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Is nothing sacred?!

This post at Jezebel excited my interest, because I had a pre-existing interest in the difference between what people eat with others around, and what they eat when they eat alone.  So I listened to this short interview at NPR with Deborah Madison and Patrick McFarlin, the authors of What We Eat When We Eat Alone.  I was looking forward to a few minutes of chuckling good times talking about people who just pour soy sauce on rice and eat that directly, some weirder sandwich attempts, or foods consumed straight out of a can.

But you cannot escape the cold hand of sexism, particularly of the WTF variety.  And this short interview was no exception.  Even in the world of people eating weird shit just because they’re alone, people have to insist that there’s dramatic gender differences that are almost certainly not there.  The authors insist that men and women have drastically different habits when they eat alone, namely that women dice things delicately and men slam things into frying pans, making that food their bitch. 

And I was like, really?  Because where I come from, that sounds like you’re saying that women chop when they cook and men use frying pans.  In my world, these are not only not mutually exclusive behaviors, but they tend to come together.  In that you apply knives to food before and occasionally after you apply heat to food.  I can’t really think of a better example of selection bias than seeing someone move food from fridge to cutting board to frying pan and thinking that there’s huge differences, because you noticed the part where the ladies slice and the part where the men cook.  But I rest assure you, both genders apply knives to food and apply food to pans when cooking.  Slamming and delicacy are subjective descriptors, obviously, and if you’re looking for ladies to do something delicately and men to do something aggressively, you’re going to see it, even if they behave exactly the same objectively.

They did not discuss whether or not women masticate while men chew, but I’m sure if we had more time, we’d hear about that.*

I can usually handle gratuitous sexism, because it’s absolutely everywhere.  But this one took me by surprise, I think in part because being alone actually reduces the pressure to “perform” gender, and so actually you’ll see fewer gender differences.  I expected comical stories particularly about how women, if there aren’t people to perform womanhood for, tend to act less than ladylike in private, farting openly and eating straight out of a can.  God knows that when I lived by myself, one of my favorite things to do when I came home from work was open a can of diced tomatoes and eat that directly off saltines with some cream cheese, and call that dinner.  Add a glass of wine and you have all four food groups, right?  But what I didn’t account for in my assumptions was that the possibility that gender masks slip when we’re alone could provoke anxiety, particularly with anyone who is invested in believing that gender differences in subjective categories like delicacy and aggression are innate and not performative. 

And I really think that’s what it was, because the interviewees talked about non-observed and non-measurable aspects like dicing and frying and the relative delicacy and aggression employed.  It would be more substantive and likely that men and women have differently gendered food that they indulge on their own a lot more often—-maybe men eat meat more than women when alone, or women are more likely to drink a glass of wine while men have a bottle of beer.  Certain gender performances become so ingrained that we take them on as actual preferences, and the same thing with certain fears, and I have no doubt that many men would never just pour a glass of wine to drink even while eating a can of cold baked beans, because that behavior is coded as so very feminine in our culture that they fear it even if no one’s watching them. 

I honestly suspect that the book isn’t irritating, to be completely fair.  I just think the interview got all weird for that moment, and it was hard to really make sense of or recover from the statement that women delicately dice while men slam food around.  I’m still interested in the book, because I suspect it has a lot of funny stuff that we didn’t get in the interview.  Not about dreary and unlikely gender differences, but the opposite—-stories about how quirky and individual people’s tastes are when they’re eating for one.  That some people could live on raisin bran or PB&J sandwiches and others actually prepare little dishes for themselves may not say that much about gender but may say a lot about who we are as individuals.

*Cue wingnuts complaining that I don’t think men and women have any differences.  Of course they do, and I have a cabinet full of tampons to attest to the fact that I “believe” in these differences.  I just object to the silly idea that every single goddamn fucking thing we do is so different that we may as well not be considered the same species, much less be expected to get along or, gasp, be considered equals.  We both chew and swallow our food.  But I wouldn’t be shocked to hear someone investigating if men and women chew and swallow differently, explaining that god/evolution did this so that women could chew and swallow in a way more suitable to a demure life of home-based servitude. 

 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 05:33 PM • (115) Comments

Surely men just swallow things whole, don’t they?

Comment #1: Nephele  on  07/07  at  05:43 PM

Ahh don’t feel bad. I was watching TV with my GF last night, she likes “How I Met Your Mother” for some bizarre ass reason. After about 10 minutes I wanted to walk onto the TV and punch out the Doogie Howser Pimp guy. Media can affect you on a personal level, that’s why it sucks.

Comment #2: atheist  on  07/07  at  05:47 PM

Well, this broad-shouldered, pot-bellied, 6th-generation-Texan straight male just loves a nice dry rosé with his whatever-on-a-tortilla.  (but then, I’m in the trade)

Comment #3: Oriscus  on  07/07  at  05:47 PM

I will fully admit to being a slob when I eat by myself and I possess a vagina. I’ll eat on my futon and if something falls off the plate (or, it just so happens it escapes my mouth) then I have no gumption about picking it up and eating it and continuing on my merry way. I also throw things on the skillet AND chop (I do enjoy making my own “Greek” salad) so I must be some terrible gender hybrid.

Comment #4: UltraMagnus  on  07/07  at  05:56 PM

Fucking hell.  Even within the context of one living being, mileage varies. Some nights alone I’ll make salad nicoise with home-made croutons, herbs from the garden, boiled egg, etc etc, laid out on nicely cleaned assortment of lettuces and drizzled with lemon oregano dressing; other nights I’ll “slam” out a box of freaking KD because I just have a twice-a-year hankering for the junk.  There’s no set pattern.

These sort of taxonomical gymnastics are are about as reliable as prognostication, and the older I get, the less patience I have for them.  (Smell the onion on my belt?)

Comment #5: Ranylt  on  07/07  at  05:59 PM

No slamming anything into a pan in which I’m about to fry. I have an aversion to getting boiling oil on my skin.

Next time I make fagiolla ala tuscani I’ll just rend the carrots, celery and onions with my bare hands before flinging them into the dutch oven and screaming “mirepoix motherfucker!”

Comment #6: Sarcastro  on  07/07  at  06:00 PM

As a fan of How I Met Your Mother, I can only say that Neil Patrick Harris’s character is a heavy parody of that type, even though every ad for the show makes it seem like he’s the cool guy - and probably, that’s what a lot of watchers think.

But really, he’s just playing this character in straight drag, who is, fundamentally, really sad.  You gotta start from there.

But anyway, as to the book and the authors - is there any particular reason to think that people don’t largely lie to the interviewers, playing up their gender roles.  What better chance to prove you’re a Culturally Accepted Gender Role Player than by announcing that you act that way even when nobody is watching?

Comment #7: Billingham  on  07/07  at  06:01 PM

Next time I make fagiolla ala tuscani I’ll just rend the carrots, celery and onions with my bare hands before flinging them into the dutch oven and screaming “mirepoix motherfucker!”

This is the best idea I’ve ever heard.

Comment #8: Billingham  on  07/07  at  06:02 PM

Yep, I ate alone last night.  I “slammed” some duck into the wok and fried it.  (Sunday, I boiled it, deboned it, and steamed it…  and fried the other half, it is boneless pressed duck served with oyster sauce.)  Saurday night, I also “slammed” some chicken into the wok to fry it.  After blanching it, after cutting it, and cutting bamboo, water chestnuts, scallions, shrimp, and mushrooms…  And after that, I wrapped it and fried it again to make spring rolls.

Tonight, leftover spring rolls and fried rice (also home made.)

I’m such a savage.

Comment #9: James  on  07/07  at  06:02 PM

That pic is making me crave sloppy Joes now.

Comment #10: pablo  on  07/07  at  06:03 PM

I’m just surprised that people <em>cook>/em> when they’re alone, period.  One of my greatest pleasures when living on my own was the freedom to microwave a veggie dog, put it on a paper towel, and dunk it into the bottle of mustard.  No dishes, no prep time, and it’s satisfyingly gross. That’s something I actively miss from living on my own, not having to eat like a “normal person.” To be fair, I think my partner misses it too; we both ate weirder, more convenient crappy-but-satisfying food when we were on our own, but together, the times when each of us wants to be a degenerate kind of cancel out, and we’re left eating more normal “meals.”

Comment #11: t-ster  on  07/07  at  06:04 PM

i need to work on my html tags. also…how do you make that box around other people’s quotes?

Comment #12: t-ster  on  07/07  at  06:08 PM

I’m sure Evolutionary Psychology has evidence of just how and why men’s and women’s solitary eating habits are drastically different, almost like we’re different species.

Then again, EvoPsych, as has been pointed out many times around here, is a wonderful “science” that helps you find exactly what you expected to find…

Comment #13: MikeEss  on  07/07  at  06:10 PM

Silly Amanda, no man could own up to doing Wimmins work, like chopping - holding the knife might make their wrists go limp, after all.

No, no, if you can’t swallow it whole, y’aint a Real Man. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me that it has to be raw as well, unless its BBQ, cooking being more wimmins work really.

Is it just me, or is there actually more overt sexism drenching everything, than there was 10 years ago?

Comment #14: firefall  on  07/07  at  06:10 PM

When the spouse is away for the week, as he often is, I eat really well. The problem is that I make a huge pot of something on Monday and just eat the same thing every night. Often standing directly over the sink. Eating from the pan in which I’ve reheated a single portion.

Comment #15: Bella  on  07/07  at  06:17 PM

What kind of motherfucking deranged moron thinks that dicing is “delicate”!?!? You’re taking a fucking living thing and using a very sharp knife to divide it into hundreds of completely separate little pieces. That sounds more “violent” than “delicate” to me.

Comment #16: PhysioProf  on  07/07  at  06:21 PM

my alone food: tater tots w/sriracha and a glass of chianti

my wife tends to have just a bowl of cereal, she tells me

“Is it just me, or is there actually more overt sexism drenching everything, than there was 10 years ago?”

Hell yes. It’s enough a drive a person bugfuck.

Comment #17: wapsie  on  07/07  at  06:22 PM

When I’m alone I make a point of eating everything that might otherwise cause a raised eyebrow.  Chopping is manly but only if a karate yell is included.

Comment #18: Magis  on  07/07  at  06:22 PM

Sarcastro, you’re welcome at dinner at my house any time.

My alone food is spaghetti.  I might have eaten it 4 times in 6 days while my husband was out of town last week.  (I went out twice).

Comment #19: FashionablyEvil  on  07/07  at  06:30 PM

I suppose G. would count as a manly man who slams things around since he likes to make pizza dough and Irish soda bread from scratch.  We actually ended up complementing each other really well because he’s a desserts guy and I’m a main dish gal.

Some annoying sexism did raise its head when he took the same cake he’s made for this same office for the past 15 years to their last potluck and had people tell him, “Be sure to thank your wife for making the cake.”  WTF?  Why would anyone think that I would suddenly start making the exact same cake that he’s been making for them since before the two of us even met?  I guess I missed the part on the marriage license that says I was supposed to take over all baking duties once the ring was on my finger.

Comment #20: Mnemosyne  on  07/07  at  06:31 PM

Let’s face it.

Unless you killed some beast yourself, and then drank its still-warm blood while cutting it up into bitesize chunks, whatever a modern human does to get sustenance is pretty wimpy in comparison.  Contrasting “delicate” “girly” dicing and “manly” “slamming things into frying pans” is just ridiculous.

But I guess it can’t all be MJ 24/7…

Comment #21: MikeEss  on  07/07  at  06:33 PM

What’s wrong with soy sauce on rice? That’s like, every plate lunch ever. Anyway, the thing I’ll do alone is marinate steak and eat it completely raw. Tends to put people off, unless they’re,like, vampires or something.

Comment #22: Mark Temporis  on  07/07  at  06:37 PM

Some of the alone food stories brought a smile to my face this afternoon!
When my husband is out of town usually the first thing I do is order take out (he is a health nut, and likes to make his own food- me too!- but sometimes I just want something horribly unhealthy brought right to my door).
Day two or so I’ll start eating couscous with veggies. It never seems to get old. And I might buy cans of beer (rather than wine or bottled beer) and rent tv shows (we don’t do tv at home). So basically I indulge in all of my guilty pleasures at one.
And tater tots and sriracha sounds sooo good right now. yum!

Comment #23: yazikus  on  07/07  at  06:46 PM

i need to work on my html tags. also…how do you make that box around other people’s quotes?

I’ve tried to show this in HTML before, and failed, but basically you do the following: you surround it with blockquote tags.

You have a starting blockquote tag, your text, ending blockquote tag. Dig?

This is a starting tag <tag>. This is an ending tag </tag>.

Where I have tag, you put blockquote.

Try it and hit preview, see if you have the box around your text.

Comment #24: atheist  on  07/07  at  06:50 PM

My alone food is spaghetti.  I might have eaten it 4 times in 6 days while my husband was out of town last week.  (I went out twice).


Yeah, I think spaghetti is an awesome runner-up alone food. 
Also, thanks atheist, for the html info.

Comment #25: t-ster  on  07/07  at  06:53 PM

I like to play Iron Chef-Battle Hot Dog! I once made some sort of mutant carbonara sauce with Hunter Beef Franks. That and what my dad used to call “white trash casserole” when I was growing up - mac and cheese with proteins, veggies, extra butter and hot sauce.

That and drinking store-brand vodka mixed with Kool-Aid.

Comment #26: Matty  on  07/07  at  06:56 PM

I’m with t-ster.  I thought the sexism was going to be in the form of women secretly binging on chocolate ice cream while watching Meg Ryan movies.  The idea of either dicing or frying pans never entered my head when thinking about eating alone.  And I live alone, so that might tell you something about me.  I might roughly cut up some veggies into manageable pieces.  But any recipe involving chopping I won’t even give a second glance at.

Comment #27: jackieg  on  07/07  at  06:56 PM

I’ve tried to show this in HTML before, and failed, but basically you do the following: you surround it with blockquote tags.

You have a starting blockquote tag, your text, ending blockquote tag. Dig?

Like this:

<blockquote>I’ve tried to show this in HTML before, and failed, but basically you do the following: you surround it with blockquote tags.

You have a starting blockquote tag, your text, ending blockquote tag. Dig? </blockquote>

Many many years ago (1994) I wrote <u>The HTML Reference Card</u>.  The publisher expected sales on the order of 1000 copies in 2 years.  They got an order of 2500 in the first week…  That’s when I knew this web-thing was going to be big.

Comment #28: James  on  07/07  at  07:01 PM

Note for those who have noticed increased sexism in the last ten years.  It’s the Bush Backlash (just like the Reagan years) and thank god, Susan Faludi has written a book about this one as well—The Terror Dream: Myth and Misogyny in an Insecure America.

At home?  Alone?  Time for fried spam sandwiches, without my husband around to make gagging noises at the whole idea of spam.  I, like Sarcastro, place the spam gently into the pan, as I also hate being spattered with frying butter.

Comment #29: Siobhan  on  07/07  at  07:01 PM

My alone food usually involves meat, since my S/O is vegetarian and we usually cook together. So yeah, I guess I “slam” bacon into a pan, which I then eat as a sandwich with spinach and (delicately sliced) tomatoes on homemade bread (with seeds in it). Real manly. I also do Tuna Cheese Melts on the aforementioned bread a lot, or occasionally just a cheese and salsa sandwich if I’m feeling lazy.

Comment #30: HonestB  on  07/07  at  07:02 PM

I guess, the irony is that I was taught when I was growing up that being able to cook well would be a plus when it came to dating…  I didn’t learn to cook for that reason, since I started learning back when I thought all girls had cooties…  But I’ve found it was as much a negative as a positive.  Things would be going OK, and I’d arrange to cook dinner…  And more often than not, my potential SO would be intimidated.  Next to the first date, the dinner date was the most likely last date…  Enough that, should I ever date again, cooking dinner is not something I would do.

Comment #31: James  on  07/07  at  07:07 PM

I do all the cooking.  I think the only thing different about my alone food is that there are things I like that my wife doesn’t, so when she’s out of town I try to indulge in those things I never make because she doesn’t like them.  And I might make only the main course, and not bother with sides.

I wonder to what extent the gender differences the report talked about reflect the difference between (1) someone not accustomed to cooking having to cook for themselves, and (2) the difference between cooking for a lot of people and only cooking for yourself.

On the thing about wine, I think guys who drink wine don’t consider pouring a glass of wine feminine.

Comment #32: Wallace  on  07/07  at  07:11 PM

I mix honey with peanut butter and eat it straight up from a bowl. Or I like berries.

I admit I’m weird.

Comment #33: atheist  on  07/07  at  07:12 PM

Yeah, given that every single-serving dessert since about 1982 (I found it in a book!) has been advertised as Special Alone Time for Sensual Women Who Know What They Like and Just Want to Indulge Themselves Blah Blah Blah Sex Metaphors I was really expecting the sexism to come from a completely different direction. I do sometimes cut carrots into funny shapes when I pack my lunch? Does that count?

My favorite thing to eat when I’m by myself is toast. Toast, toast, toast, with butter and honey. I think this is the reason that I’m a bread snob, because nothing’s worse than biting into lovely solitary blog-reading toast and getting a mouth full of spongey acrid bleh.

Comment #34: purpleshoes  on  07/07  at  07:14 PM

I’m just surprised that people <em>cook>/em> when they’re alone, period.

I’m with t-ster.  I fry it or boil it quickly, stick it in a microwave or eat it from the packet, but don’t bother with the cooking stuff.  Ensure there’s plenty of fresh veges, a bit of protein, and I’m happy. When you’re by yourself, why bother wasting time on it?

But I do chop the veges.  I dunno whether that makes me a woman or a man, but I do know I’m a slob.

Comment #35: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  07/07  at  07:23 PM

Whole tomatoes, eaten like apples (no dainty dicing here). I’ve been known to go through an entire bag of tomatoes as a snack.
Also, ramen noodles (no seasoning) + shredded cheese + basil = delicious

In general, the food needs to have a total prep time of less than 5 minutes (raw fruits/veggies are good). The most complex thing I probably ever cook for myself is mashed potatoes, and I almost never cook meat , even though meals with others almost always include meat.

Comment #36: jalmondale  on  07/07  at  07:26 PM

Before the kid, when I was home alone, I ate hummus on pita and other straight-from-the-fridge type things.  And I didn’t chop my veggies more than was required to eat them easily.  Sometimes I would make things that required melting cheese.

My husband would eat microwave meals (ick) when home alone.

Nowadays, with the kid, we both tend to cook reasonable full dinner even when it’s just one of us and the kid.

Comment #37: hp  on  07/07  at  07:27 PM

t-ster—

you did the html right, but for some reason you have to put a paragraph in between your closing tag and your next paragraph, or the text gets really tiny on Pandagon.


James, are you freaking rich? 

As for eating alone…haven’t done that in years.  Campbell’s tomato soup, half water, half milk.  If I’m feeling fancy, I’ll toss some basil and rice in it, but plain is good.  Maybe toss some of the kids’ goldfish in it.  I used to take spaghetti sauce and mix in tons of veggies and random spices, but now I’ll just slop it on a bagel, toss on some cheese, add a little oregano (THE pizza spice) toss in the toaster oven and call it pizza.

Comment #38: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  07/07  at  07:28 PM

Ye gods james, I am sorry about that.  A man or woman cooks me dinner, I’m going to jump them before the dishes are off the table.

Comment #39: lonespark  on  07/07  at  07:35 PM

I enjoy cooking, but I almost never do it for just myself.  It’s not like I have anything better to do, I guess—it just seems like too much effort to expend on just me.

The other day, in reference my sister’s dinner after work and knowing that I’m the kind of poor person who would buy the stuff, my mother informed me that no one should eat box macaroni and cheese and that it should be used exclusively for fattening cattle.  Now I buy the 50-cent generic boxes and eat them while Photoshopping cocks onto pictures of my mom.

Otherwise, I microwave chicken noodle soup, daintily, with sparkles.

Comment #40: themmases  on  07/07  at  07:40 PM

I never get to eat alone these days, either, but dinner without dad (which is most nights, cuz he works Evil 12-hr graveyard shifts) is often corndogs-on-sticks.

Alone it was either no-prep stuff like hummus-with-shredded pita chunks, or stuff my husband hates.  This includes green vegetables and Indian food. 

Based on my upbringing the main thing I am likely to eat when no one is watching is an entire apple pie.  Bogarting the fruits of my grandmother’s labor like a deliciously bad liberal.

Comment #41: lonespark  on  07/07  at  07:40 PM

<blockquote>Something in box
</blockquote>
Comes out like:

Something in box

Perhaps at the bottom of the page you could include the working html in code tags, so we’d know?

Comment #42: Crissa  on  07/07  at  07:40 PM

I like cooking so I cook when I’m alone.  I lived by myself for a time, and have for much of my adult life lived with people who aren’t home for dinner a lot, so either it’s cook for yourself or not at all.  I like it, because you don’t have to worry if someone else likes it, and if you fail miserably, there’s no witnesses, and so you have more room to experiment.  When Marc goes out of town, I cook a bunch of stuff with mushrooms in it, since he doesn’t like mushrooms.

Comment #43: Amanda Marcotte  on  07/07  at  07:44 PM

I have never delicately diced anything in my life.  My husband has informed me that I’m a terrible sous chef, and need to quit bludgeoning his vegetables. 

Left to my own devices I will happily live out of cans and the freezer.  My saving grace in grad school was a friend who worked at Papa Murphy’s and slipped me free pizzas, that way I didn’t have a stroke due to all the sodium I was ingesting in Cambpell’s soup or Ramen.  Oh, and for a while my only vitamin c was from pineapple on Hawaiian pizzas.

Comment #44: GeekGirlsRule  on  07/07  at  07:48 PM

ahaha I also just realized that it’s a cogent point that I only cook complicated things when there are men around. Because my boyfriend and my brother, the two men most likely to be around, both claim not to know how to cook. Which means I deputize them to do pretty much all of the chopping. I hate chopping. I am in charge of adding things to the pan, thank you kindly.

I would probably be a much less social person if I owned a food processor. I’m just saying.

Comment #45: purpleshoes  on  07/07  at  07:49 PM

I think the only real difference with what I eat alone is that, when I’m alone, I’m more likely to eat bad tasting or badly prepared food.  If I try a new recipe that doesn’t turn out or overcook something, I eat it anyway since I hate wasting food, but I would never offer it to someone else.

Growing up, it was all or nothing with my mother.  She either made full meals from scratch or she’d buy ready made food from the grocery store.  I guess I’ve inherited that tradition, because I tend to just get take out if I’m out of stuff I cooked myself.  I normally cook a lot at once and eat it over the course of a week.

Comment #46: keshmeshi  on  07/07  at  07:57 PM

“mirepoix motherfucker!” is now going on my gravestone. Brilliant.

When I’m alone, which is about one or two weeks every year, I go full no-carb. That means all meat and eggs all week. I lose about 10 pounds and love it.

Normally, I do all kinds of dicing and slicing as I do all of the cooking at home. You want real beef Burgundy? Fuggetaboutit. No problem. You want pineapple brined turkey over ginger-soy thai salad with green papaya? Just a normal week night.

But when the wife goes away, I can indulge my inner fat fanatic. That’s when I pull out the Bacon Explosion (minus the BBQ sauce).  Check out my blog at this posting to see the bacon explosion in progress. (scroll down to about mid-way) It’s like a smokey, spicy meatloaf. Two slices and you are done for. Paired with a robust Pinot Noir and you can’t beat it with a stick.

And I’m just as sick of the perception that men can’t cook anything but brats on the grill as women must be delicate while men must have the manners of a weak king.

Ok, I’ll also slice and dice when she’s gone as well. That’s when I try the different braises since they’re usually too rich for her. (i.e. too fatty, the way I love ‘em)

Plane

Comment #47: PlaneCrazy  on  07/07  at  07:57 PM

<lockquote>Maybe toss some of the kids’ goldfish in it. </blockquote>

Caren, I really hope you’re talking about the tasty snack cracker from Pepperidge Farms; if not, well, I can see why you’d want to be quite alone when you ate that…

Comment #48: thalarctos  on  07/07  at  07:58 PM

and BLOCKQUOTE FAIL! oh, well.

Comment #49: thalarctos  on  07/07  at  08:01 PM

My favourite alone meal: tortilla chips and salsa. Not home-made. And vodka.

Comment #50: allison  on  07/07  at  08:02 PM

mwah ha ha hah !  I EAT YOUR PET!  mwah hahahaha!

No, unfortunately, thalarctos, I did mean the Pepperidge farm snack.

Comment #51: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  07/07  at  08:07 PM

If I have the time and the energy, I make something my wife doesn’t like. For instance, she’s not a big fan of jambalaya or ma po tofu. She also has trouble if I make something with too many chiles or too many sichan peppercorns, so I’ll make those. Or just something I’ve been meaning to try. Almost all of it is going to involve dicing at some point.

If I don’t have the time or energy, I might have cereal, or order a pizza, or have takeout.

I gotta say, though, that personality style is probably going to make more of a difference in what people eat when they eat alone than gender. Any gender differences, I suspect, are going to be more obvious among people who’ve internalized gender roles (and that’s Mister Captain Obvious to you).

Comment #52: befuggled  on  07/07  at  08:08 PM

Alternate version of article: Men CHOP, women sautee.

Comment #53: Dan  on  07/07  at  08:18 PM

Certain gender performances become so ingrained that we take them on as actual preferences, and the same thing with certain fears, and I have no doubt that many men would never just pour a glass of wine to drink even while eating a can of cold baked beans, because that behavior is coded as so very feminine in our culture that they fear it even if no one’s watching them.

And here I was thinking that it was because beer comes in handy single serving containers.

<mutters to self>Stupid ingrained gender preferences ruin everything…keeping me from enjoying a nice montepulciano with my dinner of yogurt, toast, and mixed nuts.</mutters to self>

Comment #54: Babieca  on  07/07  at  08:22 PM

And yet I bet you these same people will swear up and down that a woman can’t possibly be a real chef, just a cook.  And see no contradiction whatsoever.

Comment #55: Mnemosyne  on  07/07  at  08:24 PM

If you want to enjoy wine while not incurring gender role reinforcement/danger, drink it out of a mason jar.

Comment #56: Amanda Marcotte  on  07/07  at  08:26 PM

Alternate version of article: Men CHOP, women sautee.

An alternative I would have appreciated: men CHOP, women brunoise. (But only men can be professional chefs.) That way it sounds more like a defensive, limiting gender stereotype and less like a division of prep labor.

Comment #57: junk science  on  07/07  at  08:34 PM

A pot of tea (and some milk and sugar to go with it), and some bread and butter.  Heaven.

If I’m eating alone, there will be no chopping and dicing of things.  When I cook for the boys, though, my kinves are flashing and slashing.

I wonder what that means.

Comment #58: litbrit  on  07/07  at  08:37 PM

Well, I’m gay, so obviously rather than delicately chopping or slamming food around, I mince everything. Even cereal.

Comment #59: mr_subjunctive  on  07/07  at  08:39 PM

Most of my food is alone food, and some of it actually involves chopping or occasionally dicing.  Cooking too.  I guess my most ‘alony’ food is frozen pasta (tortellini or ravioli) with olive oil, kosher salt, and cayenne pepper.  10 minutes to make, reasonably tasty.  That or hashbrowns for dinner.

Comment #60: libdevil  on  07/07  at  08:41 PM

“My favourite alone meal: tortilla chips and salsa. Not home-made. And vodka.”

Tequila, with chips and salsa (especially in the form of a Margarita)?  That I can understand.

Vodka, chips, and salsa?  So deviate it calls all your other life choices into question…

smile

Comment #61: MikeEss  on  07/07  at  08:45 PM

If you want to enjoy wine while not incurring gender role reinforcement/danger, drink it out of a mason jar.

that only works if you have sissy anxiety but not hipster anxiety. drinking out of mason jars at home is definitely a reverse-pretentious hipster thing, where i come from.

Comment #62: miriam beetle  on  07/07  at  08:54 PM

Does it help that I put a lemon twist in my martini?

Comment #63: allison  on  07/07  at  08:56 PM

OK, I live alone and do all the cooking.  For the the last two days I have had stir fries (a summertime favorite) which require slicing and frying.  I eat real scratch made meals every day (I have a bunch of quick and easy meals that I rely on), most of which require some degree of slice and dice and relatively few of which require frying (my doctor does not approve of fried foods).  I am not gay and have never been accused of being effeminate (not that there is anything wrong with being that way) so where do I fit in this stupidity?

Comment #64: DrDick  on  07/07  at  08:58 PM

<blockquote>Whole tomatoes, eaten like apples (no dainty dicing here). I’ve been known to go through an entire bag of tomatoes as a snack<blockquote>

Word.  Jalmondale has it—I could live on plain raw tomatoes alone, at least between mid-August and late September.  The only better thing in the world is tomato sandwiches, which are made like this:  slice up a whole ripe farmer’s market tomato in medium slices.  Smear a bunch of mayo on a thick slice of good unbleached white peasant bread.  Arrange tomato slices on the bread.  Sprinkle with a little salt and a LOT of pepper.  Top with another slice of bread.  Take sandwich over to the sink; lean over to eat uninhibitedly.

If you want to get fancy, you could add a couple basil leaves on top of the tomato slices, but I never do.  Garnishing a great home-grown or farmer’s market tomato is like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa.

Comment #65: DawnDarc  on  07/07  at  08:59 PM

“Does it help that I put a lemon twist in my martini?”

So you violate the sacred Martini with a lemon twist instead of an olive?  OMFG!...

Comment #66: MikeEss  on  07/07  at  08:59 PM

And another BLOCKQUOTE FAIL!!  Curses!

Comment #67: DawnDarc  on  07/07  at  09:01 PM

So you violate the sacred Martini with a lemon twist instead of an olive?

More room in the glass for the alcohol that way.

Comment #68: allison  on  07/07  at  09:02 PM

Does it count if I drink it out of the bottle?  I am a beer snob but know nor care anything about wine.  I buy cheap sweet local red, use 1/4 cup to make a sauce for chicken, and drink the rest in one sitting.

Comment #69: lonespark  on  07/07  at  09:04 PM

Whether or not I cook for myself really depends on my mood. 

If I feel like it, I’ll make things the husband and kids don’t like, like roast chicken or a good steak (for him, all meat (hell, all food period) should be in curry form or at the very least cut up and served with pasta and a sauce and for them all food should come in nugget or pasta form) with a salad and either bread or roasted potatoes.  I’ll make a nice dessert to go with it too.  And I can eat on that for several days.  Or I’ll just make a huge BLT with roasted garlic, baby spinach, and sun dried tomatoes (one of my favorite things ever).  But if I’m feeling lazy, then it’s cereal with milk, yogurt with muesli or fruit, frozen garlic bread cooked with melted cheese, or something else really easy and quick that doesn’t need a microwave because I don’t have one. 

But having more than one meal alone in a given weeks is a definite rarity these days, because of the kids, it’s mostly the easy stuff lately.

Comment #70: ks  on  07/07  at  09:08 PM

I do love tomatoes, but nature’s perfect food is actually corn.  I could eat corn every single day.  I used to eat it still-frozen from the bag.  (What?  They’re like tiny little cornsickles.)

Out here in LA, I can go to the farmer’s market and get a fresh roasted ear of corn year-round.  Yum.

Comment #71: Mnemosyne  on  07/07  at  09:09 PM

See, I like to not actually thaw my steak portion (yes, I freeze things in portion size) and then sizzle it up in real butter to eat over plain short-grain rice when I’m alone, because that makes it all SUPER-rare in the middle, plus steak-butter over rice = win.  (All steaks in my house start with garlic salt)  But there are many varied ways I will cook and not cook with the hubby present.  I do experiment more when it’s just me around (especially since we only have two dinner nights a week together now) and I like things like sushi, and rare steak and he doesn’t.  However, in his bachelor days, he lived with my b-i-l who, if hubby didn’t cook, would make toast with peanut butter and chocolate chips.  Really.  That’s it.  Hubby has a few practiced, not particularly exciting but totally edible meals he can make. B-i-l has Toast, with peanut butter, and chocolate chips.  Which is not to say that that doesn’t sound tasty for a treat, but for whenever no one else will cook for you?

Of course my father-in-law is only capable of heating up soup from a can.  And is proud of it!  He’s bashful about how he’s re-building the stock of my shotgun for me, but look!  He can soup from a can!  People are strange.

Comment #72: Mimi  on  07/07  at  09:10 PM

I eat runny-yolked poached eggs on toast, cold cereal with soymilk and peanut butter toast, chicken caesar salad, tortellini with pesto, and frozen dinners.  The first two I commonly eat for breakfast.  I enjoy cooking, including chopping (lots of fun with a good knife), but apparently my enjoyment of it is mostly about the social aspects of cooking and eating.  I find cooking kind of depressing when I’ll be both cooking and eating alone.

I don’t think this says anything whatsoever about my gender.  It just says that food is social for me, so if it can’t be social, I’ll default to quick, simple, and utilitarian.

Comment #73: snowmentality  on  07/07  at  09:15 PM

I used to eat it still-frozen from the bag.  (What?  They’re like tiny little cornsickles.)

This works even better with peas.

Comment #74: lonespark  on  07/07  at  09:24 PM

If you want to enjoy wine while not incurring gender role reinforcement/danger, drink it out of a mason jar.

*sznort*

One of my great aunts goes everywhere with a mason jar of some sort of clear liquid.

Hooch is the proper term for it, I believe.

Comment #75: teac  on  07/07  at  09:35 PM

I like to cook, eat, and be alone, so I’ve been meaning to read this book since it came out.  I freely admit I have any number of weird food habits and preferences.  I"m a vegetarian, but I tend to swing between near-veganism and love affairs with eggs and cheese.  When I’m feeling down or discouraged, I like to eat spaghetti (cooked way past al dente) with condensed tomato soup (straight from the can) instead of sauce.  My usual habit is to make a big pot of soup and eat it until it’s gone, but sometimes I’ll make an absurdly elaborate meal and then eat it all by myself for Sunday dinner.  I eat kale once a day and will blather on about how delicious it is to anyone who will listen.  I put tamari on almost everything.  I make my own yogurt.  My favorite breakfast is pasta, and I love having waffles for dinner.

I really like eating alone because it means I get to read while I eat.  This was Not Allowed while I was growing up, but now I always read while I’m eating—even breakfast in the morning while I’m getting ready for work.

Comment #76: LauraB  on  07/07  at  09:41 PM

I have never had a knack for cooking for myself, sadly. I’m a good cook. It’s the only skill of mine that I have any confidence in. But I cannot cook for one. It’s at least partially loner guilt, I admit that, but it also just isn’t fun not having an audience. And the funny part is, I have a cooking show. You would think…

I’ve cooked for dates too, but having very few dates in my time, I’ve not had much success—hubris? performance anxiety? I don’t know. Except this one case that wasn’t a date, but this isn’t the place to whine about what happened.

Comment #77: BrianX  on  07/07  at  09:59 PM

And another BLOCKQUOTE FAIL!!  Curses!

The HTML Gods are angry!  We must sacrifice a virgin to appease their wrath!

Where did Eric the wingnut go again?

Comment #78: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  07/07  at  10:00 PM

<blockquote>If I have the time and the energy, I make something my <strike>wife</strike> SO doesn’t like. For instance, <strike>she’s not a big fan of jambalaya or ma po tofu. She also has trouble if I make something with too many chiles or too many sichan peppercorns, so I’ll make those.</strike> SCALLOPS. Or just something I’ve been meaning to try. Almost all of it is going to involve dicing at some point.

If I don’t have the time or energy, I might have cereal, or order a pizza, or have takeout.

Comment #79: bomberE  on  07/07  at  10:10 PM

This made me laugh because in our house, where we usually cook together, she usually chops and then passed to me (the guy) for frying. But it started out the reverse, then I was fired from chopping for being too slow and delicate about the chopping.

And if I’m drinking it’s most likely a red wine and very rarely a beer. I haven’t tried the mason jar though.


When I eat alone (and it’s not breakfast, when I’ll make some egg dish whenever possible) it’s usually leftovers or takeout, though if I’ve shopped for the occasion there’s likely to be frozen ravioli or similar. When she eats alone it’s probably miso soup. With (ew) mushrooms.

BTW I’ve quote enjoyed the comments on this post!

Comment #80: Rob Funk  on  07/07  at  10:15 PM

(argh, posting from the iPod gives me a few wrong words. Sorry about that. At least I trynt try to blockquote.)

Comment #81: Rob Funk  on  07/07  at  10:19 PM

Is it still pretentious to drink out of a mason jar if you have just one?

Comment #82: libdevil  on  07/07  at  10:58 PM

Caesar’s salad in a bag and a frozen thin crust margherita pizza (either CA Pizza Kitchen or the Safeway brand, whichever is on sale).  Accompanied by whatever halfway decent wine was less than 10 bucks that day.

Comment #83: DonnaDiva  on  07/07  at  11:25 PM

The goldfish stuff has made me think of one of the BEST advertising jingles ever played on TV.

here’s our jingle for goldfish
those baked and not fried goldfish
the wholesome snack that smiles back until you bite their heads off
did you know they’re made with real cheese
even though they look like fishies
the snack that smiles back
GOLDFISH!

Comment #84: TheRealistMom  on  07/07  at  11:25 PM

Tonight I “slammed” a whole (parboiled) sausage into a frying pan and added diced onion. Does that make me a hermaphrodite?

Comment #85: Bitter Scribe  on  07/07  at  11:35 PM

Is it still pretentious to drink out of a mason jar if you have just one?

less pretentious. also less pretentious to drink out of a jar if you’re traveling, because then the screwtop has an actual purpose. it’s not pretentious at all, of course, if buying a set of glasses would actually be a burdensome expense to you.

the most pretentious hipster i ever met (a roommate of a friend of mine) has mason jars instead of drinking glasses, & carefully preserves the labels on them all, in case god forbid you should forget they once had artichoke or whatever in them, & mistake them even for a second for actual drinking glasses.

i absentmindedly peeled the label off of one before i realized this. i’m pretty sure he then took his revenge by throwing out my shower cap.

Comment #86: miriam beetle  on  07/07  at  11:39 PM

The HTML Gods are angry!  We must sacrifice a virgin to appease their wrath!

Pandagon doesn’t have interns? Virgins are hard to find, but interns…

Comment #87: befuggled  on  07/07  at  11:44 PM

Word.  Jalmondale has it—I could live on plain raw tomatoes alone, at least between mid-August and late September.  The only better thing in the world is tomato sandwiches, which are made like this:  slice up a whole ripe farmer’s market tomato in medium slices.  Smear a bunch of mayo on a thick slice of good unbleached white peasant bread.  Arrange tomato slices on the bread.  Sprinkle with a little salt and a LOT of pepper.  Top with another slice of bread.  Take sandwich over to the sink; lean over to eat uninhibitedly.

If you want to get fancy, you could add a couple basil leaves on top of the tomato slices, but I never do.  Garnishing a great home-grown or farmer’s market tomato is like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa.
DawnDarc on 07/07 at 07:59 PM

Yum! yeah, but I get fancy by using lemon pepper.  Hope that’s not a desecration.  And maybe an orange oxheart tomato. (Just jumped over from the gardening thread, sorry for getting all heirloomy.)

Comment #88: phylosopher  on  07/08  at  12:11 AM

I make mac and cheese. Sometimes, I’ll make the generic brand, sometimes I’ll make it from scratch, but I am always chasing the ghost of childhoods past, and the particular chemically cheesey taste that hasn’t been manufactured since 1982.

I have no idea what the husband does when I’m gone. We’ve never spoken about it.

Comment #89: Ticky  on  07/08  at  12:12 AM

Ahhh Mimi, a carnivore after me own heart - just trot it over the grill and when I cut it, I want to hear a mooooo.

Comment #90: phylosopher  on  07/08  at  12:14 AM

When I’m feeling down or discouraged, I like to eat spaghetti (cooked way past al dente) with condensed tomato soup (straight from the can) instead of sauce.

I’m sorry, but my Italian ancestors are telling me I have to kill you for blasphemy.

Comment #91: Mnemosyne  on  07/08  at  12:25 AM

There are only two ways to find out how people cook when they’re alone: 1) spy on them, or 2) ask them.

Sure, 1) is reliable, but has the rather striking disadvantage of being illegal. Considering how wrapped up in performative sexuality cooking is in American culture, though, it’s pretty hard to claim that 2) is in any way reliable. Someone who is predisposed to have a gender bias when it comes to cooking is naturally going to respond to an interview question in a way that confirms that gender bias, especially if the questions themselves are biased (which, given the way this radio interview apparently went, wouldn’t be at all surprising).

Comment #92: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  07/08  at  12:28 AM

Mnem:

I’m sorry, but my Italian ancestors are telling me I have to kill you for blasphemy.

I’ve used jarred tomato soup as a pasta sauce before, but it sure as shit wasn’t any canned condensed crap.

Comment #93: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  07/08  at  12:30 AM

In high school, my sister would come home and slam shut her bedroom door, only coming out for some cold cooked pasta which she drizzled with soy sauce, so I could totally relate to Amanda’s post.

If we’re talking “alone meals,” the fastest for me is to make broccoli, and eat it with small curd cottage cheese and whole wheat toast. Cooking for one is annoying. So, when I was single, I would cook on Monday and Tuesday, and alternate leftovers the rest of the week.

I like my food to have a high vegetable to meat ratio. Stirfries are good, because a little meat goes a long way. Meat sauce for spaghetti is similar: I use a lot of Six In One to a little chuck I grind myself.  Or I’ll grill a hunk of top sirloin and put slices on top of salads for the next week.

Comment #94: Hector B.  on  07/08  at  01:05 AM

If I lived alone I’d eat nothing but omelets and homemade French onion soup.  My sodium and cholesterol must be through the roof.

Comment #95: Sidwood  on  07/08  at  01:21 AM

I’m presently eating leftover cheese dip and crackers out of the tub.

We just had a barbecue so the leftovers are exploding out of the house. I’ve eaten every variation on potato salad a person can think of. The best was the potato salad sandwich. Usually though, I either eat straight up disgusting food, so much so that it makes me sick (see the great cheese ball dinner of 2008) or just boring (farfalle with feta, artichokes from a jar, and baby tomatoes).

I’m also not above eating tuna from a can.

I need to ask the fellow what he eats.

Comment #96: iena  on  07/08  at  01:33 AM

people who just pour soy sauce on rice

Heh.  That’s a popular treat in the Mexican community, they eat jasmine rice with Kikkoman soy sauce the way I used to eat my great-aunts’ won-ton, and Chinese consider that to be coolie food of the lowest kind, what you’d eat when you’ve run out of veggies meat and money wink

FWIW, the only excuse in my wife’s culture for a man not to be able to cook would be either a severe physical or mental incapacity, although her paternal grandmother had such a privileged upbringing that she never learned how to cook a pot of rice, which is the Asian equivalent of not being able to boil water.

OTOH, she chops a lot better than I do, I tend to leave a pile of geometric shapes that seem to have been inspired primarily by the architecture of R’lyeh than any kind of food preparation technique.

If you want to cheat and learn HTML at the same time, you go to view->source in IE, or you go to view->page source in Firefox or SeaMonkey, and then you look for what is modified in the source code and you’ll see what the HTML code for say, underlining, like <u>this</u>.

my only vitamin c was from pineapple on Hawaiian pizzas

You would’ve been better off drinking pine needle tea, heat degrades vitamin C in plant tissues.

As for my own food, I like sourdough bread with margarine and dry salami after a few minutes in the toaster oven, or sok, which is a rice porridge whose main constraint isn’t ingredients or preparation but time, you have to cook it for 2 hours to get the right consistency, but it doesn’t have to be much more than a little long grain rice, leftover chicken, chicken stock or base, a few slices of ginger, and some 5 spice powder for flavoring.

My father married a woman of Italian descent, so they’ve gotten to respect each others’ cuisine to the point where he realizes that Chef-boy-ar-dee is about as Italian as the Duke of Edinburgh is Scottish, while she’s come to appreciate dim sum, a taste Dad picked up from Mom as he never ate much Chinese food until after he married her grin .

Comment #97: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  07/08  at  04:00 AM

Anecdata: I often eat food directly out of packages if I’m not fixing food to share. I drink soda from the can. When I fix finger food, like rinsing baby carrots, I just run the water over them in my hand and eat. I like to avoid dirtying dishes when I can.
My spouse, who is male, puts even a few cookies onto a plate, and pours his soda into a glass.

My guess on the main difference? He grew up in a finicky house, whereas my family tended to have a range of manners ranging from company to camping.

Comment #98: Samantha Vimes  on  07/08  at  05:43 AM

Tonight I “slammed” a whole (parboiled) sausage into a frying pan and added diced onion. Does that make me a hermaphrodite?

How fatty was the sousage?  Were you frying it in the nude?

Comment #99: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  07/08  at  07:05 AM

Note to self: don’t read threads like these while DH is sleeping. I damn near guffawed at the idea Caren was eating her children’s pet goldfish while they were out, and we are in a tiny studio. I think my siunses exploded from suppressing laughter.

Comment #100: Samantha Vimes  on  07/08  at  08:15 AM

...have no doubt that many men would never just pour a glass of wine to drink even while eating a can of cold baked beans, because that behavior is coded as so very feminine in our culture that they fear it even if no one’s watching them. 

Very Texas.  No, this is not accurate throughout the USA.  Hemmingway for gods’ sake(whichever you prefer)!  Anyone of Italian, French or Spanish ancestry?  Also, any man told by his dr to pick up the habit due to heart troubles is as likely as a woman to do so, if only because it’s there, in the fridge or on the counter, and needs to be drunk.

Okay, I’ll read the rest now.  Had to get this one out before I forgot.

Comment #101: helen w. h.  on  07/08  at  08:39 AM

I used to eat it still-frozen from the bag.  (What?  They’re like tiny little cornsickles.)

This works even better with peas.

I’ve done both of these, though not as a meal.

How I’ve dealt with the eating alone varies drastically due to duration and facilities available for cooking.  I have lived alone in spurts over the last 5 years when on long term travel for work. 
The last time, both I and my SO were alone for the week, then together on weekends.  We both saved cooking for F-Su.  He ate a lot of peanutbutter, noodles and cereal (the first two sometimes together, though usually it was on sandwiches for the PB & with frozen vegs for the noodles).  I ate a lot of take out and sandwiches. 
The previous time, I would be gone for 6-8 weeks and had an apartment.  I did the whole gambit: trying complicated dishes for the first time to eating tuna out of a can with crackers to raw veggies and fruits to crockpot all-day stuff.  The SO had the kids still at home, so had semi normal food most of the time.

Comment #102: helen w. h.  on  07/08  at  09:11 AM

Well, I’m gay, so obviously rather than delicately chopping or slamming food around, I mince everything. Even cereal.

FTW!

I live alone, and I go through times of cooking and times of cereal eating.  I love to make risotto for myself, and I put anything and everything in it.  When the asparagus was on, it was sauteed chopped asparagus and spinach, peas, shrimp.  I’ve made porcini risotto, which is very robust.  I will go on cooking like this for weeks.

Then I will go through a period where I can’t be shifted to apply that much energy to the cooking task, and I will live on cereal and store-bought stuff.  I think I would cook more if I lived with someone, simply because that person could help with shopping, chopping, cleaning, etc.

Comment #103: speedbudget  on  07/08  at  09:24 AM

I live alone so I almost always eat alone.  I don’t delicately chop or aggressively fry anything.  Instead, I delicately remove food from its cardboard box and aggressively microwave it.

Seriously though, eating alone makes me forget about performing, even beyond the context of gender roles.  I usually change into pajamas pretty soon after I get home, and so I don’t have to worry about being messy.  I know I shouldn’t be, I’m too embarrassed to eat certain messy foods in public.  But I love them so much that I will buy them and enjoy them at home, hidden away from everyone.  This includes bone-in chicken and oranges.  I also prefer to eat Ben & Jerry’s in private, because I enjoy it too much and don’t like other people to see me essentially making out with my food.

Comment #104: bananacat  on  07/08  at  10:03 AM

Is it just me, or is there actually more overt sexism drenching everything, than there was 10 years ago?

It’s not just you.  Things have been worse lately.  I don’t want to derail the thread, but I’ll share an example.  I had two nieces born within a few months of each other, a few years ago.  For Christmas gifts, I wanted to get something special and not just some more plastic toys.  I decided to find baby’s first Christmas ornaments.  The only ones I could find were pale pink or pale blue.  Those are not Christmas colors!  I could not find a single red and green ornament for baby’s first Christmas.  However, I know that actual Christmas-themed Christmas ornaments existed twenty years ago, because I still have mine from my first Christmas.  It’s like they suddenly decided that we have to shove pink and blue down their throats for every possible occasion, just to remind them that they’re completely different.  Anyway, I ended up getting generic Christmas-colored ornaments that were personalized with their names, even though they weren’t specifically for a first Christmas.

Comment #105: bananacat  on  07/08  at  10:10 AM

related: NPR had a bit on Morning Edition this morning with an interview and walk with a guy who wrote some book about how we can go to the moon, but can get lost in the mall. And for some idiotic reason, they started going into gender stereotypes: “I’m a guy, so I hate asking for directions. But we have our producer with us, and she’s a woman. She can just intuitively know which way to go, ha ha!”
Glad I quit working for them.

Comment #106: Theaetetus  on  07/08  at  10:24 AM

Well, I’m gay, so obviously rather than delicately chopping or slamming food around, I mince everything.

Hey!  That means I *do* cook like a straight male.  I just wanna stick it right in the microwave without any messing about, except for those special occasions when I go to the other side of my kitchen and stick it in the oven instead - that’s hotter, but messier.  And I can only do that if I play around with some knobs first.  Either way, I’ve learned it’s best to use the appropriate wrapping.

I just wish my food life didn’t involve small packages, eating for one, and using my fingers so often.

Comment #107: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  07/08  at  10:24 AM

The worst thing abut the NPR program was how they immediately generalized the men’s actions and experiences to “the human condition,” etc. but instantly generalized the women’s actions and experiences to…women.  And no one noticed this or had a problem with it.

Comment #108: Gavel Down  on  07/08  at  11:18 AM

James, are you freaking rich?

Yes.  On a global economic scale, I earn more than 99.99% of the people on this planet.  (Of course, US poverty level would be considered “rich” in Somalia.)

More honestly, probably not “rich.”  But, my parents did very well for themselves and I had an excellent upbringing.  Until about 2003, I’d say I was solidly upper-middle class, but that recession destroyed my savings and investments and I am now paycheck to paycheck, which is a difficult adjustment when you have never lived that way before.  Still, I am better off than many people I know, and I try to do what I can, but my dreams of endowing a museum are history…

Comment #109: James  on  07/08  at  12:00 PM

In high school, my sister would come home and slam shut her bedroom door, only coming out for some cold cooked pasta which she drizzled with soy sauce, so I could totally relate to Amanda’s post.

One of my favorite comfort foods is a good dan dan mein.  Asia is filled with street vendors who will cook up noodles with various sauces, and my favorites were the spicy sauces I had in Qongching.  The closest I’ve come to mimicking it in my kitchen is to take sesame paste (peanut butter is a passable alternative, use creamy not chunky), dark soy, chili oil, red vinegar, sugar, and Sichuan peppercorns.  Mix that together and use that as a topping on the cold noodles.  The chili oil will warm you up, and the sesame paste and noodles will fill you up.  You’ll need to experiment with the ratios, go very easy on the peppercorns, as they can be overwhelming.  I use about 4T sesame paste, 2T soy, 3T chili oil, 1T red vinegar, 2T sugar, and 1t peppercorns,
but I like mine to be firey.  If you use peanut butter, remember it is more oily than sesame paste.  It takes maybe 10 minutes to put this together if you already have the cold noodles.

Comment #110: James  on  07/08  at  12:15 PM

Is it just me, or is there actually more overt sexism drenching everything, than there was 10 years ago?

It’s even infecting children’s shows now. Try watching Max and Ruby sometime. It’s so freakin’ nauseating in its reinforcement of 1950’s gender roles that I don’t allow my daughter to watch it anymore.

Comment #111: Jeff  on  07/08  at  03:29 PM

Amanda Marcotte

If you want to enjoy wine while not incurring gender role reinforcement/danger, drink it out of a mason jar.

Make sure you also use the lid. This way you can keep fruit flies from falling in and drowning. (why do you think fancy German beer steins have lids if not to keep out the bugs). If you are drinking the wine so fast that this is not a problem then you might as well chug directly from the bottle.

Some evenings I like to drink just one glass of wine - out of my favorite Smucker’s Peanut Butter 26oz ‘glass’.

Comment #112: MonkeyBoy  on  07/08  at  10:51 PM

<u>This way you can keep fruit flies from falling in and drowning.</u>

Von dem Viki:

During the late 1400s central Europe was repeatedly overwhelmed with summer swarms of insects. This led naturally to the practice of covering food and beverage containers, and thus greater use of lids .[1] With a thumb lever within reach of the mug handle, it’s possible to open a stein with the same hand by which it’s held. Lidded steins are now used out-of-doors, in beer gardens, festivals, etc. to keep the rich liquid clear of insects, tree debris, etc. As such they may serve as a sanitary measure.

“The origins of steins date back to the 14th century. As a result of the bubonic plague and several invasions of flies throughout Europe shortly thereafter, Germany established several laws in the early 16th century requiring that all food and beverage containers be covered to protect their contents. By combining a lid, hinge, and thumblift, these ‘German’ containers could easily be opened and closed with one hand.

Except for the fact that there were German-speaking entities at this point in time, Germany as a nation didn’t exist until the last part of the 19th Century, it sounds about right.

Comment #113: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  07/09  at  03:19 AM

I find it somewhat strange that the seemingly odd size of 26 oz is common in glass jars and even mason jars.

Well it turns out that 26 oz = 769 ml. Thus this jar can hold a complete bottle of wine or booze and provides a lid to keep the bugs out. (old fifth gallon = 757 ml, new “fifth” = 750 ml)

Comment #114: MonkeyBoy  on  07/09  at  09:51 PM

Oh good, I’m not the only one who eats white rice with soy sauce on it.  I’m probably the only one who eats it with soy, rice vinegar, and wasabi and nothing else.  Anything that takes more effort is something we’re cooking for the both of us and eating together.

The gendered division of labor does kick in, I’m stuck with sorting the dried beans and measuring spices while my husband cooks (slams!) the raw meats.  Mostly because he puts the frickin heavy wok up where only he can reach it.

Comment #115: Godless Heathen  on  07/10  at  04:51 PM

I’m probably the only one who eats it with soy, rice vinegar, and wasabi and nothing else.

In my wife’s cuisine, boiled vegetables are served with chopped tomatoes in bacoong, which is salty and needs ‘the partner’ of naturally acidic tomatoes to accompany said b.v., and rice of course.

If people can’t afford to buy tomatoes, they use vinegar to acidify the bacoong, so, as with a lot of people around the world, you’re enjoying a version of po’ folks food, a little downscale compared to my own favorite sourdough butter/garlic toast.  grin

Comment #116: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  07/10  at  09:32 PM
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