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John McLaughlin: Obama fits the ‘Oreo’ stereotype

Oh no, he didn’t. Jeebus H. Christ.

McLAUGHLIN: OK, let’s nail this thing down, and here’s a sample of what Jackson apparently sees as Obama disparaging the black community. OBAMA [video clip]: If we’re honest with ourselves, we’ll admit that too many fathers are also missing. Too many fathers are MIA. Too many fathers are AWOL. Missing from too many lives and too many homes. They’ve abandoned their responsibilities. They’re acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our family have suffered because of it. You and I know this is true everywhere, but nowhere is it more true than in the African-American community. McLAUGHLIN: Question: Does it frost Jackson, Jesse Jackson, that someone like Obama, who fits the stereotype blacks once labeled as an Oreo—a black on the outside, a white on the inside—that an Oreo should be the beneficiary of the long civil rights struggle which Jesse Jackson spent his lifetime fighting for?

You know what, the small nugget of truth in that flaming pile of crap is that it’s pretty clear Jackson, whose massive ego cannot be contained in an airplane hangar, is seeing the race merchant power slip from his fingers. People of color younger than Rev. Jackson’s generation of course have great respect for those who put their lives on the line for justice and equality, but that cannot and should not require fealty to the continued use of an incessant playing of the race card rather than putting the continued issues our country has regarding race into context. We have black and latino tensions, class conflicts within minority communities, and yes, continued desire (consciously and unconsciously) by the dominant culture to maintain white privilege because the browning of America is a challenging concept to contemplate with a black man poised to possibly be elected president of the country. But back to McLaughlin. Later in the segment, Michelle Bernard, president of the Independent Women’s Forum, says this:
BERNARD: It is an oddity, but I want to go back to the point you made about whether or not Obama is an Oreo, because if Barack Obama is an Oreo, then every member of this generation of African-Americans is an Oreo, because we stand on the shoulders of the people who fought for our rights, and all of us say that you cannot blame “the man” or white racism for everything that ails the black community.
That’s right. There is no reason why we cannot talk about the internal issues and social problems (a.k.a. “dirty laundry”) in the black community as well as institutionalized racism that exacerbates those problems. More after the jump. Asking young black men to take responsibility for the children they sire shouldn’t be controversial, nor should it be an indictment of all black men. There is a social pathology at work that needs to be taken seriously, not overlooked for fear of stirring the pot or letting racism—and racists—off the hook. That’s what some of the old guard civil rights lions like Jackson fail to understand. It makes it difficult to engage in constructive dialogue, let alone take action because the discourse is polarizing. Obama knows this and has navigated these waters exceptionally well. Perhaps that’s part of Rev. Jackson’s problem; the senator from Illinois is succeeding using a different formula that will neuter Jackson’s approach. I am eager to see CNN’s special, Black in America, which is coming up on July 23-24, a six-hour event. It is a welcome project given the times we are living in, and the tone and rhetoric that we have seen during this primary season.

Related:
* Obama and “acting white”
* Obama and race: our country is so confused

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 08:30 AM • (18) Comments

I have to say I never thought I’d live to see a day where members of the mainstream media casually threw around terms like “Oreo”. 

Seriously, I remember when I was in elementary school some kid picked up on that word and we all started parroting it, not really knowing what it meant exactly but just picking up on the controversiality of the term.  My mom (not known to be overly PC, and again this is rural Louisiana) heard me use the word and immediately put a stop to it, telling me in no uncertain terms, “We do not use that word.  It’s bigoted and hurtful.  I never want to hear you say it again.”

It’s all coming out of the woodwork now…

Comment #1: The Opoponax  on  07/14  at  08:52 AM

A black man can’t do anything right in this country.  He’s either part of the problem by ignoring or not speaking out against things.  Or he’s an ineffective part of the solution, since the problems are still there.  He either embraces all sorts of stereotypes, or he’s an elitist who is looking down on his kind.  So far, I’ve seen Barack Obama blamed for continued poverty in Chicago, hip hop culture, continued use of the word “ho”, the entirety of Bernie Mac’s career, Islamist wetdreams throughout the world, and more.  And I’ve seen Obama attacked for being an elitist, an intellectual, an egghead, and too cerebral in his approach to the world.  With a black man, you can have it both ways.

And since Obama is half white, I think it’s about time I blame him for NASCAR, Scott Peterson, Pat Boone, dental care in Utah, and Jessica Simpson’s career.

Comment #2: jon  on  07/14  at  08:54 AM

John McLaughlin fits the “dumb Mick” stereotype.

Comment #3: Steve LaBonne  on  07/14  at  10:34 AM

“Asking young black men to take responsibility for the children they sire shouldn’t be controversial, nor should it be an indictment of all black men. “

Amen, especially when he didn’t. He said that ALL absent fathers are a problem, clearly including that this is not just about black fathers, even while emphasizing the issue it is in the black community.

Just makes it how clear what McLaughlin really thinks. What kind of person even thinks this, much less spouts it on TV? “Do you think black people will object to someone who is intelligent, poised, practical, successful, and focused on the future and real issues, because obviously that is so unlike a real black person?”

We should have a word for people like that. Oh, wait…..

Comment #4: Lymis  on  07/14  at  10:57 AM

“A black”?  Stay classy, McLaughlin.

Comment #5: Pliggett Darcy  on  07/14  at  11:39 AM

I think Pam nails it when she points at Jesse Jackson personally.  People who are both egotistical and ascendant within a given community will lash ferociously out (both overtly and through back channels) at somebody who either threatens their ascendancy, or who threatens to break down the containment system of the group in which they maintain their ascendancy.  Library shelves creak with analyses of this sort of personal and group dynamic in tribes, politics, bureaucracies, religions, and so forth.  Jackson is not only being an asshole, he is being a predictable asshole.

And, worst of all, he’s doing it on Fox, which is pretty much an admission that he’ll whore himself out to anybody in order to keep his media Face up front.

Comment #6: seeker6079  on  07/14  at  11:49 AM

Where the effing eff do these white commentators get off being arbiters of how black somebody should be? My poor exploded head.

Comment #7: paul  on  07/14  at  12:53 PM

Ah, but Paul, he didn’t set himself up as an arbiter of how black someone should be. He did what blogs have identified as “concern trolling” - of course it wasn’t HIS question, or HIS opinion, or, even, really (when the poop hits the windmill) even something he felt comfortable with asking, but since someone had to ask, he nobly (and no doubt in a fair and balanced way), asked what Jesse Jackson was thinking.

The fact that nobody, least of all the good Reverend, might have been thinking it until McLaughlin brought it up is completely incidental, and asking why he didn’t simply the man what his opinions were rather than speculating is just, well, rude on your part.

Mop up your head and move on. Would it make you more or less likely to watch McLaughlin if you knew he routinely sodomized monkeys? And remember, you can’t spell McLauglin without a “laugh”.

Comment #8: Lymis  on  07/14  at  01:56 PM

That is, unless you misspell it. Damn.

Comment #9: Lymis  on  07/14  at  01:57 PM

I don’t think McLaughlin was “concern trolling.”  His use of the term “oreo” was startling and cringe-inducing; but you have to remember that McLaughlin is about 9000 years old and was an adult in the 70’s when that term was in vogue.  The subject was Jackson’s “hot mike gaffe” and he was trying to start a discussion on the political impact.  That’s not “concern trolling.”

Comment #10: liberalrob  on  07/14  at  04:17 PM

Ditto, Opo - my jaw dropped when I saw this. I can’t even bring myself to type the term, I consider it to be very offensive.

Comment #11: Faye  on  07/14  at  04:27 PM

I don’t know that Oreo necessarily means a black person acting white. 

Where I grew up, it was typically applied to mixed-racial kids (with some African American) who did not specifically call themselves black by kids who were black or mixed-racial who did self-identify as black.  This was in eastern Washington. 

My brother was one of those mixed-racial kids who did not as yet automatically think of himself as black.  As he was born in 1970, he was really too young to have decided on anything like racial identity when we first heard the term in the mid-70s.

Comment #12: Helen H  on  07/14  at  04:50 PM

“There is a social pathology at work that needs to be taken seriously, not overlooked for fear of stirring the pot or letting racism—and racists—off the hook.”

True, but it’s also absolutely necessary to point out that racists do try to use statements like those Obama made on Father’s Day to “get off the hook”. It’s also necessary to point out the true dimensions of this and any other social pathology that is manifested in the black community in order to remind blacks not to internalize the racist lie that we, as a people, are hopelessly pathological. Jesse Jackson doesn’t disagree with Obama- he’s just more concerned than Obama is about such statements being inadvertant(?) dogwhistles to anti-black whites.

Comment #13: Plantsmantx  on  07/14  at  05:00 PM

Who watches The McLaughlin Group, other than folks from Media Matters?  I’ll bet their audience is made up of hospital patients in comas or people who can’t reach the remote to changing the frackin channel! 
They’re probably figuring Obama has a promo deal with Oreo and will advocate sending cookies along with the next round of gubmint stimulation checks.

Comment #14: CParis  on  07/14  at  05:44 PM

Hey, if John McLaughlin and Arthur Silber agree on something, it’s gotta be right.

Comment #15: grendelkhan  on  07/14  at  10:06 PM

...My brother was one of those mixed-racial kids who did not as yet automatically think of himself as black.  As he was born in 1970, he was really too young to have decided on anything like racial identity when we first heard the term in the mid-70s.
Helen H on 07/14 at 11:50 AM

Unfortunately, Helen, “racial identity” is not really the same kind of thing as ethnic identity. It’s not about one’s own individual choices of what to embrace and what to ignore. “Race” is a social construct that has to do with how we organize our society, and so racial identity is determined by other people in society in general, not by oneself.

Of course one reason that “race” continues to appear as a legitimate category and not merely as a product of a particular society (a pernicious product of the pernicious aspects of that soceity, at that) is that it does overlap ethnicity. People with different ancestry do look different; people do inherit habits and customs.

It’s nice that you seem to think that in your neighborhood in Eastern Washington, the pathology of racism was not so present or visible that your brother was forced to think of his racial identity, whether he wanted to or not. I suppose at the age of 5 or so he could reasonably have not had to deal with it, in quite a few places and family situations.

Still, I don’t think that the term was nearly as innocuosly intended as you seem to imply. And if your brother made it his own, that’s great in a subversive sort of way. But sooner or later he’d have to come to terms with the hostile intent. That would make any positive redefining he did all the more creative and subversive if he could carry it off.

But when I first heard it, from one of my sisters, in reference to I believe one of her classmates, I knew there was something nasty about it somehow, though I grew up in Darkest Peripheral Suburbia, in various places near Air Force bases across Dixie. I believe my sister would deny being racist then and would even deny she was being racist then now, but the point of the term is the assumption that black people and white people are inherently, fundamentally, different, and so there is at any rate something remarkable about a person who looks black but behaves white. Even when the term is used by people who really have no intention of claiming they believe in racial differences, it assumes them and reinforces the profound racist polarization of the traditional American worldview.

Comment #16: Mark Foxwell  on  07/14  at  11:57 PM

Oreo vs. Watermelon:

http://www.imao.us/

Comment #17: JewLover  on  07/15  at  12:50 AM

Oreo was a more political term when and where I was growing up. If you just wanted to insult a black person, you’d say “acting white.” Oreo was rare; I heard it used for those who specifically turned against unambiguous interests in the general black community after achieving power by courting the same. Ironically enough, Obama could be accused of that with some accuracy. (I’ve certainly done it.)

One of the reasons why it was a rarely-used term, though, is that it was important that white people not start using it. At best, it would be misused. At worst, stupidity would be matched with bigotry and malice and—well, you saw McLaughin in that clip. Besides, it’s a bit like criticizing family members; you don’t invite the neighbors into your house to discuss the shortcomings of your kin.

Comment #18: No One of Consequence  on  07/15  at  02:27 AM
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