into the club to see what Shaw wanted with the senator was just plain fanservice and would have worked just as well if she’d found a way in without taking off her clothes (also who the fuck wears a garter belt and stockings to work at the CIA, unless they’re bonking a co-worker?). Emma Frost I thought was fair enough as the scenes on the sub showed she wasn’t empowered at all, having to get ice for a leering Shaw and whatnot.

Darwin dying after 5 minutes of screentime was annoying beyond the racism. He would have been awesome in the climactic battle, being able to adapt to each setting. They could have thrown Banshee to the wolves instead if they really wanted someone to die.

(Despite my two posts on its flaws I actually really liked the movie. Magneto owns in every single scene he’s in, and it was a good cinematic experience, everyone in the theatre laughed along with the in-jokes and every time Oxford was shown onscreen).

Comment #25: Treefinger  on  06/15  at  05:59 PM

Ok so, I’m coming at this as someone who had never seen an X-men movie or read the comics before I saw this film.  I just went ‘cause a friend recommended it and I was bored.  I was entertained (though it did piss me the hell off that they killed Darwin, wtf?)

What I was especially interested in was how class works in this movie.  It practically determines everything that happens.  To start off with: why does Xavier wind up being the leader of the mutant group? Because he’s a rich prick who went to Oxford, basically. He’s smart, but Beast is smarter; and Magneto is older with much more life experience and so, honestly, the best candidate to lead the group. But Xavier winds up in the leadership role.

Next, consider all the reasons he and Magneto wind up being at odds.  The biggest of them is their different take on what the role of mutants should be in the world.  But that entire disagreement is Xavier’s fault, because as the leader of the group, the ONLY two possibilities he can see are to reify and defend the current human power structure, or for mutants to take over the world for themselves.  It’s not a coincidence, given his background and class privilege, that these are the only two possibilities that occur to him.  And it’s absolutely not a coincidence that he reacts so strenuously against the hint of an idea, from Magneto, that maybe the current human power structure SHOULD be challenged.

As the leader of the group, the telepath, the rich hot guy, and the less damaged of the two of them, Xavier is in a position to define the conflict between him and Magneto, in a way that Magneto isn’t.  And so the conflict becomes about whether the mutants are going to be “good” and work to keep power in the hands of rich powerful humans, or “evil” and work to claim power for themselves.  But it didn’t have to be that way—there are lots of other possibilities that could have been explored, and weren’t, because of Xavier’s poverty of imagination and inability to question the status quo.

I liked the movie despite its considerable flaws, because I found this to be a very plausible scenario for how class affects the dynamics of the group as it forms and as it splits apart.

Comment #26: human  on  06/15  at  06:07 PM

Oh and also I liked the movie because Michael Fassbender is $&#ing; hot.  I’m going to go look at photos of him now.

Comment #27: human  on  06/15  at  06:08 PM

I think I liked this movie more than you Amanda even though I agree with pretty much every point you make.  I went in with lower expectations, probably.

The biggest problem is that they try and focus on too many characters and so end up creating a bunch of forgettable roles, which is a problem with a lot of super-hero team movies.  I get the feeling that Marvel’s trying to get around this with the Avengers by giving each hero their own movie to introduce them, so we’ll see if that works.  Now they just need to find a way to make the costumes look not ridiculous on screen; Magneto at the end looked really terrible.

One thing I want to disagree on is January Jones.  Yeah, the Emma Frost character in the movie is pretty bad, but so are most of the characters who aren’t Mystique, Magneto, or Xavier.  She’s shown she can act on Mad Men so I don’t think it’s fair to put the failure of the character solely on her shoulders, like a lot of people are doing.

Comment #28: clever screen name  on  06/15  at  07:01 PM

“characterizing Xavier as an overprivileged twit who can’t really understand what it’s like to really be oppressed”

A MILLION TIMES THIS. #TeamMagneto

Comment #29: chibi  on  06/15  at  11:09 PM

I used to read X-Men, but haven’t in a million years.  I spent the movie wondering why on earth they chose this particular band of mutants (Banshee??  Really??)  I would have preferred they stick to the ACTUAL original team, but ... whatever.  The movies haven’t always been good at featuring mutants everyone is aware of or even portraying them in the proper way (Hello, Deadpool.)

It was a pretty good movie on its own, but from a former nerd POV, it’s ... questionable.  I did like Wolverine’s cameo.

That said, I did notice that the POC in the movie all became evil.  Even in Shaw’s team you had the kind of latino-ish guy.  And the good guys?  Well, a couple of blue people, but that doesn’t really count. 

I was actually kind of glad they killed Darwin, just because I was going, “Wait, who?  What?  Why??”  When they killed them, I went, “Oh.  He was someone to kill.  I get it.”  Didn’t have to be black, and the slavery thing was just ... weird.  But at least I understood why this guy suddenly appeared when they ended up killing him. 

Unfortunately, if you want to remain accurate, there just aren’t a lot of ethnic people in X-Men.  It’s pretty much Storm and a few Asian-type characters (Psylocke, Jubilee ... anyone else?)  Some guy I can picture in my head but can’t remember his name.  (I think he had something to do with Cable?  I had a lot of trading cards with all these folks I hadn’t ever seen anywhere.)  It’s pretty much Whitefest.  But that doesn’t mean you have to create black people to kill them.  :/

Comment #30: BonAppetit  on  06/16  at  01:48 AM

Ok so, I’m coming at this as someone who had never seen an X-men movie or read the comics before I saw this film.

Although it obviously depends on the writer (rather seriously) you’ve pretty much hit the nail on the X-Men since the, oh, let’s say mid-80s onward. At his best, and once he had a backstory worked out, Magneto did have comprehensible reasons for what he did, unlike the generic “Evil Team Leader” he was when introduced, and Xavier, “Good Team Leader”, was given some backstory that did actually make him out to be a douchebag from time to time and not just the always-good wise mentor he started out as.

This has had interesting consequences in stories because the good guys are often conflicted about the fact that Magneto is often right, albeit his methods of dealing with it are very wrong, while Xavier has done things that piss them off, and Magneto has done some damn heroic things they have to be grateful for (such as rescuing Kitty Pryde recently after she’d saved the planet), and they’ve sometimes had to clean up the mess Xavier has caused . It’s often very much gray and grey morality.

Comment #31: KeithM  on  06/16  at  01:59 AM

BonAppetit: You forgot about the Native American X-Man Thunderbird, who’s mutant power was basically being a stereotypical Indian Warrior - Super-strength, super-tough, could run real fast.

 

 

Comment #32: Mark Temporis  on  06/16  at  08:26 AM

“Laziness” is exactly the word I’ve been looking for.  The film kept bungling little details in their depiction of the 1960s that were not fatal, but were incredibly distracting, pulling me out of whatever enjoyment I had.  You know what little detail really ate at me? The way they kept saying “Russia” when any real person at that time would have said “Soviet Union.” There was a big strategic map in a war room with RUSSIA written over the USSR.  What the fuck? Were the writers all born in 1990, and furthermore couldn’t even ask somebody (I’m pretty sure Michael Ironside remembers the Cold War) if this looked right?  Or did they think we’re all so ignorant that we wouldn’t know what the Soviet Union was?

Again, it’s extremely minor, but to me it was emblematic of how the film’s 60’s styling failed.

Comment #33: Cris (without an H)  on  06/16  at  11:34 AM

What bothered me even more, though, was the compulsive “prequel” shit that populated the last 30 minutes of the film.  Yes, we know Professor X is going to be paralyzed—do you HAVE to do it here? We know they’re going to be called the “X-Men”—can you shoehorn that in with any more awkwardness?  We know Magneto is going to become a menace—can’t we hold off, and let the film end with that as a potential, instead of driving it home?  It all makes the conclusion feel rushed, and a little bit insulting.

In this sense, it had a lot of the same flaws as Revenge of the Sith.  Tying up all the little loose ends to make things exactly the way they’re supposed to be at the beginning just looks like color-by-numbers.  “Let’s see, we have to put Darth Vader in the suit, we have to build the Death Star, we have to send Yoda off to Dagobah and Obi-Wan off to Tatooine… should we leave this stuff to the imagination? Nah, the audience doesn’t have imagination, why else would they pay for this shit?”

Comment #34: Cris (without an H)  on  06/16  at  11:41 AM

The days when you could expect to buy a comfortable (perhaps cotton-based) bra meant to support a woman’s shape, not distort it for the sake of appearance, had not yet arrived.

Is it scheduled to arrive soon? Please say it is. I was feeling the free-floating-in-foam-cup underwire poking me right before I read that sentence.

Comment #35: colorlessblue  on  06/16  at  03:47 PM

yeah, I knew this movie wasn’t for me when I saw they cast January Jones as Emma Frost*; finding out about “CIA Agent Moira McTaggert” didn’t exactly help either. She. Is. Not. A. CIA. Agent. OK!?

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*though admittedly, I have a hard time thinking of a fierce,  “ice queen” type of blonde in the right age bracket in Hollywood right now. Dakota Fanning (based on her performance as Cherry Curry) might be a good White Queen, 10 years from now. All the mid-20’s to late 30’s blondes I can think of are of the “all american girl” type… hmm, maybe Scarlett Johansson? she made a good Black Widow….oooh, I know: Emma Stone!

Comment #36: jadehawk  on  06/16  at  08:08 PM

BonAppetit: I think you mean Forge as that other black mutant with relation to Cable (they were together in X-Factor, IIRC). You’re right though, not a lot of POCs in there. But that’s comics for you.

I wish Magneto was a little bit less genocidal, because his character would be a lot more interesting then. Being a freedom fighter that sometimes have to make tough decisions is different than being hellbent on exterminating all humans, even if you think you have a good reason to do it. How much ambiguity was in Magneto’s original characterization? I feel he might have started as a cartoon supervillain and all the grey areas were retconned unto him by later writers, which would explain the disconnect.

Comment #37: BlackBloc  on  06/17  at  03:28 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_(comics)

In a 2008 interview, Stan Lee elaborated that he “did not think of Magneto as a bad guy. He just wanted to strike back at the people who were so bigoted and racist… he was trying to defend the mutants, and because society was not treating them fairly he was going to teach society a lesson. He was a danger of course… but I never thought of him as a villain.”[12] In the same interview, he also revealed that he originally planned for Magneto to be the brother of his archnemesis Professor X.[12]

I feel he might have started as a cartoon supervillain

Magneto was born Max Eisenhardt sometime in the late 1920s to a middle class German Jewish family whose father, Jakob Eisenhardt was a highly decorated World War I veteran.[1] Surviving discrimination and hardship during the Nazi rise to power, Kristallnacht, and the passing of the Nuremberg Laws, in 1939 Max and his family fled to Poland where they were captured during the German invasion of Poland and sent to the Warsaw Ghetto.[1][16] Max and his family escaped the Ghetto, only to be betrayed and captured again. His mother, father, and sister are executed and buried in a mass grave, but Max survived, possibly due to the manifestation of his powers. Escaping from the mass grave, he was ultimately captured yet again[17] and sent to Auschwitz, where he eventually became a Sonderkommando.[17][18][19] While at Auschwitz, Eisenhardt reunited with a Roma girl named Magda, with whom he had fallen in love when he was younger, and with whom he escaped the prison camp during the October 7th 1944 revolt. Following the war, he and Magda moved to the Ukrainian city of Vinnytsia, and Max adopted the name “Magnus”. Magda and Magnus had a daughter named Anya, and lived uneventfully until one night when an angry mob burned down their home with Anya still inside. Enraged at the mob for preventing him from rescuing Anya, the young Magnus’s powers manifested uncontrollably, killing the mob and destroying a part of the city. Magda, terrified at Magnus’ power, left him and later gave birth to the mutant twins Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch before walking away to die. Wanted by the authorities for the deaths and destruction in Vinnytsia, while searching for Magda, Magnus paid a Romanian forger George Odekirk, to create the cover identity of “Erik Lehnsherr the Sinte gypsy” for him.[3]

I wish Magneto was a little bit less genocidal, because his character would be a lot more interesting then.

My grandfather was a Japanese Army POW in Shanghai in WWII, and he on more than one occasion told me he thought that the Japanese race should’ve been wiped out after they lost.

Unlike Magneto, he didn’t lose any loved ones to his captors.

Makes you think, don’t it?

Comment #38: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  06/17  at  06:02 PM
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