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David Vitter survives because, not despite, of the prostitution angle

Niall Stanage has a piece up at Salon examining how David Vitter has managed to survive a rather comical sex scandal involving prostitutes and diaper-wearing. He makes a lot of good points about the situation in Louisiana and how Vitter is benefiting, but I think it’s useful to think about why the scandal itself doesn’t seem to hurt Vitter, when other Republicans—-even ones who have straight sex like Mark Sanford and John Ensign—-were so dramatically damaged by falling in the eyes of the “family values” crowd.  Stanage addresses these specifics towards the end.

There is another element to Vitter’s resilient popularity worth mentioning: the nature of his offense. His encounter was (presumably) with a woman; the fact that he used an escort agency rather than picking up a prostitute from a street corner; that rumors of other similar episodes have not been substantiated; that he has stayed with his wife and family: All of this probably helps his case seem less egregious than, say, the male restroom arrest that ended Idaho Sen. Larry Craig’s career.

“Same-sex [scandal] would be a killer,” Maginiss says. “Or even if there was evidence that this is part of a pattern of continuing behavior—that would be hard to overcome.”

I’m going to take a moment to point out that I’m sure most people, especially evangelical Christians, are probably full well aware that it was not a one-time deal. 

Jessi Fischer, a California-based writer on sexuality who blogs as “The Sexademic,” suggests that the contrast between the cases of Vitter and Craig “is significant because when you are talking about people having a kind of moral panic, often what we are talking about is the crossing of boundaries. That could be when the two people are of the same sex, but something like race and the crossing of racial boundaries affects these things as well.”

“You can’t cross too many boundaries at once,” she advises.

I think a lot of this is getting close but missing the point.  The question at hand is why Vitter is able to sell himself to “family values” conservatives, and the assumption here is that going to prostitutes is transgressive in a way that it should be especially threatening to them.  But I think the problem here is applying liberal values to the situation.  But “family values” is really just a euphemism conservatives use for supporting the patriarchy.  In this worldview, I’d argue that it’s less of a problem if a man goes to a prostitute than if he does something confusing and emasculating, such as expressing affection for a woman outside of the dutiful bounds of marriage.  The fundie worldview, especially, has never been one that pretends that men don’t feel lust.  On the contrary, they tend to argue that, when it comes to sex, men are basically uncaged animals who can’t control their own behavior very well, and so society has to do it for them.  When you read a lot of evangelical grappling with pornography, this comes across loud and clear.  Men who look at pornography are considered “addicted”, and the main concern is that it might weaken the sexual bonds in the marriage and lead to a divorce.  I wouldn’t say I see a lack of understanding as to why men would look at porn.  In fact, the fundie obsession with eliminating distribution makes it clear that they think men are mostly unable to control themselves.  The internet has changed things somewhat; realizing that you can’t stop porn on the internet has made space in the evangelical world to talk about men actually taking self-control.  But their preferred worldview is one where men are tempted by sex (not so much by love), and the women who tempt them bear the blame.


Going to prostitutes fits neatly into this worldview.  Prostitutes don’t count as real people in the patriarchal world.  Women barely count as people when they follow all the rules, so of course those who don’t are cast way out.  I’d also say that the Madonna/whore syndrome is something “family values” types are completely familiar with, and in fact it’s hard really to imagine how their worldview works without it.  It’s a worldview that posits that all men are lust-driven, but women—-at least good ones—-are romance and family oriented.  And that these two things are opposed, and in fact that it’s a woman’s duty to control a man’s otherwise uncontrollable sexuality.  Respectful women who become wives are categorically different than women who do dirty, exciting sex acts.  Honestly, it’s sort of expected that men will forever be trapped in between the sex they can have with their wives and the sex that they want, and that therefore men are going to slip up constantly (and that women should be understanding).  When the slip-ups happen, they’re usually not blamed on the man, either, but on the world for tempting him and on his wife not trying hard enough.  Even though by their own reckoning, there’s nothing a wife can really do to tame the pervert within a man.

In sum, there’s nothing about a man going to a prostitute that’s overly upsetting.  Prostitutes don’t count to conservatives as real women, wives are expected to be forgiving and probably self-blaming if this happens, the marriage is intact, what’s the real problem here?  Affairs are much more distressing, since they do pose a threat to the marriage.  More importantly, affairs challenge the patriarchal argument that the only way women can really get love is by being chaste and submissive. 

I think this paragraph sums up why there’s no conflict between social conservative values and David Vitter and his staff:

Democrats are also pushing a story that emerged last week about a Vitter aide, Brent Furer, who pleaded guilty in 2008 to misdemeanor charges relating to a dispute with an ex-girlfriend. Vitter had known of the domestic incident for two years, a spokesman told the Associated Press, but ultimately kept Furer on staff. Vitter accepted Furer’s resignation last week after learning that there was still a live warrant for the aide’s arrest in Baton Rouge in relation to a DWI charge.

If you accept that the “family values” framing is basically pro-patriarchy, this all makes perfect sense.  Beating a girlfriend doesn’t rise to the level of a fireable offense, because women aren’t so much people as support staff for men.  But a DWI?  That could actually damage property, or take out another man’s family, which amounts to the same thing.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 10:24 AM • (39) Comments

But why doesn’t the “diaper” part cause more trouble for him?  When the bizarre astronaut love triangle thing went down, the fact that one wore a “diaper” as she drove (so she wouldn’t have to stop) was the one detail everyone seemed to seize on.  Why does Vitter get a pass on it in this other context?

Comment #1: curtp  on  06/29  at  11:53 AM

I think you’re misinterpreting the specific reason for the firing.  It’s not that a DWI is treated as worse, it’s because it became public he’s a fugitive for something which means associating Vitter with a live court case.  The 2008 arrest and conviction was old news before it came to significant public attention, so that could be lumped under that “forgiveness” thing that’s the great get out of jail free card for the Christian right.

Comment #2: KeithM  on  06/29  at  12:02 PM

curtp, the person wearing the diaper was a woman.  Women aren’t supposed to have kinks. 

(Not to mention that it wasn’t a sexual thing, she just didn’t want to have to stop to pee while she drove.)

If this were a case where Vitter had a girlfriend who liked diaper play and got him to participate against his will, it would be very much more damaging, because he and his kink are not in control of the situation.  But it’s almost impossible to imagine this happening, because men supposedly always call the shots in the sex acts they will perform.

Men can have all kinds of odd sexual kinks, and so long as it’s at least nominally heterosexual (it was a woman diapering him), and they are the choosers of when, where, and what kind of sex to have, it’s pretty much okay.  The gatekeeper role of women is just to say yes or no to whatever he’s suggesting.  Doing anything but signaling her availability is castrating because what if he can’t perform at that moment?  Disaster.

I think it’s also of a piece with the (false) idea that men are more “extreme” (e.g. more idiots and more geniuses) that men are also more adventurous sexually and are the creative and initiative actors in sex.  Women are the bland middle, unless of course they’re “crazy.”  In which case they could be a great fuck but scary otherwise, because they don’t let the man take the lead.

Comment #3: oldfeminist  on  06/29  at  12:05 PM

The diaper thing also wasn’t covered extensively.  I’m sure most people don’t know about that aspect.

Comment #4: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/29  at  12:14 PM

Words of wisdom from Paster Glenn Beck, Church of the Holy Wingnut, Mormon Branch:
“Suit yourself, lady. I’m telling you right now, you made the rules, but you’re playing with fire here. I’ve got some rules, too, and rule number one is, don’t tease the panther.”

It’s obvious that women are completely responsible for everything bad that happens to them.  And it all starts with breaking Rule Number One.  After that, who knows what will be unleashed in a man’s savage breast?...

Comment #5: MikeEss  on  06/29  at  12:19 PM

the fundie obsession with eliminating distribution makes it clear that they think men are mostly unable to control themselves.

Yes, and it’s the same with their homophobia. We laugh at the idea that homosexuality is a threat to straight marriage, but it really is a threat to the marriages of closeted Christian homosexuals, a category which apparently applies to pretty much their entire leadership.

Comment #6: chuckling  on  06/29  at  12:22 PM

I grew up in Louisiana and I’m trying to remember the last time a sex scandal took down a politician of any stripe, and the only one I can think of is Bob Livingston right before he was supposed to succeed Newt Gingrich. And with Livingston, it wasn’t a single scandal that did him in—it was reports of multiple affairs which were going to be exposed in the wake of the Clinton impeachment. He couldn’t disappear fast enough.

I’m reminded of a quote from the former governor of Louisiana, Edwin Edwards, which neatly illustrates your point, Amanda. He said “the only way I’ll lose an election is if I get caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.” He knew what lines were acceptable for him to cross and which ones weren’t.

Comment #7: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  06/29  at  12:26 PM

Yes.  Objectifying women is such a central part of the republican platform that sleeping with a sex worker practically constitutes a vow of allegiance to the cause.

I think part of the confusion is people think about how outraged republicans were over Monica Lewinsky and wonder why they’re not as outraged when a republican treats a woman like crap.  I think the answer is, Bill Clinton’s blowjob was a challenge to republicans’ own identity as the masculine, woman-objectifying party.  That’s what got them so stirred up.  The more outraged republicans are about something (e.g., gay sex), the more likely it is they want to participate.

Comment #8: ryang  on  06/29  at  12:32 PM

I blame Stormy Daniels. Mainly because she wimped out on her Senate campaign.

Comment #9: BrianX  on  06/29  at  12:35 PM

When I was a kid growing up, there were several wealthy men in town who openly kept mistresses.  They sometimes took them out to dinner, and certainly felt no need to hide it.  Everyone sympathized with the wives that the husbands did this in public, but no one ever expressed that he shouldn’t have a mistress or that the wife should leave him.  I guess everyone made the assumption that this was “the way things were,”  ie the Patriarchy.  BTW, the men were in church every Sunday with their wives and children.

Comment #10: jackspratt  on  06/29  at  12:50 PM

No, it (the diaper aspect) was not extensively covered, in fact, the msm barely covered it at all and couldn’t drop it fast enough. If you do not read blogs you might never know that this particular act was involved.

Comment #11: JennyLI  on  06/29  at  01:48 PM

Well the good news is that Vitter is running against a Democrat who opposes cap-and-trade, and health care reform, and creating more taxpayer funding for abortion*, and extending hate crime legislation to protecting homosexuals…

Oh, what’s that? Vitter’s going to win the election because there’s not much of a difference between him and his opponent? How weird is that!

*Planned Parenthood gets ~$350 million a year from the government. Every taxpayer in the US is paying less than 2 bucks a year to give millions of women STI/STD testing, cancer testing, birth control, and (omgz!) abortions. To sane people that doesn’t sound bad, but if you think women aren’t human then it sounds like a big deal.

Comment #12: artiofab  on  06/29  at  02:11 PM

There’s that, too.  Americans, when faced with two conservatives to vote for, tend to vote for the one who is way more honest about it.

Comment #13: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/29  at  02:22 PM

There’s also local concerns at play. It’s always seen as a risk to vote for a new guy as the new guy is at the bottom of the totem pole, and as such is seen as unable to get as much pork for the area. That’s a big reason why incumbents have such an edge. And if you want to get rid of them, you really do have to “go big” and give big answers and big differences to the status quo.

That said, “family values” is basically meaningless. When they say that, they are lying. There’s a whole laundry list of things, that if family was to be valued above all other factors, that could be done, including better wages, reducing the work week, family health care, etc. They simply mean keeping the patriarchy going when they talk about “family values”. Nothing more, nothing less. And part of that truly is the empty responsibility of that brand of Christianity.

Comment #14: Karmakin  on  06/29  at  02:57 PM

Shouldn’t the post title be “David Vitter survives because of, not despite, the prostitution angle”?

Comment #15: Unree  on  06/29  at  03:09 PM

I’ve thought the same thing for quite awhile, Amanda: the Family Values crowd are, of course, hypocrites, but only their devotion to the patriarchy could explain Vitter getting away scott free with a prostitution bust.

Comment #16: judybrowni  on  06/29  at  03:38 PM

The odds are also that the guy who knows where to find prostitutes who do diapering also knows what a lot of other members of the GOP like.

Comment #17: paul  on  06/29  at  03:43 PM

Don’t forget something even simpler than this: GOP omerta. The reason Vitter, Sanford and Ensign survive is partially because, after the initial revelation, no one says anything - the Code of Silence kicks in. When a Democrat gets into a scandal, everyone runs to the media. When a Republican gets into trouble, they tell the media “go fuck yourselves.” Which the media dutifully do, in order not to get angry e-mails from Rush listeners.

Not that Amanda’s thesis here is wrong; just that there’s a larger dynamic at work too. If Vitter’s scandal kept on for months and became a total embarrassment to anyone who even thought about supporting him, he’d be gone.

Comment #18: RickMassimo  on  06/29  at  03:43 PM

I blame Stormy Daniels. Mainly because she wimped out on her Senate campaign.

She crunched the numbers and concluded she couldn’t beat Vitter in a fundraising match.  I can’t blame her for failing meet the challenge of a multi-million dollar war chest.

Oh, what’s that? Vitter’s going to win the election because there’s not much of a difference between him and his opponent? How weird is that!

In order to run for office, you need corporate sponsors or a vast store of independent wealth (or both).  That’s simply the nature of the game right now.  Taking corporate money will force you to vote more conservatively, since you don’t want to scare of current or future donors.  What’s more, there’s a serious “politics is full of evil fuckers” angle that allows otherwise respectable and competent individuals to get blown away by smear campaigns and dirty tricks.  You better believe Vitter has an army of supporters ready to undermine any competitor publicly and personally.  Going into a Senate race takes balls of brass.

The “warrior liberal” largely died off in the 80s and 90s.  Gerrymandering has taken a lot of the political power out of the cities and exported it to the suburbs.  The state that elected Huey Long no longer has the political will to do better than Mary Landerieu.  It’s going to be a long slog to turn that around.

Comment #19: Zifnab25  on  06/29  at  03:45 PM

Do you get some kind of notification when I link to your stuff off of Facebook?  I feel like you should have some idea of how influential you are to me and my social circle.

Comment #20: Punditus Maximus  on  06/29  at  03:56 PM

You better believe Vitter has an army of supporters ready to undermine any competitor publicly and personally.  Going into a Senate race takes balls of brass.

I am very confused by why Charlie Melancon is not running very simple campaign ads.

“I’m Charlie Melancon and I want to be your Senator. I have never been to a prostitute.”

Unless he has been to a prostitute (which Vitter’s army of supporters would quickly find out) then I don’t see the point in not bringing that up.

Comment #21: artiofab  on  06/29  at  03:59 PM

“Unless he has been to a prostitute (which Vitter’s army of supporters would quickly find out) then I don’t see the point in not bringing that up.”

Then Vitter says:
“I want to make the government better serve Louisianans, but my opponent is only interested in the tired politics of personal destruction. 

We have a run-away deficit in Washington and irresponsible spending on personal earmarks.  Mr. Obama is destroying freedom in America and imposing government control of Medicare and Social Security.  We need someone who’ll stand up and say ‘No!’ to the bureaucrats.  We need to make sure America stays safe, and strong. 

But my opponent is only interested in dredging up issues from the past. 

It’s time to re-elect a leader who supports the American family, who can create jobs in Louisiana, and who can bring back accountability to Washington.  Vote Vitter for US Senate in 2010.

I’m David Vitter and I approve this message…”

Comment #22: MikeEss  on  06/29  at  04:30 PM

It’s just raw power. Vitter will deliver the goods by being the monstrous jackass and corporate tool that the Republicans of Louisiana want to represent them, and he’ll punch hippies for them, so what he does in his free time is his own concern.

Comment #23: felagund  on  06/29  at  04:36 PM

I’m reminded of a quote from the former governor of Louisiana, Edwin Edwards, which neatly illustrates your point, Amanda. He said “the only way I’ll lose an election is if I get caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.” He knew what lines were acceptable for him to cross and which ones weren’t.

The funny thing about that Edwards’ quote is that he was basically 100% correct.  The man epitomized corruption, and he is now spending his post-gubernatorial life serving a ten year sentence in federal prison on racketeering charges.

The 1991 Louisiana gubernatorial election left voters in that state with two lousy choices - they could either vote for a Klansman (David Duke) or a criminal (Edwin Edwards).  They chose the criminal, but only because he was quite literally the lesser of the two evils available.

Louisiana, Alaska, and Illinois all seem to be quite famous for the corruption of their elected officials.

Comment #24: DTGslu2K  on  06/29  at  04:50 PM

Well the good news is that Vitter is running against a Democrat who opposes cap-and-trade, and health care reform, and creating more taxpayer funding for abortion*, and extending hate crime legislation to protecting homosexuals…

Yaaaaayyyy!! I have to admit I was worried there for a moment with Amanda’s naunced post, but at last I see that I can haul out my favourite gospel song - “The IOKIYAR Chorus”...

Comment #25: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  06/29  at  05:28 PM

They chose the criminal, but only because he was quite literally the lesser of the two evils available.

The one good thing that came out of that election was perhaps the greatest political bumpersticker of all time. It read “Vote for the Crook. It’s Important.”

Comment #26: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  06/29  at  05:29 PM

We laugh at the idea that homosexuality is a threat to straight marriage, but it really is a threat to the marriages of closeted Christian homosexuals, a category which apparently applies to pretty much their entire leadership.

This.  Every time the subject comes up, I’m reminded of that xtian wingnut editorial from a few years back arguing that decriminalizing gay sex would make it ‘irresistible.’  It said a lot more than the authors intended.

Comment #27: Sour Kraut  on  06/29  at  06:53 PM

Yeahhhhhhh, those LAWS are what keeps me away.

Comment #28: Eric_RoM  on  06/29  at  08:03 PM

“Unless he has been to a prostitute (which Vitter’s army of supporters would quickly find out) then I don’t see the point in not bringing that up.”

Then Vitter says:

“Unlike my opponent, I have proof that my dick works. This message approved by David Vitter.”

Hey, it cuts out the middleman on all that anxious masculinity. It’s what the “family values” types are just gagging to hear anyways.

Comment #29: Bagelsan  on  06/29  at  08:49 PM

I’m reminded of that xtian wingnut editorial from a few years back arguing that decriminalizing gay sex would make it ‘irresistible.’ It said a lot more than the authors intended.

Well, there is the other possibility that the people saying that sort of thing are straight but assumes that apparently no one else is as straight as they are.  Of course, that’s likely because they see so many closeted peers and assume it must be the same for everyone.

Incidentally, I’m invited to wedding next month, as a cousin of one of the brides.  Since I haven’t been to a wedding in ages, I was wondering, what do you wear as a guest to an even bringing damnation to Earth?

Comment #30: KeithM  on  06/29  at  09:22 PM

Louisiana, Alaska, and Illinois all seem to be quite famous for the corruption of their elected officials.
Comment #24: Murrow Fan on 06/29 at 03:50 PM

With a few notable exceptions, Paul Simon, Peter Fitzgerald and Barack Obama among them.

Comment #31: phylosopher  on  06/29  at  10:03 PM

There’s one other larger view here that I don’t think has been given attention:  the christian male right winger respects someone who has the power and money to go to a prostitute when they want.  It’s one of the main items on their toy list, which, if long enough, means they win.  A good christian who’s also a wealthy wannabe will look at a guy who can buy sex whenever he wants with nothing but envy and admiration.  And he can even talk to his girlfriend or wife about it in exactly those terms.

Comment #32: entrails  on  06/29  at  10:05 PM

what do you wear as a guest to an even bringing damnation to Earth?

John Tesh concert T-shirt.

Comment #33: Sour Kraut  on  06/29  at  10:44 PM

Louisiana, Alaska, and Illinois all seem to be quite famous for the corruption of their elected officials.


With a few notable exceptions, Paul Simon, Peter Fitzgerald and Barack Obama among them.

Agreed.  In all of those states, the most blatant corruption has occurred more often with the governors than with the U.S. Senators.  Illinois is possibly going to soon have the dubious distinction of being the only state in which the last two governors - a Democrat and a Republican - both wound up in prison after leaving office.

Although both New Orleans and Chicago have had their share of corrupt politicians, as well.  The City of New Orleans is currently represented by a Republican U.S. Congressman, despite being one of the most solidly Democratic Congressional Districts in the country.  And the reason why it is currently represented by a Republican (Anh “Joseph” Cao) is because in 2008, the local Dems were too clueless to realize that it probably wouldn’t be a good idea to re-nominate the guy who got caught with $90,000 in his freezer (and subsequently convicted by the feds).  That said, Cao will almost definately be replaced in November after only one term, because he won’t have the luxury of having Dollar Bill Jefferson as his opponent again.

Comment #34: DTGslu2K  on  06/30  at  01:21 AM

Illinois politics is insane, and I can tell you why in two words:  Chicago Tribune.

It’s the same reason California politics are so bad; voters are incredibly poorly informed about state-level workings in both polities.

Comment #35: Punditus Maximus  on  06/30  at  06:58 AM

Respectful women who become wives are categorically different than women who do dirty, exciting sex acts.  Honestly, it’s sort of expected that men will forever be trapped in between the sex they can have with their wives and the sex that they want,

I think this POV is especially evident in the fact that he went to a prostitute with the same name as his wife, and who actually looks a lot like his wife.  He wants to do kinky things with his wife, but that’s not something that a respectable woman should be into, so he finds the prostitute version of her to play out his fantasies with.  That probably makes him look *better* in the patriarchal view, that he didn’t subject his madonna-wife to his whoring desires; rather, he went to an actual whore whose specific role is to provide outlet for these uncontrollable male needs.
See, there are two kinds of women, and he uses them both appropriately, so no problems there.

Comment #36: CalliopeJane  on  06/30  at  01:22 PM

The City of New Orleans is currently represented by a Republican U.S. Congressman, despite being one of the most solidly Democratic Congressional Districts in the country.  And the reason why it is currently represented by a Republican (Anh “Joseph” Cao)

However, I do note that he’s not a very good republican, from the party’s POV.  He seems rather independently-minded, and was the ONLY repub to cross party lines and vote for health care reform. His most recent act was a collaboration with Democratic rep Sheila Jackson-Lee, to make it easier for local businesses affected by the oil spill to get loans.  He doesn’t seem to be committed to his party’s “obstruct everything democrats want regardless of merit” strategy.
I believe he knows why he won, and it’s not because N.O. suddenly became way more conservative.

Comment #37: CalliopeJane  on  06/30  at  01:34 PM

“In this worldview, I’d argue that it’s less of a problem if a man goes to a prostitute than if he does something confusing and emasculating, such as expressing affection for a woman outside of the dutiful bounds of marriage.  The fundie worldview, especially, has never been one that pretends that men don’t feel lust.  On the contrary, they tend to argue that, when it comes to sex, men are basically uncaged animals who can’t control their own behavior very well, and so society has to do it for them.”

Mark Sanford’s affair got a lot more attention mainly because it was so spectacular, for sure, but I wonder if there wasn’t a bit of this involved.

Sanford’s carrying on about how in love he was the Argentine lady seemed to cross this line. I think there’s the sense that it was vaguely unseemly, not just in the cheating and the disappearing from the state house, but the fact that he was so emotional and put it in those terms. Being head-over-heels in love is construed in this view as not manly (hell, I called it ‘carrying on’), but lusting after prostitutes is manly. It was mostly the Applachian Trail thing.

Comment #38: witless chum  on  07/01  at  01:48 PM

Ahhhh.

This has always puzzled me. Brilliant explanation.

Comment #39: camipco  on  07/02  at  07:56 PM
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