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Because he was a POW, dontchaknow

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Just about the least loving picture of the two together that I could find

This is some bullshit right here:

Sen. John McCain today issued some of his strongest criticism of President Bush over an aggressive interrogation technique, clearly suggesting that the president has endorsed torture.

During an assessment of the Bush presidency on “Fox News Sunday,” McCain discussed the administration’s use over “waterboarding,” a technique that has been used to interrogate terrorist detainees.

“Waterboarding to me is torture, okay? And waterboarding was advocated by the administration, and according to a published report, was used,” McCain said. “I obviously don’t want to torture any prisoners.”

November 1, 2007:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Thursday the United States does not use an interrogation technique known as waterboarding and argued that Attorney General-nominee Michael Mukasey would not allow the method.

“I am confident he would not condone such practices,” the Arizona senator told more than 250 students during a town-hall meeting at Coastal Carolina University. “I have been briefed enough to know we are not doing that today anywhere in America’s government.”

January 28, 2008:

“It was just waterboarding,” McCain interjected. Update of an unintential implication: McCain made a joke about a discussion he’d had with Charlie Crist. McCain’s sin here is joking about torture, not actually dismissing its use in war.

February 13, 2008:

Mr. McCain, a former prisoner of war, has consistently voiced opposition to waterboarding and other methods that critics say is a form torture. But the Republicans, confident of a White House veto, did not mount the challenge. Mr. McCain voted “no” on Wednesday afternoon.

I’m pretty sure McCain could be a bigger mess at this point, I’m just not quite sure how.

 

 

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Posted by Auguste on 04:17 PM • (11) Comments

He’d be a bigger mess if we had a media that called him out for this kind of bullshit, instead of leaving it to bloggers. So yeah, there’s probably no way he can be a bigger mess.

Comment #1: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  08/31  at  05:07 PM

Mukasey reversed the Gonzales DOJ’s position that waterboarding was legal shortly after he took over as Attorney General.  Gonzales and Bush expressly defended the practice but I don’t think Mukasey has condoned waterboarding, so I don’t see any inconsistency in McCain’s statements.

As for the joke, the guy’s record on the subject is clear. Lighten up and get a life.

Comment #2: mitchforth  on  08/31  at  07:06 PM

As for the joke, the guy’s record on the subject is clear.

That’s right. He approves of torture when it’s politically convenient. I thought that was pretty clear.

McCain has no principles, and his condemnation of Bush is as transparent as can be.

Comment #3: Auguste  on  08/31  at  07:17 PM

“No principles? The man was a POW for 5 1/2 years!”

Just thought I’d save someone some time.

Comment #4: Auguste  on  08/31  at  07:20 PM

So ... he was against it before he was for it before he was against it?

Comment #5: The Wanderer  on  08/31  at  08:57 PM

“No principles? The man was a POW for 5 1/2 years!”

...to which we can now add:
“No experience?  She was Governor of the state with a population larger than North Dakota, Vermont, or Wyoming for 1 & 1/2 years!”

...and if that doesn’t work:
“And before that she was mayor of Moose Turd, AK, which gave her way more experience than Obama!”

...followed by:
“She has even more experience than any previous presidential candidates ever!  In the whole history of America!”

...and finally with:
Actually, she has so much experience she has more experience than half of the elected presidents in American history.  For reals!  And she has a child with Down’s Syndrome!...”

Comment #6: MikeEss  on  08/31  at  09:01 PM

You need to leave this one alone.  Pick on McCain for 100 other things.  He’s been a consistent opponent of torture.  You are not required to find fault about everything he says to be against him.

He still can’t walk long distances (I know, because I’ve walked with him, many years ago, knocking on doors in AZ) because of what the NVA did to him.

Turn off the hate on this one issue, if you can.  Try to rise above being so unthinkinginly mean-spirited.  Is that possible?

Comment #7: Watergate  on  09/01  at  03:45 AM

You need to leave this one alone.  Pick on McCain for 100 other things.  He’s been a consistent opponent of torture.

You mean apart from joking about waterboarding on Jan 28, above?

Turn off the hate on this one issue, if you can.  Try to rise above being so unthinkinginly mean-spirited.  Is that possible?

Riiiiight - the people advocating torturing other human beings are “serious”, those criticising that are “mean-spirited”.  Why don’t you fuck off to Gitmo and see how “mean-spirited” the detainees have gotten?

Comment #8: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  09/01  at  06:42 AM

“Pick on McCain for 100 other things.  He’s been a consistent opponent of torture.”

Watergate obviously has severe reading comprehension problems or extreme short-term memory loss. 

‘Cause if he’s already forgotten what he read at the top of this thread by the time he gets down here to make a comment…‘nuff said…

Or have you really <strike>evolved</strike> devolved to the point you can simultaneously hold several completely contradictory things in your mind and not even notice they are contradictory?...

Comment #9: MikeEss  on  09/01  at  09:01 AM

You need to leave this one alone.  Pick on McCain for 100 other things.  He’s been a consistent opponent of torture.

He’s paid a lot of lip service to opposing torture.  And then he went and voted to allow it to continue.

What kind of “principles” does he have if he knows on a deep and personal level how terrible torture is, and yet voted to allow the US government to continue it anyway?  Is his stance that it’s bad for him to be tortured, but it’s okay for other people to be tortured?

Seriously, I’d like to hear your explanation for his vote allowing torture to continue if he’s so strongly against it.

Comment #10: Mnemosyne  on  09/01  at  12:45 PM

Turn off the hate on this one issue, if you can.  Try to rise above being so unthinkinginly mean-spirited.  Is that possible?

There was nothing mean-spirited about it. I accused Senator McCain of unprincipledness very advisedly. See the previous three comments in this thread for the reasons, or, you know, what I actually wrote in my post.

Comment #11: Auguste  on  09/01  at  02:10 PM
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