And Sarah would have succeeded, too, if it hadn’t been for you meddling kids.

Actually they are doing a fantastic job with Palin. She is in highly controlled venues saying whatever comes out of her mouth and no one hears it except for the dunderheads and genetically deformed that show up and are worked up by the lies and spewed illogic of Ms. Disaster…

If she actually did more talkies, she would have to defend herself from angry journalists like Couric. In the protected venues filled with invitation only rednecks and idiots, she’s home free and out marketing the party to the people who could very well grease her way into the office. They might, ok WILL live to regret it, but for now, they get their mad on and love her for ‘speaking what needs to be spoken’ and it’s all happening out of the glare of the spotlight of the jaundiced and decidedly not liberal media…

...and it wouldn’t even be 3% extra in taxes.  it would be 3% extra in taxes ONLY on the portion of his net income above $250,000.  Because we have marginal tax rates in this country.

I find it interesting that it is Obama that was accused of being a charismatic cryptofascist figure, when Palin fits the role much better… well, except for the ‘crypto’ part.

If Sarah Palin had not existed, the Coen brothers would have had to create her.

...and it wouldn’t even be 3% extra in taxes.  it would be 3% extra in taxes ONLY on the portion of his net income above $250,000.  Because we have marginal tax rates in this country.

Not only that, but the business gets to deduct its expenses against its income, including its payroll, and pays taxes on its profits after that’s done. This is a business with two full-time employees. If it’s paying their wages and making a quarter mill in profits, then “plumber” must be as much of a euphemism as it was in Watergate.

Well, I for one am totally grateful to McCain/Palin for defending the fantasy alternate existences of working-class people everywhere.

Sarah Palin = Steve Urkel.

As lifelong Democrat, I have to say that Obama’s response to Joe the Plumber is an unmitigated disaster. The only thing worse has been the unseemly and over-the-top response of Obama’s supporters.

Quick anecdote, my mother, a grade-school teacher who has never, ever, not in her life voted for a Republican is utterly outraged. She’s so angry about the anti-Joe smears that she’s changed her vote.

I’m really worried that we’re blowing it.

Sarah Palin = Steve Urkel

HERESY.

You take that back.

As lifelong Democrat, I have to say that Obama’s response to Joe the Plumber is an unmitigated disaster.

Telling him that having lower taxes when Joe is first starting out in business will help him grow his business faster was an “unmitigated disaster”?  Or was it the part where Obama pointed out that having more customers who can afford his services would be better for Joe than lower taxes?

I’m really worried that we’re blowing it.

Yes, you do sound very ... concerned.

Dave: cool story bro

Seriously, you expect anyone to buy that faux outrage at face value?

Dave, as a former “lifelong” Republican, I have to ask you what the hell you’re talking about.

You sound extraordinarily concerned.

A millionaire business owner once told me that the reason poor people don’t work hard to become millionaires was because the prospect of an oppressive tax burden demotivated them.

To be fair, it’s the reason I choose not to be a millionaire.

You actually think that McCain didn’t know anything about the GOP-planted guy who’s the brother of the son-in-law of the guy who McCain took bribes from?  It was all just an amazing coincidence that this particular guy showed up?

I wonder if we can throw McCain off the R ticket and replace him with Joe the plumber, that guy is great.

Why aren’t everyone millionaires? Look at those who are! They are generally vain, self-aggrandizing, vainglorious, self-centered, egotistical, callous, inept, lazy, cheep, greedy, users who wouldn’t fuck anything that put up a fight unless it wanted to take a pittance of their money for taxes that might go for something other than lining their cages with more money or killing people with really negative sounding label words describing them like ‘spooks’, ‘gooks’, ‘sand ni***rs’, etc…

Let’s face it, if all of the rich people left because their tax rates went up 2% than the country would be far better off. Yeah, it would be a while to get things sorted out but since by and large the ‘utra-rich’ aren’t the great ‘American brain trust’, we’ll manage…

‘Joe the plumber’ is a straw man to be used to flail the democratic party with the very people they are supposed to represent - working poor. How dare the ‘democrat’ party tell that man that wants to buy a business (he legally can’t run) that he will pay higher taxes and that a black man is going to ‘spread around his money’ so that others might be able to eat and get healthcare and try to live a small part of the American dream rather than the freaking nightmare they have been living. I mean, what fucking country is this? This is BUSH LAND! Help yourself to taxcuts and don’t look at the ‘little guy’ who wants to screw you out of your money. The uppity lower class wants healthcare and good roads and good schools and safe food and safe water and safe jobs and cheap gas and equality of pay. They don’t realize that they all cost MONEY and their business owners are sick and tired of supporting them. Why can’t they provide for themselves?

“I’m alright Jack, keep your hands off a my stack. I’m in the high-fidelity first-class traveling set and I think I need a Lear Jet” Cut wages!!!

You see, there is something fundamentally wrong in this country.

McCain is talking to a ‘business owner’ and says that he wants to save him some money with tax cuts.

Why?

So far the ‘rich’ haven’t been doing a very good job of propping up the economy, have they. Why give the ‘big guy’ more money? For a Mercedes Benz? A BMW? Another house in the Hamptons?

Why?

I got a great idea. It’s a little ‘Maverick ™’ sounding but it could work: Let’s not put more money into the ‘big guys’ pocket and try putting more money into the ‘little guys’ pocket. There are a lot of them which might cost more but they get around too. And they really do buy stuff. A WHOLE LOT of stuff!

It sounds kinda wacky, but it might actually work… Make Joe the plumber actually support the people that can’t work for him because he doesn’t have a plumbers license because he’s not a journeyman plumber, but details, details… If you look metaphorically at the whole ‘Joe the plumber’ thang, you see that giving their employees more money could make for happier and healthier employees who would buy cars and boats and tools and provisions and wave runners and eat out more (at restaurants and would buy more computers and houses and well, just buy more and more stuff!

Wacky sounding, huh… It would probably never work…

Now let me get this straight.

1. Obama goes to Joe the Plumbers door.
2. Obama says ‘we need to spread the wealth’
3. Joe the Plumber disagrees
4. Media seek’s out Joe the Plumber, disappointed with his answers, Media attack Joe the Plumber
5. Left-wing blogs attack and set put to destroy Joe the Plumber.

all Joe the plumber did was disagree with Obama.

“Joe the Plumber” went from unknown to irritant faster than, well, Sarah Palin.

1. Obama goes to Joe the Plumbers door.

Nope—Joe approached Obama while Obama was campaigning in his neighborhood.

2. Obama says ‘we need to spread the wealth’

Nope—Obama says it’s better to give businesses a tax break when they’re first starting out than it is to give high-revenue businesses one.  He also pointed out that if the economy tanks and Joe’s customers can’t afford his services, Joe will go out of business, so it’s good business to “spread the wealth” and make sure his customers have enough money to hire him.

3. Joe the Plumber disagrees

That one you got right, at least.

4. Media seek’s out Joe the Plumber, disappointed with his answers, Media attack Joe the Plumber

Nope—McCain campaign finds Joe and works him into the debate, even inviting him to a McCain rally in Toledo.  Media start investigating to see if Joe is what McCain claims he is.  Turns out, he’s not even a plumber, much less a guy getting ready to buy a business with net profits of $250,000 a year.

5. Left-wing blogs attack and set put to destroy Joe the Plumber.

If by “destroy” you mean “show that the McCain campaign lied about Joe and his circumstances,” I suppose you could say that.  But, then, you’re from the side that thinks it’s perfectly fine to pick on a 12-year-old kid, but a grown man is too delicate to defend himself.

There’s a name for people who only pick on people smaller and weaker than they are, you know.

Left-wing blogs attack and set put to destroy Joe the Plumber.

Funny thing is, the person who dropped a dime on Sam the Unlicensed Plumber’s Assistant was probably a customer outraged that (s)he paid a fortune to a guy without a license.

Dave, your concern is noted.

Off-topic, but how many private eyes are there really that have their secretaries solve the cases for them? I’m most intimately familiar with Gabriel Knight and Grace.

One wonders if Pinky Leftbrain ever heard of Boolean logic?Naw.Sorry.But,let me parse over his statements.
Millionaires…......If they’re so lazy,how did they amass such wealth?
secondly,I’d like to have veryone’s rates increase 2%.I find it unstable that 40 % of the taxpayers pay no Fed income taxes.I find it fundamentally wrong that so many people want others to pay and feel ,well,entitled.
And PL,I understand you’re probably a once and future humanities student,but
1)Where do you feel being’rich’ begins,in terms of annual income?
2)What % of income taxes should the top 5%  of wage earners pay?
Just interested in a little thought .
  Now,a little about my hopes and aspirations.I think it very likely Sen Obama will win.And,since he seems to be overmatched at accomplishing anything,I expect the results to be bad.We’ll wait and see..
  “When I was a lad,I served a term as Novice at an organizing firm
I held long meetings,and I polled the poor
And I polished upm the handle on the big brass door.
I polished up the door so carefully
That now I am my parties chosen nominee

Chorus
“He polished,etc”
  My organizing had such small yields,I was sent to the Senate(Downstate Springfield)
I voted ‘Present” in a voice so bland
And I always helped my patron-if he’d grease my hand
Chorus"And he’d always help Big Tony,if he’d grease his hand
I voted present so incessantly,
that now I am my parties chosen nominee
Chorus"he voted ‘Present’ so consistently,that now he is his parties chosen nominee

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“Palin’s also demanding records of all communications between ACORN and Obama-”

Obama has an easy response to this - he legally cannot divulge those communications, since they were privileged. It’d be unlawful.

Please tell me why/how it’s priveleged?

Millionaires…......If they’re so lazy,how did they amass such wealth?

By having rich grandfathers.  What, you’re trying to pretend that every millionaire in the country made that money all by him or herself?

Perhaps Palin should divulge all the communications about official business that she has had with her husband, Treasonous Traitor Palin?