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Culture warriors unite!

Gary Kamiya has a good article up at Salon about how McCain is reviving the culture war with Sarah Palin, and how frightfully enduring the culture war seems to be, able to revive dead Republicans that are besieged by ill-advised wars and economic ruin.  And he’s right, it is frightening, especially if it works.

But I have a question: Isn’t Barack Obama enough for the culture warriors?

As Kamiya outlines, culture wars are not about positive things.  Culture warriors aren’t voting for something—-they’re voting against enemies established for them by fundamentalist preachers and right wing talk radio.  If the Republicans truly feared that they couldn’t get the minions out to keep a black man out of office (and let’s not forget—-racial hierarchies are critical to the culture warriors), especially one with a funny name that culture warriors believe is a sign that he’s a secret Muslim (who they’ve deemed the Satanic enemy that must be defeated to bring Jesus back).  Isn’t voting out of fear and loathing for Barack Obama enough for them?  I would think yes.  And so I’m feeling more persuaded that the post-Palin jump in the polls is temporary.

I want to address the ideas in this paragraph:

The culture war is driven by resentment, on the one hand, and crude identification, on the other. Resentment of “elites,” “Washington insiders” and overeducated coastal snobs goes hand in hand with an unreflective, emotional identification with candidates who “are just like me.” Large numbers of Americans voted for Bush because he seemed like a regular guy, someone you’d want to have a beer with. As Thomas Frank argued in “What’s the Matter With Kansas,” ideology also played a role. As hard-line “moral values” exponent and former GOP presidential candidate Gary Bauer told the New York Times, “Joe Six-Pack doesn’t understand why the world and his culture are changing and why he doesn’t have a say in it.” The GOP appealed to Joe Six-Pack by harping on cultural issues like the “three Gs,” gods, guns and gays.

I liked “What’s The Matter With Kansas” and really adore Frank’s new book “The Wrecking Crew”, but there is one flaw in the idea that the “three Gs” culture war is mainly a distraction, a way for people to lash out at increasing modernity.  I don’t think you can really understand the three Gs without understanding the tensions that are underlying them.  “Guns” is a code word that has both aspects of anxious masculinity and racism in it—-gun fetishists imagine themselves holed up protecting their female property from hoardes of grabby non-white men.  This especially an important aspect that the NRA tries to conceal from the public with images of hunting, but sport guns aren’t on the list of those things that people want to restrict nearly so much as assault weapons.  With god and gays, though, I think the missing “W” or “F”—-for women or feminism—-explains a lot.

I know I sound like a broken record on this, but a lot of the social issues are actually economic issues, if looked at in the right light.  It’s true that economic decline contributes to the red state sense that people are being left in the dust, causing them to lash out at “liberal elites”.  But it’s also true that feminist advances have weaseled their way into conservative communities, and the subsequent transfer of so much power from men to women* happened at the same time as the economic decline and is, in the minds of many culture warriors, inseparable.  So much of the nostalgia for the mythical 50s is a belief that things were just better when women provided a disempowered, unpaid labor force.  Of course, the genie is out the bottle now, and anyway, women’s salaries are needed to keep so many families afloat, so attacking the power shift directly isn’t so easy at it might seem.

What’s fascinating to me is that from what I understand, the gay marriage movement probably gained all its steam from conservatives bellyaching about the possibility of this happening once gays got rights.  Why was gay marriage such a fear?  I think we can take social conservatives at their word on this—-gay marriage is an assault on “traditional marriage”.  It’s a scapegoat cause for all the various forces that have dismantled traditional, male-dominated marriage where women have very little power or income, but lots of work to do.  And let’s face it.  Feminism may have shifted the balance of power, but men still have more of it in marriage.  Women still do more of the housework and child-rearing, and men still enjoy the ability to make final decisions for the family.  When conservatives say that gay marriage is a threat to traditional marriage, I suspect what they mean is that de-gendered marriage will start giving women more ideas about what marriage could look like between equals.  I’m skeptical that the monolith of male-dominated heterosexual marriage will be that easy to topple, but they do have a point that it’ll help. 

That and reproductive rights are the big issues that drive so many culture warriors.  I say no duh it’s about making sure that women are put in a subservient position to men, especially those who claim them through the magical powers of penetration.  Get ‘em married early by making childbirth mandatory, putting women in a position where they have to marry.  And make sure those marriages stay unequal by barring people from it who have a different model of marriage entirely.  Some liberals scoff at the idea that Republicans will deliver these goals to social conservatives, on the theory that they won’t have anymore issues to drive them to the polls with.  Wrong!  If they are able to put gay marriage to bed and criminalize abortion, next on the list are challenges to no-fault divorce and female-controlled contraception. 

Anyway, I’ve gone on long enough about it.  Here’s more reading on Sarah Palin so that you can see what a vile sister-punisher and homophobe she is.  I was curious how Palin, who belongs to a Bible-thumping “STFU ladies” church, reconciled the Christian mandate to be submissive to your husband with the fact that she outranked him as governor. Looks like she might do it by letting him make the final decisions about how she does her job.  Scary.

*Mind you, men still have more power than women.  But it’s more like 60/40 or 70/30 instead of 90/10 nowadays.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 01:43 PM • (33) Comments

“Girls” starts with “G”. In a culture warrior’s eyes “girls” are indistinguishable from “women”.

Or perhaps “Guyhood?”

Comment #1: kaje  on  09/15  at  01:56 PM

Get ‘em married early by making childbirth mandatory, putting women in a position where they have to marry.

I really think this is a cornerstone for a lot of culture warriors, especially on their own turf and in areas that are still under their direct power.

My mother, proud member of the idiotic Right, is scared SHITLESS that I’m not already married with multiple children.  She is convinced that, at 27, my fertility is in freefall, and that at this point I will NEVER HAVE CHILDREN.  Even though I have at least a good 10-15 childbearing years in me.  And even though adoption exists, and a million fertility treatments exist (and are covered by my insurance, even!).  And of course even though I won’t shrivel up and die if I never have children.  She is practically ready to haul me over to WalMart and auction me off to the highest toothless mouthbreathing ass-scratching bidder. 

Which is sort of the kicker—at this point she doesn’t seem to care whether I have a partner who makes me happy, or is even a particularly good match for me.  She wants me barefoot and pregnant and in the kitchen, NOW.  Having some cute little job for a few years after college is all well and good, but if I"m not careful, I’ll start getting ideas or even think I belong in the world of men rather than trying to balance a kid on one hip and a bag of groceries on the other.

It’s not lost on me that all the culture warriors I grew up with got married in their early 20’s (regardless of generation—I’m not talking about people who are “of a different time”) and had children right away, while the Coastal Liberal Elites I’ve found a place with tend to wait.  The liberal coastal elites also tend to be in favor of women’s rights and equality and general freedom to be yourself and explore the world, and all sorts of small-L liberal ideas.  The culture warriors are aghast.

Comment #2: The Opoponax  on  09/15  at  02:13 PM

Amanda, I think that the whole against gay marriage thing is not about women getting ideas about being equals. I think it really is from “hate teh gay” from Leviticus and that gay marriage just feels and sounds yucky. Some actually believe that if gay marriage becomes legalized, a whole lot of people will be “tempted” to join the “life style”. Seriously. Remember a lot of them believe that it is a life style and that it is curable. In other words they really do believe that family, the basic blocks society is made of, will break down if/when gay marriage becomes legalized.

Comment #3: M.O.  on  09/15  at  02:17 PM

Economics is certainly a key part of their dilemma; which makes their voting against their economic interests vis-a-vis the republican party, even more astounding. But, I would also argue that right along with that is the fact that the states where McCain leads are, in general, the least educated and least smart states. In other words, when you are uneasy with words and complex thoughts, you go for pictures and symbols and you BELIEVE. Your belief is the fundamental ruler of your life. If a fact doesn’t fit your belief, out it goes. To them, the unexamined life is precisely the life worth living. I never realized how strong this was until I moved to Tennessee from NJ/MASS. The idea of simple belief without questioning is so fundamental here, it is beyond scary. They BELIEVE the civil war was the war of northern aggression; they BELIEVE God watches everything they do- right down to praying at a coed rec softball game for God’s attention (happened right in front of me); they BELIEVE Obama is a Muslim; they believe that McPalin will regulate the financial markets even though Repub. ideology is ‘free market’; they BELIEVE the universe is only thousands of years old.

I would be more understanding of them if they made a ‘leap of faith’ from reason to belief; but here it just is. From what I can tell, there is no leap at all because reasoning is useless. They would have been quite at home with the idea the earth is the center of the universe. And you cannot argue belief versus fact with a believer because belief is independent of fact; as they will always tell you.

Comment #4: tom  on  09/15  at  02:21 PM

“Men - barbecuing.  ‘I like you.’  ‘I like you too, dawg.’  ‘Let’s get married.’  IT’S CRAZY!”

“But what about the -”

“THAT SHIT IS GROSS!”

- Dave Chappelle, Black Bush on gay marriage

Comment #5: Atheist Feminazi  on  09/15  at  02:30 PM

To them, the unexamined life is precisely the life worth living. I never realized how strong this was until I moved to Tennessee from NJ/MASS. The idea of simple belief without questioning is so fundamental here, it is beyond scary. They BELIEVE the civil war was the war of northern aggression; they BELIEVE God watches everything they do- right down to praying at a coed rec softball game for God’s attention (happened right in front of me); they BELIEVE Obama is a Muslim; they believe that McPalin will regulate the financial markets even though Repub. ideology is ‘free market’; they BELIEVE the universe is only thousands of years old.

Oh yes.  And none of it necessarily needs to have any connection whatsoever to fact..  I recently had a discussion about gay marriage and gay rights in general with my mom, who was taking the point that gay marriage will never be legal because the vast majority of Americans just think homosexuality is wrong, and that’s that.  To underscore her point she told me that everyone who was involved with the TV show Ellen had a really hard time finding work after the show was canceled because they lost their sponsorship due to the offense they caused everyone in America.

Ellen Degeneres’ talk show was on the television at that very moment.t.  You know, the one that comes on every day, on daytime network TV, which I believe Ellen herself is the executive producer of?  Which my mom watches religiously?

Comment #6: The Opoponax  on  09/15  at  02:37 PM

Opoponax, I knew a lady who watched Ellen every day, but she detested the fact that Ellen is a lesbian.

Comment #7: The Dark Avenger and Guardian of 10 Gold Chow Mein  on  09/15  at  02:43 PM

Oh, it wasn’t so much a matter of my mom being personally homophobic or whatever—it’s the fact that she had the nerve to insist that she’d been blackballed from TV, while watching her TV show.

Comment #8: The Opoponax  on  09/15  at  02:50 PM

Amanda, I think that the whole against gay marriage thing is not about women getting ideas about being equals. I think it really is from “hate teh gay” from Leviticus and that gay marriage just feels and sounds yucky.

This is a both/and blog.  It can and is both.

Comment #9: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/15  at  02:58 PM

Some liberals scoff at the idea that Republicans will deliver these goals to social conservatives, on the theory that they won’t have anymore issues to drive them to the polls with.  Wrong!  If they are able to put gay marriage to bed and criminalize abortion, next on the list are challenges to no-fault divorce and female-controlled contraception. 

There was some truth in that in the past, when there were enough moderates in the GOP to keep those things at bay.  The moderates have been driven out and there’s nothing to stop them from overturning Roe and banning gay marriage via the Constitution.  And when they accomplish those goals, they WILL go after contraception.  Hell, they already are, with the attempts to let fundie pharmacists deny it to women.

Comment #10: Donna  on  09/15  at  03:19 PM

Heh, great minds and all that. I saw an article yesterday, and this jumped out at me:

Despite holding no government position, [Todd Palin] attends official meetings and is copied on e-mails concerning state business.

Comment #11: ema  on  09/15  at  03:29 PM

In addition to the resentment and authoritarianism that permeates the beings of culture warriors, many of them are straight up pervs.  Saturday night I got cornered at a party by a young man who described himself as a ‘pro-life Democrat’.  He proceeded to peddle forced birther bullshit about how Planned Parenthood is all about making money YET they target low income women by locating their centers in poor communities.  Because it would make so much sense for a non-profit organization that serves everyone to have locations in wealthy communities with no public transportation.  He then told me about the wonderful alternative that ‘crisis pregnancy centers’ offer to women by showing them ultrasounds.  The fact that the kid was an idiot was irritating enough but he also made a point of talking quite a bit about his own sexual desires and what he perceived to be the personal lives of his college classmates.  I got the hell away from him.

Comment #12: Donna  on  09/15  at  03:31 PM

I got my Master’s degree at a state U in the peckerwood Florida panhandle. As a 21-year-old, single woman, I got a ton of shit for not being married, or at least having the excuse of having gotten divorced already. In fact, I was under suspicion as being “one of them les-beens,” because I didn’t want to get married until I’d finished my Doctorate, and between working full-time and going to school full-time, I wasn’t that in to dating the latest toothless NASCAR fan who whistled at me.

I had one supervisor tell me I was wasting my money anyway, since I was “so cute I’d get knocked up one way or another” before I finished school.

There are large swaths of the US where women are measured by their fuckability/uterus capacity.

Comment #13: Crabby  on  09/15  at  03:34 PM

The culture warriors’ obsession with marrying people off early seems to mirror polygamist sects’ practice of marrying girls off horrifyingly young.  The latter example is more extreme certainly, but the whole point of marrying those girls young is to ensure that they have no other options.  They’re too young to have the presence of mind to say no, they’re too young to have gained any real education or work skills, and, once they have children, they can’t leave unless they want to leave those children behind.  It’s a very convenient practice in a society that says that marrying 4+ wives is a ticket to heaven—for the husband, not for the wives.

The culture warriors’ motivation isn’t as easy to pin down.  It almost seems like they want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.

Comment #14: keshmeshi  on  09/15  at  03:48 PM

Word, Crabby. 

An acquaintance of mine went on a look-see to Baylor’s law school and came away badly unsettled by the negative reactions to her as a single mother.  She went elsewhere.

Comment #15: seeker6079  on  09/15  at  03:50 PM

they believe that McPalin will regulate the financial markets even though Repub. ideology is ‘free market’...

I don’t think much has changed since the study done before the 2004 election.  iirc, the study showed a high correlation on the political left between their candidates’ positions and what their supporters believed to be their positions, and a much-diminished correlation between the two on the right. 

Put another way, those on the left knew their candidates’ policies and supported them if they supported the policies.  Those on the right voted on the basis of what they believed their candidate supported.  This was exceptionally high on matters which are supported by large majorities of the population; for example, 7 or 8 or so of Americans out of ten want to protect the environment; people on the right would vote for Bush believing that he was protecting the environment, even when it was easily discovered that this was not so.

This is, I believe, the key reason for the fact that drives so many progressives nuts: large swathes of the American public will consistently vote for the GOP and for specific candidates who are dead set against policies that these same voters tell pollsters that strongly support.  People want affordable health care, are against white collar crime and for the environment… then they walk into a booth and pull the lever for the GOP.  It’s enough to madden a saint.

What’s that line from The West Wing?  About raising stupidity and disinterest an almost zen-like level.

Comment #16: seeker6079  on  09/15  at  03:58 PM

keshmeshi, I see both groups having exactly the same motivations, it’s just that the culture warriors aren’t quite as extreme and don’t actually allow men to marry plural wives.  The stuff about wanting to keep women’ options limited is certainly still true.

It took until I was 22 or 23 for me to realize that it didn’t matter whether or not I ever got married or even settled down with one person.  That I didn’t have to start thinking marriage every time I really hit it off with someone.  That I have plenty of time to figure all this stuff out, and if I never do, well that’s also OK.  And even now there’s a a fragment of me that feels this weird sense of shame and dread and loss because I know I won’t be married with a baby by 30.  As if that means anything for my value as a human being, or even for frivolous things like my personal happiness.

And I got out!  And I’m queer!  And a radical feminist lefty!  And I want one kid, tops, and have no qualms about whether I actually pop it out myself or not!  I don’t want to imagine the dread other less radicalized women face.

Comment #17: The Opoponax  on  09/15  at  03:59 PM

Amanda already responed, but I was about to say that I do think it is both a general fear of Teh Gay as M.O mentioned and a fear of women being empowered as Amanda mentioned.

I just came home from spending the weekend with my grandparents. They are religious and up until a few years ago, I would have said that they are the kind of people that actually follow the positive parts of Christianity, not the weird far right kind of Christianity. They worked a lot with foster children, without pushing any religion on them (I know because I was at the foster home a lot, as I was a kid/teenager at the time too), helped the less fortunate, worked hard, but didn’t want for much.

But my grandmother, in the last few years, has gone off the deep end. To the point that my mom and I call her less, and it makes us feel bad, because we love her and she is getting older.

She spent 4 hours on Friday, from the time I woke up to the time where I finally went outside because I was about to cry, just talking nonsense to me. I didn’t understand what she was talking about at points, but I did make out such gems as “women trying to be men” and “losing their femininity” and “gods law and government law” and “society makes people think they can do things that god doesn’t want them to do” and ugh I can’t even keep thinking about it. I am going to try to gather my thoughts about it and put something up on teh Feministing Community site later.

But my point is that yes, part of her issue with Gay Marriage is the “hate teh gay” bible stuff, but she also sees it as part of the larger problem of society saying things are allowable when god forbids them, and that is why we see things like women working when they should be baby machines.

Thanks for writing this Amanada. You say it a lot, but with very good reason.

Comment #18: Daisy  on  09/15  at  04:11 PM

I’d call it the four G’s - god, guns, gays and girls.  In small town Utah where my family lives, my sister - in her 40s, a business owner, competent, smart, tough as nails - still gets called a “girl” on a daily basis.  She’s not a woman, she’s a girl and I don’t think that is accidental.

Comment #19: glendenb  on  09/15  at  04:25 PM

“Those on the right voted on the basis of what they believed their candidate supported. “

Truer words were never spoken.

I have to tell this story because it still totally stuns me and perfectly illustrates your point.  I’m good friends with a woman whom I would call a moderate Democrat.  We were discussing politics and I was horrified that she was considering voting for John McCain (she’s still kind of pissy about Hillary losing).  I pointed out that his positions on a number of issues are in complete opposition to her beliefs, particularly regarding abortion.  I referred to his voting record and his recent statements.  Her response was, “Well, I don’t think he really thinks that way…”  I told her that I don’t give a fuck what he really thinks.  I care about how he votes and his record is clear.  She remains unconvinced. 

The real kicker, the thing that blows my mind, is that we used to work together AT A WOMEN’S CLINIC.  We were both patient counselors for women having abortions!!  Hell, she had an abortion herself back before it was legal.  She’s a pro-choice as they come!  I haven’t been able to have dinner with her since.  I’m afraid I’ll just start yelling at her.

Comment #20: BadKitty  on  09/15  at  04:35 PM

Am I the only one who has Frank Burns’ wonderful line running through my head?

“Individuality’s fine as long as we all do it together!”

Comment #21: seeker6079  on  09/15  at  04:35 PM

Absolutely right, Amanda.  Abortion and gay marriage are hot-button issues because they’re not really about abortion and gay marriage: they’re useful catchalls for a whole host of ideas, fervently held on both sides, about sexual freedom and gender roles.  George Lakoff does a great analysis of why gay marriage really is a threat to traditional marriage, if your definition of “traditional marriage” is an arrangement where a man purchases a woman for sex and housework.  And, yes, at the core, a lot of it is driven by economic panic and working-class men’s feelings of increasing powerlessness.  (Similarly, a lot of the anger over illegal immigration, another popular button-pusher, is really anger over blue-collar paychecks being siphoned out of the U.S. economy.  If you can’t do anything about a multinational corporation giving your job to a sweatshop laborer on the other side of the world, you can still yell slurs at that Mexican housepainter across the street.)

I’m more optimistic than you, because I do think that “traditional marriage” as social conservatives define it is falling apart.  We’ve still got quite a ways to go, but in addition to women gaining more social and economic power and thus more options, the legal assumption that a husband owns his wife has been gradually demolished over the course of the past century.  I think what we’re seeing now are the death throes of marriage as an inherently unequal relationship.  The culture warriors’ reaction is violent precisely because they know they’re losing.

Comment #22: Shaenon  on  09/15  at  04:56 PM

Some liberals scoff at the idea that Republicans will deliver these goals to social conservatives, on the theory that they won’t have anymore issues to drive them to the polls with.

I have noticed this as well, especially on the internet. It is as if some liberals view the culture warriors as being too crazy to actually accomplish their goals. It seems to me that these liberals are mistaken.

When I say this to the liberals in question, they act as if I was joking. Very frustrating.

Comment #23: atheist  on  09/15  at  04:57 PM

I agree with atheist.  Tolerance as a motivator has nothing, absolutely nothing on hate and fear.

Comment #24: seeker6079  on  09/15  at  05:10 PM

seeker:

the study showed a high correlation on the political left between their candidates’ positions and what their supporters believed to be their positions, and a much-diminished correlation between the two on the right.

That’s my anecdotal experience, as well. It’s not particularly surprising.

But let’s just get right to the point. The fact is that these “culture wars” are inherently and necessarily fascist. Scapegoating social out-groups for a society’s economic woes (real, perceived, or propagandized, it doesn’t matter) is the bread and butter of right-wing authoritarianism.

Comment #25: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  09/15  at  05:16 PM

Also fascist is the deliberate maintenance of ignorance to enable compliance, amongst other things, Dan.

Comment #26: seeker6079  on  09/15  at  05:22 PM

a little picky here: “reconciled the Christian mandate to be submissive to your husband with the fact that she outranked him as governor. “

WTH??? I wasn’t aware civilians had ranks.  Or is he in the Alaska State Guard?

Comment #27: Eric, Rejector of Memez  on  09/15  at  06:12 PM

WTH??? I wasn’t aware civilians had ranks.

And the medal for (deliberately?) shooting about 12 miles wide of the point goes to….Eric!

Comment #28: Well, what?  on  09/15  at  06:25 PM

WTH??? I wasn’t aware civilians had ranks.  Or is he in the Alaska State Guard?

Did you miss all of the conservative complaints about First Lady Hillary Clinton directing policy and how it was horrible because she was unelected?  I guarantee you that it will all be forgotten and now First Spouses will be touted as important policy sounding boards.  As long as they’re Republicans, of course.

Comment #29: Mnemosyne  on  09/15  at  07:33 PM

While we’re doing both/and, remember that women in “traditional” marriages are economically speaking a lot like same-sex couples in the unmarried state: continued comfort and survival depend on the continuation of the relationship. For the culture-war jerkwads, the woman who is dumped after menopause with no marketable skills and minimal claim to marital assets and the same-sex partner barred by law from claiming survivor benefits for pensions or social security, or spousal coverage for insurance, or joint tenancy in a house are both getting what they deserve.

Comment #30: paul  on  09/15  at  09:33 PM

Did you miss all of the conservative complaints about First Lady Hillary Clinton directing policy and how it was horrible because she was unelected?

I was just saying this exact thing this afternoon!  The ranting about ‘we don’t want co-presidents…’  Meanwhile, Palin’s husband is sitting in on meetings, working on the budget, etc.  Amazing!

Comment #31: Kristen from MA  on  09/15  at  09:53 PM

I’m more optimistic than you, because I do think that “traditional marriage” as social conservatives define it is falling apart.

Oh yeah, I actually agree.  But progress is just not going to happen overnight.  And god knows that even progressives in our day and age find themselves in unequal heterosexual relationships.

Comment #32: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/16  at  01:03 AM

I’d describe myself as a culture warrior (or at least an armchair culture warrior), but I’m not on the side of stupidity and dogma. wink

Comment #33: Doug S.  on  09/16  at  04:23 PM
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