So, um, doesn’t the existence of a Mrs. Claus “sexualize” Santa already? I mean, it paints him as straight, and married, and therefore probably having sex with at least one person. It’s not like Santa has ever been some sort of virginal, pure figure. o.O

I thought Santa was just a distraction from Jesus, anyway. At least that’s what I gathered from those church pamphlets about how it’s not a coincidence that Santa is an anagram of Satan.

true,

“Yawn. The fundies are breathtaking—they just throw caution to the wind and toss batsh*ttery so extreme out there, that only pushes the GOP further into the margins. Keep it coming, folks.”

but i’m guessing it will also keep contributions rolling on in, which is pretty much the whole point of this stuff.

Yeah, Santa is married, so he’s already done been sexualized.

Oh wait, I forgot.  Straight people having relationships and being married and walking around holding hands is “normal”.  Gay people doing the same is “shoving sexuality down our throats”.  Silly me.

I always thought Krampus was the official pervert of Christmas and Santa was the innocuous-seeming gateway to Pagan sacrilege.

Saint Nicolas the saint that “Santa” is based on in theory is a Catholic saint and thus can’t be entrusted to any protestants so why are they even worried about it?  Santa isn’t for them! 

As a whole, wasn’t this show done before?  It sound familiar….is it brand new for this year?  Either way it is a show done for a homosexually friendly audience as a farce for the people in attendance.  I somehow doubt these people are going to record the production then mail it to unsuspecting schools every Christmas for it to be shown.  I mean it doesn’t have the merit of hearing a speech by the president about going to school…oh wait..never mind. 

Anything for a rise.  The internet is a vast playground where any idiot can make a mountain out of a mole hill.  Strike that, make a mountain out of a deep ravine with no bottom in sight.

Pictures on a Web site promoting the production depict Santa in not-so-subtle sexually suggestive situations

Where? The only picture is the one reproduced in Amanda’s post. Or do they need to imagine pictures in order to get offended?

How have they never heard of “Sexy Santa” anyway?

Oops, sorry Pam.

sexualizes the longtime, child-revered icon of Santa Claus.

LOL. Up until the middle of the Victorian era, when the modern Santa started to emerge thanks to Thomas Nash, Clement Clarke Moore, et al., xmas was a time of debauchery and carousing. There’s a reason “Santa Claus” is a metaphor for sexual prowess in early blues songs.

Then again, expect fundietards to know history? Might as well expect them to know their Wholly Babble.

The only image I can recall from picking up a Pl*yboy magazine in the bathroom at a parent’s friends house as a child was of a cartoon of Santa having sex with the lady of the house to which he was delivering presents.  It was pretty sexualized sex.  I wonder if Focus had any problem with that.

Site of the Day: Sketchy Santas.

More here.

Whenever the first young woman put on a “Santa’s Helper” elf costume that didn’t include leotards and did include bare arms, that’s when “Santa”  became sexualized.

For the love of…um…anything, don’t tell them about the Sexy Santa for Adults Only here in Addison TX, the heartland of Amurka!

http://cbs11tv.com/local/sext.santaland.addison.2.1346541.html

The only image I can recall from picking up a Pl*yboy magazine in the bathroom at a parent’s friends house as a child was of a cartoon of Santa having sex with the lady of the house to which he was delivering presents.  It was pretty sexualized sex.  I wonder if Focus had any problem with that.

There’s also the famous PB mag cartoon of elves inserting Santa’s wang into a woman’s wah-wah. 

And this:

Oh wait, I forgot.  Straight people having relationships and being married and walking around holding hands is “normal”.  Gay people doing the same is “shoving sexuality down our throats”.

(‘Cause it needs to be shouted from every rooftop until they get it.)

I always thought “straight” Santa was creepy. I always felt a little awkward as a little girl, sitting on a strange man’s lap. Then, on Christmas Eve (when I was still quite young and believed in Santa) while I certainly enjoyed the whole surprise of Santa gifts, I had this undercurrent of fear that Santa would come into my bedroom and watch me sleep - this STRANGE MAN!! I also feared waking up and finding Santa in my living room and that he’d be angry at me and hurt me.

Wow, I think I need to take this to psychoanalysis.

Well, let’s think about this…
Santa + wife = non-sexual
Santa + husband = sexual
I’m pretty sure the implicit assumption here is that heterosexual marriages are devoid of sex.  I kind of feel sorry for these people.  At least I would, if they weren’t so hateful.

To add to what others have already noted, Santa & Mrs. Claus are okay because they’re old and grey and no one over, say 21, ever has sex in Fundietopolis, especially married people. Especially old, married people. Therefore, not sexualized. However, every good fundie knows that gay folk do nothing but have sex with anything that moves, no matter how old they are. Therefore, sexualized.

Like ladybronwyn said, I’d feel sorry for these assholes and their miserable little lives if they weren’t such obnoxious assholes.

The song “Santa Baby” also sexifies the red-suited one.

actually, religious fundies are such low-hanging fruit, usually not too bright and easily annoyed. i try to have fun with them, in such a way that they’re hard pressed to legitimately claim i’m being abusive, without looking like complete tools, even to their fellow fundies.

hey, everyone needs a hobby!

“I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa”

Aren’t these the same people who are suspicious of Christmas itself because the holiday has some pagan roots?

Here’s a fun little aside for them:

Jeremiah 10:3-5 (KJV)

For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

(The fundies should consider that the next time they buy a Christmas tree.)

And for those who don’t hate Christmas, they still tend to hate the commercialization of the holiday as represented by Santa Claus. When it suits them, however, then Santa is sacrosanct.

If you don’t want your kids to see gay Santa, then don’t take them to the play.

This is another incidence of that same annoying idea - that nothing whatsoever is supposed to happen that isn’t suitable for children, even if appropriate measures are taken to keep them from seeing it.

Heck, even if this involved full-on nudity and simulated on-stage sex scenes it isn’t an issue if nobody goes to it without warning.

It really grates on me that “knowing that somebody else is doing it, even in private or out of sight” constitutes an attack for these people, and some sort of violation of THEIR religions freedom.

If we ever get a working consensus that adults are allowed to do whatever they want as long as there is informed consent, THEN we can start having meaningful conversations about what warnings are needed and what needs to be restricted from the kiddies.

But this is stupid - their objection seems to be that a group of adults who want to help children aren’t allowed to engage in grown-up recreations once the kiddies are put to bed. Bah.

Aside from the other problems with this, does GLSEN indeed specifically say they want to protect kids? I’m sure individuals associated with GLSEN would on the whole prefer children not be harmed, but is that part of the organizational mission?

If so, I suspect a) they don’t mean “protect kids from Teh Ghey” because b) they mean those kids for whom that ship’s already pretty much sailed. Focus has come out in favor of homophobic bullying, if memory serves, so they actually don’t like protecting children.

had this undercurrent of fear that Santa would come into my bedroom and watch me sleep - this STRANGE MAN!! . . .

Wow, I think I need to take this to psychoanalysis.

Don’t worry, just so he doesn’t sparkle.

Santa + wife = non-sexual
Santa + husband = sexual
I’m pretty sure the implicit assumption here is that heterosexual marriages are devoid of sex.  I kind of feel sorry for these people.  At least I would, if they weren’t so hateful.

I thought the same thing. In a little kid’s mind, Santa doesn’t fuck any more than parents do, and parents are married. A straight married couple just signals “Mom and Dad,” which is about as asexual as you can get.

My point being that fundies don’t mature emotionally past age 6 or so.

Help!  For years, I’ve been stalked by this nasty old hairy guy, who watches me whatever I do.  He knows when I’ve been sleeping, he knows when I’m awake . . . He even watches when I don me now my gay apparel!

“I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa [Claus]”

BadKitty FTW.

The whole plot of the movie “The Santa Clause 2” is about Santa (played by Tim Allen) pursuing a sexual relationship with his son’s teacher (or is she the principal of his son’s school?  I forget, but she works at his kid’s school).  There is definitely kissing, and there may even be implied sex.  And this movie is marketed to children!  It’s shown on pre-watershed TV!  Someone should alert the Fundies—I’m sure they will be just as outraged about this as they are about the play.

Gepetto? But doesn’t Santa know he’s the adversary? Also, I got an instant flashback to Bad Santa when I was reading this article. Surely any icon which has such a universally strong association during childhood is bound to be sexualised to some extent during adulthood including, yes, Jesus for some. Shock horror.

And just how is it the Clauses didn’t have any kids all these centuries? Who knew elves invented latex.

My 9 tends to get the words mixed up and sing “I saw Daddy kissing Santa Claus.” Her choir teacher had a nice LONG talk with me…and was horrified that I laughed clear through it.

The gays have sexualized Santa? Oh horrors! Pearl-clutch!

Do I even want to know what rock these people have been lurking under to have missed the lingeire? Or the shirtless Texas Santa? or all the Christmas smut that appears on romance shelves?
(including my own:
“And what to my wondering eyes should appear,
but a souped up Harley sleigh and eight twinky reindeer.” The rest is unsuitable for a family—or even for this—blog)

@A. it’s the son’s principal. And they get married, by Mother Nature herself (pagan! Female minister! Augh!)

I saw the Captain kissing Santa Claus
Down below the bulkhead late last night…
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
—A Pirate Christmas, Tom Smith

I’m sure individuals associated with GLSEN would on the whole prefer children not be harmed, but is that part of the organizational mission?

Google is your friend. A search for GLSN turns up their website as the top hit, with their Mission Statement as one selection. Please read the whole thing. Short answer, yes, protecting kids IS their mission.

From the GLSN webpage:
<blockquote.OUR MISSION
The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network strives to assure that each member of every school community is valued and respected regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression.

We believe that such an atmosphere engenders a positive sense of self, which is the basis of educational achievement and personal growth. Since homophobia and heterosexism undermine a healthy school climate, we work to educate teachers, students and the public at large about the damaging effects these forces have on youth and adults alike. We recognize that forces such as racism and sexism have similarly adverse impacts on communities and we support schools in seeking to redress all such inequities.</blockquote>

Darn formatting!

Aren’t these the same people who are suspicious of Christmas itself because the holiday has some pagan roots?

Well, all Christian holidays are just take-overs of existing, non-Christian holidays.  A few hundred years BC, when Christian countries took over non-Christian ones through war, they came up with a successful strategy of letting the people practice what they’ve always practiced, but then tying a Christian meaning to it.  It worked extremely well with Christmas and Easter, and “Easter” is even based off of a name of a (non-Christian) goddess.  They’ve had mixed success with Halloween (All Saint’s Day is popular in some countries), and they’re trying to do it with Thanksgiving here in the United States.  Nearly all the “traditional” parts of both Christmas and Easter had nothing to do with Christianity when they were first used.

Right, Lymis, I actually suspected as much. They mean protecting gay kids from harassment. Is Focus pretending for marketing purposes that they think GLSEN means “protecting” kids from knowing about homosexuality, or is Focus really that dense?

Is Focus pretending for marketing purposes that they think GLSEN means “protecting” kids from knowing about homosexuality, or is Focus really that dense?

Personally, I don’t think anyone could be that dense, and Focus would never, ever actually believe it had GLSEN’s agreement on what children need protection from. But it’s a fascinating “stupid or just pretending to be?” question you could go back and forth on without a satisfying answer.

Focus believes GLSEN is a recruiting network designed to turn all kids gay so that aging vampiric ho-mo-sex-you-alls can drain their life force and precious bodily fluids to recapture their own youth and vitality…

At least that’s what I remember them saying. There was definitely a gay=vampire statement issued.