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Kentucky: HS assistant principal allegedly bans gay students from restroom

Now the homophobic idiocy of this is bad enough, but why the hell did this assistant principal think she had the right to do this? (Kentucky Equality Federation):

Kentucky Equality Federation received reports that a Franklin County High official allegedly sent an email to teachers instructing them not to allow homosexuals to leave class to use the restroom.

The email was allegedly sent after two female classmates were caught kissing in the public restroom.

Wait, an entire group of people can’t use the john in response to being offended by a kiss by

two students

. WTF?

I’d like to know what level this mentality, that gay and lesbian students should not be treated equally is coming from. An incident in one county could be called an isolated incident, but we now have similar reports in three other Kentucky Counties,” stated Kentucky Equality Federation Managing Director Laura Reed.

Isn’t this a health issue? Are gay students supposed to sh*t their pants if they are having a gastrointestinal bad day? This is so insane that the students held a protest.

And protect your keyboards for this irony alert—the word for the month of April at Franklin County High School is

tolerance

, and look at this:

“Franklin County High School establishes a secure community that fosters a spirit of cooperation and respect for academic excellence, personal values, and diverse cultures both in and out of the classroom.”

H/t Inside, Looking Out.

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 11:45 AM • (46) Comments

The email was allegedly sent after two female classmates were caught kissing in the public restroom.

With that kind of over-reaction, I immediately wonder how much “HS Lesbian” porn links he has on his home computer?  This following my rule that those who object the most have a secret self that is, at the minimum, attracted to said issue.  It never surprises me to find some right-wing anti-sex/gay/porn/whatever crusader dead in fetish gear or, better yet, another closeted-gay homophobic dipstick like Ted Haggard getting exposed.

Comment #1: MosesZD  on  05/02  at  12:27 PM

Ooh, ouch. It’s kind of embarrassing watching corwin fail like that.

Anyway.

instructing them not to allow homosexuals to leave class to use the restroom

What the fuck?

Comment #2: annejumps  on  05/02  at  12:50 PM

You know, if you’re going to make a stab at being “witty”, kid, you probably want to check on who’s posting the “shit” first. Just saying. I mean, if you’re going to be an idiot, you might as well not look like one or something.

Comment #3: StarStorm  on  05/02  at  12:51 PM

So, I’m assuming that when they kiss a boy and girl kissing in the bathroom they will pass a rule preventing teachers from allowing heterosexuals from using the bathroom, right?

No? 

Hmm…what’s the word I’m looking for to describe enforcing one standard on one group but not having an equivalent standard for another group. It’s on the tip of my tongue.

Comment #4: history_mom  on  05/02  at  01:00 PM

Where is the school spirit? Two girl kissing in the can. Come on that is hot stuff even if it were to dumplings that were a little man-ish it is still hot stuff. snark

Sorry I had to put the douche part of me out there.. LOL

All it takes is one tight-ass to rain on a parade. This teacher sounds repressed her husband most likely only anally rapes her.

Comment #5: Nixxx  on  05/02  at  01:15 PM

So, I’m assuming that when they [catch] a boy and girl kissing in the bathroom they will pass a rule preventing teachers from allowing heterosexuals from using the bathroom, right?

Oh, silly, that will never, ever happen, because boys would never, ever sneak into the girls’ bathroom or vice versa!

Because everyone knows that normal, heterosexual teenagers in love never, ever break any rules to get together behind adults’ backs.

Only those evil “gays” have sex!

Comment #6: Dorothy  on  05/02  at  01:15 PM

Wait—they think they know definitively who in this school is gay?

Comment #7: FlipYrWhig  on  05/02  at  01:23 PM

yes- the gaydar station was just recently installed next to the metal detectors.

Comment #8: jamie d  on  05/02  at  01:24 PM

Hmm…what’s the word I’m looking for to describe enforcing one standard on one group but not having an equivalent standard for another group. It’s on the tip of my tongue.

“conservatism.”

How do they know who all the gay students are?  If someone has to use the restroom, does the teacher have to ask “are you gay?” before giving an answer?  And what if they just lie—or is the class going to get to debate their orientation before a decision is made?

This reminds me of the Stupid School Administrators thread a few weeks back, where one incidence of bathroom vandalism led to the closing of all the school’s bathrooms except one.

Comment #9: Sour Kraut  on  05/02  at  01:31 PM

Jesus Christ, Franklin County is Frankfort, KY—the effing State Capitol! Its situated right between Louisville and Lexington, the two major metropolitan areas of the Commonwealth (I live in Lexington). One of the rural counties, I’d be sad but not shocked, but fucking Frankfort? I am truly shocked!!!

I just helped chaperone the “Night of Noise” where several of the Lexington High Schools co-hosted through their GSA’s (Gay Straight Alliance) a party following the day of silence—it was a big gathering, I was pleased.

School Administrators are pretty much cops—at least in mentality and ability to follow mindless policies like zero drug tolerance which some makes sense to them to deny kids with asthma their inhalers. I’ll send this post along to some Lexington GBLTQQI advocates and see if we can raise a serious challenge.

Peace

Comment #10: Thealogian  on  05/02  at  01:38 PM

No, you’ve got it pretty much—HS administrators in particular have long since given up on the idea of actually educating their charges and now view themselves as prison wardens.

Comment #11: Punditus Maximus  on  05/02  at  02:06 PM

“Well, they wouldn’t let me shit in the bathroom, so the principal’s desk seemed like an appropriate substitute.”

Comment #12: notsnot  on  05/02  at  02:10 PM

Nixxx, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Comment #13: Seraph  on  05/02  at  02:18 PM

I’ve been reading (lurking) for awhile but hadn’t bothered to register to comment yet…. and had to register JUST to second Seraph’s question to Nixx.

This teacher sounds repressed her husband most likely only anally rapes her.

What the fucking fuck? There are so many offensive things about this I don’t even know where to start—though I guess “Rape is not fucking funny” is as good of a place as any.

Regarding the original post, this is about the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a very long time. Are we supposed to just…hold it…all day? Being that that’s probably not possible for a lot of folks (myself being one of them), where exactly is a dude who happens to be into other dudes supposed to take a leak?

(Somewhat related: In the short time I was in HS, I actually used to use the bathroom in the nurse’s office—it was the only single bathroom, and I was bullied badly enough that I didn’t feel particularly safe using the public bathrooms, out of sight of security cameras or adults.)

Comment #14: julian  on  05/02  at  02:47 PM

For a climb into the wayback machine, I remember that the biggest sin supposedly committed in my high school bathrooms 40 years ago was smoking.

Tobacco, that is.

And yet, no-nicotine stained wretch was prohibited from using the poo machines.

(By the time my brother—three years younger—hit high, so had the smoking of much else, and yet, no prohibition against using the johns for anybody.)

Drug scares made headlines in all the local papers—and yet…

Just how insane are these Kentucky administrators?

Comment #15: judybrowni  on  05/02  at  02:59 PM

For the good news on glbt scene: even the (usually rethug-loving) Associated Press feels compelled to state that the issue of Gay Marriage is an opportunity for Dems, and a sinkhole for Republicans.

http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/ap-gay-marriage-opportunity-for-dems.html

Ah, it seems only short years ago that even the mention of gays and abortion on a progressive blog like Daily Kos caused concern trolls to swarm down and proclaim that those issues were “bad” for Democrats.

Yup, that the Dem’s base of women and gays should be deliberately ignored, lest we wish the party to wander in the wilderness for 30 years more.

Hah!

Comment #16: judybrowni  on  05/02  at  03:07 PM

Say, I know! Maybe they could get all the gay students to, I don’t know, wear some kind of armband or something! That couldn’t possibly end badly, right? ....Right? Guys?

Comment #17: Clio  on  05/02  at  03:19 PM

Clio, this is a genius plan. I can’t imagine any objections.

Comment #18: julian  on  05/02  at  03:55 PM

“Are we supposed to just…hold it…all day? .... where exactly is a dude who happens to be into other dudes supposed to take a leak?”

As written, it seems like the administration does not care if people are fucking in the restrooms, so long as they are not excused from class in order to rendezvous.

Comment #19: preying mantis  on  05/02  at  03:56 PM

So what did you learn from school today, honey?

[1] Two girls who kiss each other must be gay.
[2] Gays are bad!
[3] The bad gays must be kept out of restrooms, because otherwise [...?].
[4] The need to keep the bad gays out of the restroom is more important than the need for gays to use the bathroom.*
[5] Teachers can tell gays apart from those of a different sexuality, because [...?].

*Either gays have a supernatural ability to go without shitting, pissing, menstruating, and vomiting, or the consequences of denying the most common outlet for their bodily waste are much less severe than the consequences of allowing them to use the restroom. So, occassionally, a student may sit down in a seat after another student shit their pants there, but it’s okay…at least the gays aren’t in the restrooms.

Comment #20: Diane  on  05/02  at  04:08 PM

Okay, my peeps, the Franklin County Board of Education’s number is (502) 695-6700, press “4” at the prompt for the superintendent’s office.  No one’s there now, but their voice mail’s open, and I left them a very nice message.  Hopefully on Monday someone can get in contact with the school, subject them to questioning, record the whole thing, and post it on YouTube.

Comment #21: Maureen  on  05/02  at  05:06 PM

I know the kids are probably too civilized to do this, but finding the official’s office and staging a piss-in protest there would be just.

The most oppressive workplace I was ever in, admitted workers could leave their desks to use the loo as needed.

Comment #22: Samantha Vimes  on  05/02  at  05:48 PM

Schoolgirls kissing?  Quite right to ban it - there’s a time and a place for that sort of thing.

Judging by experience, that would be Friday night at Manners Mall, in between the high-pitched squealing and the blocking of traffic.  As Molly Ringwald once said “Fucking teenagers!”.

And there’s the problem of knowing who exactly is one of them there hoooooomos.  consider the jocks.  The only rational thing would to never allow those macho perverts to shower together or use the locker room more than one at a time.

Comment #23: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  05/02  at  06:17 PM

First girl to shit her pants in class will make CNN and blow this wide open.

Pun so totally intended.

Comment #24: The New Anarchist  on  05/02  at  06:23 PM

Smoking in bathroom circa my era and what’s happening here….

Observations:
Tobacco use back then was more prevalent than homosexuality and more accepted.  Might still be?

What happens when two guys are caught doing the same thing???

There’s no way this is ever really going to be implemented IMHO.  It’s an aberrant email that will be glossed over for public relations sake…....or maybe not…..we are talking Kentucky here, not someplace sane like Iowa.

Enjoy.

Comment #25: The Tim Channel  on  05/02  at  08:16 PM

Even though I’m straight, I’d be tempted to piss on her door since i couldn’t use the restroom.

Comment #26: Ms Kate  on  05/02  at  09:10 PM

Shit, in my junior high and high school, groups of shirtless and braless girls wearing only underpants would link arms in the locker rooms and sing “I love you, you love me, Homosexuality ... people think we’re just friends but actually we’re LESBIANS!”

Comment #27: Ms Kate  on  05/02  at  09:12 PM

So, let’s just set a standard that cert certainly doesn’t reflect reality

Like, we should just declare a certain subset of the class to be gay and then deny them access to sanitary facilities?

Yeah, that’s pretty unrealistic.  Tell me - do they have a gay test or do the teachers just let the bullies decide who has to wet their pants?

Comment #28: Ms Kate  on  05/02  at  09:13 PM

Ah, yes, San Francisco. That Sodom, that Gomorrah, that den of sin where uppity gay folks have abandoned the use of slit trenches and are making use of indoor plumbing. Won’t someone please think of the children?

Comment #29: Clio  on  05/02  at  09:46 PM

Anyone else think of Tom Coburn when he was first running for Senate saying “Lesbianism is so rampant in some of the schools in southeast Oklahoma that they’ll only let one girl go to the bathroom”?  We need to find out who this “one girl” was and what signs of impeccable heterosexuality she showed; then we can teach schoolkids how to fool the Gaydar machines mounted on the bathroom doors.  Right?

Sorry if my sarcasm is weak:  I just can’t believe this shit.  Count me among the people who would never have survived High School if it’d been so totalitarian in my youth.

Comment #30: Josh  on  05/02  at  10:03 PM

Are gay students supposed to sh*t their pants if they are having a gastrointestinal bad day? This is so insane that the students held a protest.


That would be a great protest. You know, shitting your pants instead of going to the bathroom. Maybe it would get the whole school to evacuate (no pun intended).

Comment #31: Emily  on  05/02  at  10:52 PM

If he weren’t ruining kids lives, you’d have to admire the stupid. It’s really mindboggling to see that many wrong things in such a short message. Only other thing he could have done would be to insist that a teacher be detailed to watch on camera…

Comment #32: paul  on  05/02  at  11:18 PM

Shit, in my junior high and high school, groups of shirtless and braless girls wearing only underpants would link arms in the locker rooms and sing “I love you, you love me, Homosexuality ... people think we’re just friends but actually we’re LESBIANS!”

Damn - I knew other high schools were more fun than mine…

Comment #33: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  05/02  at  11:55 PM

Last I checked, there is the threat of a global pandemic going on here.

Last I checked, students and staff are being urged to wash their hands as often as possible, given recent norovirus outbreaks and such.

Last I checked, the place most people wash their hands is ... the restroom!

It isn’t only stupid, it contraindicates the advice given to schools by our homeland security and health officials!

Why do they hate America so much?

Comment #34: Ms Kate  on  05/03  at  03:09 AM

Franklin:

So, let’s just set a standard that cert certainly doesn’t reflect reality, tell ourselves it all true, and then get OUTRAGED….SHOCKED, I SAY when the world doesn’t measure up.

What unrealistic standard would this be? The standard that all kids should be allowed to go to the bathroom when they need to?

Yes, dreadfully idealistic. Better put a stop to that crazy liberal thinking right now. Next we’ll be expecting all kids to be allowed to drink from the same water supply, walk down the same corridors, breathe the same air, etc., regardless of colour, creed, or orientation.

And they claim anti-discrimination laws are unnecessary special pleading…

Comment #35: Nic_C  on  05/03  at  06:41 AM

The standard that all kids should be allowed to go to the bathroom when they need to?

Be understanding—the troll’s parents probably had some “unique” views of toilet training based on Biblical interpretation. Even now, he probably soils himself rather than feel the Wrath of Jesus (i.e. Poppa’s belt buckle) for having to use the toilet between 8AM and 3PM.

Comment #36: Gracchus.  on  05/03  at  09:49 AM

So, let’s just set a standard that cert certainly doesn’t reflect reality, tell ourselves it all true, and then get OUTRAGED….SHOCKED, I SAY when the world doesn’t measure up.

So, what were you really expecting? That wasn’t San Francisco.

WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT CAPSLOCK, FRANKLIN? WHAT DID I FUCKING SAY?

Am I going to have to perform a tracheotomy with a cheese grater?

Other than that, you don’t really say anything. Hurf durf San Francisco gays on the coasts, etc etc.

Poor showing, Franky. Poor showing indeed.

Comment #37: karpad  on  05/03  at  03:47 PM

Quit giving Frankie Rained-on such a hard time, karpad, could you have done better when you were in the 6th grade.

Comment #38: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  05/03  at  04:20 PM

Yes, DA, I could and did to better when I was in 6th Grade.

It’s like kung fu. If he’s going to get good at it, I have to whack him with a stick every time he screws up.

Comment #39: karpad  on  05/03  at  05:13 PM

Looks like he’s in for some whacking for a while, then grin

Comment #40: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  05/03  at  05:23 PM

I’m surprised that no previous commenters made the obvious connection to proud Kentucky history: clearly the correct solution is the establishment of separate restrooms marked “Men” “Women” and “C/o/l/o/r/e/d” “Gay”.

With the “Gay” restroom, obviously, being a one-holer, perhaps with a surveillance camera just to make sure.

Comment #41: Dr. Psycho  on  05/03  at  09:24 PM

i don’t even know what to say to this.

i’m pretty sure that not allowing someone to use the bathroom counts as “cruel and unusual punishment”. right?

right?

Comment #42: denelian  on  05/03  at  11:00 PM

Frankie:

What’s it like having such an empty skull? I’ve always felt like being drunk was like having my skull filled with helium, so I imagine it’s like that.

Comment #43: BrianX  on  05/04  at  12:32 AM

What’s the big deal about two girls kissing?  If it goes any further, at least neither of them will get pregnant.  I knew straight couples in high school who would have sex in the bathrooms or locker rooms, and most of them ended up with several kids, followed by an early marriage and no hope of college for either parent.  My best friend would have been better off kissing a girl instead.  Oh wait, that’s the whole point.  Conservatives want girls to get pregnant as punishment for any kind of sexual activity.  They want babies to act as scarlet letters for any teenage girl who dares to have any kind of sexual activity.  The thought of girls kissing and getting away with it by not having their lives ruined just pisses them off too much.

Comment #44: bananacat  on  05/04  at  10:13 AM

There is that weird thing in high schools where they try to control you with bathroom privileges. I had a teacher who would only allow each student one bathroom pass per year. I guess if you mix that bizarre attitude with anti-gay bias, something like this sounds like a perfectly reasonable idea.

Comment #45: Liz212  on  05/04  at  02:53 PM

bathroom privileges

Since when is peeing a privilege?  I would think that even the most domineering teachers would see it as a basic human right.  Apparently I’m wrong.

Comment #46: bananacat  on  05/05  at  09:22 AM
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