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Family Research Council founder vacations with his rent boy, er, ‘Travel Assistant’

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Ho, ho, ho, here we go…another professional anti-homo homosexual surfs for man-on-man vacation buddy. Miami New Times:

The pictures on the Rentboy.com profile show a shirtless young man with delicate features, guileless eyes, and sun-kissed, hairless skin. The profile touts his “smooth, sweet, tight ass” and “perfectly built 8 inch cock (uncut)” and explains he is “sensual,” “wild,” and “up for anything” — as long you ask first. And as long as you pay.

On April 13, the “rent boy” (whom we’ll call Lucien) arrived at Miami International Airport on Iberian Airlines Flight 6123, after a ten-day, fully subsidized trip to Europe. He was soon followed out of customs by an old man with an atavistic mustache and a desperate blond comb-over, pushing an overburdened baggage cart.

That man was George Alan Rekers, of North Miami — the callboy’s client and, as it happens, one of America’s most prominent anti-gay activists. Rekers, a Baptist minister who is a leading scholar for the Christian right, left the terminal with his gay escort, looking a bit discomfited when a picture of the two was snapped with a hot-pink digital camera.

...Yet Rekers wouldn’t deny he met his slender, blond escort at Rentboy.com — which features homepage images of men in bondage and grainy videos of crotch-rubbing twinks — and Lucien confirmed it.

And Rekers is not just the founder of the FRC, he’s on the board of therapize-away-the-gay org National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH). I guess he’s fallen off the wagon; but he’s earned a rep as a class-A homo-hater, according to friend of the Blend Wayne Besen.

“While he keeps a low public profile, his fingerprints are on almost every anti-gay effort to demean and dehumanize LGBT people,” says Wayne Besen, a gay rights advocate in New York City and the executive director of Truth Wins Out, which investigates the anti-gay movement. “His work is ubiquitously cited by lobby groups that work to deny equality to LGBT Americans. Rekers has caused a great deal of harm to gay and lesbian individuals.”

The New Times underscored that Rekers couldn’t have just casually come across “Lucian’s” profile. He would have had to sign up and agree to Rentboy.com’s terms of service then find his listing on the site.

As a favor to Rekers, Lucien recently removed any wanton sexual descriptors from his Rentboy profile. Though he does admit Rekers “likes younger guys to hang out with,” Lucien is protective of his erstwhile client. He describes Rekers primarily as a family man — one whose passion for oppressing homosexuals is dwarfed by his desire to help children. “You don’t understand how much this guy honestly cares about taking care of kids,” he says.

Rekers and the rent boy denied having sex; Rekers classifies their relationship in this manner:

“I’d like to propose another trip to Rome, Italy, for a week or more,” Rekers wrote in an email dated March 21 obtained by New Times. “This is so exciting to have a nice Travel Assistant and traveling companion! Wow! I’m so glad I met you.”

UPDATE: Wayne weighs in with more:

Both the sex worker and Rekers deny having sex on the trip, and emails exchanged between the two prior to their escapade are carefully worded. Reached by New Times reporters Penn Bullock and Brandon K. Thorp, who broke the story, before a trip to Bermuda, Rekers said he learned that the man in question was a prostitute only midway through their vacation. “I had surgery,” Rekers said, “and I can’t lift luggage. That’s why I hired him.” (Though medical problems didn’t stop him from pushing the large baggage cart through Miami International Airport, according to the New Times.)

“It is clear that Rekers has baggage and certainly needs help,” said Besen. “At least he did not say he was walking the Appalachian Trail. Given the sordid and tawdry facts, he should immediately step down from NARTH’s Board and apologize to the LGBT community for his extreme hypocrisy and self-loathing. As of today, his entire body of work on LGBT issues is rendered meaningless.”

This is the second NARTH board member to be exposed as a fraud in the past three months. In February, Arthur Abba Goldberg was unmasked as a con artist who had served prison time for bond fraud. Goldberg was also the co-fonder of Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality (JONAH). Goldberg resigned from NARTH’s board in shame.

UPDATE 2: Lord have mercy. Rekers had the nerve to respond to Joe. My. God with some serious drivel.

No, he isn’t gay, he’s just looking for some good hired help on Rentboy.com. He goes on to quote a lot of scripture and this:

If you talk with my travel assistant that the story called “Lucien,” you will find I spent a great deal of time sharing scientific information on the desirability of abandoning homosexual intercourse, and I shared the Gospel of Jesus Christ with him in great detail.

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 02:12 PM • (53) Comments

Why would he sign up for Rentboy.com if he just needed a travel assistant? Also, is it bad that every time I hear the term “rent boy” I think of Daffyd on Little Britain parading around in yellow latex?

Comment #1: Liz212  on  05/04  at  02:27 PM

I don’t get how the high profile gaybashers always seem to get discovered in these highly dramatic circumstances. Why is it never with a Ted who lives around the corner whom he has secretly loved for years? Why is it always rentboys and propositioning cops or something dramatic like that?

Comment #2: pharmakos  on  05/04  at  02:42 PM

At what point do anti-gay bigots fall off their perch as elitist religious snobs and come down to the level of your typical white bread misogynist.  The dude traffics in prostitutes while openly disparaging others in committed relationships, because he considers them icky.  How the hell is he any different than Charlie Sheen?

Comment #3: Zifnab25  on  05/04  at  02:43 PM

Why on earth would one going looking for a sex worker to hire for such a lengthy period if one was not interested in sexual services?  Their time generally does not come cheap, even on posh vacations.  If all a person needs is a travel assistant, you’d think it wouldn’t be difficult to find someone in the immediate social circle interested in jetting off to Europe or Bermuda in exchange for baggage wrangling.  Worst cover story ever, Mr. Rekers.

Comment #4: preying mantis  on  05/04  at  02:44 PM

And they booked a twin room, doubtless to save on the cost of two single rooms. Thrifty!

Comment #5: MissPrism  on  05/04  at  02:45 PM

Why is it never with a Ted who lives around the corner whom he has secretly loved for years?

Wasn’t that more or less the circumstance of Gov. McGreevy?

Comment #6: libdevil  on  05/04  at  02:51 PM

Can’t lift luggage?  Uhm, doesn’t the airport have handicapped services?  I mean, my pacemakered, osteoporatic, emphysymaed elderly parent couldn’t exactly lift her suitcases either - never had to hire an “assistant” to travel.

Comment #7: phylosopher  on  05/04  at  02:53 PM

I have a happy.

Comment #8: BABH  on  05/04  at  02:53 PM

“I don’t get how the high profile gaybashers always seem to get discovered in these highly dramatic circumstances.”

Well, if your worldview has been warped around a false binary, it can be very easy to buy into or very difficult to avoid the idea that there are no degrees to behavior.  So if you’re going to give in to the terrible sin of homosexuality, there’s either no desire for or no internal mechanism to effect so much as a whit of moderation.  If you layer the “Jesus will forgive you” thing on top of that and elide a series of acts into a seamless sin-bender, you can get to a point where it’s not just that there’s no reason not to go for broke when you sin, but that there are some rather pedestrian reactions against self-denial specifically encouraging riding that wagon until the wheels fall off.  It’s more or less the same thing you see when people on restrictive diets react to a real or perceived deviation from the diet by gorging—the disordered eating approach to sexual relationships.

Comment #9: preying mantis  on  05/04  at  02:56 PM

I don’t get how the high profile gaybashers always seem to get discovered in these highly dramatic circumstances. Why is it never with a Ted who lives around the corner whom he has secretly loved for years? Why is it always rentboys and propositioning cops or something dramatic like that?

They are incapable of love. I’m only half joking. For them it’s all about the sexual thrill. Like in most things, just listen to what they say about the opposition. They say gays are only after cheap sex and are incapable of true love. That’s because that’s what *they* feel, and they assume everyone is broken like them.

I’m sure more than half of the thrill they get is from doing something naughty like doing it in a public bathroom or paying someone so they are forced to do anything you wish no matter how disgusting (and since they’re self-loathing, I’m sure they think regular gay sex is disgusting enough that sane people would only do it for money).

And they booked a twin room, doubtless to save on the cost of two single rooms. Thrifty!

To be fair, I do that all the time. To be unfair, I happen to be a lower middle class geek on a budget travelling with fellow geeks on a budget to conventions and competitions, and I don’t pay thousands of dollars a day for a ‘travel assistant’.

Comment #10: BlackBloc  on  05/04  at  02:56 PM

They live their lives feeding on the fear and prejudice of others.  It probably becomes like a drug to dupe these people - if you’re self-loathing for being gay, and societal and/or religious pressures are causing the self-hate, it doesn’t seem likely you’d respect those people much.  So the high of the clandestine affair with a neighbour is no longer what it used to be, and you find yourself renting a prostitute.  That, plus the fact that the people who follow these people tend to place them on pedestals, so the idolised think they are untouchable.

Comment #11: lpwallaby  on  05/04  at  02:59 PM

“Lucien” may well be telling the truth about the absence of sexual activity.  A friend of mine is in the adult entertainment business (his preferred term), and gets most of his clients through Rentboy.  He says that the majority of his clients - and the best paying ones - are people who want companionship, conversation and maybe a little affection, but do not demand or seem to require sex.

That said, the possibility of sex is always there, and flirtation is part of the gig.  I can’t think of any other reason Rekers would go to Rentboy rather than offering the opportunity to the adult child of a colleague (unless the colleagues have good reason not to want their kids traveling with him, a distinct possibility) or going through the job board at a local university.  And either of those options would have been MUCH less expensive as well.

Bottom line (pardon the pun): Regardless of whether they actually had sex or not, this trip was SO gay that yeah, it pretty much makes Rekers a total hypocrite.  Imagine my shock.

Comment #12: JadedOptimist  on  05/04  at  03:01 PM

I never know whether to feel sorry for these people. I look at this story and, indulging my liberal tendency to think the best of others, I say “wow, it must be horrible to live such a lie and deal with all that guilt.”

But perhaps it is easier than I imagine to be an out-and-out shit who doesn’t care at all for the people he hurts and lies to.

Comment #13: MissPrism  on  05/04  at  03:26 PM

Why is it never with a Ted who lives around the corner whom he has secretly loved for years? Why is it always rentboys and propositioning cops or something dramatic like that?

Well, I’m just guessing, but I think it’s because, if you’re a big high-profile swinging dick of an anti-gay activist, maybe you’re really, really invested in compartmentalizing between your anti-gay day job and the lust for throbbing cocks that consumes you as soon as the sun goes down. Hiring a prostitute does a lot less to imperil that compartmentalization than does blowing Ted down the street, whose ass looks unbelievable in a pair of Sansabelt slacks (and I really can’t believe I even just typed that clause); with a prostitute, after all, you don’t have to worry about seeing him ever again if you’re not inclined to, and you certainly don’t have to worry about looking ol’ Ted in the eye at the Kiwanis dinner and wondering if he’s lost as much respect for you as you have for him.

Comment #14: Aaron  on  05/04  at  03:44 PM

What’s our definition of “having sex” here? Remember Bill Clinton and Jimmy Swaggart. (Or it it another straight televangelist I’m thinking about?)

Comment #15: paul  on  05/04  at  03:49 PM

Here in Ft. Lauderdale, you see a lot of older men out with young escorts.  Sometimes it is just for the company, but they are paying top dollar.  In our city, there are over 80 profiles of local escorts on Rentboy.com.  BTW, you can look at the profiles without joining.  I don’t need to pay yet! 

I wonder if these people consider themselves so far above us that they think they won’t get caught or nothing will come of it.  In Miami or Ft. Lauderdale, where you don’t need to be in the closet, this whole business appears so strange.  Why make a living off of gay bashing when everything else is open to you?  Rekers could be an academic and be out, and hire as many companions as he likes.  Why does he feel the need to please middle america when he could live a great out life in SE Florida?  I don’t know if self-loathing explains it.  I understand Charlie Christ’s motivation, as the rest of Florida is very much Red State.  He could not get elected if he was out.  Rekers just strikes me as f*cked up.

Comment #16: jackspratt  on  05/04  at  03:49 PM

Can’t lift luggage?  Uhm, doesn’t the airport have handicapped services?  I mean, my pacemakered, osteoporatic, emphysymaed elderly parent couldn’t exactly lift her suitcases either - never had to hire an “assistant” to travel.
Comment #7: phylosopher on 05/04 at 12:53 PM

Not that this would be why he needed an assistant from rentboy.com, but, on a trip, you’re not just going to the airport.  You’re going to the hotel, out shopping and sightseeing, and so on.  Someone with you who’s strong and able is a huge benefit if you’re neither of those and can afford one.

If you can afford one who’s eye candy too, so much the better, the thinking must go.  Gotta agree with JadedOptimist that there might well have been “no sex.”  That doesn’t mean the interest isn’t there, he just might not be able (what was that surgery anyway) or unwilling to compromise his principles that far.  Or they define “sex” in a way that excludes whatever they did.

Maybe he’ll try to spin it as a successful “I defied temptation” deal.

Comment #17: oldfeminist  on  05/04  at  03:54 PM

I wonder if these people consider themselves so far above us that they think they won’t get caught or nothing will come of it.

I wouldn’t be surprised. An individual with an authoritarian mindset, who happens for many years to be a leader in a very hierarchical and authoritarian movement, no doubt assumes inviolability of the leader and probably has had that validated by experience many times.

Comment #18: Theron  on  05/04  at  03:59 PM

“You don’t understand how much this guy honestly cares about taking care of kids,” he says.

Exactly. Rekers wouldn’t have insisted on continually playing out that “church youth group leader and hung Sunday school student” scene with “Lucien” if he didn’t care about the chilllllddddrrrrennnnn.

I don’t get how the high profile gaybashers always seem to get discovered in these highly dramatic circumstances.

Arrogance and hubris—not only are they addicted to the thrill, but they believe that their public devotion to the Invisible Bearded Sky Man™ and/or their position of power (e.g. Idaho’s Senatorial seat) and/or their money gives them a free pass.

Sadly, their moronic followers often give them just that.

I never know whether to feel sorry for these people. I look at this story and, indulging my liberal tendency to think the best of others, I say “wow, it must be horrible to live such a lie and deal with all that guilt.”

He lost any chance at that sympathy the moment he took his little campaign of self-hatred public. This arsehole and his fellow hypocrites and hypocritical organisations (hi, Ratzi!) deserve what they get, including the public humiliation and personal turmoil that comes with living a destructive and self-righteous lie.

Comment #19: Gracchus.  on  05/04  at  04:08 PM

What’s our definition of “having sex” here? Remember Bill Clinton and Jimmy Swaggart. (Or it it another straight televangelist I’m thinking about?)

That’s definitely a factor. Arseholes like Rekers make Clinton look like a piker, because they’ve actually convinced themselves that anything outside of penis-to-vaginal intercourse doesn’t count as sex. Heck, many Xtian teenagers use that same view in their interpretation of “abstinence-only” sex ed.

Comment #20: Gracchus.  on  05/04  at  04:16 PM

I think I’ll fall all over myself in astonishment the first time one of these professional homophobes DOESN’T turn out to be a self-hating closet case. It’s so fricking predictable.

Comment #21: Steve LaBonne  on  05/04  at  04:17 PM

I don’t get how the high profile gaybashers always seem to get discovered in these highly dramatic circumstances. Why is it never with a Ted who lives around the corner whom he has secretly loved for years? Why is it always rentboys and propositioning cops or something dramatic like that?

It’s pure projection.

The homobigot Right has created such an extreme caricature of what they believe gay culture to be that in their minds when they hear the word “gay”, the first thing that pops into their heads is a bawdy PRIDE parade with extremely effiminate queer men wearing assless chaps and shaved head butch women in biker clothing.  In their worldview, that’s the summation of what it means to be homosexual.

As such, when self-loathing gay homobigots act out on their innate sexual orientation, they often do so in a manner that fits the very narrow caricature of what they perceive the LGBT lifestyle to be.

The thing that frightens the homobigots the most isn’t risque and flamboyent PRIDE parades… it’s Mary and Sue (or Bob and Jack) down the street with the nicely kept yard and the generally vanilla “normal” good neighborly lifestyle that they live.

What they fear most is the day when most straight people will see LGBT people as essentially no different than themselves, except in their sexual orientation.

Comment #22: DTG in STL  on  05/04  at  04:20 PM

MY point, old fem was that Rekers is nowhere near as infirm as my parent was - note the loaded baggage cart. And that this was a pleasure, not a working trip.  And let’s see - unless he was at a really cheap ass hotel, carrying luggage isn’t necessary- um sorry ever heard of a bell hop? sorry but way toomany holes in this story, of course.

Comment #23: phylosopher  on  05/04  at  04:23 PM

Uhm wait a second - one article has Rekers as having adopted a boy.  And Rekers is against gay couples adopting he’s testified as such - hallloooo child protective services, please.

Comment #24: phylosopher  on  05/04  at  04:30 PM

UPDATE 2: Lord have mercy. Rekers had the nerve to respond to Joe. My. God with some serious drivel.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pspauld/BlogPix/RekersLetter.jpg

No, he isn’t gay, he’s just looking for some good hired help on Rentboy.com. He goes on to quote a lot of scripture and this:

If you talk with my travel assistant that the story called “Lucien,” you will find I spent a great deal of time sharing scientific information on the desirability of abandoning homosexual intercourse, and I shared the Gospel of Jesus Christ with him in great detail.

Comment #25: Pam Spaulding  on  05/04  at  04:31 PM

From queerty: The utter hypocrisy is astounding. And for all Rekers has to say about why gays shouldn’t be allowed to adopt children, this man — who pays traveling prostitutes for sex — adopted a 16-year-old boy four years ago. He is now Lucien’s age.

Read more: http://www.queerty.com/the-gay-rentboy-scandal-that-should-sink-bigot-baptist-minister-george-alan-rekers-20100504/#ixzz0mzVLu8Re

The stupid state let this fuckwad adopt a 16 y o boy???????!?!??!?!  Poor kid.

Comment #26: phylosopher  on  05/04  at  04:34 PM

OMFG that’s sick phylosopher ... poor kid, I hope he wasn’t expected to provide package ... er ... luggage assistance! Ewww!

Comment #27: Ms Kate  on  05/04  at  04:43 PM

It gets a bit more intriguing - according to his myspace, Ol’ George is also married.  Yet neither the kid (now 20) nor his wife wanted to help him carry his luggage on a leisure trip to Europe.

Comment #28: phylosopher  on  05/04  at  04:47 PM

OK, this gets weirder, Reker also seems to have other adult sons, one of whom he is close enough to to have co-written a book with - yet he has to find someone to carry his luggage on a European vacation? 
Enjoy!

Comment #29: phylosopher  on  05/04  at  05:07 PM

Pharmakos asked:

Why is it never with a Ted who lives around the corner whom he has secretly loved for years? Why is it always rentboys and propositioning cops or something dramatic like that?

Because this was just research? wink

Comment #30: Dana  on  05/04  at  05:26 PM

Jebus.  Not that I think carrying luggage is all this guy was doing, but having an able-bodied strong person with you if you are neither, on a vacation trip (and yes, even if it’s for pleasure and not for work, why the fuck would that make a difference?), is a big help. 

My mother couldn’t have negotiated Las Vegas by herself when we went a few years ago.  Not easily, anyway.  Instead of depending on finding someone to help you everywhere you go, a different person every playce, you take your help with you.  It’s not really that revolutionary a concept, is it?

Again, I’m not saying that that makes his story believable.  Just that it’s not that weird to want someone with you to help you on a trip, especially if you’re on an overseas trip where maybe you don’t know the language and aren’t sure whom to trust.

Not everyone is a bold solo traveler like your mom.

Comment #31: oldfeminist  on  05/04  at  05:32 PM

And pushing a luggage cart is different from picking up heavy luggage.  If you’ve had abdominal or back surgery, if your upper body strength isn’t that great, you could do one but not the other.  Carrying is often harder than pushing.  A well-designed luggage cart might be fairly easy to maneuver.

Comment #32: oldfeminist  on  05/04  at  05:34 PM

Jeebus back at you - Europe?  Not a third world country.  Fucking Europe.

Comment #33: phylosopher  on  05/04  at  05:48 PM

Again, I’m not saying that that makes his story believable.  Just that it’s not that weird to want someone with you to help you on a trip, especially if you’re on an overseas trip where maybe you don’t know the language and aren’t sure whom to trust.

Agreed. What is weird is to look for one’s travelling companion and baggage assistant on rentboy.com. Although now Reckers has made it difficult to find someone like that on Craigslist or a travel site: anyone posting such a request will get responses like “Yeah, I’ll lift your luggage, baby. I’ll lift it goo-oo-ood!

Next up from Reckers: “Why do these bellboys keep sucking my c*ck?” Who does this guy think he is: Sal Romano from Mad Men?

Comment #34: Gracchus.  on  05/04  at  06:04 PM

Yeah, maybe it would be nice to have someone else truck my luggage, but it would be unlikely I’d look for that someone on Rentboy.com.

I’m 60, and just got back from 10 days in San Francisco, and I hauled a heavy fucker up several flights of stairs in my hotel, in and out of cars, Bart and buses and through two airports.

All the same, if I needed a “travelling compainion” or luggage hauler, as a straight person I wouldn’t look for him on rentboy.com.

Doubt that my gay brother would either, but then again, he’s had a helpmate for travelling, his boyfriend for 34 years —still a boyfriend because fuckers like that self-loathing anti-gay gay have made sure my brother can’t marry in their state.

Comment #35: judybrowni  on  05/04  at  06:08 PM

I spent a great deal of time sharing scientific information on the desirability of abandoning homosexual intercourse, and I shared the Gospel of Jesus Christ with him in great detail.

Especially the part about suffering the little children to come unto you, right?

Comment #36: Bitter Scribe  on  05/04  at  06:09 PM

Getting a “traveling companion to lift luggage” is the new “hiking the Appalachian Trail”.

oldfeminist, let me third the observation that it’s not about having somebody to help with the heavy lifting, it’s about finding that person on rentboy.com. So you will please to can the lectures now, OK? They’re really getting tiresome.

Comment #37: Steve LaBonne  on  05/04  at  06:42 PM

It’s not gay if their balls didn’t touch.

Comment #38: sirkowski  on  05/04  at  07:27 PM

And this piece of shit, also did his damndest to deprive foster children in Floridaof a legal family and adoptive parents.

For instance, the baby and toddler rescued from a crack addicts parents (who couldn’t be bothered to feed them) given a true home and caring foster parents, who were prohibited from adopting the children for four years because they happened to be guilty of only one crime, that of being gay:

“during the case of Frank Gill and Tom Roe the arguments for continuing the existing ban on gay adoption was argued by the state, and the state brought expert witnesses to give testimony. 

The attorney general’s main expert witnesses was George Rekers, a Miami clinical psychologist and Baptist minister who believes gays are immoral and has written that gay activists are trying to legalize pedophilia. He argues gays are more prone to depressive disorders, substance abuse and unstable relationships, disqualifying them as adoptive parents.”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/4/863546/-Carrying-Luggage-for-Anti-Gay,-Anti-Child-Florida-Laws

So no more crap about how handy a rent boy would be for carrying your luggage, ‘kay?

Comment #39: judybrowni  on  05/04  at  08:03 PM

Wasn’t that more or less the circumstance of Gov. McGreevy?

Gov. McGreevey wasn’t an anti-gay activist, though. He was kind of a regular old Democratic governor of fairly liberal New Jersey. The reason he resigned after the affair was made public wasn’t because OMGTEHGAY HOW SHAMEFUL, it was because he made his boyfriend the Homeland Security Adviser even though he wasn’t the most qualified dude for the job, and you don’t goof off about who you put in charge of Homeland Security in a state where thousands of your constituents work in post 9/11 Manhattan.

Kind of sad, really.

Comment #40: thecynicalromantic  on  05/04  at  08:27 PM

Mr LaBonne wrote:

Getting a “traveling companion to lift luggage” is the new “hiking the Appalachian Trail”.

As someone who actually has hiked a small part of the Appalachian Trail, I’ll be really glad when that one dies.

Comment #42: Dana  on  05/04  at  09:25 PM

Yeah, that update pretty much squashes any hope of the “lifting of the luggage” idea. Kid doesn’t look like heavy lifting is his forte.

Comment #43: Lymis  on  05/04  at  09:37 PM

oldfeminist, let me third the observation that it’s not about having somebody to help with the heavy lifting, it’s about finding that person on rentboy.com. So you will please to can the lectures now, OK? They’re really getting tiresome.
Comment #37: Steve LaBonne on 05/04 at 04:42 PM

I have repeatedly said that finding that person on rentboy.com is obviously the giveaway, so what the fuck are you complaining about?  And no, saying they might not have had sex doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s as gay as a parade and hot for this young man and young men in general.

Perhaps you’d be more comfortable if I stopped refuting the ableist “no one needs help traveling, it’s not a third world country” bullshit. 

Or the anti-third-world-country bullshit, too.

Look, if you go to a country where you don’t know anyone and don’t know the language, you might actually want to be with someone else who does know your language, is friendly, knows you, and is able to help you physically with stuff you have trouble with.  All that part of it makes sense.

The getting of such a person from rentboy.com when you’re supposedly cured of teh ghey?  Is obviously wrong.  Which I’ve said all along.

Comment #44: oldfeminist  on  05/04  at  11:11 PM

I am the fuck complaining about the fact that you feel compelled to say over and over and over again something obvious that nobody has fucking disagreed with. That’s what the fuck I’m complaining about. Capisce?

Comment #45: Steve LaBonne  on  05/04  at  11:49 PM

Steve @45, phylosopher did ask a “who needs help traveling, anyway” question. mean, my pacemakered, osteoporatic, emphysymaed elderly parent couldn’t exactly lift her suitcases either - never had to hire an “assistant” to travel.

Comment #46: kristin  on  05/05  at  12:36 AM

Or I should say, phylosopher made a “who needs help traveling, anyway” comment.

Comment #47: kristin  on  05/05  at  12:36 AM

Yes, but phylosopher also said “Jeebus back at you - Europe?  Not a third world country.  Fucking Europe.”  In other words, s/he’s too drunk for oldfeminist to argue with.  Plus, how can one person cut through the ableist bullshit?

And no, you can’t count on help from the airlines.

Comment #48: Josh  on  05/05  at  03:07 AM

Steve @45, phylosopher did ask a “who needs help traveling, anyway” question.

Which would have been quite adequately addressed by ONE reply, directed to phylospher.

Comment #49: Steve LaBonne  on  05/05  at  09:53 AM

Steve LaBonne, I don’t need your permission to respond again when additional bullshit is posted.  You certainly haven’t limited yourself.

Comment #50: oldfeminist  on  05/05  at  06:18 PM

Josh, sweetie, that “ableist comment” was about my truly disabled elderly PARENT who traveled, you asshole.  Posted only to highlight the obvious holes in Rekers story. 

In response you post one anecdotal exception to the comment - not about luggage, but about carry on luggage. Perhaps you’ve imbibed a bit too much to comprehend what you’re reading?
When you sober up, try looking up the requirements of the ADA.  Yes, it may require calling ahead, yes, it may require getting there and boarding early, yes it may require carrying documentation from your doctor if you’re not obviously handicapped - as in a wheelchair user.

ANd before little stalker Kristin and cranky oldfem really get rolling on a jump on phylosopher for a completely off topic monkeypile, like the wannabe bullying children they are, the Europe versus third world comment was simply there to point out that as a rule, the accommodations are known, or knowable and similar to what we have here.  As opposed to unreliable transport, as in makeshift cabs, bad roads, etc. which is more likely in some instances of a third world or developing or non- Western country.  There are actual companies in Europe that specialize in hourly rate travel assistants for the disabled- presumably much cheaper than transatlantic travel for a companion not to push a wheelchair, not to assist with bathing and dressing, but merely to lift some luggage.  The entire point was - Rekers STORY doesn’t hold water.

Comment #51: phylosopher  on  05/06  at  11:47 AM

Josh, sweetie, that “ableist comment” was about my truly disabled elderly PARENT who traveled, you asshole.  Posted only to highlight the obvious holes in Rekers story.
Comment #51: phylosopher on 05/06 at 09:47 AM

The only obvious hole in the story is that he’s supposedly not hiring someone to be a gay companion and yet goes to a gay companion website to find one. 

That doesn’t mean he didn’t want the young man to help him carry luggage, too.  People can be more than just dicks and fuckholes.

Comment #52: oldfeminist  on  05/06  at  07:05 PM

“Little stalker and cranky oldfem.”  You’re really outdoing yourself today!

I’m glad your mother never found herself needing help as a disabled person and not getting it.  That’s not how all disabled people encounter the world.  Go on thinking that you just need to call ahead and “be patient” and maybe carry documentation from your doctor and a copy of ADA guidelines to get the help you need.  Especially if you “don’t look disabled.” 

Funny that you’re posting this just a couple days after blog against disablism day.  It’s almost as if you’re playing devil’s advocate.

Comment #53: oldfeminist  on  05/06  at  07:10 PM
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