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Because It’s Race Day

Tom Maguire, commenting on this article:

“We as black people now have hope that we have never, ever had,” Mr. Sam-Brew said. “I have new goals for my little girl. She can’t give me any excuses because she’s black.”

What a wonderful country, and I can almost hear Mr. Sam-Brew explaining it to his daughter:  Littlest darling, because of the Obama Ascendancy, you will never have to endure the institutionalized racism in America that I never actually endured either, seeing as how I was born in a different country in 1970.  But after I arrived from never-prosperous Ghana the race hustlers here in America assured me it was awful, and I have no reason to doubt them.  But let’s not look backwards - let’s look towards a brighter future, in which you have a great shot at being accepted into a top school or getting preferential treatment in hiring because you, too, are a once-oppressed minority.  It’s a wonderful world.

See, paragraphs like this are the reason why a better strategy for the Republican Party to gain votes in the black community would be to leave bags of flaming dog shit on doorsteps in Birmingham.

Mr. Sam-Brew, incidentally, has a five year old American-born daughter, meaning that he’s been living in America for (wait for it…) at least five years.  And those are American years, not those shitty Ghana years.  Now, the fundamental question here is whether or not a man with black skin, living in America for any significant portion of time, would experience the same sort of racial prejudice that a man with black skin who was born in America would experience over the same amount of time. 

If you can’t answer that question, then here’s another one: does the bouncy ball go bouncy bouncy?  I think it does!

Leaving out the “black people get all the breaks” affirmative action knock, let’s move on, because pride is a stupid, stupid thing for people to have.

The next endorsement brings us down a bit, but only to a low Earth orbit:

In his remarks Tuesday, Mr. Obama did not mention becoming the first American of color with a real chance at being president of the United States, and, of course, most of the Democrats who had voted for him were white. But for that very reason, many African-Americans exulted Wednesday in a political triumph that they believed they would never live to see. Many expressed hope that their children would draw strength from the moment.

“Not that we’re so distraught, but our children need to be able to see a black adult as a leader for the country, so they can know we can reach for those same goals,” said Wilhelmina Brown, 54, an account representative for U.S. Bank in St. Paul. “We don’t need to give up at a certain level.”

How Japanese kids, Chinese kids, or Jewish kids ever make it out of bed in the morning, and why they bother, is left unexplained.

There are absolutely no efforts in American society to memorialize or promote achievement on the parts of any of those groups or to remember great moments in their history.

Black people, we need to learn from these examples.

The good thing about race being such a dense and formidable topic is that it assures post fodder from here until 2016.  The bad part is, the fodder keeps being provided.  In this case, we’ve got a slightly different version of what we discussed yesterday - the idea that a black person becoming a major-party nominee for president is an achievement is not only merely silly, but in this case, openly destructive and even degrading.  To take pride in this is to wallow unnecessarily in the muck of the past, which, honestly, you should have gotten past when it was actually happening.

The bad things - racism, sexism, the Pat Sajak Show - are always in the past, even though their effects may linger on to this day.  It’s always safe to admit that bad things happened when they’re immutable and untouchable, and much easier to hide behind callow disdain when people speak up (in celebration, no less!) to say that things are actually less bad than they were before.  Any admission of progress also involves the admission that there’s progress to make. 

Denial helps you sort that out real quick.

Watershed moments always bring out the best and the worst among us.  Let’s not be afraid to admit both.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 12:52 PM • (18) Comments

Now, the fundamental question here is whether or not a man with black skin, living in America for any significant portion of time, would experience the same sort of racial prejudice that a man with black skin who was born in America would experience over the same amount of time.

The answer:  no.  Rednecks are reeeeeal good at sorting out which black man was born in Ghana and which was born in America.

The entire premise of that idiot’s column is flawed anyway:  The daughter was born here, and will likely spend her life here.  What her father did or did not experience here is irrelevant to her future.  If there is racism in America—and there is—the daughter will have to face it.

Comment #1: Notorious P.A.T.  on  06/05  at  01:14 PM

Was Gunnar Myrdal or Alexis de Tocqueville the ORH (Original Race Hustlah)?

Comment #2: norbizness  on  06/05  at  01:24 PM

“See, paragraphs like this are the reason why a better strategy for the Republican Party to gain votes in the black community would be to leave bags of flaming dog shit on doorsteps in Birmingham.”

Generally conservatives, bot white and black, aren’t capable of refraining from insulting blacks.

Comment #3: Plantsmantx  on  06/05  at  01:25 PM

You know where Obama is holding his first town hall of the general election?

95%+ white and Appalachian Bristol, VA. I couldn’t imagine a better place to try to squash (or at least contain) the racial problems he might face.

Comment #4: Ben D.  on  06/05  at  01:31 PM

Jesse mentioned the other day how surprising it was to return to the internet after a 3-year absense and find that John Cole had transformed hismelf into a reasonable moderate Democrat.  Meanwhile, however, the formerly semi-reasonable Tom Maguire has gone batshit insane.

Comment #5: rea  on  06/05  at  01:33 PM

“I have new goals for my little girl. She can’t give me any excuses because she’s black.”

On the other hand, she can point out to her father that Hillary Clinton got shedloads of misogynist trash for being the first woman to have a fighting chance at the Presidency, and what are you doing for feminism so when I grow up I can aim to be President just like her, Dad?

Comment #6: Jesurgislac  on  06/05  at  02:12 PM

I wonder what kind of counter-tops Mr. Sam-Brew has.  The answer to that could tell us a lot about him, his daughter, and whether they can be considered worthy of respect or not.

What’s Malkin doing for the next few days?...

I don’t know why we’re talking about this anyway, since Tony Snow let us know that racism ended in the ‘60’s.  Besides, the Civil War ended in 1865.  Can’t we just pretend everything is okay and move on like the wingnuts want us to?...

Comment #7: MikeEss  on  06/05  at  02:16 PM

I see Mr. Maguire has conveniently erased from memory the reaction of American Jews to Lieberman’s nomination for VP.

Comment #8: mythago  on  06/05  at  04:39 PM

Let’s look towards a brighter future, in which you have a great shot at being accepted into a top school or getting preferential treatment in hiring because you, too, are a legacy who was born with personal connections* and money.

*I seriously heard an uber-libertarian type argue once that there is absolutely no “connections lottery,” that people can make equal footing simply by going out and making connections.  Never mind that said connections often have to see you as “one of them” first and the ability to make connections varies enormously.  What, Bush, Jonah Goldberg, etc. weren’t born into the connections lottery?

Comment #9: calvinhobbes  on  06/05  at  05:14 PM

Is this the one and original Jesse Taylor?  Welcome back.

(In Chapter Two I will learn that Jesse has been back for two years…)

As to content:

“Now, the fundamental question here is whether or not a man with black skin, living in America for any significant portion of time, would experience the same sort of racial prejudice that a man with black skin who was born in America would experience over the same amount of time.

If you can’t answer that question, then here’s another one: does the bouncy ball go bouncy bouncy?  I think it does! “

Oddly, the are those who are less sure; hence my link to a dispute between black immigrants and natives about just why white racism only seems to hold back those born here.  Let’s see:

“Mary C. Waters, the chairman of the sociology department at Harvard, who has studied West Indian immigrants, says they are initially more successful than many African-Americans for a number of reasons. Since they come from majority-black countries, they are less psychologically handicapped by the stigma of race. In addition, many arrive with higher levels of education and professional experience. And at first, they encounter less discrimination.”

Obviously, there is a self-selection issue in play here.  Anyway, neither Colin Powell nor Barack Obama, two men of Presidential timber, would count as native blacks.

Comment #10: Tom Maguire  on  06/05  at  05:30 PM

Perlstein <“http://ourfuture.org/blog-entry/meaning-box-722”> had some examples of history in 1960’s after the civil rights act that Mr.Maguire might want to read.

Comment #11: Stiv Bator  on  06/05  at  05:44 PM

“Mary C. Waters, the chairman of the sociology department at Harvard, who has studied West Indian immigrants, says they are initially more successful than many African-Americans for a number of reasons. Since they come from majority-black countries, they are less psychologically handicapped by the stigma of race. In addition, many arrive with higher levels of education and professional experience. And at first, they encounter less discrimination.”

Can I ask why you cite something that keeps saying “initially” and “at first”?

Comment #12: Jesse Taylor  on  06/05  at  06:21 PM

…you will never have to endure the institutionalized racism in America that I never actually endured either, seeing as how I was born in a different country in 1970.  But after I arrived from never-prosperous Ghana…

Clearly, no black person from Africa has ever felt the ill effects of racism or colonialism.  Seeing a black man nominated to lead a superpower should therefore be completely unimpressive to him.

Comment #13: rufustfyrfly  on  06/05  at  07:52 PM

“Seeing a black man nominated to lead a superpower should therefore be completely unimpressive to him.”

It happens at least once a week…doesn’t it?...

Comment #14: MikeEss  on  06/05  at  08:00 PM

Tom:

Anyway, neither Colin Powell nor Barack Obama, two men of Presidential timber, would count as native blacks.

It’s funny you should say so, because I was just sitting here thinking that Harlem and Honolulu (respectively) are, in fact, places in the United States of America.

I’m glad you dropped in to set the record straight.

Comment #15: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  06/06  at  01:45 AM

Wow. You know, for some reason, when I see the name “Tom Maguire,” I have some sense or memory of him being a fundamentally decent, honorable guy, even if he is a conservative. Then I read what he actually wrote, and I wonder why I ever thought that.

Comment #16: Julian Elson  on  06/06  at  02:05 AM

ou know, for some reason, when I see the name “Tom Maguire,” I have some sense or memory of him being a fundamentally decent, honorable guy, even if he is a conservative.

It’s mainly because the meme of his supposed reasonableness gets passed along. Extended exposure, on the other hand, reveals him to be a fuckwit with an agenda that stretches out the door, combined with a talent for hiding it under layers of bullshit. (He was never ‘reasonable’ when seeking out any possible rationale to defend now-convicted-felon Scooter Libby.)

It’s moments like these that are definitive, though. Presumably we’re now meant to wonder whether he’s an echt green-Guinness Oirish-American or disqualified by a second-generation connection to the auld sod.

Comment #17: pseudonymous in nc  on  06/06  at  02:50 AM

These moments should be celebrated by ALL not merely the affected “minority”.  Each is a time when we all finally set some of our cultural baggage to the wayside.  It’s a great time.

Comment #18: Geeno  on  06/06  at  03:45 AM
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