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Elaine ‘forcible sodomy’ Donnelly scorched by WaPo for ludicrous DADT testimony

Dana Milbank at the WaPo delivers a stunning and accurate smackdown to the misguided, misleading and unhinged Elaine Donnelly of The Center for Military Readiness, who testified at yesterday’s House Armed Services personnel subcommittee hearing on the law known as Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.

Donnelly treated the panel to an extraordinary exhibition of rage. She warned of “transgenders in the military.” She warned that lesbians would take pictures of people in the shower. She spoke ominously of gays spreading “HIV positivity” through the ranks.

“We’re talking about real consequences for real people,” Donnelly proclaimed. Her written statement added warnings about “inappropriate passive/aggressive actions common in the homosexual community,” the prospects of “forcible sodomy” and “exotic forms of sexual expression,” and the case of “a group of black lesbians who decided to gang-assault” a fellow soldier.

At the witness table with Donnelly, retired Navy Capt. Joan Darrah, a lesbian, rolled her eyes in disbelief. Retired Marine Staff Sgt. Eric Alva, a gay man who was wounded in Iraq, looked as if he would explode.

As I said in my post yesterday, the doyenne of discrimination (who has no military background and zero qualifications of any kind to speak with authority on the subject), actually helps our cause—she had nothing to offer except fear-mongering that was ratcheted so high that Donnelly drew laughter from the gallery. I’m sure from her POV she was successfully laying out her case that The Homosexual Agenda will ruin the military.

The fact of the matter is that America—

hell, the world

—got to see the public face of the supporters of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and what they saw, in all its glory, was untethered madness.

Rep. Vic Snyder (D-Ark.) labeled her statement “just bonkers” and “dumb,” and he called her claims about an HIV menace “inappropriate.” Said Snyder: “By this analysis . . . we ought to recruit only lesbians for the military, because they have the lowest incidence of HIV in the country.”

...”Like a woman who is stared at, her breasts are stared at,” Donnelly explained. She further explained the “absolutely devastating” effect of homosexuals “introducing erotic factors” and made a comparison to Sen. Larry Craig’s adventure at the Minneapolis airport. She said admitting gays to the military would be “forced cohabitation” and a policy of “relax and enjoy it.”

[Pennsylvania Congressman Patrick] Murphy puffed his cheeks with air to calm himself.

Thanks, Elaine. You (along with The Peter) are saving us all some lobbying time. Let’s return to the videotape of Elaine’s award-worthy performance. It’s below the fold.

Related:
* Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell supporter Donnelly provides comic relief during House hearing

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 10:40 AM • (26) Comments

I’m so sick of these people.  Murphy is dead on—orientation is not misconduct.  Misconduct should be handled under the regulations.

Donnelly tried to claim a woman who was assaulted by lesbians couldn’t complain b/c she would be assumed to be a lesbian.  Well, 1. that assumes that the superior officer is an ass, and 2. removal of DADT removes any problems that might occur over suspected orientation.

It wouldn’t matter if Yost’s superiors thought she was gay or not.  All that matters is that she was assaulted.

Is it my imagination, or does Donnelly’s ‘story’ actually disprove her case?

Comment #1: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  07/24  at  11:09 AM

Whoo-eee, this woman has some vivid imaginings.  Wonder where that all comes from?

Comment #2: Melissa  on  07/24  at  11:37 AM

That pinched expression on her face – the quaver in her voice as she speaks of how imperfect people are – these are things of beauty.

Individuals are being compelled, by law, to hide an innocent condition of being (i.e., sexual orientation) to accord with a religious view of how things ought to work. This inappropriate mixture of church and state, such that purely religious objections to homosexuality play a role in government policy towards gays, is the political equivalent of “forced cohabitation.”

In other words, homosexuals are being compelled, against their wills and against the law, to make space in their professional lives for accommodating the religious hang-ups of other people.

Comment #3: The Devil's Advocate  on  07/24  at  12:04 PM

It wouldn’t matter if Yost’s superiors thought she was gay or not.  All that matters is that she was assaulted.

To you and me, Caren, that makes sense—but to folks like Elaine Donnelly, assaults on gay people don’t really count as assault.  Subhumans don’t have human rights.

Has anyone done the research on the CMR?

Comment #4: Sour Kraut  on  07/24  at  12:04 PM

Why doesn’t Elaine Donnely put her vivid imagination to far better use writing Victorianesque pornography?  She might be able to fix all the damage to her nose due to Pinnochio Syndrome, which she likely lopped off to cover it’s continual growth (google images of her - something is very odd then to now).

Comment #5: Ms Kate  on  07/24  at  12:23 PM

“As I said in my post yesterday, the doyenne of discrimination (who has no military background and zero qualifications of any kind to speak with authority on the subject), actually helps our cause”

Absolutely right, she is obviously a plant loyal to the homosexualists.

Comment #6: anoNY  on  07/24  at  12:29 PM

“Forcible sodomy” is strictly a gay man’s crime?

News of the World to me.

Comment #7: Ranylt  on  07/24  at  12:32 PM

Maybe if the armed forces gave a shit about the rape of their female members, they would give a shit about “forcible sodomy” of their male members.  Last I heard, sexual assault was sexual assault, a ciminal offence in both the civilian and military worlds, regardless of the gender of the people involved.

Oooh look! Red Herring!  Deeeelicious!

Comment #8: ShortWoman  on  07/24  at  12:48 PM

who has no military background and zero qualifications of any kind to speak with authority on the subject

Come on!  It’s the Bush era!  Advocating war but sending other people off to fight in it gives one a military background.  Just ask Hugh Hewitt.

Comment #9: Notorious P.A.T.  on  07/24  at  12:49 PM

It galls me to no end to hear these idiots worry that allowing homosexuals into the military will lead to a sexualization of the military, when our military is already enduring an epidemic of military sexual trauma (aka rape).

Comment #10: sdh  on  07/24  at  12:56 PM

I find no heading in Wikipedia for the “Center for Military Readiness”. Nothing in my first Google search either. They do appear as a reference in the article on Women in the Military.

What a disgusting human being. Absolutely ghastly. I would sooner share a hot-rack or a foxhole with some flaming queen who grabbed my ass five times a day—not that I realistically would expect such behavior to ever occur—than with this nauseating excuse for a female human being.

Comment #11: Captain Goto  on  07/24  at  01:18 PM

I find no heading in Wikipedia for the “Center for Military Readiness”. Nothing in my first Google search either.

You must be doing it wrong, I typed in “center for military readiness” on Google and got 268000 hits.

The CMR’s “board of advisors” includes such luminaries as Phyllis Schlafly (I thought she was dead), Kate O’Beirne, David Horowitz, Frank Gaffney, and a variety of old-line old-school former generals and admirals.  According to nndb.com, you can add Linda Chavez and Beverly LaHaye to that list.

“Just bonkers” pretty much sums it up.

Comment #12: liberalrob  on  07/24  at  03:06 PM

Hey Elaine there have ALWAYS been gays in the military. Lets figure out if the military can teach the difference between killing and murder Because Fort Bragg seems like a danger zone if your female. or pregnant and are affiliated with some male who thinks your expendable.

Comment #13: angeranddespair  on  07/24  at  03:43 PM

I wonder what these people would do if they ever figured out that one of the finest and fiercest fighting forces known to history, the Spartans, was nothing BUT gays.  But then, I remember that these people make it a point of honor to be ignorant and so they probably have no idea what Sparta is.

Comment #14: geg6  on  07/24  at  04:22 PM

From Milbank’s chat about his piece today on the WaPo:

Austin, Texas: Reading some of the things that Ms. Donnelly was saying made me wonder—has there ever been anything said during a hearing you were covering that was so ridiculous that it just made you laugh out loud?

Dana Milbank: This actually happened at yesterday’s hearing, but it wasn’t Donnelly. It was reading the written testimony of the sergeant major who definitely did not want gay people in the military because it would harm the esprit de corps. But his written testimony said “esprit decor,” as if it were some Laura Ashley design. I laughed out loud at a completely inappropriate moment.

Astounded in Washington: Please, please tell me that the unbelievably funny piece about Elaine Donnelly was all made up. Please tell me that Elaine Donnelly is all made up. If you can’t, please tell me anything you can which would provide comfort. I mean, wow!

Dana Milbank: As noted, I suspected a trick by Democrats to put an actor on the panel as a sort of parody. But the Republicans said they did indeed sign off on her. Maybe they were part of the scheme, too. That would be the sort of juicy tidbit you’d find on the Drudge Report, my first source for everything that rules my world.

Washington: Wow. Your “don’t ask, don’t tell” piece today was um ... amazing. I won’t say I’m shocked people still think this way, but here’s what I can’t get over: If Ms. Donnelly’s premise is true, how do gay people in any industry manage to hold down any job when it seems they’re conspiring to have or actively are having gay sex 24 hours a day, 365 days a year?

Dana Milbank: As author of Homo Politicus, I believe I am something of an authority on this. As we learned from the sergeant major’s testimony, gay people are sometimes distracted from their sex acts by a need to improve the esprit decor.

Seattle: How close were the congressmen to openly mocking Donnelly? From the sound of it, I would have expected someone to say “according to psychologists, you know what homophobia really means, right?”

Dana Milbank: There was a bit of grinning and smirking on the dais, but open mockery was difficult. In fairness to Donnelly, her disapproval goes well beyond sexual orientation. She has tried to keep all women, straight and gay, out of combat.

Comment #15: Pam Spaulding  on  07/24  at  04:26 PM

If you change your own oil, that doesn’t make you a mechanic, but suck one dick….

Queer is as queer does. Keep the military clean

Comment #16: Nigger Jim  on  07/24  at  04:51 PM

“one of the finest and fiercest fighting forces known to history, the Spartans, was nothing BUT gays.”

Actually most of the finest and fiercest fighting forces had either organized homosexuality or it was tolerated in their society.

The Japanese Samurai, the Amazons, the Sacred Band of Thebes, heck the Roman armies in general often have slave lovers of the same sex. Both the Greeks and Romans considered sex with a guy to be a form of release and if not mandated was strongly encouraged.

In Biblical Times armies in that part of the world would rape the male soldiers of the defeated army. Of course that was likely an act of dominance to humilate the defeated enemy. Still soldier and sodomy go hand in hand with one another throughout military history.

Comment #17: tootiredoftheright  on  07/24  at  05:31 PM

Not disagreeing with your comment, but

the Amazons

Huh. And here I thought Amazons were mythical.

Comment #18: kaje  on  07/24  at  06:06 PM

“Not disagreeing with your comment, but

the Amazons

Huh. And here I thought Amazons were mythical. “


Nope. There are a few grains of truth in the old stories. Maybe not all lesbians but like an all male army or mixed one there would be quite a bit of homosexuality. Also all male or female army does tend to encourage it due to an abundance of one gender for quite a time period.


http://www.archaeology.org/9701/abstracts/sarmatians.html
http://www.stoa.org/diotima/essays/wilde.shtml

Women warrior cultures as well as female rulers were often written out by later historians as well as physical evidence destroyed.

Comment #19: tootiredoftheright  on  07/24  at  06:52 PM

Back in the ancient days when I served, the Investigative Services outed gays by going to the top 1%performers and asking if they were homosexual.  It was effective because the ‘breeders’ were the ones with the picture books to figure out their jobs.  Donnelly worries that the Stoopids will be forced to accept lessened expectations because outing will no longer give you a free and easy promotion.

Comment #20: Mold  on  07/24  at  07:03 PM

Wow. Learn something new every day then.

Comment #21: kaje  on  07/24  at  07:13 PM

Isn’t Donnelly one of the crowd who believes if (other) women have equal rights, that interferes with the chance that a hot, manly male will sweep her off her feet, open doors for her and pay her bills for the rest of her life?

Comment #22: mythago  on  07/24  at  09:31 PM

I can’t help but imagine one of the Representatives asking, in serious tones, “Have you ever heard the phrase, ‘The stupid, it burns! The goggles, they do nothing?’ Ms Donnelly, you have rendered our goggles useless.”

As for the Amazons, they appear to have moved northeasterly and returned to the battlefield later as the Mongols. I saw a documentary where they were making the connections.

Comment #23: Samantha Vimes  on  07/24  at  10:01 PM

“As for the Amazons, they appear to have moved northeasterly and returned to the battlefield later as the Mongols. I saw a documentary where they were making the connections. “

But the Mongols were pretty much a male dominated society with women being chattel if I recall rightly.

Comment #24: tootiredoftheright  on  07/24  at  11:08 PM

If I was on that cpmmittee, I would have ripped Donelly (and other Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell supporters) into shreds over those remarks.  My criticisms are usually very harsh.

Comment #25: Jovan1984  on  07/25  at  12:09 PM

Those articles about the Sarmatians don’t prove Amazons existed any more than the existence of Romans proves that every account of Troy was valid.  Mythic underpinnings are common in many cultures and aren’t shown to be valid just because someone says so, or said so thousands of years ago.  Plus, women being buried with arrowheads and bows could mean that they hunted as much as that they went to war.  Some of the Sarmatian women were buried with and thus may have fought with spears and javelins, though again those can be used to hunt, too.  Sounds like women I wouldn’t want to mess with, but not necessarily a tribe of warrior women.

The homosexuality of the Spartan and wider Greek culture was socially regimented.  Gifts from horny older men to younger men and boys were appropriate, but if a boy accepts money then he’s a whore and isn’t considered trustworthy.  Men who are married are expected to make babies during the years between being boys/youths and older men who offer youths roosters so they can also offer their cocks.  Older men couldn’t take a penis from the younger men without losing face (or ass, I guess,) and it was considered wrong for a younger man to act in that way.  Catamites were catamites and men were men, and if the catamites wanted to be men they’d just have to grin and bear it.  It was the sometimes-gay patriarchy, not a mutual-adoration club where everything goes and pleasure was the thing.  Of course, gays existed at the time and probably went about their business as they always have, do, and will.  But their sexuality wasn’t accepted even if their sex was (when performed by the right people in the right way.)

Comment #26: jon  on  07/26  at  07:43 AM
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