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Dr. Betty Price takes on infidelity in the black church

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Over at Essence.com there is a frank piece about adultery in the church by Dr. Betty Price, the wife of televangelist Dr. Freddy Price, Jr.  of the Ever Increasing Faith Ministry. He’s from the “prosperity gospel” approach to Christianity.

Apparently the rampant fornication by the men up in the pulpit (with the wives looking the other way), has reached the boiling point for Price, who started receiving letters from women who were engaged in affairs with pastors. It’s not news that it’s going on—what’s newsworthy is this area of “dirty laundry” in the church has not been discussed so publicly or critically by someone within the flock. A common thread—access to money, and coercion by the pastor using biblical bullsh*t—may not be surprising to some, but a whole slice of the public may not know the dynamics going on in this sphere. Her book is sure to rock more than a few boats in a faith community rife with denial and hypocrisy.

The first letter was from an older, mature woman. She’d just bought a luxury condo but lost her government job after 25 years of service. Her self-esteem was very low. She didn’t know what to do because she was financially strapped. And, she was older and didn’t think she would be able to find another job in this economy. She reached out to her bishop for counseling. They began an affair. It’s been going on for three years. The second woman was from a different church. She works on a committee in which she interacts with her pastor daily. They began spending long hours together. Then the affair began. Now, she is desperately trying to get out but doesn’t know how. 

Both of these women said they know what they are doing is wrong but expressed they don’t have the strength to leave. Both ministers have threatened and coerced these women. They told them, “If they stop the affair then they would be dishonoring God.” However, both women expressed they were benefiting financially in the relationships. They were stuck. Unsure of what to do.

Do you even have a second thought that these same women probably condemn LGBTs, even as they engage in this behavior? Price recounts her own brush with her husband’s “itch”, and this is another reason she has written the book ‘Warning to Ministers, Their Wives and Their Mistresses’.

It bothers me to know many ministers have mistresses sitting right up in the church. Their wives and children are subjected to public humiliation. Some ministers even have children with their mistresses and leave their wives. I’ve talked to a lot of women and they say that in all the churches they’ve attended the ministers have been unfaithful and run around. I personally know so many that it’s scary. These women know what they are doing. Don’t be fooled. I wrote my book because I want to expose these types of men, and women, who do this.

More below the fold.
Well, the blame starts at the top. If these married ministers can’t keep their peckers in their pants regardless of the women throwing themselves at them, they shouldn’t lead the flock and talk about commitment, fidelity and sin. They do need to be exposed, just as the wives who look the other way because they see their man as a big fat wallet. What is the point of religious principles and beliefs if you can’t even handle the Ten Commandments? How can you selectively condemn the LGBTs sitting in the pews? If you cruise around the web site, there’s a section that condemns homosexuality through exclusion by by design in the section “Avoiding the Sex Trap”:

Too many Christians are ensnared in the sex trap. Although God created sex for the enjoyment of a man and a woman in the context of marriage and for procreation, both fornication and adultery are weakening the fabric of the Body of Christ and making its witness of no effect. Many are falling into the sex trap because they are seeking love in all the wrong places rather than submitting themselves to God. I Thessalonians 4:3 says, “For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality…&qhot; Sexual immorality is not only pervasive in the world, but the Church. Sexual immorality hinders a Christian from being all they can be in God.

Of course it doesn’t state that sexual orientation itself is a sin, as far as I can tell. The church seems to do the usual head fake of “you can be alone, celibate and give when the basket comes around.”

Of course the bottom line is that those black LGBTs who are sitting there closeted (and trust me, more than half of the congregation probably knows you’re a homo), silently taking the biblical beating from the adulterer in the pulpit, the hypocrisy will continue.

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 02:03 PM • (13) Comments

What is the point of religious principles and beliefs if you can’t even handle the Ten Commandments? How can you selectively condemn the LGBTs sitting in the pews? If you cruise around the web site, there’s a section that condemns homosexuality through exclusion by by design in the section ”Avoiding the Sex Trap”:

The problem is the concept of sex.  You’ve got people who get shoe-horned into marriages by economics or by child birth or by family pressure or just by a society more ready to say, “Run out and get hitched!” than “Hang on and think this through”.  The idea is that you’re not allowed to get laid until you tie the knot.  So you’ve got all these horny people running around that think their only form of release is the honeymoon.

And then you get a religious figure in place who is allowed to break all the rules, because he was the one that got to make them all.  So the secret double-standard becomes the real sex trap.  And “everyone shut up about it” becomes the only real commandment.  Pleasure and pain get shoved under the rug because it makes everyone uncomfortable.  And women who should be out dating and socializing and falling in and out of love normally get shoved into a religious straight jacket.  And the alpha men have no one to hold them accountable, so they get to keep their affairs in the closet where they pull all the strings while castigating the evil outsiders for whatever the taboo du jour happens to be.

Comment #1: Zifnab  on  08/27  at  02:26 PM

It goes without saying that this isn’t just a problem for black churches—who was that white head of a Christian college who was caught in a long-term affair with his daughter-in-law a couple of years ago?  Sadly, as we’ve seen in the past few years, sexual abuse and clergy go hand-in-hand, and it’s not any less abusive when it’s adult women being exploited.

In some states (including, I believe, California) a minister having an affair with a church member is an actual crime—“rape under color of authority.”  There’s a recognition that there’s a unique power relationship if you’re seeking advice from someone who’s a doctor, a psychologist, or a minister and that it’s abusive for them to take advantage of that relationship.

Comment #2: Mnemosyne  on  08/27  at  03:15 PM

It goes without saying that this isn’t just a problem for black churches—who was that white head of a Christian college who was caught in a long-term affair with his daughter-in-law a couple of years ago?

Are you thinking of George Roche III, who was president of Hillsdale College (the Salon article from 2000 is here)?  Hillsdale isn’t, as far as I know, affiliated with any religious institutions, but it is an explicitly conservative private college.  In fact, Hillsdale says it will not accept federal money of any kind (which also means students cannot use federal financial aid to attend college there) because then the federal government could monitor Hillsdale’s admissions policies as a condition of the aid.

The Roche saga is a really sad one.  Roche III’s daughter-in-law committed suicide after he remarried, apparently distraught over his remarriage since they’d been having an affair for 19 years.  Roche IV was none the wiser about all of this until she revealed the affair just before committing suicide.

Comment #3: Linnaeus  on  08/27  at  03:47 PM

Man - religious conservatives really have no interior conscience.  It’s self-righteousness and the fear of getting caught that provides their morality - and if they can get away with it and rationalise it because they really really want it, they’ll do it.

Comment #4: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  08/27  at  04:29 PM

A commenter at my pad noted:

Black lesbians Anne Allen Shockley and Barbara Smith have written about this phenomenon. Smith, in her anthology Home Girls: A Black Feminist Anthology, posits:

  Heterosexual privilege is usually the only privilege that Black women have. None of us have racial or sexual privilege, almost none of us have class privilege, maintaining “straightness” is our last resort.

Shockley, in her 1974 book Loving Her, addresses the issue of homophobia among black women who can forgive pretty much any other sexual “sin.” She writes that according to homophobic WOC, being homosexual is still seen as a “white disease,” something white people invented to further tear apart black families. Black men and women having adulterous affairs, raising illegitimate children, all of that can be forgiven, because it’s still within the black community. But bringing in the “white disease” of homosexuality is unforgivable.

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The whole thing is so f*cked up.

Comment #5: Pam Spaulding  on  08/27  at  04:32 PM

It really isn’t restricted to black churches, or even churches.  All you need are groups with some type of power structure.  I’ve seen this dynamic in martial arts dojos, yoga groups, universities (think prof & grad students) and so on.  Really one of the seamier sides of humanity tongue laugh

Comment #6: anon  on  08/27  at  05:22 PM

Well, we do need to have a conversation about what sex means if it’s still connected to power (attraction) but increasingly delinked to reproduction (different economic results).

Comment #7: Punditus Maximus  on  08/27  at  05:37 PM

The thing that I think makes it *worse* in churches is the hypocrisy. It’s bad when a professor uses his position to seduce a grad student or undergraduate, because of the power dynamics, but at *least* the professor isn’t, generally speaking, denouncing people for consensual and loving sex within a monogamous pairbond if it’s not fully hetero and state-sanctioned, or for that matter running around pointing fingers at anyone else’s sex life at all.

It’s worse in churches because these pastors are using their position to denounce other people for having sex, and in particular, for having sex that harms a lot fewer people than a married man having an affair with a woman he’s more powerful than—such as gay sex, premarital sex, consensual polyamory, et cetera.

Bad either way, though.

Comment #8: Alara J Rogers  on  08/27  at  06:17 PM

She writes that according to homophobic WOC, being homosexual is still seen as a “white disease,” something white people invented to further tear apart black families.

Damn. I’d never heard that before. It’s funny because I’ve seen just as many POC who are GLBT as white people. The sad thing is that all the “isms” are from the same cloth.

Comment #9: pitbullgirl65  on  08/27  at  06:34 PM

It’s not just power, it’s money.  In general, the more patriarchal a subculture is (and the Christianist-nonprofit sector is about as patriarchal as you can get without going full polygamist) the worse the relative financial position of women. So you have powerful men who can not only do the charisma thing, they can redirect a tiny fraction of their contributors’ money and make the difference between their mistress being unpleasantly poor and pleasantly well-off. (In less-patriarchal subcultures, the women have more chances to earn that money by themselves.)

The “disrespecting God” thing really blew my mind. It’s a pretty clear indicator that there is no deity, or at least not on that concerns itself with human affairs, because otherwise there would be two smoking piles of ash on the floor.

Comment #10: paul  on  08/27  at  09:17 PM

For me, the most disgusting thing about some black churches (and some white and ethically “other” churches, presumably) is the prosperity gospel itself.

I am no advocate for Christianity, but this prosperity gospel seems to contradict both the text of every version of the Christian Bible AND 2,000 years of Christian tradition of service of the poor by the poor.

A medium-sized church in West Baltimore bought its pastor a $150,000 Bentley.  A fucking Bentley, for a congregation located in one of the poorest Zip Codes in the Mid-Atlantic, in a city with a whole lot of homeless and near-homeless people, with a lot of $30K and $40K row houses.  I guess driving a Corolla wouldn’t have gotten the job done.  This fact was disclosed when the church burned down; it had not been paying its insurance premiums and the Bentley was identified as a surviving asset.

And who fills the pews of these churches?  Women, tithing off of pretty small salaries in most cases.  I think is a long, long distance from the Black Church that survived and defeated Jim Crow, that marched at Selma, boycotted in Montgomery, stood up to murderous racist thugs; today it deserves little and perhaps no respect.

Comment #11: Bruce Godfrey  on  08/28  at  12:07 PM

Bruce:

I’m… not entirely sure what to say about your comment about women in churches. I will say, though, that the “prosperity” gospel is one of the most brazen cons i’ve ever seen in the history of religion. The very worst part of it, though, is how it’s taken such strong root in underprivileged communities.

Comment #12: BrianX  on  08/29  at  03:03 PM

“And who fills the pews of these churches?  Women, tithing off of pretty small salaries in most cases.  I think is a long, long distance from the Black Church that survived and defeated Jim Crow, that marched at Selma, boycotted in Montgomery, stood up to murderous racist thugs; today it deserves little and perhaps no respect.”

Call me cynical, but I doubt there’s any distance at all. I don’t doubt some of the ministers involved with the civil rights movement used their positions to drive the 50s equivalent of a Bentley and have lots of sex. MLK himself widely had the rep for having lots of affairs. They weren’t plaster saints, y’know? Just because someone is admirable for one thing doesn’t make them admirable in all areas. I’m sure some of these wonderful men of God do admirable things, when they aren’t abusing the vulnerable women in their congregations or shaming their families.

One thing that does bug me about this post is the focus on hypocrisy. I doubt Pam means that pastors who do live up to the supposed Biblical mandates about fidelity are free to rip to homosexuals, but isn’t that where the hypocrisy argument leads? My saying is that the problem isn’t that they don’t practice what they preach, the problem is that they preach.

Comment #13: witless chum  on  08/31  at  10:38 AM
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