Gee, I wonder if it will be at all difficult to find a quote that concisely demonstrates how deeply Dick Morris has descended into Damned If You [Do|Don’t] jackassery?

Dick Morris, circa 3 months ago:

It would be an act of terminal insanity for Barack Obama to name Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential candidate. It would not help him get elected, it would drag all the Clinton controversies into the general election, and having her down the hall in the West Wing would be a recipe for disaster, dissension and civil war. Other than that, it’s a hell of an idea!

If you want to evoke Dick Morris with a graphic, a toe-sucker might be a slightly better choice than a thumb-sucker.

Do you really think some one who is as much of a dick as Morris would have a job if he wasn’t a reich wing whore with a penis?

No.

Dick Morris (along with Bill Kristol) is wrong about everything. They together compose the Great and Sure Barometer of Failure.

I don’t like any of the candidates on either side. However, my guess is that Obama takes it and that the Democrats pick up some seats in the Senate and House. I assume that will be acceptable to many of the posters here. My question is “Then what?”.
An ambitious 100-day program of sweeping legislation isn’t going to happen. No money in the treasury. Patience will be required. Will the new women and men in government do the heavy lifting and attempt to improve our nation, or give in to pent up spasms of revenge and payback to all the evil people and processes they perceive to be the problem. What’s it going to be?

Isopluvial, President Obama and the Congress can restore the Constitution with it’s proper checks and balances and civil liberties, and throttle the build up of near-monarchial power under Bush. That doesn’t cost one cent!

give in to pent up spasms of revenge and payback to all the evil people and processes they perceive to be the problem.

Would Obama, if elected, “give in to revenge”?

Isopluvial, where the heck have you been for the past eight years? We just went through a two-term administration which was very focussed on revenge. You already know what it would be like, if you were paying attention.

Revenge and payback against malefactors are part of the heavy lifting required to improve our nation.

Morris is probably pissed off as well that if Obama is elected he can’t do his shtick anymore—writing about the Clintons because he advised them at one time.

Before Morris got caught sucking a prostitute’s toes, that is.

“Revenge and payback against malefactors are part of the heavy lifting required to improve our nation”

And just exactly who are these people, and who makes that determination?
Is it closer to 10’s of people (Bush, Cheney, CEO of Haliburton…) or 100,000’s?
Tyro, this is the type of response I fully expected. The question is, is that what people want Obama’s administration to do?

I hear he blows goats, too.

The question is, is that what people want Obama’s administration to do?

Yes

He won’t, but yes.

History will be the best revenge on Bush and Cheney.

Last night I had dreams of voter machine hackery and other voting irregularities resulting in a McCain presidency.  I’m not sure that this is in the bag at all.

At a certain point, I just don’t think the Republicans have the manpower to pull off that kind of coup.  You’ve got to have people in the right positions who are willing to put their necks on the line for their candidates.  You’ve got to have a guy go into the Diebold voting machine and change out the card or flip the switch.  I just don’t think there are that many of those guys left in positions of power.

Ralph Reed lost his Lieutenant Governorship bid.  Katherine Harris never made it to the Senate.  Donald Rumsfeld isn’t running the Pentagon anymore.  The RSCC isn’t raising any money.  The lobbyists are fleeing the GOP like rats diving off a sinking ship.  And the old-guard Republicans who are left - I am betting - are more than happy to take a step back and let history write its own course, because they aren’t really interested in another 4 years of losing House and Senate seats because McCain wants to make a giant ass of himself.

Will people cheat?  Sure.  No doubt.  Will it be enough to swing a national election?  I’m not seeing that happening.

And just exactly who are these people, and who makes that determination?

Generally, the determination is made by a combination of congressional investigators, justice department officials appointed by the president, and those in charge of the party. It likely involves a combination of legal prosecution of those who violated the Hatch Act when it came to corrupting the hiring process and those who corrupted the process of federal spending and grants by favoring Republicans.

Another aspect is political revenge, probably by actively rejecting to meet with or deal with lobbyists or others who were particular malefactors within the Bush administration.

Finally, it involved public campaigns to shame universities, think tanks, or other organizations who retain these malefactors and support campaigns to cut off their oxygen. And any of them who run for public office should be targetted and savagely opposed.

The most important thing is to avoid a repeat of the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan administrations, where bad actors in Watergate and Iran-Contra were given a “free pass” in the name of “national unity,” only to see them return to the Bush administration in 2000. And there’s nothing wrong with this sort of thing. It’s a necessary initiative. The voters can push back and punish the Democrats if they feel that opposing criminals and their enablers is out of line.

As atheist says, this is what people want Obama’s administration to do, though he probably won’t.

Ah, but best of all Zifnab, there’s Ken Blackwell, the guy who allegedly threw the Ohio election to Bush and failed to win his own election to the governor’s seat just two years later.  Also, I’m fairly certain the state followed Cuyahoga County in chucking all their e-voting machines.

Haha, thanks Doug.  I knew I was missing at least one biggie.

If there really was a god, and s/he cared about humans, there would be some serious smiting going on…

I’m starting to get the impression that God is getting pretty pissed off at us for the way we’re ruining the rest of Creation and is figuring out ways to have us get rid of ourselves.  Who’s to say that God considers us more important than the wildlife or glaciers that we’re destroying?  Maybe S/He’s decided the Earth will be better off without us pesky humans wrecking things.

Hey, I said I thought there might be a Divine—I never said I thought the Divine considered humans to be the pinnacle of evolution.

The BEST Bush/Cheney can hope for is to be forgotten by history, that in 100 years people will know them about as well as we know about Chester A. Aurthur.

The worst for them (more likely) is that their administration will be ranked somewhere between James Buchanan and Herbert Hoover.

I will say that this column strikes me as more of Morris’s hard-on for hating the Clintons.  In this case, he’s arguing Clinton will fail at getting voters to Obama, because he thinks she will fail at everything.  I suspect he believes she can’t put her pants on one leg at a time.

Yes, since Bill fired Dick when the toe-sucking incident became public knowlege, he’s been gunning for him and Hillary.  He’s a pervert and a disaster as a human being.  He may have once had chops as a pollster, but his manic obsession for revenge has destroyed his soul.

atheist:

I hear he blows goats, too.

No, I’m pretty sure that was Steve Spurrier.

Dan - you’re my hero!

Dick Morris works best if you try not to remember all the things he said before that are contradicting what he says now. Also if you’re drunk and possibly suffering from a massive head injury. Or you’re in on the joke with him: that’s he’s performing the most elaborate, in character, one man performance art piece in American history. He calls it THE AMERICAN TV POLLSTER PUNDIT. Buy the DVD.

http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/

The MSM played a large part in covering for the vote fraud so I am not confident about anything. I also worry about Sen. Obama’s safety. the Reich Wing seems quite successful in stirring up the nuts and we’ve already had deadly attacks committed, yet the recent white supremacist chance apprehension was somehow “not a credible threat.” No one knows the aces the Goopers hold up their sleeves, up to and including a false-flag attack on US soil. DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff has already planted the memes about dirty bomb attacks.

history will take a huge, steaming dump on the Cheney/Bush “legacy”.

I prefer to imagine it as diarrhea.

A few facts for you.

Unemployment Rates 1993-2008

1993   1994   1995   1996   1997   1998   1999   2000
6.9     6.1     5.6     5.4     4.9     4.5     4.2     4.0

2001   2002   2003   2004   2005   2006   2007   2008
4.8     5.8     6.0     5.5     5.1     4.8     4.7     —-

Clinton 8 year average for unemployment: 5.2 (7 year average is 5.37)

High: 6.9 in 1993

Low: 4.0 in 2000

Bush 7 year average for unemployment: 5.24

High: 6.0 in 2003

Low: 4.7 in 2007

Note: 2008 avg. as of July, 5.2. If the 2008 avg. is figured in, the Bush avg. unemployment rate is 5.24 (5.237)

The average unemployment rates over the last 17 ½ have remained virtually unchanged despite which party controls the White House, (both experiencing highs and lows).

This information was found at the Bureau of Labor Statistics web sight. These rates are base rates, the revised rates for this information are slightly higher from 1993-2008.

Doesn’t have anything to do with this thread but what the heck.

Jason, you do realize that the unemployment rate is based on random polling and only counts people who have been actively looking for work in the past four weeks, right?

If you’ve been looking for work for five weeks instead of four, guess what?  As far as the government is concerned, you don’t count as “unemployed” anymore.  That’s one of the reasons they’re so resistant to extending unemployment benefits.

Interesting how you can get all kinds of results if you massage the numbers just right.

No numbers massaging, unless BLS did it.  The information is broken down (at BLS) into gender, race, type of jobs and so on, it’s pretty detailed.  According to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), we (USA) have a lower unemployment rate than other industrialized nations such as France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Russia, Sweden, UK, and Canada. Other nations that use the Euro are much higher as well. The only countries that even comes close are Sweden and the UK.

Note: The numbers listed are yearly averages, some months were higher and some lower.

Mnemosyne,

The article you posted is a little out of date don’t you think (July 2004)?  The information I posted is current as of July 2008.  According to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development Europe has a higher unemployment rate than the US.

MikeEss,

I didn’t make the numbers up, they are what they are.  Now I guess you could say that the BLS is some right wing organization who lies to make Bush look good.  Cheer up, the August numbers aren’t out yet and you still have 4 more months for unemployment to rise.

According to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development Europe has a higher unemployment rate than the US.

Europe also calculates their unemployment rate differently, so you’re comparing apples to oranges.