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Congress = Pwned

The National Review has been going predictably apeshit over the upholding of habeas corpus since the Supreme Court narrowly affirmed that the Constitution isn’t made of Charmin, but this bit by Andrew McCarthy makes me giggle:

It is difficult to single out the most outrageous aspect of Justice Anthony Kennedy’s majority opinion in the Supreme Court’s cataclysmic Boumediene ruling last Thursday: The reckless vesting of constitutional rights in aliens whose only connection with our body politic is their bloody jihad against Americans; the roughshod ride over binding precedent to accomplish that feat; or the smug arrogance perfectly captured by dissenting Chief Justice John Roberts’s description of a “constitutional bait and switch” — a Court that first beseeches the political branches to enact a statutory procedure for handling combatant detentions, and then, once a thoughtful law is compliantly passed, invalidates the effort for its failure to satisfy the eccentric predilections of five lawyers.

How dare the Supreme Court ask us to do something and then say it’s not good enough?

I do appreciate the idea that the Constitutional considerations embodied in the court’s first request for a better law somehow fly out the window because Congress responds to the request.  The MC Pee Pants Torture and Detainment Act of 2008 isn’t safe?  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 11:32 AM • (10) Comments

How dare the Supreme Court ask us to do something and then say it’s not good enough?

As in “separate but equal” followed by “Brown vs. Board of Education”?

Comment #1: Ms Kate  on  06/16  at  11:57 AM

I’m going to take a wild guess here and say that this Andrew McCarthy didn’t complain much about “the eccentric predilections of five lawyers” in Bush v. Gore.

Comment #2: Bitter Scribe  on  06/16  at  11:58 AM

An ATHF reference wedded to an important Constitutional decision.

I love this website.

Comment #3: The Wanderer  on  06/16  at  12:01 PM

Bitter, Bush v. Gore was an obvious case of sound legal reasoning. (how could you think otherwise?) And because they specifically said it wasn’t a precedent (just in case some Democrat manages to get in a similar situation and might benefit), it evaporated just as soon as Bush was sworn in.  Cool!

One aspect of the ruling that’s interesting is putting a stop to the recent idea that one branch of government has the power to limit where and when another branch can exercise their power.  A key argument of the Bushites is that they can declare that there are some places that are under control of America but where American law does not apply.  And at least in this situation, SCOTUS said, “No, you can’t do that.”

The 5-4 decision is too scarily close, however.  And it’s sick that fundamental Constitutional rights are one vote away from being eliminated.

Oh sure, some idiots will argue it only applies to Those Dirty Brown Foreign Terraists, but we all know Padilla might have been (in their eyes) a dirty brown terrorist, but he was/is certainly an American citizen.

The Cheney/Bush administration came in wanting to setup a police state.  So far they’ve met very little resistance.  This is one setback, but if they have their way this too shall pass…

Comment #4: MikeEss  on  06/16  at  12:13 PM

We really, really need to set up a major development project fast, because if we can harness the energy that will be available when all of these people do a 180 at once in the event of an Obama presidency, we can eliminate our dependence on foreign oil for at least a generation.

Signing statements? Undemocratic! Unrestricted presidential power during an undeclared war? Intolerable! Court appointments with even a hint of partisan bias? Unthinkable!

We should at least be able to harness the obvious and inevitable - like the fact that three-tenths of a millisecond after the swearing-in ceremony, everything bad about the economy will be back to being the President’s fault.

There are few things I had taken for granted about the way things would be in this country during my lifetime. I never foresaw a national outcry because the Supreme Court was limiting torturing uncharged prisoners. Silly me.

Comment #5: Lymis  on  06/16  at  12:54 PM

I agree with MikeEss. That 5-4 vote has been making me queasy. Especially with the “I’m going to vote McCain/Independant/Not At All” stuff I’ve been hearing online from supposed Democrats. I REALLY hope that we don’t have another 4-8 years of Republican appointments. :(

Comment #6: Faye  on  06/16  at  01:36 PM

My point of view is that Habeas Corpus rights are like torture, in that it’s not so much that you should be for or against torture based on that specific prisoner or conflict.  You treat your prisoners with respect, and respect the Geneva Convention provisions, so that your citizens are afforded the same respect and treatment when beyond the bounds of your own shoreline.  Do we really want American journalists in Lebanon or Syria classified as “enemy combatants” and jailed as spies without recourse having ceded the ability to seek international support or pressure because of our treatment of such prisoners?

Comment #7: Swedgin  on  06/16  at  03:40 PM

Serious question here as I am sure that someone else is more familiar with this ruling than I am. If an “insurgent” is captured by the US military in Iraq and held at Abu Ghraib they do not have Habeas rights, correct, but then if we bring them to gitmo they do. What happens if in response to this ruling we simply ship them back from gitmo to abu ghraib. Can someone please answer this scenario or the issues behind it. It seems like the admin. can pick and choose what rights prisoners have, even after this ruling, depending on where they choose to house them.

Comment #8: Robin Rhea  on  06/16  at  08:23 PM

Robin:

Well, yeah. Because Iraq is non-US territory in a way that Guantanamo isn’t. We don’t hold any land in Iraq (yet) under an indefinite longterm lease with the Iraqi government (such as it is) agreeing to cede administration of that territory to the US. In theory, at least, if the Iraqi government were a) functioning and b) really pissed, they could take action to stop atrocities done to people on their soil by foreign soldiers. (Well, there’s a status of forces agreement that says they can’t, but it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on…) It’s not clear, though, whether it would be legal to ship the prisoners back out of US territorial jurisdiction once they’re in; courts tend to look unfavorably on those kinds of shenanigans.

I’m trying to remember how many iterations the Communications Decency Act aka Childrens Online Protection Act aka some other things has gone through after getting dinged by the courts in each incarnation.

Comment #9: paul  on  06/16  at  09:28 PM

Swedgin, that’s one reason to treat prisoners of war humanely, but it’s not remotely the most compelling. The most compelling reason is that we should do it because we are (or aspire to be) a civilized society founded on the rule of law. We should do it because if we don’t, we would be ashamed to look at ourselves in the mirror.

The dissents in Boumedienne should serve as a preview of what’s to come if McCain is elected and gets the opportunity to appoint replacements for Stevens and anyone else who might retire during the term. The independent judiciary will be the first thing out the window if the Republicans are allowed to have their way.

Comment #10: J.V.  on  06/17  at  12:09 AM
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