I’m getting into arguments with fellow liberals over the Stupak/Nelson panty sniffing shit in the health care bill.

“It’s no big deal!”

“It doesn’t really change anything!”

“You can buy a separate abortion rider!”  (for you sluts who plan to have abortions)

“Every woman I know who had an abortion paid for it out of her own pocket so why does there need to be insurance coverage for it?

“FUCK YOU AND YOUR MYOPIC NARAL COHORT!!”  (my personal favorite, shouted to me recently)

I argued with one woman that many abortions covered by insurance are medically necessary, hence later term and more expensive.  I showed her examples where the Hyde amendment has denied women therapeutic abortions to women with federal gov’t provided health care.  I pointed out that Stupak went further than Hyde and would apply to every plan in the exchange, including those paid for entirely out of the client’s own pocket.  And it provided for exceptions only in the case of rape, incest, or threat to the mother’s life.  No health exception.  Her response?

“Doctors find ways around those things.”

So that’s it.  A woman whose health is threatened by her pregnancy, or who is carrying a severely deformed fetus (no exception for that either) had better hope her doctor is willing to bend the rules, at great personal and professional risk.  Mind you, all the aforementioned has taken place on a left wing discussion board.

Once again, we have another example of something that seems horrifying to us, but is probably pleasing to anti-choicers.  Women dying and suffering for the sin of being sexual is exactly their goal.  Unsafe illegal abortions are a feature of their plan, not a bug.

“Doctors find ways around those things.”

I often think that instead of spinning in circles coming up for excuses why a shitty situation isn’t a shitty situation, it’d be nice if people would just like… stop pretending it’s not a shitty situation.

True, catgirl, and that’s the message about the anti-choice activists that we in the pro-choice community are not effectively getting to the masses.  They are crazy authoritarian zealots who want women to suffer and die.

“Doctors find a way around these things.”

Bless her naive little cotton-wool brain and those of every other so-called lefties/progressives who thinks it’ll never happen to them/they’re too smart/good/moral/‘nice’/married to need an abortion themselves. Bless their condescenion. And by ‘bless’ I mean may they be repeatedly smacked by an immense spiked cluebat until their smug idiocy abates.

Stupak is a huge deal.  It’s also repealable.

#5 - AMEN. I volunteer for service.

Stupak has declared he is willing to stop Health Care Reform over not having enough Forced-Childbirth crap in the bill. He would deny MILLIONS access to health care to satisfy his woman-controlling, slut-shaming, poor-bashing misogynistic self. And if they pass health care with his Forced Childbirth crap, it is inevitable that many desperate women will die from infections brought about by back-alley abortions. That douchebag has to be made to own this.

Look, one of the best ways to fight the powerful is by mockery and humiliation. It worked with Senator Rick Santorum and “santorum”.  Google the word. My suggestion is we make the “stupak” mean the infection which kills women who suffer clumsy, illegal abortions.  Email or phone Stupak’s office and ask him how many women he wants to have die from stupak.

Use “stupak” in your blog posts, in letters to the editor, in articles (if you write them). That’s how new words get into the dictionary and into public usage.

The sad thing is that if HCR dies on the Stupak Forced Birther hill, the official DLC line (which will be picked up dutifully by the MSM) is that the dirty fucking hippies killed it with their commie whining.

When I used to live in Kenya, one of the songs that was in regular rotation on pop radio (you’d hear it on the bus) was a little reggae tune called “Aborting Is A Crime.”  The song was exactly as unsubtle as you would expect.

Can someone tell me how Forced Pregnancy is not a form of slavery? You’d think that in Africa they would be a little more sensitive to things like that.

I’m from Argenina, which does not allow abortions save for a few exceptions (rape, health or life of the mother)
But doctors are afraid of performing abortions, and this demand a judicial order. The first judge usually takes his/her time, and it is basically a mater of luck (which judge you get). The circuit court agian tkaes its own sweet time, and finally you get to provincial supreme court, and eventually, the National supreme court. While this happens, the pregnancy, of course, goes on.
There is a case right now in a provincial supreme court: a 15 year old raped by her step father, who has stated that if she does not get an abortion, she will kill herself. If you have enough money, you can go around this by arranging a “private” abortion (because it is a crime, but it is NEVER prosecuted)

Exceptions never work.

I think associating Stupak’s name with a bloody, post-illegal abortion infection is a good idea.