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Fire Justin Timberlake

Religion

Everyone was having so much fun with all the um, Christian love, expressed towards PZ Myers, I had to have a part of it.

Though I would never advocate violence towards my fellow man, I won’t cry if some crazy Catholics see this and decide to get their revenge on Timberlake.  I’d also add that it’s a real shame that the Great Cat will be feasting on his innards for the rest of eternity.  I won’t enjoy seeing him punished for his desecration of my god, of course.  I’m not that kind of person.  But just remember: Great Cat.  Innards. 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 04:52 PM • (32) Comments

Why does he hate the discoball :(

Comment #1: Jannet  on  07/28  at  05:04 PM

Awesome.

Comment #2: The Opoponax  on  07/28  at  05:04 PM

I mean, oh.  Um.  What a terrible pity and shame. 

I bow before Teh Great Cat. 

I really do, I promise.

Comment #3: The Opoponax  on  07/28  at  05:05 PM

I’m not real familiar with Mr. Timberlake’s work, except for ‘Dick in a Box.’  That one is pretty good.

Comment #4: Mark B. from Austin TX  on  07/28  at  05:09 PM

Eh, forgot the link:  Dick in a Box

Comment #5: Mark B. from Austin TX  on  07/28  at  05:13 PM

I think a dick counts as an outtard, so at least that’s safe.

Comment #6: MaryL  on  07/28  at  05:55 PM

This is clearly some sort of inside joke.  Not being a fan of Timberlake, disco, cats, or consecrated snacks…

Comment #7: Todd  on  07/28  at  06:00 PM

Every disco ball is sacred!

Comment #8: Quaker in a Basement  on  07/28  at  06:02 PM

Isn’t his time with N’Sync enough to have the Great Cat do some innard munching?

Comment #9: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  07/28  at  06:09 PM

Was that disco ball consecrated with the holy flow of BeeGees, Communards, The Madonna, or the sacraments of house and techno?  Was there measurable XY precipitation?  Was anyone below it compelled to scream “Lobster!” and gyrate wildly from a prostrate position below it during The Litany of the Schneider?

If not, it’s just a shiny orb.

Comment #10: jon  on  07/28  at  06:23 PM

As long as a disco ball is covered in mirrors, it’s blasphemy to desecrate it.  It’s worse if an actual diva has touched it, but still bad if it’s unconsecrated.  The jury’s still out on whether or not Timberlake is a diva, and therefore if he’s consecrating the disco ball as he’s desecrating it.

Comment #11: Amanda Marcotte  on  07/28  at  06:28 PM

PZ Myers has the right to make fun of anyone he wants and, let’s face it, the “cracker theft” is low hanging fruit. It’s right and proper that less crazy people come to his defense… but I’m under no illusions here; crazy fundamentalists are *crazy*, and crazy people do crazy things.

Before I throw sticks at the gorillas in a cage I’m gonna make sure the cage is locked. The last I looked the fundamentalists are loose and among us - Myers shouldn’t be surprised. It’s not as dangerous as insulting the Prophet in Mecca, but it’s in the same family.

Of course, one should be able to “insult” anyone and anything without fear. Too bad that isn’t the way it is.

Comment #12: sfgary  on  07/28  at  06:37 PM

I saw the 1980s Justin last night in Boston. George Michael may not have the high notes any more, but that queen can still sing!

Comment #13: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  07/28  at  06:58 PM

If Timberlake was wearing a white suit, this would be an abomination that would lead to an immediate and deafening howl of outrage similar to that which issued forth when the nonbelievers shut down Studio 54.  When that Temple is restored, the Resurrection of Disco will be complete and the End Times will be near.  I have heard it proclaimed in song that Ivan and G.I. Joe will make a special guest appearance at the festivities.

Comment #14: jon  on  07/28  at  07:29 PM

...now you’ve got me wondering about that big, tasty plate of spaghetti I ate last night.  Heresy?...

Comment #15: MikeEss  on  07/28  at  07:32 PM

If Timberlake was wearing a white suit, this would be an abomination that would lead to an immediate and deafening howl of outrage similar to that which issued forth when the nonbelievers shut down Studio 54.  When that Temple is restored, the Resurrection of Disco will be complete and the End Times will be near.  I have heard it proclaimed in song that Ivan and G.I. Joe will make a special guest appearance at the festivities

Who’s bringing the spoon?

Comment #16: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  07/28  at  07:46 PM

sfgary: That was really the whole point of this affair. Had PZ been mild in his criticism, he wouldn’t have gotten the dangerously asymmetrical response. Had the Catholic league responded to his rudeness (Remember, he didn’t steal a cracker, it was provided to him by a reader) with politeness, I’d say PZ was being a jerk. Had the responses been rude in return, then I would have shrugged and though “Well, what do you expect”.

The attempt to get him fired and the death threats seriously crossed a line, and illustrates the dangerous nature of the Catholic League, and the Catholic Church’s official silence regarding their activities on their behalf. The demands that he desecrate a Koran (Which he did, along with a copy of “The God Delusion”) gives a good example of the triumphalism and bigotry of a number of this group.

By comparison, the complete lack of response from the Muslim community is… refreshing on many levels.

I’m not one for being rude for the sake of being rude, but in this instance, it was illuminating. Actually makes me appreciate the Chocolate Jesus artist all the more.

Comment #17: Left_Wing_Fox  on  07/28  at  08:21 PM

desecrate a Koran…  By comparison, the complete lack of response from the Muslim community is… refreshing on many levels.

Well, there’s a potential hitch—was it a Quran in English?  Because that doesn’t technically count.

Comment #18: The Opoponax  on  07/28  at  08:30 PM

Oh, I don’t think religious nuts looking to be offended care about technicalities like that.

Comment #19: Amanda Marcotte  on  07/28  at  08:32 PM

Muslims do.  A Quran in English is no more sacred than the phone book.  That’s kind of the nice thing about Muslims—they make a certain degree of sense.  Even the nuttiest ones have a sense of internal logic that makes any fundamentalist Christian look like a raving schizo (well, like even more of a raving schizo).

Comment #20: The Opoponax  on  07/28  at  08:43 PM

Yeah, but if you want to play Dungeons and Dragons, you could also say an unconsecrated cracker doesn’t count, and this one wasn’t consecrated.  In fact, some tried.  But really, the need to cry and howl overruled mere D&D;technicalities.  This was about pretending to be an oppressed minority.  American Muslims, a bona fide oppressed minority, have no need to play this game, and so they didn’t.

Comment #21: Amanda Marcotte  on  07/28  at  08:49 PM

American Muslims, a bona fide oppressed minority, have no need to play this game, and so they didn’t.

Which probably gets to the heart of why Muslims, worldwide, are able to stay pretty internally consistent with their fundamentalism and what’ll bring them over the edge.  They have way too much at stake and too many other fish to fry to get bent out of shape about something so unworthy of their time.

That and I really want to believe that Muslims on the whole just plain know more about their own religious beliefs than Christians tend to.  I’m not sure it’s true, but I sure want it to be…

Comment #22: The Opoponax  on  07/28  at  08:59 PM

That and I really want to believe that Muslims on the whole just plain know more about their own religious beliefs than Christians tend to.  I’m not sure it’s true, but I sure want it to be…

When you’re committed to praying 5 times a day, alone, rather than once a week in a community, I’d imagine you’re more likely to care about why you’re doing it.

Comment #23: pepito  on  07/28  at  10:00 PM

I’m king of enjoying South Park tonight. The first episode was about all the kids being terrified of Hell, so they need to get baptized, confess their sins, and eat a cracker to avoid it. The next episode, playing now, is about Bill Donohue and the Hare Club for Men.  Not bad to have on while doing some housecleaning.

Comment #24: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  07/28  at  11:13 PM

Alright, this was brilliant.

Comment #25: Bruce  on  07/29  at  12:53 AM

And Amanda, please make your next book the Holy Scripture of Discoballtarianism.  Ideally, if it has pocket parts like law books, you could make a killing off of the residuals.  Religion was the first and best product endorser; George Lucas did nothing with Star Wars’ licensing that the medieval Popes had not done more effectively.  I mean, the kickbacks from the little mirror manufacturers alone!  Think marble.  Think Zurich.

Then get your friends to donate to the Discoball League for Civil Rights, wherein you could raise unholy hell whenever someone speaks ill of Donna Summer or throws a set of rollerskates into the trash.  Then come the franchises - Ecumenical Matriarch-Diva, Archroller, etc.

I mean, does a woman need cash, come back?

Comment #26: Crablaw  on  07/29  at  01:04 AM

Opoponox: Have you been in a coma for the last fifteen years or so?  While American Muslims have responded to repeated provocations with admirable restraint, some sectors of the Muslim world have not.  American Catholics have a long way to go to compete in the overreaction department.

Comment #27: Walt  on  07/29  at  01:52 AM

Mummy, why is the bad man wearing clown shoes?

Comment #28: Akheloios  on  07/29  at  06:56 AM

Akheloios, those aren’t clown shoes.  Justin Timberlake is a Leningrad Cowboy.

Comment #29: jon  on  07/29  at  09:17 AM

I’d also add that it’s a real shame that the Great Cat will be feasting on his innards for the rest of eternity.

I don’t know about “The Great Cat” but I could easily imagine The Great Kat eating someone’s innards.

Comment #30: "Fair and Balanced" Dave  on  07/29  at  10:06 AM

The Danish cartoon incident, while different on a number of levels, shows that being a Muslim is not inoculation against trumping up outrage in order to solidify the power of conservative forces within a religion.  Without denying that the paper in question had bona fide racist motivations—-much different from PZ, who is protesting all religion, period—-the fact of the matter is that the people who started passing the packet around put phony cartoons in it in order to bolster the outrage.  This conversation is veering on parody of what the wingnuts are suggesting liberals are like, pretending that Islam is somehow this superior religion to Christianity because it’s exotic and believers are oppressed. 

And that’s what religions do when they have believers that are oppressed—-they channel that rage to reaffirm their own power.  Look at Catholicism in Ireland for a classic example.  There’s no doubt that Catholics in Ireland have historically been oppressed.  That’s no excuse for the way the Catholic Church stomped all over believers, with practices such as committing unwed mothers to slavery.

Comment #31: Amanda Marcotte  on  07/29  at  10:08 AM

That and I really want to believe that Muslims on the whole just plain know more about their own religious beliefs than Christians tend to.

There’s no reason to think that. Many of them know little more than “don’t eat pork or drink beer, and say these words this way this many times a day.” A lot of them even think they aren’t allowed to marry Christians or Jews.

Comment #32: junk science  on  07/30  at  02:39 PM
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