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Everything is culture war

This remarkable cartoon that Matt got off of Hendrik Hertzberg says it all, doesn’t it?  Some of the terminology has changed since this cartoon was published in 1862, when there was a backlash against the Republican party of that era for its perceived liberalism.  For instance, the term “Negro worship” has been replaced with “political correctness”, though I do imagine the two terms are used to promote roughly the same argument.  (Which is that white liberals aren’t sincere in their anti-racism, but are just acting out of some sort of guilt that they impose on each other.)  “Spirit rapping” is a reference to an admittedly silly trend of the era that is analogous to the various alt medicine and New Age-y crap that often takes off with liberal sorts who reject organized religion, but haven’t graduated to rejecting irrationality.  “Free love” has turned into an all-purpose complaint about feminism and sexual liberation.  I think by “Puritanism” they might have been referring to a particular strain of 19th century progressivism.  The modern equivalent would probably be conservatives complaining about the “nanny state”.  Complaints about “rationalism” have morphed into complaints about “liberal elitism”, and particularly denouncing Obama as “arrogant” for having the temerity to suggest facts matter. And complaints about “socialists” and atheists haven’t changed one bit, it seems.

This is the sort of thing that makes claims that Tea Partiers are either some new phenomenon or that they have a specific, policy-based gripe with Obama even more comical.  It’s all culture war, all the time.  Like Matt says:

I think the evident similarities between aspects of political rhetoric today and 150 years ago highlights the extent to which the values-and-temperament debate between conservative nationalism and progressive cosmopolitanism is ultimately much more fundamental than the passing controversies over tax rates economic regulation. The basic anxieties provoked by threats to existing status hierarchies haven’t changed, nor have the rhetorical tools of countermobilization.

After reading that, I read a perfectly hilarious example at Sadly, No. Daniel Foster at NRO suggested that he should start smoking again just to show those nanny state liberals who had the nerve to put warnings on cigarettes indicating that smoking is deadly.  (He should see the labels on cigarettes in England.  These new ones still don’t measure up in terms of graphic nastiness.)  I’ve noted before on this blog that the “piss the liberals off” meme has gotten to the point where conservatives are expressing a willingness to hurt their own bodies to “show” us.  I would point out to them that even suicide bombers know you have to pick one more victim than yourself in order to make an impact.  As soft-hearted as I am, I’m not going to stay up at night thinking, “Some simple minded fool is out there killing himself just to show me he has every right to do it.” 

Anyway, Sadly, No makes fun of Foster for this.  In doing so, they include this picture of him:


This caused him to claim that they were making fun of him for being a dork.  This was insulting, because their joke was way funnier than that.  Plus, there’s something more than a little strange with that as your go-to complaint.  The picture is just of him smiling, with no editorial commentary whatsoever from S,N.  Presumably, therefore, Foster’s feeling that the shirt is dorky is his own, which makes you wonder why on earth he’s fucking wearing it if he thinks he looks like a dork in it.  Is it for the same reason that he’s thinking of picking up smoking?  Has he just determined that his whole life should be lived in a way that attracts the mockery and disapproval of presumed liberals?  Is being a dork a desirable thing because some liberals are not dorks?  Perhaps Foster thinks none of us are dorks, and that we all spend our time sitting around being super-cool and getting laid a lot, so he has to really amp up the dorkery to reject that.  But I swear there are dorky liberals, so being a dork as an anti-liberal statement is likely to fail on those grounds.

Just to make the whole situation even funnier, Foster’s parting shot in all this was to whip out the “haters gotta hate” card.  Which means his definition of “hater” is the exact opposite of the actual definition.  A hater is someone who envies someone for being cool or successful or just plain awesome, and spends all their time trying to take them down.  But Foster is deliberately using it—-by his own measure—-to mean, “Someone who picks on dorks for being dorky.”  I’m just going to write this one off as pure dumbassery that infects conservatives when they spend all their time denying verifiable facts about the world.

Long story to make this point that this is culture war.  The right repaints and repaints itself in an attempt to disguise this fact, but it’s always there.  The exact levels of dorkiness in Foster’s sartorial choices has absolutely nothing to do with policy ideas.  But it has everything to do with the right wing narrative that they’re the only Real Americans and they’re oppressed by a bunch of liberal elites who think they’re so cool with their black T-shirts and their fancy coffee drinks consumed without lung-blackening cigarettes.

But I will say that I fully support Foster’s project of linking cigarette smoking with dorkiness.  That’s probably a better idea than putting pictures of dead people on cigarette packages.  Maybe a picture of him in that green shirt with language saying, “Smoking isn’t cool. This guy does it.”  That way, it’s a win-win situation.  We get to discourage kids from smoking, and Foster gets to feel like he’s oppressed.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 07:24 PM • (66) Comments

This caused him to claim that they were making fun of him for being a dork.  This was insulting, because their joke was way funnier than that.

Hey!  Both/and rather than either/or, dimwit!

Comment #1: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  11/15  at  08:20 PM

I don’t get the anti-warning label crowd anyway. Isn’t the whole chant of the free-marketeers that informed consent should rule?

And if they’re smoking for the sake of looking tough, then they should support much stronger warning labels. It seems like the toughness thing would be enhanced if the label read “Surgeon General’s Warning: The contents of this package will rot your internal organs, make your teeth fall out, and make you smell like a burning pile of cow-shit to boot.”

Comment #2: JThompson  on  11/15  at  08:37 PM

The free-marketeers don’t believe in informed consent.  They believe that, for some reason, deception is a national good and the impulse to dominate others is the highest calling. 

They bitterly defend every privilege they have, and thus resent even the silent warning about health to take away their advantage of this knowledge from the great unwashed - note that before the spite, this guy is a nonsmoker.

Comment #3: Loch Ness Monster  on  11/15  at  08:47 PM

“I smoke things that might give me testicular cancer because it makes me look more manly.”

Comment #4: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  11/15  at  08:47 PM

“Spirit rapping” is a reference to an admittedly silly trend of the era that is analogous to the various alt medicine and New Age-y crap that often takes off with liberal sorts who reject organized religion, but haven’t graduated to rejecting irrationality.

Exactly. It’s the straw-man portion of their “argument”—anyone who reject traditional patriarchal religious values (like slavery or chattel) is de facto a crank or (per the other block) a horrid atheist. And for the churchgoing abolitionists, well, they’re weirdos due to where they live:

I think by “Puritanism” they might have been referring to a particular strain of 19th century progressivism.  The modern equivalent would probably be conservatives complaining about the “nanny state”.

“Puritanism” in this cartoon can be translated, then and now, as “eeevil Northeastern influence” (AKA “Massachusetts/NYC libruls”). It’s more of a geographic pejorative, although it contains elements of the nanny-state accusation (the northeast’s civil society having been less feudal than that of the south).

Comment #5: Gracchus.  on  11/15  at  08:52 PM

And complaints about “socialists” and atheists haven’t changed one bit, it seems.

I’m not sure if any of the rest have changed as well.  I’m sure if I looked hard enough, I could see the phrases “negro worship”, “free love”, and “rationalism” used derogatorily in some recent Limbaugh rant.  I wish I could hear all these code words, but I rarely get even that much.  It’s just straight out racism, hippie punching, and anti-intellectualism from where I sit.

Comment #6: Zifnab25  on  11/15  at  08:53 PM

revolutionary Amanda

Comment #7: scratchy888  on  11/15  at  08:55 PM

Isn’t the whole chant of the free-marketeers that informed consent should rule?

The chant, yes. The practice is boiled down to “caveat should have emptored more”. (Yeah, I’m not “up in my Latin and Greek”, so someone else will have to do the translation.)

Comment #8: ThresherK  on  11/15  at  08:57 PM

“I smoke things that might give me testicular cancer because it makes me look more manly.”

Uncontrollable ball growth is ... sort of manly? I think he should smoke while fighting a bear, though; tried and true, sure-fire manliness right there. :D

(OMG he could fight Smokey the Bear. Pretty sure trying to prevent forest fires makes that fuzzy fucker a liberal bear! *conservasplode*)

Comment #9: Bagelsan  on  11/15  at  08:59 PM

Amanda, you’ve pointed out before how anti-feminist rhetoric oscillates wildly between feminists as reckless hedonists and feminists as prudish spinsters.  Given that, there’s nothing particularly _more_ contradictory about “puritanism” and “free love” being bricks in the same monument.

Comment #10: FlipYrWhig  on  11/15  at  09:14 PM

For instance, the term “Negro worship” has been replaced with “political correctness”, though I do imagine the two terms are used to promote roughly the same argument.

He separates it out a bit in the cartoon. The middle block on the left says “witch burning”—that’s really that day’s accusation of political correctness. “How dare you call other people out for simply wanting to live their everyday ‘Murkin lives by, y’know, owning other people?! You’re obviously over-reacting to perfectly normal behaviour!”

“Negro worship” is a more blunt version of modern conservative dog-whistles or the self-pity of Privilege Denying Dude. “You’re too busy loving African-Americans to care about the plight of poor oppressed white males.”

Comment #11: Gracchus.  on  11/15  at  09:16 PM

“I’ve noted before on this blog that the “piss the liberals off” meme has gotten to the point where conservatives are expressing a willingness to hurt their own bodies to “show” us.”

It seems like being that sort of person is more than adequate punishment for, well, being that sort of person.  If only they’d have the decency to leave the rest of us the fuck out of it.

Comment #12: preying mantis  on  11/15  at  09:20 PM

You know, the funny part is, he’s demonstrating that he himself is exactly the kind of idiot he’s pretending people aren’t.  And it’s true—without conservatives and their self- and other-destructive behavior, some aspects of government would be less prevalent.  Can you imagine a world in which we didn’t need an EEOC, because the idea of someone discriminating based on race, gender, or other protected classes was not relevant?

TL;DR: Look in the mirror, Daniel.

PS: He doesn’t look particularly dorky in the picture.  He needs a haircut and new glasses, but he’s fine.  That’s self-loathing talking.

Comment #13: Punditus Maximus  on  11/15  at  09:51 PM

I’ve noted before on this blog that the “piss the liberals off” meme has gotten to the point where conservatives are expressing a willingness to hurt their own bodies to “show” us.

I’ve noticed the same thing with the annual Earth Hour event in which people turn off everything for an hour to symbolically fight global warming.  The wingnuts then boast how they turned on every electrical appliance in their home.

Sometimes I think these wingnut guys would cut off their own penises if they thought it would offend a liberal.  Well, I for one would be very offended, so I guess they better start looking for some clean, sharp blades.

Comment #14: Tommykey  on  11/15  at  10:13 PM

He doesn’t look particularly dorky in the picture.  He needs a haircut and new glasses, but he’s fine.

Indeed. Taking the picture out of context, he looks like exactly the kind of “dork” I might hang out with—making a goofy face, wearing a slightly computer-guy-esque shirt, the spines of look-like-maybe-sci-fi? books peeking out behind him… Too bad he’s apparently an insecure, hateful, loathsome human being on the inside.

(Conservative guys, if y’all stopped being actively awful, people would probably think you were perfectly decent!)

Comment #15: Bagelsan  on  11/15  at  10:14 PM

Good point, Flip.

Comment #16: Amanda Marcotte  on  11/15  at  10:28 PM

It’s really weird to see this cartoon here, because I just saw it a few days ago when I started reading a wonderful biography of John Brown by David S. Reynolds. There’s a lot of discussion about pre-Civil War politics in the book (including a chapter on Brown’s Puritanism,) and I’m continually amazed at how familiar it all is. Bleeding Kansas was all Real Men showing those sissyfied northerners who was boss until scary ole John Brown came along and gave the slavers a taste of there own medicine, at which point all the Real Men wet their pants and started playing at being victimized. Sound familiar?

Anyway, I thought that was a pretty awesome coincidence and a really good chance to promote a really good book.

Comment #17: Svlad Jelly  on  11/15  at  10:41 PM

John Brown’s in the cartoon, actually, near the middle holding a pike.

Comment #18: Svlad Jelly  on  11/15  at  10:44 PM

making a goofy face, wearing a slightly computer-guy-esque shirt, the spines of look-like-maybe-sci-fi? books peeking out behind him…

Guess again, dear - the library labels, the covers half hanging off old bindings - I’m guessing political science, maybe law.  One of the prime choices for higher education among douches - he’s probably intending to become staff for a Republican Congressman…

Comment #19: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  11/15  at  10:45 PM

I’m guessing political science, maybe law.

I suppooooose. A lot of them remind me of the spines of my dad’s old sci-fi, so I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Comment #20: Bagelsan  on  11/15  at  11:02 PM

I like his green shirt. I have many shirts like that.

Comment #21: PhysioProf  on  11/15  at  11:08 PM

Amanda, this is spot-on, but you’ve spent a lot of time thinking this out when it wasn’t necessary. Any straight, white male liberal could have told you all this, because straight, white male conservatives always assume we’re conservatives too, so they feel free to spell it all out quite explicitly.

Sometimes I think these wingnut guys would cut off their own penises if they thought it would offend a liberal.  Well, I for one would be very offended, so I guess they better start looking for some clean, sharp blades.

The title of the Sadly, No! post was “Drinking Antifreeze Also Annoys Liberals, Daniel.”

Comment #22: RickMassimo  on  11/15  at  11:10 PM

@PIATOR

I think I can make out this and a biography of Einstein.  History?

Comment #23: Atheist, A Feminist  on  11/15  at  11:18 PM

<snark>

He’s going to take up smoking against because it annoys liberals, not because he’s weak-willed addict who doesn’t have the moral fiber to control his cravings.

</snark>

And Hummers had a miserable ride and no interior space to speak of…

Interestingly enough, there’s a whole evolutionary sub-theory built around this kind of self-harm. The idea is that by undertaking self-destructive projects (like growing extra-long tail feathers or drinking gasoline) you’re advertising that your genes are so superduper fit that you can win the reproductive race with one limb tied behind your back.

Comment #24: paul  on  11/15  at  11:27 PM

@paul

Well, he’s never going to win the race looking like a dork, now, is he?

(I actually agree with Bagelsan that he is pretty cute.  Too bad he doesn’t agree with us.)

Comment #25: Atheist, A Feminist  on  11/15  at  11:33 PM

Too bad he doesn’t agree with us.

Also, just the fact that we are willing to say nice stuff about him probably means we’re deeply damaged liberal sluts. (Or prudes? Lesbians?) Or something. I dunno. Much like the Log Cabin Republicans, token minority Teabaggers, and the intelligent female conservatives, he likely refuses to join the <strike>political party</strike> club that would actually have him. :p

Comment #26: Bagelsan  on  11/16  at  12:02 AM

Dunno what he’s all offended about. It’s not like we compared a photo of his face to, say, Matt Damon’s, and circulated it as a “humorous” graphic illustrating the difference between conservative and liberal men.

Comment #27: kaje  on  11/16  at  12:11 AM

Okay, the culture wars have always been with us. The charges levied against liberals by conservatives have always been inconsistent. Moderates have wobbled between the two forever. The issue is what to do about it?

Comment #28: Lee  on  11/16  at  12:35 AM

JThompson at 2: The free market people believe in caveat emptor, let the buyer beware. Basically, an individual is supposed to make judgments concerning products only aided by her own perceptions rather than with warning labels.

Comment #29: Lee  on  11/16  at  12:37 AM

When I first saw the cartoon I assumed that this post was a follow-up to your Kanye as Cassandra post.  Apparently Kanye is not Cassandra - he is a member of the Illuminati and/or a devil worshipper.

Comment #30: What the what?  on  11/16  at  01:32 AM

I don’t remember if it was from European or South American cigarettes, but the warnings were half the size of the box and carried graphic pictures of whatever was being warned about.  So there was a picture of a smoked-up lung, a picture of a miscarriage, but for erectile dysfunction it was just a picture of a drooping cigarette.  But yeah, some fraction of the boxes featured a picture of a fetus.  Welcome to flavor country.

Comment #31: Kyso K  on  11/16  at  01:48 AM

I would point out to them that even suicide bombers know you have to pick one more victim than yourself in order to make an impact.

WIN

Comment #32: Ms Kate  on  11/16  at  01:53 AM

Paul @ 25: Actually, it turns out that arbitrary aesthetic preferences alone can account for sexual selection; actual fitness isn’t necessary. Natalie Angier, in Woman: an Intimate Geography, suggests that this is alone accounts for humans’ curviness among other things.

Comment #33: bad Jim  on  11/16  at  03:16 AM

Didn’t he used to be on Blue’s Clues?  It’s the same shirt, anyway…

Comment #34: Captain Bathrobe  on  11/16  at  03:26 AM

I can’t get over the “free love” block. I’m having visions of 1850’s hippies now. I wonder what it actually refers to?

Comment #35: jadehawk  on  11/16  at  03:44 AM

oh, and i love how it would make some republicans’ heads explode to have their precious republican party identified with socialists, atheists, and free love

Comment #36: jadehawk  on  11/16  at  03:48 AM

jadehawk:

Pretty much the same thing that was going on in the 1960s.  Free love is exactly what it sounds like it is.  Nothing is new under the sun.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6896/is_8/ai_n28319835/

Actually, it’s surprising how progressive and forward-thinking people were back then, given the propaganda that’s been sold to us by conservatives about how wonderful and patriarchal life was back then.  I remember being shocked that it was par for the course for house guests to spend the nights in bed with their hosts, male and female alike.

Comment #37: speedbudget  on  11/16  at  09:22 AM

I first saw that cartoon in a high school textbook (clearly not one that would be Texas-approved these days), and was struck by its selection of pejoratives to hang upon the leftist Republicans.  The phrase “Negro Worship” in particular was a powerful one: if we don’t despise dark-skinned people, it must mean that we worship them.

It makes clearer what the modern-day Republicans were getting at when they claimed we believed candidate Obama was “The One”, a secular Messiah—and probably why some of them did in fact believe he was the Antichrist.

Comment #38: Dr. Psycho  on  11/16  at  09:40 AM

Lee @29, I realize that by leaving that comment every third post, you think you sound impossibly smart.  But you actually remind me of my dad scolding me about having bad handwriting, which is to say you’re missing the point entirely.  a) Because you think describing a problem has no relationship to fixing it, b) because despite what you think is a killer point, you’ve only just highlighted that you don’t have a catch-all solution and c) your favoritest comment in the world implies that there is a catch-all solution when there isn’t.  Thus, by trying to look clever, you’re accomplishing the opposite.  So, I’d suggest finding another tactic.

Comment #39: Amanda Marcotte  on  11/16  at  10:33 AM

jadehawk, you aren’t far off.  Free love was closer to polyamory than to the post-liberation sexual mores of average Americans conservatives object to while often indulging themselves.  Which makes sense—-there wasn’t reliable contraception back then, so the presumption was children were an inevitable result and taking care of them had to be considered.

Comment #40: Amanda Marcotte  on  11/16  at  10:37 AM

I remember being shocked that it was par for the course for house guests to spend the nights in bed with their hosts, male and female alike.

That was less about being free-thinking and more a result of necessity, because there weren’t enough beds to go around in most homes.  I would actually argue this is still a common practice.  I’ve shared beds with friends and relatives when there weren’t enough to go around.

Comment #41: Amanda Marcotte  on  11/16  at  10:40 AM

bad Jim @ 34:

On the other hand, at some point the arbitrary aesthetic choice has to have some connection (even if slight) to something like fitness or the species will tank. But it doesn’t take much to do that.

I wasn’t proposing the the deliberate-damage theory is actually any good—my impression from reading papers and books in the area was that there might be a tiny kernel of usefulness in it surrounded by a huge amount of speculation and wishful thinking from guys hooked on vicarious macho tripping.

Comment #42: paul  on  11/16  at  10:42 AM

The chant, yes. The practice is boiled down to “caveat should have emptored more”. (Yeah, I’m not “up in my Latin and Greek”, so someone else will have to do the translation.)

“maxime caverit emptor” buyer should have been most especailly wary.
I went ahead and shifted it into the perfect subjunctive because it’s always after something terrible has happened that these types start spouting off about how it’s the consumer’s duty to watch out for their own money and health.

Comment #43: scrumby  on  11/16  at  11:21 AM

Wow, I would not have known that cartoon was over a century old if you hadn’t said it.  In fact, as I was reading I was expecting to hear that you found it in a paper yesterday.

FWIW, “Puritanism” could possibly be replaced with the concept of Straight Edge today.

Comment #44: bananacat  on  11/16  at  11:31 AM

eheheh, “Chicago Platform.” Plus ca change, indeed.

Comment #45: Well, what?  on  11/16  at  12:36 PM

Re: Amanda, sorry.

  Just noticed another “the more things change” similarity. The accusations of cosnservative culture warriors have nothing to do with actual platform of their political opponents. Even back then, the Republican Party believed that the best way to help the American people economically was to help American businesses. Albeit, back then they prefered to do this via tariffs, subsidies, and the ocassioanal bout of union busting. Now they prefer tax cuts, subsidies, and union busting. They were not socialists, not even close. I don’t even want to get into the accusations regarding social issues for inaccuracy.

Comment #46: Lee  on  11/16  at  01:26 PM

As soft-hearted as I am, I’m not going to stay up at night thinking, “Some simple minded fool is out there killing himself just to show me he has every right to do it.”

No, no, no, this is not how to do it. We should be determinedly promoting the idea that nothing upsets liberals more than when people hurt themselves to prove us wrong.

Me, I get positively distraught at the thought of some doofus repeatedly hitting himself in the balls with a hammer. Honestly, I really do. Nothing upsets me more.

Comment #47: Dunc  on  11/16  at  01:42 PM

That fellow is complaining that Sadly No! made him look silly by publishing that picture?  What a weenie.

Has he even *looked* at Sadly No!?  When they publish an insulting picture, no one has to project insult, they make it obvious—they photoshop the pictures to the point of, in many case, frank obscenity. 

I looove Sadly No!

Comment #48: Older  on  11/16  at  02:48 PM

@44, Scrumby thank you. If you need help with anything Tin Pan Alley , let me know. I didn’t major in it but have amassed a deep knowledge.

Comment #50: ThresherK  on  11/16  at  04:34 PM

Gotta have that shirt!

Comment #51: Jerry Vinokurov  on  11/16  at  05:55 PM

Scrumby:

“Romanes eunt domus? People called Romans, they go, the house?”

“It says ‘Romans go home!’”

“No it doesn’t!”

Sorry, Monty Python got the better of me, please proceed.

Comment #52: tannenburg  on  11/16  at  06:44 PM

This cartoon reminds me of the Freedoms Foundation at Valley Forge, where there is a notorious monument, the “Bill of Responsibilities,” depicting American principles (with a definitely right-wing slant) as resting on a “Fundamental Belief in God.” It makes sense that the right-wingers think liberal beliefs are similarly simplistically structured and rest on a fundamental atheism.

Bill of Responsibilities

While working in a historical archive, I read (copies) of letters from the Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library in which President Eisenhower had to constantly fend off the nagging requests of the guy who was running the Freedoms Foundation at the time. This is how I know about the Freedoms Foundation. They now have a website, which I will spare you the link.

Comment #53: sara  on  11/16  at  10:16 PM

wow, thanks Amanda and speedbudget. this free love thing is really fascinating

Comment #54: jadehawk  on  11/16  at  11:31 PM

Amanda, I agree it had a lot to do with space and money, but not in a manor house.  And I can imagine very few men today sharing a bed with a male friend.  One or the other would opt to sleep on the floor or couch rather than in a bed with their best guy pal.

Comment #55: speedbudget  on  11/17  at  10:22 AM

I think central/more effecient/available heat had more to do with the separate sleeping arrangements than more numorous beds.

Comment #56: helen w. h.  on  11/17  at  11:56 AM

The business about Puritanism was a common meme on the Southern side during the Civil War:

“There is indeed a difference between the two peoples. Let no man hug the delusion that there can be renewed association between them. Our enemies are a traditionless and a homeless race; from the time of Cromwell to the present moment they have been disturbers of the peace of the world. Gathered together by Cromwell from the bogs and fens of the North of Ireland and of England, they commenced by disturbing the peace of their own country; they disturbed Holland, to which they fled, and they disturbed England on their return. They persecuted Catholics in England, and they hung Quakers and witches in America . . .”—Jefferson Davis, 1862

http://jeffersondavis.rice.edu/resources.cfm?doc_id=1520

Comment #57: rea  on  11/17  at  12:15 PM

@rea

Great quotation.  The cognitive dissonance has always been strong with that group, huh?  Shorter Jefferson Davis: “They are a traditionless group with a long tradition of fucking things up for us good guys.”

Comment #58: Atheist, A Feminist  on  11/17  at  01:05 PM

FTR, “Puritanism” probably refers to an activist strand of Protestantism that was the rage in the North, especially in the mid-to-late nineteenth century and early twentieth century.  These guys were the loudest popular voice in support for abolitionism - the John Brown types came from there, as did the crusading spirit you find in “The Battle Hymn Of The Republic.”

Later, they’d go on to advocate for Prohibition, the Social Gospel, and virulent anti-immigrant policies (Catholics and Jews threatening their religion, y’see)...  They’re hard to place on our spectrum; in some ways they were like the Christian Right, but also like the Christian Left, and also like liberals who crusade against social evils like smoking.

But yeah; in context, since it’s 1862, “Puritanism” means “abolitionism,” I’m pretty sure.

Comment #59: Hannibal_Smith  on  11/17  at  07:35 PM

Don’t forget that Yankees like Nataniel Hawthorn though of the Puritans as the foundation of American society:

A character in Nathaniel Hawthorne’s short story “The Gray Champion,” often associated with his collection “Twice-Told Tales.” To literature students, Gray is far less well-known than some of Hawthorne’s more successful literary works, such as “The Scarlet Letter.” In the story, he is a pilgrim-esque ghost figure that appears briefly in the 18th-century world to protest power abuses by a British officer. While he does little in the story but march around, denounce the officer, and then vanish into thin air, his spirit of defiance stirs and inspires the crowd around him. Shortly after this, the officer loses his position, just as the apparition of Gray had promised. The tale warns of pride coming before a fall in the human heart, similar to how Scarlet Letter warns against lust, secrecy, and hypocrisy. While the events of the story are pre-Revolution, the tone is very much that of the American Revolution.

http://tinyurl.com/2ee2y9j

Comment #60: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  11/17  at  10:29 PM

One thing about the Puritans, at least in the early colonial days, is that they earnestly wanted the church and the state to have nothing to do with each other. They’re the ones who decided marriage should be a civil contract rather than a religious sacrament.
Considering how conservatives want to define the U.S. as “a Christian nation” and legislate sexuality based on their own religion and dismiss the establishment clause of the 1st Amendment, I could see how Puritans would be considered a threat akin to socialism and atheism.

Comment #61: snobographer  on  11/17  at  10:50 PM

rea @58,

True.  Yet more evidence that the American Civil War was a delayed sequel to the English Civil War, with the Puritan “Levelers” facing off against the Cavalier wanna-be “nobility”.

Ohhh, look!  There’s even a Dark Mark on the base of the 1962 cartoon, so you know it’s evil!*

*Yes, I know that this cartoon was published a hundred and thirty years before “Harry Potter” hit print; I was just pleased to note that the usual “evil symbol” hasn’t changed in all that time.

Comment #62: Blue Jean  on  11/18  at  02:50 PM

I was going to note that “Puritans” of the cartoon were probably abolitionists and prohibitionists, but I see you folks are already there.  The important part of that for me, though, is that it likely refers to the Temperance movement—specifically, the branch of it composed of women (the stereotype is Carry Nation, but most were saner) who wanted to ban alcohol because men went to bars with their paychecks, drank up the money that should have gone to family budgets, and then went home and beat their wives and children.  (I know, it’s a stereotype too—but one with enough reality behind it to be powerful.)

So the direct descendants of the 1862 anti-“Puritans” are the ones now who say that feminists are ruining their fun by, for instance, insisting that women have the right to refuse consent to sex instead of just letting the males satisfy their own needs; or insisting on their own right to reproductive choice irrespective of whether A Man Has the Evolutionary Need to Reproduce His Genes!

Comment #63: ookpik  on  11/19  at  04:29 AM

Uh, the WCTU wasn’t organized until 1874, but the problem you talk about was widespread enough that there were songs written about it:

Father, dear father, come home with me now,
The clock in the steeple strikes one;
You said you were coming right home from the shop
As soon as your day’s work was done;
Our fire has gone out, our house is all dark,
And mother’s been watching since tea,
With poor brother Benny so sick in her arms
And no one to help her but me,
Come home! come home! come home!
Please father, dear father, come home.

http://ingeb.org/songs/fatherde.html

It was written in 1864.

Comment #64: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  11/19  at  11:15 AM

Comment #64: ookpik - There are still people who cite the temperance movement as a dogwhistle to discredit the suffrage movement. Of course these people also wave away any information about the temperance movement being largely an effort to combat domestic abuse. ‘You’re painting all men as abusers! Wah!

Comment #65: snobographer  on  11/19  at  05:54 PM

@snobographer

There are still people who cite the temperance movement as a dogwhistle to discredit the suffrage movement.

If the Tea Party keeps heading in the direction it has been going, I bet one of these days we’ll see people using the abolitionist movement the same way.

Comment #66: Atheist, A Feminist  on  11/19  at  08:11 PM
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