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Bamboo Reviews: Bridesmaids

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Spoilers! Lots and lots of spoilers.

What I expected when I went into "Bridesmaids": An over-the-top comedy that sends up the hellish wedding-industrial complex for 90% of the film, and then tacks on a happy ending to reassure audiences that they should engage with it anyway, thereby ruining all the fun of the past hour and a half.

What "Bridesmaids" actually was: An over-the-top comedy with dramatic bits that merely uses the wedding as a backdrop to explore the complexities of female friendships with deadly accuracy that makes a mockery of "Sex and the City", especially the movie.

Boy how did "Bridesmaids" not want to be a chick flick about shopping and boys.  Of course, these things are part of women's lives and women's friendships, so they are almost completely unavoidable, but the filmmakers subverted the paradigm in two very obvious and I thought amazing ways, by having the single shopping scene disrupted by the now-notorious (but as funny as advertised) food poisoning scene, and by giving the groom in the wedding exactly zero lines.  (He's permitted to mouth something wordlessly, as if to hang a lampshade on it, and that's it.)  Even the bride in "The Hangover" had a bigger role.

Not that the movie just flips the script of the dudebro comedy, where women are one-dimensional accessories.  The main male character has a personality that matters, and they actually do some stuff with him where they set you up to think he's a typical Nice Guy®, but then you find that isn't actually what he's like at all.  But let's be clear: this movie is about women, and it's a big fuck you to the Hollywood establishment that pushes women out of decent roles, and the number of women with speaking parts is easily double the number of men with speaking parts.  They have nice little touches, too, where certain characters that would be played by men in 99% of comedies (say, random person sitting next to you on a plane saying weird shit) are female, and one character---the perturbed flight attendant---that is played by a woman in 99% of movies is actually a man in this one.  Little choices like that make this movie feel fresh and different in ways that I didn't expect.

But that doesn't mean it's flawless.  In fact, I'm really sad to report that the movie had a major flaw that prevented it from really being great, which is that it was too pensive and slow-moving.  I wanted so badly for it to be an ensemble cast, since every single actress in it kills, but it was mostly about Wiig's character Annie, and how her friend's over-the-top wedding is provoking every anxiety she has about being a failure at life.  This means that there are lots of scenes of Annie being sad, Annie staring into space, Annie driving around and boring the shit out of us.  And this is all scene time that doesn't go to women making me laugh until I want to pee. 

Which is a major shame, since every scene that wasn't Sad Annie was pretty much awesome.  Every time Annie's anxieties boil over into anger or bizarre behavior, Wiig had the audience in stitches.  More than that, the rest of the bridesmaids (and even the bride) all had great turns, and you could feel the audience perk up the second that we cut away from Annie forlornly baking a cake or whatever to the promise of the other actresses coming onscreen.  It actually made the lack of screen time devoted to broad comedy painful, because those parts were so good.  I think the filmmakers cut back on some of the broad comedy and had some of the sad shit in there in order to make Annie more sympathetic, but it didn't work at all.  If they'd left it at a couple of scenes where she's goofing off with Lillian, the bride, you would have bought that she's usually not like this.  They didn't have to hammer it home with all the droopy-eyed stuff.

Melissa McCarthy was especially awesome, embodying the role that would surely be played by Zach Galifianakis if this was a typical, male-dominated comedy, except that she's a weirdo but not a loser.  If the audience perked up when the ensemble actresses came on screen, they practically cheered at the sight of her face, she was so funny.  It wasn't just that she was so good, either---the screenwriters worked in like a fat joke about her, a bizarre one that she sells well, but overall they did avoid avoid stereotyping her as the fat lady.  Comedic roles for fat actresses fall into two categories: the sap and the oversexed woman who doesn't realize she's fat.  They do play around a little with the second one, but her character is far more butch than this stereotype ever is.  We also quickly learn that her supreme self-confidence isn't delusional (and it's always portrayed in the stereotype of the confident fat woman), but well-earned, since she's ridiculously smart and built immense wealth with her own hard work. In other words, she's proud of herself because she should be. There is never a moment in the film where you could even reasonably describe her as "sassy".  Plus, and I thought this was a nice touch, she got to be butch without subjecting the audience to any kind of moaning about having to wear a dress to the wedding.  No, she got to be too smart for stupid shit like that.

I hope she starts getting better roles, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I honestly expected more negative, sexist shit after reading Michelle Dean's review, but I walked away feeling like I saw a different movie than she did. I think she was annoyed at the way this movie was taken as some big feminist event, and that made her ungenerous, but I have to push back. No one is saying that having comedies where women not only dominate but come across as human beings will change the world.  But as I've noted before, being entertained and feeling pleasure are extremely important things, and the fact that women don't get to have nice things does matter. I also want to see stuff where feminism is just assumed to be true, and doesn't have to be asserted, and this movie had some of that going on.  At no point does a character suggest that having to work for a living is some great moral dilemma for women, and female sexuality is just a given, not treated like it's bad nor presented in a protest-too-much way.  This paragraph of Michelle's in particular didn't ring true to me:

That said, even when applying the new gold standard of the Lady Film, the Bechdel test—it's now been endorsed by the New Yorker, after all—the results are mixed. I'm not sure if we can really count conversations about weddings in this movie as not being "about men"—although it's true that the province of the wedding is presented to us as women's territory. But movies like Bridesmaids presume that much of the angst that women who are not the bride feel on these occasions has to do with not being married (or at least in a stable relationship) themselves.

The Bechdel test doesn't require that female characters never speak about men, and if they didn't, I think that would be really weird.  (Unless they're lesbians and the movie is a romantic comedy.)  Women talk to each other about men.  They just talk about other stuff, too.  The Bechdel test just asks very simply that there be even a single scene where two named characters talk about something other than men.  The joke is that's a minimum requirement.  Needless to say, that minimum is met in the first few scenes of the film (Annie and Lillian talk about Annie's failed business, without even mentioning that she started it with a boyfriend, which doesn't come up until later), and it continues throughout.  Because I read Michelle's post before seeing it, I ended up mentally cataloguing topics of discussion besides men, and to make it even broader, besides wedding planning.  Characters talk about business, work, money, children, high school, what makes someone a loser instead of a winner, dogs, being brave about eating at offbeat restaurants instead of middle-of-the-road fare, self-delusion, art (well, bad art), tattoos, female friendship, travel fantasies, the shitty music you liked in junior high school, the difference between old friends and new friends, and nervousness around flying.  They also talk about sex and men, but what made it nice is that it was integrated.  You know, like real life.

Also, I don't really agree that the angst the character feels is because it's not her wedding.  Michelle admits later that maybe part of it is that she's afraid of losing her friend to marriage, but again, I don't agree.  Annie is far more worried about another woman stealing her best friend away, and her anxieties that are provoked by the wedding have more to do with the fact that she feels her friends are all growing up and moving on with their lives while she lives with her mom and doesn't have a job.  Again, they go out of their way to leave men out of it, and by the way, all three of the married bridesmaids have failing relationships. I was actually surprised how disinterested this film was in propagandizing marriage. 

So, I would say see it.  It's hilarious.  But I will also say that it should have been edited very differently, with 75% of the Sad Annie shit cut and replaced with what I bet is some hilarious ensemble comedy acting that is probably laying on a cutting room floor. Beating us over the head with Annie's dilemma was unnecessary.  I wanted to yell, "We get it!  She's sad!"  Especially since some of the comedic bits did more to demonstrate her fucked-up-ness than any pensive scene ever could. 

Also, Hollywood?  More of this, please. Kthnxbai.

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 08:45 AM • (35) Comments

Totally agreed.

What really surprised me about this movie is that I damn near cried at some scenes. Kristen Wiig and Maya Rudolph did an amazing job of playing out the sick, sad, twisting feeling of everything falling apart with your childhood best friend, the words that get flung, the way you feel like you’re going crazy because this person you love is suddenly doing and saying things that just make no sense to you. My best friend and I grew up together like that, and we’ve fought like that in the past (though we’ve long since made up). So those scenes just kicked me right in the gut.

It’s rare to see a genuine portrayal of friendship between women like that in a movie.

Comment #1: snowmentality  on  05/19  at  11:10 AM

Yeah, I don’t usually like Maya Rudolph, but she was good in this.  She also had a really hard job to do, which is convince the audience that Annie is usually not like this.  Without her pulling that off, Annie comes across as just a mean asshole who is ruining her friend’s wedding.  But you see Lillian’s genuine confusion and pain and glimpses of understanding, and so you really begin to see Annie through her eyes.  Not easy!  Well-played.

Comment #2: Amanda Marcotte  on  05/19  at  11:16 AM

Yup, I was really happy with how this movie turned out. And I was psyched to see a movie about female friendships where it wasn’t just assumed that all women were catty bitches.

And like snowmentality, I also found myself misting up.

I was surprised that Annie gets called out twice for her behavior. She totally deserved it, it’s just not something I see often in movies, and I think it made the movie better.

Comment #3: MissCherryPi  on  05/19  at  11:47 AM

You nailed all my thoughts on the movie!  I know I felt some disappointment sink in during that Introspective Cupcake-Baking scene set to Fiona Apple that felt like it went on for an eternity. (I also felt some of the scenes with her love interest dragged.)  It was entertaining as hell but I feel like if they’d committed more fully to the over-the-top comedy and ensemble cast it could’ve been a classic.

Still, from an ‘assumed feminist’ angle I had no complaints.  Not overtly political but treats women as people - complex, sad, hilarious people - by default, which is sadly refreshing in the world of mainstream comedies.  I also had reservations about the wedding theme going in, but it turned out to just be a great venue for exaggerated comic setpieces.

And as a side note, thank you for your comments on the Bechdel Test, which I’m increasingly seeing reduced on the internet to “female characters should preferably never talk about men at all.”  There’s nothing wrong with sex and relationships as a conversation topic when there are plenty of other scenes where they talk about other things.

Comment #4: NicoleG  on  05/19  at  11:53 AM

Thanks, Nicole.  Some times I fear that the pressure to live only for men causes some feminists to go too much in the other direction.  There’s nothing wrong with loving the dudes.  There’s something intensely human about the scene where Annie fucks it up with the cop dude and calls Lillian to freak out.  If you can’t talk about love to your friends, who can you talk to about it?

Comment #5: Amanda Marcotte  on  05/19  at  12:04 PM

I loved it, though my friend didn’t like the fact that it was set against a wedding. Her big beef was that she’d love to see a female driven comedy that didn’t revolve around weddings at all or women being passive-aggressive to each other (they weren’t all catty but I think the Helen character and Annie’s reaction to her turned her off). I get what she’s saying but I’m happy there’s a movie that so funny that also seems like it will be very successful. But don’t hold your breath for more female driven comedies like this, Hollywood does not like change and I’m sure there are a lot of male executives dismissing this as a “fluke”, much like when the first Sex and the City came out (the FIRST) and it did major box office and yet no one was scrambling to make more women centric films besides the pre-acceptable romantic comedies. I fear from this we may get more Katheryn Heigl movies just with poop jokes.

SPOILERS!!

One thing I was stunned but wanted to stand up and applaud was the fact that Annie has sex with two different men in a short span of time and no one says shit. It’s no.big.deal. She has bad sex with Jon Hamm and then (seemingly) good sex with the cop, and she’s comfortable with him, as suggested when she wakes up in the cop’s bed and she’s not wearing her bra, whereas with Hamm she kept it on. That may be because Wiig doesn’t want to do nudity but when I saw her later curled up without it I thought maybe it said something about her character’s comfort level with each man.

And that cookie totally had it coming.

Comment #6: UltraMagnus  on  05/19  at  12:51 PM

I’m with you on the too many scenes of Annie being sad. At first I didn’t mind the cupcake making scene, because it was showing off her talent, but it just went on and on and on.
I’ve notice there were a bunch of scene in the trailers that did not make it into the movie.  I’m really looking forward to seeing them in the DVD deleted scenes.

Comment #7: Isabella  on  05/19  at  01:08 PM

Thanks for this review, it makes me want to see it. My assumptions, based on the trailers, were even less generous than yours, so I had no interest until seeing your praise for it.

It’s frustrating how people abuse the Bechdel test.  Like you said, it’s a minimum requirement—it doesn’t say anything about the quality of the movie. The comments at BechdelTest.com are full of people who seem to miss the point that, as the TV Tropes entry says so succinctly:

[T]he Bechdel Test is not meant to give a scorecard of a work’s overall level of feminism

For goodness sake, one commenter (possibly a spoof) suggested that Black Swan shouldn’t pass because any conversation about the ballet is by extension a conversation about Tchaikovsky.

Comment #8: Cris (without an H)  on  05/19  at  01:34 PM

Melissa McCarthy just rocked that role, especially in the bridal shop and on the airplane.  She’s got perfect comedic timing and I hope she gets more good movie roles.

I noticed the Annie / bra thing too.  Subtle thing about her feelings of comfort towards her partners.

Comment #9: bouj  on  05/19  at  01:47 PM

ultramagnus, that is a very good point about the sleeping with multiple guys in a short timespan with no judgment development.  i feel like this is something that’s been happening more with women on tv as well.  for instance, ann from parks & rec is on breakup rebound and has been portrayed going out with multiple guys and without any weird sneaking around sitcom plot, any guilt or shame on her part, and no one has said shit about it. it kind of blew my mind, given how many shows must designate a Slut and give her emotional problems and/or ridicule by other characters.

Comment #10: chareth cutestory  on  05/19  at  01:51 PM

I loved this movie, too.

I really liked how it dealt with a lot of rom-com tropes, like the protagonist’s clumsiness, and her dithering ambivalence over the cop.  Those are usually supposed to be endearing in female romantic leads, but here they ended with Megan’s speech of “Put on your big girl panties and deal - this shit’s not cute.”  Well played.

Comment #11: ellefromtheeast  on  05/19  at  02:04 PM

One of the writers of the film was on the Daily Show, but when they showed the title ‘Bridesmaids’ I just went ‘oh.’  Because it sounded like the usual crap fare.  But I might have to check it out now.  Good review

Comment #12: alicefairy  on  05/19  at  02:24 PM

Okay, I think you have settle my decision. I’m going to the theatre tomorrow and couldn’t decide between this or Thor. I think I will see this. I love Jenny McCarthy and have been watching Mike & Molly and enjoying it.

Comment #13: Livi  on  05/19  at  02:25 PM

There were a multitude of female relationships in the movie, and only one was competitive, and it was over a woman.  I think people need to think through some of their criticisms.  Movies require conflict.  If you remove the conflict, there is no movie.  If you don’t want two women conflicting, you’re going to have that many fewer women in the movie.  I’m glad they were passive-aggressive.  That’s realistic.  I don’t want a movie where it’s just a bunch of dudes acting like dudes, but then they suddenly change them to women without adjusting the script.  Women are discouraged from being openly aggressive, whether we like it or not, and so in the real world, many of our conflicts are played out in precisely this fashion. Plus, they did have open warfare as well, with women screaming at each other.

Comment #14: Amanda Marcotte  on  05/19  at  02:40 PM

Melissa McCarthy was definitely the stand-out performance, IMO. She rocked, and having only seen her on Gilmore Girls as the ridiculously sunny Sookie, she was kind of a revelation.

Comment #15: maurinsky  on  05/19  at  02:44 PM

I enjoyed it for the same reasons you did, Amanda. Another thing I thought of afterwards was how I LOVED them showing sex from a woman’s perspective. All the women in the theater get that John Hamm was the typical hot guy who thinks he’s awesome in bed, but he’s not. And Annie is the character who just puts up with the bad sex b/c it’s better than no sex. Plus all the taboos about telling a guy that’s he’s not listening, not much fun. That was really fun to see.

Comment #16: julybirthday  on  05/19  at  02:52 PM

Amanda, thanks for the review: I agree with your assessment of Bridesmaids’ strengths and faults.

The major fault: too much ANNIE SAD, for too damn long.

Really cut into otherwise brilliant comic timing, for one thing.

A couple other reviews mentioned that “needed cuts, too-long-by-half” are a typical Apatow comedy film failing.

Maybe so.

As for this presaging more women-centric comedies, also maybe.

Apatow and crew really know their comedians (both Apaptow and director Feig came out of standup comedy). Another of the strengths of their comedies is not only allowing—but relying on—talented comedians to write those comedies, and to improv lines within scenes. (An HBO “making of” trailer shows off the quick change wit of McCarthy, and John Hamm!)

Hollywood has a tendency to promote pretty star actresses in comedy leads. Apatow promotes from within talented comedians (like Wiig from her cameo in Knocked Up.)

So maybe more women-centric comedies from Apatow and company, formerly bro comedy central. Not sure the rest of Hollywood has learned their lesson—Bridesmaids came in #2 box office on opening weekend, and in five days has already recouped its production budget.

Give the people what they want…funny women, Hollywood! From scripts written by women (and improved by women comedians.)

With Hamm the only recognizable “star” (although not even on poster.) Yeah, that poster with the Bridesmaids alone and fierce should be declared an honorary winner of the Bechtel test.

 

 

 

Comment #17: judybrowni  on  05/19  at  03:33 PM

I also appreciate that Annie’s singleness wasn’t diagnosed as somehow Her Fault because She’s Doing Something Wrong.
The movie made it clear that Annie isn’t a perpetual loser; she’s just going through a rough time in her life.  Like many single 30-somethings, she’s got an ex and hasn’t entered a new relationship due to a combination of not meeting someone she wants to be in a relationship with/ still recovering from her most recent breakup.

Comment #18: Isabella  on  05/19  at  03:39 PM

More industry assessment of the strength of Bridesmaids box office:

“With an above-average hold, Thor easily repeated at the top of the box office over the weekend. Bridesmaids settled for second place, though its opening was impressive for an R-rated comedy with no proven talent in front of the camera…

While estimates pegged Bridesmaids at $24.4 million, it jumped up 7.5 percent to $26.3 million when actuals reported on Monday. That’s way ahead of comparable titles Baby Mama and I Love You, Man and it is producer Judd Apatow’s biggest-grossing opening since Step Brothers in 2008. The movie registered initial attendance in line with The 40-Year-Old Virgin, and it posted the top start for an R-rated comedy since Due Date last November. Bridesmaids also set a new record for a Saturday Night Live cast member’s debut (Kristen Wiig) in a non-SNL starring role, topping Old School (Will Ferrell) in both revenue and attendance.

There’s been a lot made of the supposed risk that Universal Pictures took when deciding to make Bridesmaids, though that was overblown. The movie had a modest reported budget of $32.5 million, was part of the perennially popular wedding genre and featured a cast that, while not marquee, was still recognizable. Also, while producer Judd Apatow hasn’t had a huge hit lately, he has been involved in some of the biggest R-rated comedies of the last few years, including Knocked Up, Superbad, Step Brothers and Pineapple Express.

Once Universal knew they had a potential hit on their hands, they mostly played their cards right. After debuting at South by Southwest a few months ago, Bridesmaids has screened hundreds of times throughout the country, which produced good advanced word-of-mouth. The movie was also well-positioned on the release schedule, well-timed as counter-programming to the wave of comic book movies and big-budget sequels. Commercials for Bridesmaids played up the wedding aspects and the female cameraderie without pushing the raunchier nature of the movie too hard, so it should come as little surprise that Universal reported that 67 percent of the movie’s audience was female and 63 percent was over the age of 30.” http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3163&p=.htm

Give the women what they want, and they will buy tickets…hint, hint Hollywood.

Comment #19: judybrowni  on  05/19  at  03:56 PM

Excellent. I am now officially looking forward to seeing this.

Comment #20: Quin  on  05/19  at  04:01 PM

If only I liked r-rated comedies.  Ohwell.

Comment #21: Crissa  on  05/19  at  04:10 PM

Skip the first couple minutes (and the end credits), and you’ll be skipping a large portion of the R-rated stuff, believe it or not.

Comment #22: judybrowni  on  05/19  at  04:42 PM

I’m guessing if a sex scene is too much for you, then a scene where people are crapping themselves and vomiting isn’t going to be your thing.

Comment #23: Amanda Marcotte  on  05/19  at  06:31 PM

@Amanda

What’s funny about my friend’s critique is that she doesn’t realize (or just won’t acknowledge) that she’s passive-aggressive with me sometimes and vice versa because we just can’t bring ourselves to say what’s bothering us, especially now that we live together. I would love to be more mature about it but the last time I was upfront with female friends about my feelings and what was bothering me in our relationship it blew up in my face and I’m no longer friends with either of them so I’m sad to say I still stoop to that sometimes because I want to keep the peace.

And in an article in Entertainment Weekly, Melissa McCartny is writing a female driven script with Annie Mumolo who co-wrote Bridesmaids with Wiig (Mumolo was also the anxious flying sitting next to Wiig on the airplane) so hopefully we will be seeing more of these and not just romantic comedy retreads.

Comment #24: UltraMagnus  on  05/19  at  09:43 PM

There’s talk of a sequel:
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/05/19/bridesmaids-sequel/

Comment #25: judybrowni  on  05/19  at  10:40 PM

@ Crissa, judybrowni, Amanda—sex humor and gross-out humor is not usually my thing, and to be honest I thought the diarrhea/vomiting scene was one of the least funny comedy scenes in the movie. Like I said, just not really my thing. It doesn’t offend me or anything, but it just doesn’t make me lol.

But I found the sex humor in “Bridesmaids” to be very very funny. It’s not “hurr hurr you said boobies,” and it’s not about laughing at a character being humiliated and degraded by some sexual situation. It’s more of a comedy of manners with sex, if that makes sense—satirizing expectations, attitudes, pretenses about sex.

(And the scene where Annie and Lillian laugh about guys sticking their penises in your face is just the “funny ‘cause it’s true” kind of humor—women do think those things, and talk about it together, but you rarely see it represented in movie dialogue. Probably because dudes who write movie dialogue cannot handle the idea of women mocking penises.)

Comment #26: snowmentality  on  05/20  at  12:15 AM

I liked it, but got sick of Wiig kind of fast. I knew she was supposed to be sympathetic, all the “look, she’s normally not like this” cues were there, but I still felt she couldn’t carry off being an appealing lead. Her freak-outs were just too over the top for me.

I loved Melissa McCarthy and feel like she was the freshest character I’ve seen in a long time, because she’s happy with her life without either being a surburban housewife stereotype or a predatory bitch stereotype. She’s a kind-hearted, stable person who anyone would want to be friends with, and the way she came through for Annie was the complete opposite of the competition between Helen and Annie. But I also loved the two married women and would have liked seeing more scenes with them instead of Annie flailing around.

And I thought Rose Byrne nailed her part. Perfectly. I think most of us have met a Helen at some point.

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http://files.sharenator.com/squirrel_with_machine_gun_weapons-s450x330-43676-580.jpg

DIE, ATHEISTS, DIE!

 

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Guess what is inside ANGEL’S ENVELOPE…


RANDI’S HEAD

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTIkDmNVJeA&feature=player_embedded


MUSICAL INTERLUDE

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

UTTER CRAP AS USUAL!

WOULD YOU EVER INVITE THIS PHOQUER TO DINNER?

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http://kidmacwiz.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/squirrel-lightsaber_thumb12.png


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qDeM_PzJIc


the atheist genocide 2011

 

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NEW VIDEO FROM THE JREF

http://videos.lainformacion.com/ciencia-y-tecnologia/ciencias-general/mantened-los-ojos-abiertos-y-pensad-por-vosotros-mismos_CMZkCF4yhmurThbtFZAfw1/


YOU LOST THE WAR!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY


MORE THAN A MILLIONS DOLLARS!

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8512931/Magnetic-boy-shows-off-skills.html


HAHA!


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_J2o9Jkvkw

METAPHYSICAL GHOSTS

 

Comment #28: djudges  on  05/20  at  04:23 AM

I hope to Bob that djudges gets Raptured on Saturday.

Comment #29: speedbudget  on  05/20  at  06:48 AM

“I hope to Bob that djudges gets Raptured on Saturday.”

After this latest Great Disappointment (is this the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or more this time?), I’m sure Dennis Markuze, and the rest of the Left-Behind-style religious nuts waiting for The Rapture or The Second Coming, or whatever, will offer endless explanations about how the failure of their prediction proves ever more clearly just how accurate their prediction really is.  Somehow.  For some reason non-Koolaid-drinkers can never understand. 

It’s always that way.

Say what you want about the Heaven’s Gate loons, at least they had to good graces to shut their mouths with extreme prejudice so we didn’t have to hear about their theory that this comet may not have been the one, but surely the next comet will be the one to carry them away…

Comment #30: MikeEss  on  05/20  at  08:52 AM

Hey, 28 at 4:23 how about a spoiler warning before you post the food poisoning scene from “Bridesmaids” in the Pandagon comments.

Comment #31: witless chum  on  05/20  at  02:56 PM

Since the entire post started with the warning: LOTS OF SPOILERS! it might occur to one that spoilers might also show up in the comments, unless one was witless.

Comment #32: judybrowni  on  05/20  at  04:06 PM

I do believe that witless chum was insinuating that djudges caused an involuntary forceful evacuation of bodily fluids because the post was so repulsive, hence spoiling the food poisoning scene through firsthand experience.

Comment #33: Atheist Feminazi  on  05/21  at  02:43 PM

Did we see the same movie? Granted, we gave up after 15, maybe 20, minutes. The main characters seemed to just be sad sack losers, boring caricatures at best. It was humorless, and it dragged, and dragged. We kept expecting to be given some reason for following the characters or following the story. We kept expecting, perhaps, something either interesting, humorous, exciting or otherwise evocative of emotion. Maybe we are just philistines. We truly wanted to be drawn into the film, but after what seemed an hour, we walked out feeling we had missed nothing.

Maybe it got better after later, but we have better, more interesting things to do with our time, like flossing.

Comment #34: Kaleberg  on  05/22  at  09:40 PM

My fiancee and I quite enjoyed the movie, but we came away feeling vaguely unsatisfied, as though the writers didn’t feel they could fully commit to a movie just about women who are friends with other women, and we felt like the romance with the cop felt kind of shoehorned in.  Like some writer said, “Hey, wait a minute, the point of women is to be the object of someone’s affection!”  That didn’t make those parts bad, it’s just that it felt like they were part of a different movie from the rest of it.

Comment #35: Fargus  on  05/23  at  09:39 AM
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