Their god is an awfully tiny little fucker, isn’t he?

This person calls himself an adult?

Let’s hope they’re all on their knees praying and drown in the mud…

Why move it inside?

I mean imagine. Obama and all those people sitting out in the pouring rain, the lights shining down bouncing off the rain….

I’ve seen stuff like that before, and it’s REALLY impressive, both visually and emotionally.

Wow.  That’s childish.

If it rains, he’ll still be the nominee, so I have no idea what they’ll have accomplished other than making themselves look like idiots.

If it doesn’t rain, does that mean God doesn’t care one way or the other?

Oh, and ...

Minnery said the video was taken down because several Focus members complained that prayer shouldn’t be used to bring harm on someone else.

“We are not about confusing people about prayer,” Minnery said.

What, you mean the part about it actually accomplishing anything?

“We’re not asking for hail the size of canned hams”—but they sure would love it.

A little petty vindictiveness in the name of God is always a good thing.  Amen.

the hypocrites

Oh my, the Focus on the Anus folks are really losing it this time.

Wow. That’s so funny. Funny because they’re called Focus on the Family, but since they’re obsessed with homosexuality, you’ve substituted “Anus” for “Family.” That’s hilarious.

Actually, if you were a bit more witty with language, you’d have called them “Focus on the Fanny.”

“rains of biblical proportions”

So are they building an ark?  Gathering up two of every animal?  Preparing to live in that ark for the next 40 days and 40 nights after the convention is over?

Because unlike other uses of the term “biblical proportions”, the phrase “rains of biblical proportions” actually has a specific meaning…

I’d just point out that it’s actually a brilliant passive-aggressive strategy, like, well, all religion. If it rains, God disapproves of Barack Obama! If it doesn’t rain, God still disapproves, he’s just a chill dude as well. They aren’t offering anything up, they’re just throwing it and hoping it will stick.

However, given that it explicitly says “beginning 2 minutes before the speech is scheduled,” it’s pretty damn falsifiable.

Wait, hold up.  So they’re going from retroactively blaming weather events and “act of god” type disasters on Sinners In The Hands Of An Angry God to praying that this sort of thing occurs at the Democratic Convention so that they can then say, “See, told ya so!  That thunderstorm was God telling you he’s voting McCain!” 

When are they going to realize that God = Their Penises (and/or Egos)?  I mean, they pretty much admit to it right there.

Their god is an awfully tiny little fucker, isn’t he?

Well, according to these petty twits, they were made in His image. So it sort of makes sense.

What a bunch of Fascevangelistic(-expialidocius—thank you Bernard-Henri Levy) Know-Nothings.

Hey, I admire the guy’s restraint. At least he didn’t call for Obama to get hit by lightning.

“Hi, I’m Mike, age-capped youth pastor and congenital douchebag. This is Stoplight!”

So, if they’re so convinced that they can control god and tell him what to do, why don’t they pray for more constructive things, like the end of global hunger?  Or world peace?  This seems like a mighty petty thing to waste their prayer on. 

If there were such a thing as a “god”, I’m sure s/he would have given up on humans a long time ago.

So, if they’re so convinced that they can control god and tell him what to do, why don’t they pray for more constructive things, like the end of global hunger?  Or world peace?

Well, to give some credit, most non-loony Christian denominations do, in fact, have a habit of praying for that stuff and more. 

Then there are all the Christians who believe that God is not Santa Claus, and prayer is not to be used for asking for stuff at all. 

And I’m sure there are still more Christians who only nominally believe in the efficacy of prayer in achieving concrete worldly aims, anyway (though I’m not sure how common or canonical that is). 

It would be interesting to read a history (or, I guess more like an anthropological or sociological study) of the origins of prayer in Christianity and what, exactly its aims have been over the years.  How much of it has origins in esoteric meditation practices, how much of it has origins in incantations and pagan ritual, etc.

When I was little I used to pray for a lot of silly things—for the store to have the candy I wanted, or for a TV show I wanted to watch to come on.

My mom yelled at me for it.  I guess not everybody learned that lesson.

“Actually, if you were a bit more witty with language, you’d have called them “Focus on the Fanny.” “

I hate to agree with the troll, but it’s right—the alliteration IS funnier.

Not to Stu - Stick to your day job reading time and weather on KCUF,“The Springs’ Golden Oldies Station”. Dobson ain’t NEVER gonna pay for all those blowjobs you’ve been supplying.

NOTE to Stu - Stick to your day job reading time and weather on KCUF,“The Springs’ Golden Oldies Station”. Dobson ain’t NEVER gonna pay up for all those blowjobs you’ve been supplying..

Especially considering the UK/commonwealth use of “fanny” is slang for the vulva, and Fanny is a woman’s name.  Especially good is the allusion to Fanny Wright, the famous feminist, abolitionist, and freethinker of the 19th century.  I think “Fanny Wrightist” (Fanny Wright-er?) was a general slur used against, well, people like us, even after Wright herself was no longer active. 

So, yeah, Focus On The Fanny is probably the most apt pun of all.

I was going to object that I wasn’t a “troll,” but given that the act of “trolling” is throwing out a line into the water hoping that someone bites, I have to confess that, yes, by strict definition, I was acting like a troll.

I’m guessing that Eric didn’t read the name but just took from the tone of your post that you were trolling, in the absolute loosest sense of the term (a usually good-faith participant taking a somewhat contrarian position on one particular issue).

However, if it does rain (we’re talking Denver in August), then it does make you wonder if the guy was onto something. Talk about a credibility boost.

I think it would be funny if it happened - Obama would simply move the event inside…

No offense, Ms Kate, and I know it’s not your main point, but since concern over “what if it rains” has been rattling around ever since they announced the stadium speech, I feel the need to reiterate the point.

It’s a football stadium, and it’s the biggest arena in town. There’s no place to “move it inside.” And it’s a football stadium—people routinely sit and watch games in them in all kinds of nasty weather. If there’s a possibility of rain, they’ll put a roof up over the stage, and the usual stadium guys will sell disposable ponchos to everyone who didn’t bring a raincoat, and as Karmakin points out, with the floodlights through the rain, it’ll look glorious.

But to your main point, yes indeed, the wingnut hatemongers are trying to command their God to do something that will completely fail to have the desired effect. This is probably why believers who are less intellectually cramped tend not to believe they know enough to tell an omniscient god what to do, but then, they’re wingnut hatemongers, so I suppose it’s self-explanatory.

However, if it does rain (we’re talking Denver in August), then it does make you wonder if the guy was onto something. Talk about a credibility boost.

Only if it’s “rains of Biblical proportions.” If it’s just an inconvenience, it’ll be like when Pat Robertson predicted that Florida would get hit by a hurricane sometime in the fall as punishment for Disney being gay-friendly.

“So, if they’re so convinced that they can control god and tell him what to do, why don’t they pray for more constructive things, like the end of global hunger?  Or world peace? “

Because the god they worship is a viscious, violent and whiny jackass who doesn’t care about peace, hunger or any other the other issues decent people care about.

“Minnery said the video was taken down because several Focus members complained that prayer shouldn’t be used to bring harm on someone else.

“We are not about confusing people about prayer,” Minnery said.

What, you mean the part about it actually accomplishing anything?”

More likely the oh-so-subtle difference between a prayer and a curse, which is kind of weird, since aren’t these the same douchebags who are always asking God to strike down the liberal Supreme Court justices during Republican presidencies?

””Minnery said the video was taken down because several Focus members complained that prayer shouldn’t be used to bring harm on someone else. “

When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there
Who put forth the propostion that you can petition the Lord with prayer
Petition the Lord with prayer.
Petition the Lord with prayer.
You cannot petition the Lord with prayer!

Aww hell, rain schmain. My wonderful state Senator, heretofore known as the Honorable Pat Wiggins, has the AFA up in arms, and legs, and whatever other body parts they can hoist high enough because she has the temerity, the unmitigated gall, the stones, the arrogance to call a statement by a minister “bullshit.”

Seriously, they have sent out an action alert and everything, here’s the alert ...

 
Donald E. Wildmon
Founder and
Chairman
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Donald E. Wildmon,
Founder and Chairman
American Family Association

So take that rainmakers, here’s some serious shit we should be paying attention to.

The claims he is pro-life?  Then how about praying to his god to bring rain to people suffering in parts of the world that are stricken with drought?  Focus on the Anus.  That’s a good one!

There at the crossroads of hubris and low IQ, you can always find one of these Christian fundie assclowns.  Not quite bright enough to even follow thier own logic to its necessary conclusion:  i.e. that this god they pray to can never manage to answer prayers for peace, but somehow it’s finally gonna come through and fulfill the juvenile revenge fantasy of a middle-aged bellyacher. 

Do they have any clue how the rest of the world sees them?