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Everyone Knows

Hee, Matt made a funny.  Addressing yet another article that peddles in the idea that Keith Olbermann’s success is a miracle, because liberals traditionally fail on TV, he says:

How many failed attempts were there, exactly? My recollection of the relevant history is that first O’Reilly was successful. Then, because you’re not allowed to put liberals on television, networks responded to his success by putting more conservatives on. Then someone at MSNBC had the crazy idea of giving Phil Donohue a show. Then Donohue’s show became MSNBC’s most popular program. At which point MSNBC canceled it because you’re not allowed to put liberals on television. Some time after that, MSNBC put Keith Olbermann on intending, as Boyer reports, for his show to be a “newscast of record.” Then, by accident, Olbermann started doing some liberal stuff. And it was successful, which based on the track record (one effort to put a liberal on cable and his show became the network’s highest-rated program) is exactly what you would expect.

The myth that liberals don’t do well on TV is a classic example of an Everyone Knows myth in action.  Common but erroneous wisdom is more powerful than any conspiracy, because a conspiracy can be exposed, but information contrary to what Everyone Knows, no matter how devastatingly true, just gets buried under a pile of cognitive dissonance.  Why something might become that untrue thing that Everyone Knows often is indeed political, but more out of convenience.  It’s convenient and appealing for network executives to believe that the general public doesn’t want to listen to those liberals who’d raise marginal tax rates if they had their way, so they persist in believing it, despite evidence to the contrary.  The other thing that feeds the myth is that the unwashed right wingers here in the flyover states stick out a little bit more to the coastal elite making these decisions, and so it’s easy to decide that they’re representative of Middle America, as opposed to the more mundane apolitical people who will listen to a liberal or the mundane liberals in our mundane but fuel-efficient vehicles.  And of course, the idea that people living in blue states are Middle America, too, is also discarded, with a lot of assistance from the right wing noise machine.


It doesn’t have to be malicious.  Evidence that liberals do well on TV doesn’t fit the preconceived notions about what the TV viewing audience is like, but evidence that conservatives do well fits the existing paradigm, and is remembered.  Cognitive dissonance is probably the #1 reason incorrect beliefs are so hard to root out, even from people who would benefit from knowing the truth, like network executives looking for ratings.  I can think of a number of things Everyone Knows that aren’t true.

*Everyone Knows there’s a link between autism and vaccines, even though it’s come out that there’s no evidence for it, and the supposed culprit (mercury) isn’t even in vaccines anymore.
*Everyone Knows that the anti-choice movement is motivated by love of fetuses more than sex-phobia, even though there’s ample evidence that given the choice between reducing the abortion rate or reducing sexual freedom, they’ll choose the latter every time.  (Increased access to contraception, for instance, would significantly reduce the abortion rate but make it easier to have sex without worry.  Naturally, the anti-choice movement opposes contraception.)
*Everyone Knows that socializing large parts of the economy is the enemy of freedom, even though we’ve already done it without becoming a dictatorship, as have various other nations with the same results.
*Everyone Knows that some women are just sluts, even though pinning people on the exact number of sex partners that you have to have in order to cross the line is an impossible task.
*Everyone Knows that men and women have completely different brains, even though what few differences have been detailed after mountains of study are pretty slight and wouldn’t even be considered relevant if there wasn’t an anti-feminist agenda to exploit that fact.
*Everyone Knows that “under god” is a mandatory, irreplaceable part of the Pledge of Allegiance even though it was actually added decades after the Pledge was initially written.
*Everyone Knows that the Founding Fathers were Christians, though many of them were actually hostile to organized religion.

I could continue, but let’s make this an interactive game.  What does Everyone Know that isn’t so?  Help me out, Pandagonians.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 08:24 PM • (25) Comments

Everyone knows that Democrats are just as partisan and Republicans even though Republicans love Democrats “comprise” (e.g., DOMA, Iraq, and the Bankruptcy Bill) all the time and Republicans obstruct all time (e.g., SCHIP and stem cell research).

Everyone knows that Americans love to elect war heroes over non-war heroes except H. W. Bush, Bob Dole, and John Kerry.

Everyone knows that the Iraq War and President Bush are still favored by at least 50% of the population despite what any polls say.

Everyone knows that all “serious” people supported the Iraq war at the outset and only DFH’s were opposed to it.

Comment #1: Jim RL  on  06/16  at  08:40 PM

Wow, I butchered that first one. It should read

Everyone knows that Democrats are just as partisan asRepublicans even though Democrats “comprise” (e.g., DOMA, Iraq, and the Bankruptcy Bill) all the time and Republicans obstruct all time (e.g., SCHIP and stem cell research).

Comment #2: Jim RL  on  06/16  at  08:43 PM

Why was Phil Donahue cancelled?

Comment #3: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  06/16  at  08:48 PM

Everyone knows you go to Carl’s for quality furniture for low, low prices.

Comment #4: Jonathan Hohensee  on  06/16  at  08:52 PM

What’s even scarier is the idea that to the establishment Keith Olbermann now defines the left edge of acceptable discourse. He’s a good guy and all, but not being insane or a toady should being the gamut, not end it.

Comment #5: paul  on  06/16  at  09:00 PM

What Paul said: Olbermann keeps being held up as some sort of radical verge-of-outright-communism leftist, when probably the most radically leftist thing he’s ever done is publicly point out a few times that Bush wasn’t being completely truthful back when Bush was still popular.  I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve been in argument about how ‘both sides are just as bad’ and have had Olbermann being held up as the left-wing version of O’Reilly or Coulter.  Its like: Coulter called for the assassination of Supreme Court justices she disagrees with.  Olberman did some fact-checking.  That’s just not QUITE in the same category of partisanship…

Comment #6: Drocket  on  06/16  at  09:06 PM

Caren…here you go.

http://www.allyourtv.com/0203season/news/02252003donahue.html

The stuff in that article has been confirmed by a number of different sources.

Comment #7: jules  on  06/16  at  09:38 PM

Per Drocket—Everybody Knows that Al Franken, Keith Olbermann, and Michael Moore are just the liberal answer to Bill O’Reilly, Anne Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh.

Comment #8: The Opoponax  on  06/16  at  09:52 PM

Everyone knows that natural medicines are better for you than pharmaceuticals.
Everyone knows that most prisoners in the U.S. are guilty, even though estimates suggest that a third are actually innocent.

Comment #9: Jeffrey  on  06/16  at  10:03 PM

Everybody knows you only use 10% of your brain.
Everybody knows one side of the moon is always dark.
Everybody knows “In God We Trust” was the nation’s original motto.

Comment #10: bad Jim  on  06/16  at  10:18 PM

Everyone knows that Islam is a religion of hate that requires its adherents to seek out and destroy freedom where ever it exists - especially the United State of America…

Christianity, OTOH, is a religion of peace, love and brotherhood, completely dedicated to bringing the best out of every human in the service of God…

Comment #11: MikeEss  on  06/16  at  10:24 PM

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
Thats how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Comment #12: DJA  on  06/16  at  10:30 PM

*Everyone Knows that some women are just sluts, even though pinning people on the exact number of sex partners that you have to have in order to cross the line is an impossible task.

It’s not the number per se, it’s the fact that the woman in question isn’t sleeping with the man making the judgment.

Comment #13: Dr Paisley  on  06/16  at  11:40 PM

Everyone on the African continent knows that Mugabe is just misunderstood and the MDC are all sockpuppets of the UK…

Comment #14: Liberaldirk  on  06/17  at  12:46 AM

This reminds me of a post at Brad Hicks’ blog.

“...they could only find large company that did run controlled experiments, using a variety of pay systems and management systems, to see which ones actually produced the most productivity improvements. When they looked at their own experimental results after a year, they concluded that in their company, at least, there were gains, but they were offset by serious negative consequences, such as impaired teamwork and more infighting, so they discontinued it. Which, sadly, only lasted until the next senior management change, because the company in question was HP. Not very long thereafter, then-new CEO (and now, perhaps not coincidentally, McCain economic adviser) Carly Fiorina came in with a firm ideology that strongly incentive-based pay systems “just obviously” work better than more egalitarian ones, a belief she held so strongly and that she was so sure of that she was flatly unwilling to look at any evidence to the contrary, even from within her own company.”

Comment #15: hf  on  06/17  at  01:33 AM

Everyone knows that the plural of “octopus” is “octopi” or “octopuses” or “octopus,” when in fact, it’s either “octopodes” (Greek) or “octopedes” (Latin).

Comment #16: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  06/17  at  01:42 AM

Actually, foreign loan-words tend to get their plural forms regularized, especially over time. Hence singular “agenda” (not “agendum”) and plural “stadiums,” “aquariums,” “honorariums,” “violins,” “viruses,” and, yes, “octopuses”—which the OED calls “the usual Anglicized plural” of “octopus.”

Which reminds me, it’s too bad Steven Pinker is such a douche on so many issues outside his field (childhood language acquisition), because his books dealing strictly with language are awesome.

Comment #17: DJA  on  06/17  at  03:35 AM

Everyone knows Brother Love’s show (hallelujah).

Although I don’t actually disagree with the sentiment, I don’t really like your line of argument here:

*Everyone Knows that socializing large parts of the economy is the enemy of freedom, even though we’ve already done it without becoming a dictatorship, as have various other nations with the same results.

It sounds too close to this, for instance:

*Everyone Knows that allowing the government to indefinitely detain citizens is the enemy of freedom, even though we’ve already done it without becoming a dictatorship, as have various other nations with the same results.

The slippery slope is not disproved by the fact that we aren’t yet at the bottom of it.

Comment #18: Cris  on  06/17  at  08:43 AM

Liberals don’t do well on the TV?

Everyone knows M.A.S.H. only lasted a couple of seasons.

Comment #19: jon  on  06/17  at  08:45 AM

Everyone knows pop culture is bad for you, except that Steven Johnson has plausibly argued that pop culture is one reason IQs keep drifting upwards. 

Everyone knows that the ancients had special wisdom, even though they were largely more malnourished, stupider, and more superstitious than us.

Comment #20: Amanda Marcotte  on  06/17  at  09:07 AM

Everybody knows that Gutenberg invented movable type.

Comment #21: Dark Avenger and Guardian of 10 Gold Chow Mein  on  06/17  at  10:08 AM

Really showing the age here, but certainly Cavett was a liberal.

Comment #22: phylosopher  on  06/17  at  11:33 AM

Fun! I just posted this list of American War Myths elsewhere.

Everyone knows that:

1. The Civil War wasn’t about slavery; it was about the entirely abstract principle of “states’ rights”.

2. The US entered World War II to liberate the Jews and put an end to the Holocaust, even if almost nobody in the US had any idea it was going on and even if the US had been actively turning away Jewish asylum seekers for years.

3. Vietnam was fought to contain the Communist threat from consuming all of Asia; if we’d stuck it out, the Cold War would have ended decades sooner. (Extra credit: the US won the Vietnam War.)

4. Iraq was invaded to depose the brutal dictator Saddam Hussein and liberate the Iraqi people. (Extra credit: another reason for the invasion was to fight terrorists over there instead of over here.)

5. The Mexican-American War, the Philippine-American War, and World War I never happened.

Comment #23: Picador  on  06/17  at  11:36 AM

Everyone knows quoting Leonard Cohen wins you double points.

Everyone knows that lowering taxes on the top 1% stimulates the economy, even though it just goes back to the secondary economy on Wall St. and not towards inovation, infrastructure or product/process improvements.  Or, you know, jobs.

Comment #24: cynickal  on  06/17  at  06:49 PM

Re: the “Everyone knows that WWII was about the Holocoust”:

I WISH everyone new about the SS ST. Louis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_St._Louis

Comment #25: Antigone  on  06/17  at  07:27 PM
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