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Lessons from the health care reform debate

This health care debate, when it’s really grinding me down (and right now, with Republicans drawing out in a blatant play to weaken Robert Byrd’s health so that he can’t make the vote, I’m really pissed) has so far managed to at least cheer me up at moments like this:

Okay, why am I cheered that Lamar Alexander is so clueless, so elitist, so indifferent to the experience of everyone who isn’t a millionaire that he actually believes that a bus that comes every 5 minutes would be an intolerable burden?  Because what he said is so fucking unbelievable that it has the power to wake people up to exactly how elitist the “populist” Republicans are.  Of course, the teabaggers that are out there putting on like they’re some sort of peasantry in revolt aren’t really much better.  The teabaggers who flipped out about the way the Metro is D.C. runs live in a similar bubble.  Similar, but few of them are so incredibly removed from reality that they assume that buses come by their stops every minute or so. I’ve never even heard of a train that comes by that often. 

Of course, the teabaggers choose their own reality, so they’ll just pretend this didn’t happen, if they hear about it at all.  But I think that it’s at least helpful for liberals who may be skeptical of the claims that conservatives speak from a place of unbelievably ugly racism and classism and misogyny.  This health care debate has brought all of this to the surface, and made it much harder to deny.  Like this stinker from Lindsey Graham, where he lists having a 31% African-American population as some horrible burden that South Carolina has to bear:

Months ago, going in to this whole thing, I was wary of pointing out how racist the opposition to health care reform fundamentally is, because I felt that it was too big a pill for people to swallow that this many people can be motivated by this level of dehumanization of their fellow Americans. But now, no problem.  It’s fucking obvious as hell to everyone that right wing “populism” is about white people freaking out at the possibility that non-white people might get a better shake in this country, that Sarah Palin talking about “Real Americans” was racial code language, and that morons like Graham can get elected because that many white people in South Carolina are mean ass racists.  Not all, I’m sure. But it appears that it has to be a majority.

The point being is that I’m seeing a lot more people get a little more radical in their worldview because of this.  The mask has come off the right wing.

And here’s Rachel Maddow offering the kind of coverage of this unthinkable even a month ago:

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 07:08 PM • (21) Comments

When I was carless I would have given my left arm, at least in the heat of summer and cold of winter, to get a bus that came by every five minutes.

Hell, there weren’t even any sign to tell me how many minutes it was until bus X came!

Comment #1: Ben D.  on  12/23  at  07:28 PM

In appearance and manner, Graham has sometimes reminded me of the late, great Henry Gibson.  Today, he seems to be auditioning for Gibson’s role as the Illinois Nazi in “The Blues Brothers.”

Comment #2: Russell60  on  12/23  at  07:53 PM

The irony of Lindsey Graham is that while all of the things you’ve pointed out about him are true - he’s racist, misogynist, and classist - apparantly he’s not enough of those things to satisfy many of his even more wingnutty constituents.  Teabaggers desperately want to primary him, and he’s frequently referred to as “Lindsey Grahmnesty” because of his (slightly less wingnutty) views on immigration.

That a significant amount of the teabag crew finds Lindsey fucking Graham too librul for their tastes tells you all you need to know about how far gone these whackjobs are.

Comment #3: DTG in STL  on  12/23  at  08:10 PM

The conservatives in this country aren’t even trying anymore, and Graham’s dogwhistle is… rather audible. But then they’ve been making themselves look foolish pretty consistently for the last 14 months anyway.

Comment #4: BrianX  on  12/23  at  08:35 PM

DTG - I think some of them suspect he’s a closeted gay.

Comment #5: JennyLI  on  12/23  at  08:54 PM

OMG it’s been soooo obvious.  If anyone here attended any of the townhalls over the summer, or joined any counterprotests to the teabaggers, you knew.

Comment #6: JennyLI  on  12/23  at  08:55 PM

There are some places where the buses come every five minutes.  Unfortunately, I don’t know of any in the US (ah, Berlin.  City of good public transport).

Comment #7: Antigone  on  12/23  at  08:55 PM

The thing that gets me is that not only is every 5 minutes an astonishingly high level of service in most cities, but if you ran buses more frequently than that you’d risk gridlock.

Comment #8: BrianX  on  12/23  at  09:05 PM

In my area I’m thrilled when the bus comes every half hour.

Comment #9: kiki  on  12/23  at  09:19 PM

Similar, but few of them are so incredibly removed from reality that they assume that buses come by their stops every minute or so. I’ve never even heard of a train that comes by that often. 

The Moscow subway during rush hour. Literally less than a minute between trains. Forget scary communist health care, where’s our scary communist public trans?

Comment #10: brenda  on  12/23  at  09:27 PM

The Moscow subway during rush hour. Literally less than a minute between trains. Forget scary communist health care, where’s our scary communist public trans?

Well, the Soviets had to do a great job with their metro system, almost nobody owned private cars!

Comment #11: Ben D.  on  12/23  at  09:40 PM

”the kind of coverage of this unthinkable even a month ago”

Yeah, more of this please

The other thing ive noticed lately is the dirty 30 whining that they are getting flak from their constituents for voting against the Frankin amendment

No flashing red siren by America’s assignment editor Drudge, Rush & Hannity didn’t talk about it on the radio, Beck didn’t cry over it, no mention of it on Fox & friends, and a one day story in the main stream media

Yet the salt of the earth real Americans from solidly red states still know about it.

Comment #12: jefft452  on  12/23  at  10:09 PM

You could tell from the pause in his speech at that point that he has no idea what frequency public transit might actually have. He lives in Washington DC, a seriously transit-enabled city in the midst of a fairly transit-enabled region (all things considered), but I’ll lay you odds that except for the little tram that carries senators from their offices to the floor he’s never been on a train or a bus there, and probably never even noticed the existence of same.

Comment #13: paul  on  12/23  at  10:32 PM

In New York City during rush hour you might get a bus or train every ten minutes: but it’s one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country, with one of the best public transit systems.

I live in L.A. now, but moved to the City of Santa Monica 25 years ago, precisely because they have a better public transit system than the rest of L.A., where some lines run every ten or 15 minutes during rush hour.

But half an hour is a standard wait at night, even in Santa Monica, with one underused line an hour on Sunday.

I’m getting excited about a trolley/electric line being proposed across L.A. because of a promise that trains would run every ten minutes.

So yeah, clueless Republican idiot I’m someone who takes public transport and I’d be damned happy to have both a bus and healthcare that ran that crackerjack.

Comment #14: judybrowni  on  12/23  at  10:41 PM

I loved the Big Blue Bus when I lived in Mar Vista—I could take it to work at UCLA every day for 50 cents a ride.  Plus they have nice, clean buses and friendly (or at least non-surly) drivers.  Though they did have a big rate hike a few years ago—now it costs a whole 75 cents per ride, assuming you don’t invest in a ride card.

The weirdest thing about public transit in the LA area is that a lot of the small cities have really good transit that doesn’t connect to any other city’s transit.  So here in Glendale, the Beeline is actually a pretty good system, but you can’t take it to bordering cities like Burbank, La Canada, or Eagle Rock.  It’s pretty much within the city limits only.  To get from city to city, you have to take the RTD, which has enormous problems.  When we moved up here, I considered continuing to take the bus to work in Westwood, but it required me to leave at 5 am and change buses twice in order to get to work by 8 am.  And that was using commuter express buses!  No, thank you.

Comment #15: Mnemosyne  on  12/24  at  12:22 AM

When I was first out of high school I moved to Chicago and lived in Humbolt Park when it was still heavily poor, black, and Puerto Rican, and gentrification hadn’t really hit very much. The Division bus showed up once an hour if you were lucky. My roommate actually lost a pretty decent job as a retail assistant manager because one winter morning he waited for a bus for over 2 hours and it never came. This in the third largest city in the country.

A bus every 5 minutes is the sort of thing I would associate with heaven if I were a religious person.

Comment #16: jessilikewhoa  on  12/24  at  02:40 AM

Rapid Bus service on major routes in SM and LA brings peak hour service up to 5-7 minutes on weekdays, 12-15 on weekends.  SM buses continue to be bright, clean, ably driven, and safe.  Late-night frequencies are still on the order of 30min, possibly because SM has a very versatile transit mix through a wide range of neighborhoods, all with different traffic characteristics.  The line to the VA hospital (#4) goes through a high-property-value residential neighborhood as a straight shot for much of its length, possibly to avoid gridlock by using some narrower, many less-traveled and a few less well-lit streets, but that also necessitates lower frequency, fewer night-time trips, and a fairly early end of service for the night.  Big Blue Bus is actually an example of a capable transit agency succeeding (so far) in being all things to all people—a commuter feed to LA’s major boulevards and transit junctions, a municipal school bus (Crosstown #11 and the Santa Monica College Shuttle), a commuter service along a few major axes of its own (Rapid 3 and Rapid 7), a tourist-area shuttle (Tide Ride), all backed up by a gigantic local tax base and the expertise that kind of many can bring.

Smaller cities’ transit agencies often don’t connect anywhere useful because (like the Glendale Beeline, or Torrance Transit) they were conceived partly as feeder lines for the inefficient and underused Metrolink diesel commuter train system.  Long Beach Transit and the other lines that connect to the Metrorail subway and light rail do better.  All of these are mere shades of the great departed Pacific Electric system, which had its own regressive zonal fare issues and resultant minority ridership problems.  In fact a lot of activism in LA focuses on transit as a civil rights issue.

Comment #17: Eurosabra  on  12/24  at  05:56 AM

In the Texas city where I went to college, the busses ran once an hour - and most of the stops were nothing more than a signpost, so you could well stand there in 105F temperatures for quite some time in the summer. I didn’t care. I was happy that there was a bus at all, since I preferred waiting in the hot sun for half an hour to trying to bike in all the downtown traffic. I would have been even happier if bus service had extended past 8pm on weeknights and 5pm on weekends, since that limitation made it pretty much impossible for me to find a college job.

The small Texas town I live in now naturally has no public transportation whatsoever.

So… if Medicaid is a bus that “only” runs every 5 minutes, then being uninsured is presumably having no bus at all. Which I already have, both literally and metaphorically. And I would happily accept both some actual public transport options and a public healthcare option. Sadly, I live in a place where we believe in neither of these things.

Comment #18: Ira Wyatt  on  12/24  at  01:13 PM

I lived in Ottawa for four years. While they were definitely the shittiest four years I’ve ever seen, the big bus routes ran every 5 minutes or less. Now that I’m in KW, a smalller town, I generally wait 15 minutes. Unless U2 is playing in Toronto, in which case the bus drivers say “Fuck you all” and have better things to do than their goddamn jobs.

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Comment #20: Knox1986  on  12/28  at  12:10 PM

Montreal has buses going anywhere from 5 to 7 minutes… on major lines… at rush hours. If you fulfill only one such criteria it’s more like 15, and neither is 30 an up.

Comment #21: BlackBloc  on  12/28  at  07:28 PM
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