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Barack Obama invented abortion

I have to admit that I’m somewhat shocked that the McCain/Palin campaign—-in addition to running with the “Obama is a terrorist” lie—-has picked up the “Obama supports infanticide” lie, and are putting it out in their robocalls.  As John Cole says, here’s the results:

It’s interesting, because the infanticide slur is so obviously bullshit.  I mean, so is the stuff about him being a secret Muslim or a terrorist, but at least in that case, you can say, well, terrorists exist and so do Muslims, and Obama has known many Muslims.  (So has George W. Bush, though.)  But people who think infanticide is an acceptable form of birth control are pretty much non-existent.  Not to say that it doesn’t go on, but when it does, it’s usually inspired by extreme poverty and/or desperation (such as that shown by high school kids who’ve had abstinence impressed upon them so thoroughly that killing a baby seems like a safer bet than admitting they aren’t virgins anymore), and looks like babies dumped in dumpsters, not babies killed in hospital settings.  (In the U.S., but the motivations—-poverty and desperation—-are stable everywhere infanticide happens.)  And it’s a well-documented fact that women would rather not get pregnant in the first place, but if they do and they choose to abort, they prefer to get it done as soon as possible—-which is why the 30 year trend shows that women get abortions earlier on average than they used to, as new technologies make that possible. 
The bill Obama voted against was a bill aimed at banning abortion, at least the late term ones that are done for health reasons, and was presented by a group of people who consider not jut abortion, but also contraception, “anti-life”.  When they act indignant about being accused of trying to ban abortion, remember that they don’t even try to pretend otherwise, even when they’re acting indignant.  That’s like me getting in a huff because you accuse me of wanting women to be men’s equals.  It’s not even hypocrisy at that point, but being willfully stupid in order to introduce noise and confusion to a debate, because you know you can’t win if people understand an issue clearly.

But the lie that’s really working my last nerve is this one about how Obama was talking about abortion when he said he doesn’t want his daughters “punished with a baby” if they have sex as teenagers.  He was talking about the need to teach comprehensive sex education.  I cover this in this week’s podcast, and it’s not even unclear that he was talking about sex education—-I play back the relevant parts of his speech, and it’s not only clear that he’s talking about sex education, you would have to be a level of stupid beyond the capabilities of our modern technology to measure in order to think he was talking about anything else.  And yet, Sarah Palin keeps talking about how horrible “pro-abortion” Obama is in her stump speech and making reference to this quote of his regarding sex education.  And the mainstream media is picking it up and running with it without pointing out that she’s lying.  It’s this year’s “invented the internet”.

The only thing I can conclude from this is that “pro-lifers”, including Sarah Palin, think even hearing about how to use a condom is having an abortion.  I fail to understand how Palin can reconcile that with her claims to be for contraception, if she thinks even having the discussion is tantamount to abortion.

But what really puzzles me about this whole lie is why it’s offensive to say that babies aren’t punishment and shouldn’t be used as punishment.  What part of that offends anti-choicers?  Do they hate and dislike children so much that they can’t imagine them being anything but god’s punishment for fucking?  I’m sure if you asked someone why this is supposedly offensive, they’d say, “Because I love children, and babies are a joy, not a punishment.”  The problem with that is that’s exactly what Obama was saying.  Or at least, he was saying that babies should be a joy, not a punishment, but anti-choice policies (in this case, refusing to teach teenagers how to use contraception) makes babies a punishment.  Anti-choicers shy away from the word “punishment”, demanding that pro-choicers use euphemisms, so maybe that’s the source of the offense, that Obama refused to use a euphemism like “consequences”, which is hardly a euphemism anymore, because when it comes to sex, “consequences” is almost never used in a neutral manner, but almost always in a way that’s synonymous with “punishment”.

Honestly, I think that’s it.  The source of the offense is that Obama refused to coddle their bullshit and described it for what it is.  It’s certainly not that he thinks babies are punishment—-he said the opposite—-but that he said a) babies should not be punishment but b) anti-choicers treat them as if they are.  It’s the latter that is so offensive, because anti-choicers feel entitled to a public discourse where people tip-toe around and refuse to speak the truth about them.  And why shouldn’t they?  The media kow-tows to anti-choicers all the time, lacquering on all sorts of euphemistic prettiness to make their ugly beliefs look nicer than they are.  They get to be called “pro-life”, as if there was any relation between trying to prevent women from controlling their own fertility and respecting life.  (It’s somewhat easier to believe if you don’t think women have lives worth caring about, which is why McCain made clear when he put women’s health in air quotes.) They get to be described as “values voters” as if misogyny were a value worth respecting.  And then there’s the general ass-kissing even from many pro-choice people about how morally gray this whole situation is, as if there’s anything close to reasonable about valuing fertilized eggs over women.  No wonder anti-choicers think that they are entitled to coddling and euphemisms, since they get it from most people most of the time, even when they’re screaming “baby killer” at you. 

Which does cause one to wonder: When Obama exposed them for using abstinence-only as a way to set up teenage girls to be punished for having sex with pregnancy, do they think that was in and of itself abortion?  Like saying the words “contraceptive education” out loud can cause a ripple in the air that infiltrates nearby wombs and causes miscarriage?  Let me put it this way—-we are dealing with people who believe that Satan is real and he has the time to follow every person on earth around and tempt them to sin.  So maybe they do think that “contraception” is a magic, abortion-causing word.

 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 11:56 AM • (21) Comments

I wonder if any of these asshats has been asked about “interracial” children being a legal pretext for abortion.  Knowing people who have been told they should abort by fundy asshats fearing mixed race children, I’d like to seem them ink into their laws what they say in private.

Comment #1: Ms Kate  on  10/20  at  12:36 PM

Is it just me, or are the anti-sex education rantings of an evil bitch who can’t even properly teach her own kids how to avoid pregnancy and STDs a bit questionable?

Comment #2: Ms Kate  on  10/20  at  12:38 PM

Don’t forget, according to the crazy people like Stanek, not taking expensive heroic measures to keep a doomed infant alive for an extra few days or weeks before it inevitably dies a natural death is “infanticide.”  But ask them who’s supposed to pay the $100,000 a day to keep all of them breathing for as long as possible and suddenly they get real quiet.

I swear that I have never seen anyone as afraid of death as a right-winger.  With all of their supposed faith in God, shouldn’t they be a little less scared of what’s going to happen to them in the afterlife?  They’ve built entire industries around the idea that they will never have to actually die, but will be ascended into heaven in a Rapture.

Fred Clark has, of course, written extensively about this bizarre phobia about death they have, but right now I can’t get to Slacktivist from my home computer.  Grr.

Comment #3: Mnemosyne  on  10/20  at  12:38 PM

Maybe Obama isn’t secretly Muslim—maybe he’s secretly Jewish and advocates infanticide so he can drink the blood of Christian babies!

Is it just me, or are the anti-sex education rantings of an evil bitch who can’t even properly teach her own kids how to avoid pregnancy and STDs a bit questionable?

Well, if a Catholic priest can advise people on their sexual mores—

Comment #4: jTuba  on  10/20  at  01:26 PM

Sex and death phobias are intimately related, because both are reminders that we are, at the end of the day, another kind of animal.  The horror that right wingers feel when they consider that they might never have been born is a reflection of their horror that they will die and be forgotten eventually.  We all will.  I fail to find this alarming, because all horrors are directly related to one’s ability to perceive them.  I cannot regret being forgotten when I cease to exist. 

You’d think a horror at sexuality as evidence of one’s animal nature would manifest in support for the human tendency to elevate sex by making it about play and intimacy, all of which is destroyed if you turn it into an act that’s constantly haunted by danger.  But misogyny is an interesting beast—-by relegating women to domestic animal status, men feel elevated to demi-gods above the bloating, bleeding, animal-like messes that are women.  Allowing women to control their fertility (unlike an animal) breaks up the woman/animal and man/god formula, reminding men that they’re human animals just like women.  Of course, a lot of men don’t care, but they tend to be pro-choice.

Comment #5: Amanda Marcotte  on  10/20  at  02:23 PM

Is it just me, or are the anti-sex education rantings of an evil bitch who can’t even properly teach her own kids how to avoid pregnancy and STDs a bit questionable?

Please don’t say that.  I get your meaning, but every time a liberal calls Palin a bitch or a bad mother, another PUMA/Feminist 4 Palin gets her wings. 

Children with good parents screw up too.

Comment #6: killjoy  on  10/20  at  02:43 PM

This election, if nothing else, has brought forth to the very surface just how unhinged a country we really are, populated by willfully ignorant, hateful people with an insatiable urge to continue that hate at all costs.

Comment #7: Spanky  on  10/20  at  02:47 PM

Toward last week. Watch out McCain campaign talking points… they start to spread all over the net. (as usual PUMA is one of the most reliable republican site)


this is the raw street list
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/10/20/seven-reasons-not-to.html

puma list
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/still-not-voting-for-obama/


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basically, it’s variation of a theme:

don’t vote for the ‘uppity terrorist moslem negro’

(it appeals to very basic in human nature, race, religion, fear)
somebody should start running counter spin.

Comment #8: suvorov  on  10/20  at  03:21 PM

And since you’ve brought it up,  how, even in their screwed-up excuses for minds, do policies based on using children as a form of punishment get characterized as favoring life?

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Killjoy—Palin is a bad mother. Not because her 17-year-old has a sex life—hell, ‘most everybody’s 17-year-old has a sex life. 

But Palin appears to be a woman—one with a 6-figure income and considerable other resources—who has done absolute jack-shit for her kids.  Hasn’t tended to their educations, hasn’t made any effort to get them into college, had her oldest girl drop out of school last year and now uses her as a free 24/7 nursemaid to the baby she oh-so-nobly chose to have (uh, pregnancy isn’t the tricky part of having special-needs child).  The son in Iraq is basically the same as every other enlistee who didn’t have the money to do anything else, and didn’t have parents who cared about him enough to talk him out of it; only his mom could have got him into the U of Alaska with a phone call. But she didn’t bother, probably because her own ambition and self-aggrandizement is the only thing she’ll expend any energy on.

So yeah, lousy mother. Any PUMAs who want to dispute this can bite me.

(And my apologies for this OTness.)

Comment #9: Molly, NYC  on  10/20  at  03:45 PM

Hasn’t tended to their educations, hasn’t made any effort to get them into college, had her oldest girl drop out of school last year and now uses her as a free 24/7 nursemaid to the baby she oh-so-nobly chose to have (uh, pregnancy isn’t the tricky part of having special-needs child).  The son in Iraq is basically the same as every other enlistee who didn’t have the money to do anything else, and didn’t have parents who cared about him enough to talk him out of it; only his mom could have got him into the U of Alaska with a phone call.

See, I think that’s valid.  But what I’m used to reading is just that Palin’s a bad mother because her daughter is pregnant and that sits badly with me.

Comment #10: killjoy  on  10/20  at  04:38 PM

The PUMAs on Obama (I don’t know why anything they say still surprises me):

His list of achievements can be summed up in one bullet point:  getting into office, jobs, and schools on something less than merit and hard work.

Could it be AFFIRMATIVE ACTION?  Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnn….

Didn’t he graduate near the top of his class at Harvard?

Comment #11: killjoy  on  10/20  at  04:40 PM

Oh, and W got into anything ever on merit?

Comment #12: Ms Kate  on  10/20  at  05:04 PM

Killjoy, my problem is that somebody so full of obvious fail on the subject is advocating for policies that prevent other parents from having the resources to keep their kids safe in scientifically validated ways.

Comment #13: Ms Kate  on  10/20  at  05:07 PM

As I understand it, Track got in trouble with the law, and chose the military to avoid stiffer penalties.  I’m not sure if that’s true because I thought these jail or army choices that judges hand out stopped happening in another age.

Comment #14: shah8  on  10/20  at  05:09 PM

Killjoy, my problem is that somebody so full of obvious fail on the subject is advocating for policies that prevent other parents from having the resources to keep their kids safe in scientifically validated ways.

I love the use of the phrase “full of obvious fail”, but I think I’d find her just as offensive if her kids were perfect.  To each her own.

Comment #15: killjoy  on  10/20  at  05:47 PM

“But what I’m used to reading is just that Palin’s a bad mother because her daughter is pregnant and that sits badly with me.”

There’s something pretty vicious about advocating a platform of enforced and glorified ignorance, seeing your own kid fall prey to it in one of the most permanent ways possible, and not only sticking to it like glue but trying to force everybody else’s kids into the same fucking mistakes.  Generally that sort of up close and personal look at where something will lead is what makes people like her do a 180 on the subject, not dig in deeper and/or socialize the misery.  See also, funding for special needs children.

Comment #16: preying mantis  on  10/20  at  07:09 PM

Please don’t say that.  I get your meaning, but every time a liberal calls Palin a bitch or a bad mother, another PUMA/Feminist 4 Palin gets her wings.

No woman who calls herself a feminist can vote for J. Sidney “scare quotes for ‘mother’s health’” McCain III.  His positions are anti-feminist, and he convinced me in the last debate that he really hates women.

Children with good parents screw up too.

  Sure they do.  But good parents do try to help their kids make the best choices, even when they screw up.  They don’t set their kids up to fail and then parade them around as trophies to their vanity or, the more common alternative, kick them to the streets.

As for jail-vs.-army being from another age…what do you think happens in rural America?  All those pro-Americans are not living in progressive, i.e., forward-thinking communities.  They use their “common sense” and imitate Leave it to Beaver while they cling to their guns and religion. 

That’s why so many people LEAVE small towns and move to the big cities.

Comment #17: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  10/20  at  07:18 PM

No woman who calls herself a feminist can vote for J. Sidney “scare quotes for ‘mother’s health’” McCain III.  His positions are anti-feminist, and he convinced me in the last debate that he really hates women.

No argument there.  None.  I absolutely and totally agree with you.  It’s just that I’ve been monitoring the trainwreck that is the various pro-Palin pseudo-feminist blogs, and I hate the idea of giving them anything on which to hang their horrible arguments. 

There’s something pretty vicious about advocating a platform of enforced and glorified ignorance, seeing your own kid fall prey to it in one of the most permanent ways possible, and not only sticking to it like glue but trying to force everybody else’s kids into the same fucking mistakes.

But it’d be just as bad (and, I think, far more typical) if Bristol had had an abortion on the sly. 

Again, I agree this is a shitty, vicious policy endorsed by shitty, vicious politicians.  I just fear becoming fodder for the New Agenda types.

Comment #18: killjoy  on  10/20  at  08:02 PM

And from a right-wing point of view, I’d suggest abstinence-only education does not fail—it makes it far more likely that teenage girls (and boys, but especially girls) will be “punished” for having sex, that they will be pushed into early marriage and childrearing as Bristol Palin likely was.  The Right doesn’t seem to have a huge problem with the fact that Bristol had sex before marriage, since she’s doing the “right thing” and having the baby and marrying the baby’s father, no matter what that does to her life.

Comment #19: killjoy  on  10/20  at  08:13 PM

</i>Didn’t he graduate near the top of his class at Harvard?</i>

See, your problem is that you view affirmative action as a social program with a lot of holes in it and not as a grand conspiracy against white people.  Everything Obama has ever done—including being the first black president of the Harvard Law Review—was handed to him on a platter just because he’s black.  The only people who work hard to get what they want and achieve it are white people, and even then they have to be the “right kind” (middle-class or above).

Comment #20: Mnemosyne  on  10/20  at  08:23 PM

“But it’d be just as bad (and, I think, far more typical) if Bristol had had an abortion on the sly.”

Where did anyone imply it wouldn’t be? There aren’t too many (I’m sure there are some, since it’s the internet and there’s always somebody, somewhere) people saying Palin is a bad mother for not hustling Bristol to a provider post-haste as soon as she found out she was pregnant* and then becoming a dyed in the wool pro-choicer.  The big, huge, glaring problem is that she’s still a proponent of abstinence-only education, even after it’s screwed her own child over so badly.  She’s seen the results of teens not having the tools to prevent pregnancy and STD transmission first-hand, and her response is to keep on keeping on in her fight to deny everyone else’s children access to those tools.  It’d be like if MADD was fighting against anti-hazing regulations on college campuses, lobbying against alcohol education, and campaigning to get the drinking age lowered to 18. 

*It is possible—I personally doubt it, but it’s hardly improbable—that Bristol considered her pregnancy a full-blown baby from Day 1, wanted to carry to term, and would have been horribly traumatized by her family browbeating her into aborting.  It’s hardly a rare story.

Comment #21: preying mantis  on  10/20  at  09:08 PM
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