Of course, there was no significant segment of the population that supported the last President regardless of his positions, or used emotions rather than reason.

I wonder how much of it is banal cluelessness and how much is overt racism. For instance, this I could put down to banal cluelessness—using the metaphor of a raisin in “the sun of the old Confederacy” to describe the current state of the Republican party is lazy and inappropriate at the very least. But what York did—and what his editors let him do—is far more overt.

Well….

If we get to discount the opionions off all those who voted for him because he was black; we get to throw out the opinions of all of those who voted against because he was black.  Fair, no?

It’s a typical mistake that white people make if they’re not careful - the idea that White People are not a group the same way Black People are a group (or that Men are not a group the same way Women are a group).

So in this case, they’ll argue that we should ignore the opinions of black people when it comes to the policies of a black president, because of course how can Black People be objective? And yet they don’t make the leap to say that we should ignore the opinions of white people when it comes to the policies of a white president, because they recognize that White People have a diversity of opinions.

Of course, this is only an explanation, not an excuse. It’s still lazy and racist rhetoric.

how about, on some issue <strike>black</strike> voters support the man rather than the position,

How is this different than every other politician in history?  Oh, yeah, I see it now.

Conservatives do this over and over—-separate the votes by race and crow about how the Democrat, whatever color he or she may be, has significantly less support among whites. I’m not sure why, especially since these people are the first to howl whenever things like school performance, per-pupil spending, income disparity, arrest and conviction rates, etc., are delineated by race.

Conservatives do this over and over—-separate the votes by race and crow about how the Democrat, whatever color he or she may be, has significantly less support among whites.

My current theory is that this is really a form of projection. Guys like York care a lot about what someone’s race is. Therefore, he assumes that other people make their decisions the same way he does.

This theory is not easy to prove—projection never is. I’m not even sure how to get better evidence. Perhaps I will think of something.

I wonder how much of it is banal cluelessness and how much is overt racism.

Both/and blog.

Oh c’mon Jesse, did you really think your vote counted as much as, you know, a regular person’s (wink wink nudge nudge)? Hey, I tell you what, maybe the regular people will let you count for 3/5 of a person- that’d be OK, wouldn’t it?

Did York forget that a huge majority of Republicans are white?  News flash! A Democratic president is not as popular among Republicans as he is among Democrats.

Not to sound all Pauline Kael, but I’m curious where all of these Obama-hating white people are.  They sure don’t work in my office.

I have a little suspicion that maybe white people in Southern California have a slightly different opinion of Obama than white people in, say, Mississippi.  But, of course, we’re not Real Americans out here, so I guess we don’t count either.

This is a perfect glimpse into white entitlement and racial cluelessness, isn’t it?  To spout off some seemingly logical (to him) crap which automatically implies that Black voters are not really American voters just like everyone else…and not even blink an eye…that’s really impressive.

At the rate they’re going, before too long the Republican Party platform will include a call to bring back the 3/5ths “compromise” so we can stay true to the original (racist) intent of the Constitution.  I’m sure Scalia would love it, and Thomas too…

“Of course, we could also do this another way: just have bin Laden read off each party’s platform, and whichever one Americans hate less wins everything.  Yes, that seems fair.”

As long as there’s no fart smell around, it might actually work…

Of course, we could also do this another way: just have bin Laden read off each party’s platform, and whichever one Americans hate less wins everything.  Yes, that seems fair.

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

This is a perfect glimpse into white entitlement and racial cluelessness, isn’t it?

Yeah, what Mike said.

My current theory is that this is really a form of projection.

Sigh, just like almost every other conservative issue.  They just can’t imagine anyone acting for different motives than they do.

I get the impression these guys watch the “Inside Looking Out” sketches on MAD TV and laugh their asses off because black people are totally like that.  I know for certain they love to quote Chris Rock’s “there are black people and then there are [a word I don’t use]” bit.

Of course, having said that, it should be just a matter of time before someone comes along to ask me how I know what the world is like, because living in it is simply not good enough.

Did you ever see “The Office” where Michael does that routine?  And doesn’t get why it offends everyone?

I didn’t—we get TV through an antenna and NBC gets bad reception—but it isn’t surprising that the character did.

his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.

Unfuckingbelievable.

Black people are skewing poll results so you can’t see that the Black President’s policies are actually less popular amongst real Americans.

Just…gah….snfiwejlvdoj.  I’m glad I live in post-racial times.

Yep, they’d be horrified if someone pointed out the Bush wouldn’t have had a chance if not for the entitled-white-asshole vote. At times one really begins to wonder whether this is the kind of cognitive deficity that should be in DSM.

Put differently, Black support for Obama is actually reflective of Black support for Obama’s policies.  Why?  Because liberal policies are almost universally popular among Black voters and have been for generations. 

It’s not as if Black folks were saying to themselves in appreciable numbers, “Christ I despise the policies of this administration, but since Obama’s is black I will cut him some small slack just once.  Any white liberal in Congress who agrees with him, though, is dead meat.”

Did you know that support among southern racists did let FDR look more popular than he was?

After factoring out the south he never had a majority!

I wonder how they’d respond if someone wrote that “if you take out the white evangelical vote, George W. Bush’s approval ratings would be in the low single digits.”

So between he and the libertarian jerk-off who blamed women and poor people the other day, the modern day conservative movement wants only property-owning white males to count.

Conservatism—Building a Bridge to the Eighteenth Century.

I was always highly amused at Rush’s claim, sometime back, that if you don’t count black votes, George Bush won quite handily in 2000.

Well, ok, maybe.  If you disenfranchise somewhere between ten and twenty percent of the public, it skews the results.  But I want MORE.

Like, how would the last election have gone if only people under 35 had their votes counted?  What about only people who’ve read White Noise?  Or only people who liked the Matrix sequels?

Like, how would the last election have gone if only people under 35 had their votes counted?

You don’t even have to go that young. If you count only people under 50—even WHITE people under 50—Obama won by an even bigger margin this year.

Of course, there was no significant segment of the population that supported the last President regardless of his positions, or used emotions rather than reason.

This is an excellent point.

I’ll piggyback:

When Blacks voted for Pres P, they were engaging in “identity politics” ...White people voted based upon the issues.

Jesus….

Sigh.

Hey Raines, I have an idea. How about you respond to everything anyone else posts by stating “You’re wrong!” and telling them not to kid themselves. It is super convincing. I mean, I’m sure all the black people who read/write this blog are exclaiming “Why didn’t I realize?! This changes everything!” right now. Except the ones who are too deeply in denial, obviously.

The Farce is strong in this one.

Ohh, now I’m scared, Frankie Rained out!

Of course, we could also do this another way: just have bin Laden read off each party’s platform, and whichever one Americans hate less wins everything.  Yes, that seems fair.

Hey, that’s the solution to everything!