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Liars

Earlier, I denounced the mainstream media for complicity in McCain’s blatant lying during this campaign.  My terror might have been premature—-David Brooks and Richard Cohen, perhaps shamed by being bested by the ladies of “The View” in the journalism department, have denounced the McCain campaign for their unprecedented rip-roaring commitment to lying.

Richard Cohen’s pissed.

McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains—his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that’s all—but just as honorably. No more, though.

I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty.

He goes on to explain why, which you can read, but which I’m sort of bored by.  But the admission that he’s been in the tank for McCain is what needed to happen.  Now that he’s gone over the waterfall, everyone else will hopefully feel freer to do it.  And frankly, all the media types who have kissed McCain’s ass all these years should be furious. He betrayed you. He played you for suckers. He’s always been popular with the press because he’s nice and accessible and seems to respect them.  This insane lying streak shows that it was all an act.  McCain is that guy who takes you out to dinner, puts on a great show of respect and admiration, and after he gets you in bed, makes fun of you to all his friends because you were so easy. 

Meanwhile, I’m growing more confident in the belief that Sarah Palin’s main selling point as running mate is her ability to lie without blinking.  But as the link shows, she has poor judgment and appears to lie just for the fun of it.  I doubt anyone would really care if she read her speech off a teleprompter (she did, and it functioned fine), but she’s so enamored of the sexier story that she is sticking with it even though it outs her as someone who radiates contempt for the truth.  Or, considering her religious leanings, someone who prefers the fantasy over reality every time.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 03:30 PM • (40) Comments

The old joke was:

“Sincerity is the most important thing.  If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”

I never expected anyone to take that as a personal challenge…

Comment #1: MikeEss  on  09/16  at  03:57 PM

The thing is, by next week’s column, Cohen will be back in the tank for McCain.

Comment #2: Scott  on  09/16  at  03:58 PM

I’m sure.  But let’s hope this works as permission for the rest of the media to admit they’ve been taken for suckers.

Comment #3: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/16  at  04:00 PM

Rachel Weiner doesn’t get it. The RWTP is that whatever National Review graduate David Brooks is, he is certainly no conservative.

Comment #4: Hector B.  on  09/16  at  04:03 PM

I knew that going to war with the media would backfire. It does every time. The only Republican that got away with it was Nixon. Reagan was smart enough to suck up to the media.

Comment #5: Ben D.  on  09/16  at  04:17 PM

The thing is, by next week’s column, Cohen will be back in the tank for McCain.

I dunno.  this sure as hell will be kinda hard to back down from.  That’s some hefty snark.  I don’t think he likes McCain’s choice of VP very much…

Comment #6: NonyNony  on  09/16  at  04:45 PM

When huge liars tell you they’re mad at other huge liars, because the other huge liars are too dishonest… can you really believe them?

Comment #7: atheist  on  09/16  at  05:07 PM

When huge liars tell you they’re mad at other huge liars, because the other huge liars are too dishonest… can you really believe them?

We don’t have to believe them. We just have to hope that people who always believe anything they say remain consistent.

Comment #8: Auguste  on  09/16  at  05:12 PM

Meanwhile, I’m growing more confident in the belief that Sarah Palin’s main selling point as running mate is her ability to lie without blinking.

Following my thought from another thread:  I’m thinking that McCain’s plan all along had been to pick a token VP in response to whomever got the Dem nomination.  A black VP ala Clarence Thomas in the event Hillary had won the nomination, and Sarah Palin if Obama did.  Then he could sit back and watch the racism and sexism that were exposed for all to see in the Dem primary be unleashed all over again in the general.

And to put my $0.02 in:  if that had really been his plan, I’m sort of glad that Obama got the nomination.  To be blunt, I can’t imagine Hillary’s campaign working as hard not to be racist as Obama’s campaign has been working not to be sexist.

Comment #9: KL  on  09/16  at  05:21 PM

Exactly!!  Check out my latest video—John McCain: LIAR.  It has a shit-ton of clips of McCain LYING, cut to that awesome song “Liar” by Henry Rollins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOQn749k6kw

Feel free to post it up here!

Comment #10: Buck Power  on  09/16  at  05:24 PM

I knew that going to war with the media would backfire…The only Republican that got away with it was Nixon.

Hence my ongoing fears. Nixon was a master at the resentment thing…and the Palin Play is an attempt to catch that same wave. For this strategy, pissing off the media is a feature, not a bug.

I said it in a couple of other places: Obama wowed ‘em in Denver for good reasons…for God’s sake, let more people see that. If you’re running more ads like that just show Obama being Obama(tm), then the smackdowns of McCain’s howlers sound less like bitching, and more like The Voice of Moral Authority (see Reagan, Ronald, ca. 1980). 

And that’s the only thing that’s going to derail the thugs, because half of the undecideds (you know…“morons!”) have already decided that they like Caribou Barbie’s pug little nose and fuck-you attitude. If the rest are still in play, something (someone!!!) that gets them feeling, y’know, wise and noble would be just the ticket.

Comment #11: Captain Goto  on  09/16  at  05:31 PM

Nixon was brilliant (though evil). Palin is a moron. Therein lies the difference.

Comment #12: Ben D.  on  09/16  at  05:53 PM

Following my thought from another thread:  I’m thinking that McCain’s plan all along had been to pick a token VP in response to whomever got the Dem nomination.  A black VP ala Clarence Thomas in the event Hillary had won the nomination, and Sarah Palin if Obama did.

And that’s why Alan Keyes is sobbing in his pillow right now.

Comment #13: Mnemosyne  on  09/16  at  05:55 PM

You’re joking, right Amanda? The mainstream media are complicit and in McCain-Palin’s back pocket? Want to sit in my newsroom for about two seconds? You can’t walk for all the liberal bullshit piling up in every corner of the room. But it is fun to watch everyone harbor more and more fear over the likely November result.

Comment #14: Sugar Ray Republican  on  09/16  at  05:59 PM

You’ll share your cheetoes, right?

Comment #15: Ms Kate  on  09/16  at  06:00 PM

Speaking of lies and the lying liars who tell them, how does this effect Al Franken?

In other words, how is he doing against Norm “My wife is a photoshopped illusion” Coleman?  Has Norm’s old man been able to keep it in his pants in public this time?

Comment #16: Ms Kate  on  09/16  at  06:02 PM

Ms Kate-

They’re tied.

Comment #17: Ben D.  on  09/16  at  06:03 PM

Re: Sugar Ray

I have noticed mild grousing from my Libertarian father that, yeah, McCain is scum, but it’s just ridiculous how much the media fawns over Obama. I expect there’s a couple of things fueling this idea:

1. Obama really does seem to be a nicer, more qualified person than McCain, so anything “nice” that gets reported about Obama doesn’t always have a “and so is McCain!” counter-story to go with it. I think this is much more minor than #2.

2. Selection bias. He’s already going to vote for McCain, so when he sees pro-Obama media, he wonders why McCain is getting the short stick. When he sees pro-McCain media, he doesn’t register it because, yeah, McCain is ok - that’s why he has his vote, after all.

For the record, I think EVERYONE suffers from #2 - when I see pro-Obama coverage, I nod my head and move on; when I see pro-McCain coverage, I think “what a crock” and - what is crucial - I remember it. Not that I’m NOT saying that there aren’t some in the media who have been giving a free pass in the “interest” of “fairness” - just that we all suffer from it. IMO.

Comment #18: Faye  on  09/16  at  06:18 PM

SRR, nobody cares what the staff at Reactionary Idiots Monthly thinks.

Comment #19: Well, what?  on  09/16  at  06:20 PM

Faye -

You have a point, but don’t forget this:

I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty.

Not all of the accusations of media bias are actually a result of our own.

Comment #20: Seraph  on  09/16  at  06:23 PM

Sugar Ray’s line of reasoning is classic. The newsroom is full of liberals, therefore the message that is ultimately broadcast must be liberal too.  I bet even Ray is smart enough to spot the fallacy there.

Comment #21: Cris  on  09/16  at  06:23 PM

But it is fun to watch everyone harbor more and more fear over the likely November result.

You mean like these folks?

Comment #22: Cris  on  09/16  at  06:28 PM

I should also add a #3:

3. Cynicism. He hasn’t said so, but I would imagine that a lot of people expect that Obama is probably “as bad” as McCain (they are both politicians, after all), so they see all this “McCain - Lie #754 Uncovered!” coverage and they wonder why “all the lies” that the Obama campaign MUST be telling aren’t getting reported on.

And, for that matter, #4:

4. Inability to differentiate between Neutral Media and Biased Media. Oprah and The View don’t owe McCain or anyone else an endorsement or a neutral staging ground. They aren’t “the media” in the sense that they report important information without bias. If Oprah wants to run shows about how great Obama is from now until election day, she can, and there’s no real reason for her NOT to (in the sense that she owes McCain equal coverage). And, since a lot of “biased media” showpeople are Hollywood liberals, a lot of them support Obama.

Comment #23: Faye  on  09/16  at  06:29 PM

Seraph,

Sorry, I wasn’t clear - I do take him at his word; I expect that there are plenty of media folks that are/were in McCain’s pocket. I just think that there’s probably a few in Obama’s, too. And I expect that “those types” probably even out over the broad spectrum.

But I could be wrong.

Comment #24: Faye  on  09/16  at  06:31 PM

Actually, I’m inclined to agree with Atrios, who regards Palin’s now embarrassingly obvious inability to contain her compulsion to lie as evidence of a personality disorder.  I’m going with a diagnosis of borderline disorder, with more than a smattering of narcissism.  She may even be on the cusp of sociopathy.  Whatever her problem is, she is publicly manifesting in increasingly bizarre fashion, and she cannot stop herself.

Comment #25: Donna Q  on  09/16  at  06:45 PM

I bet the constant attention is doing nothing but feeding those behaviors, even if Palin would be getting all this attention right now regardless.  Maybe she has done this in the past to get attention, and now fears that attention will disappear?

Comment #26: Ms Kate  on  09/16  at  07:03 PM

3. Cynicism. He hasn’t said so, but I would imagine that a lot of people expect that Obama is probably “as bad” as McCain (they are both politicians, after all), so they see all this “McCain - Lie #754 Uncovered!” coverage and they wonder why “all the lies” that the Obama campaign MUST be telling aren’t getting reported on.

You’re probably right, but I can tell you why: any lies Obama is telling are the usual kind of political lies: i.e. they have some tenuous connection to the truth, enough to provide him with plausible deniability, or at least make it difficult to dig up the evidence that he’s lying.  McCain, on the other hand, is making it easy for the press to prove him a liar: he contradicts known, widely-disseminated facts, even when directly and repeatedly confronted with them.  In other words, he’s lying like a three-year-old, and it’s getting harder and harder for the press to resist that kind of target.

I just think that there’s probably a few in Obama’s, too. And I expect that “those types” probably even out over the broad spectrum.

Hmm.  I’d need to know what you mean by “the broad spectrum”, but off the top of my head, I don’t buy this.  If nothing else, McCain deliberately cultivated his friendship with the press for a long time before he turned on them.

Comment #27: Seraph  on  09/16  at  07:03 PM

Want to sit in my newsroom for about two seconds? You can’t walk for all the liberal bullshit piling up in every corner of the room.

Why is it that all our most cheeto-stained trolls inevitably turn out to have a career (usually an extremely high-ranking one in a prestigious field) in the topic in question?  If it’s about custody law or rape cases, the trolls all just coincidentally happen to be lawyers.  If it’s about conservative bias in the media, the trolls all just coincidentally happen to be news editors. 

What’s with that?  Especially considering the general level of intellect these mouthbreathing ingrates put on display.  I know quite a few journalists, and none of them (even the ones toiling away for local TV affiliates and smalltown papers) are as dumb as the average Republitroll.

Oh, and there are a lot of very obvious ways that both “a lot of journalists are personally liberal” and “the mainstream media has a conservative bias” can both be true.  I’m not going to enumerate them, because it would only be for your benefit (the legitimate pandagonians already understanding such a thing), and you have already shown yourself to be too stupid to understand anything more nuanced than GET A BRAIN MORANS!

Comment #28: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  07:46 PM

OK, just realized my mention of intelligence and small town papers and local TV affiliates might be misconstrued. 

I did not IN ANY WAY intend to imply that such folks are likely to be less intelligent than, say, a reporter for the New York Times.  I just wanted to clarify that when I say I know journalists and they are like X, I’m not necessarily talking about East Coast Liberal Elite types.

That came out totally wrong.  I apologize in advance.

Comment #29: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  07:57 PM

Faye, that sounds like a false dichotomy. Media pundits who like Obama probably loved McCain in 1999-2000, since it seems like all of them did. Even those who’ve mostly changed sides refuse to admit their old hero hasn’t actually changed that much. Back then he would switch positions frequently, and pundits quite literally used this as an example of how principled Saint McCain was.

Comment #30: hf  on  09/16  at  08:54 PM

Am I the only one who got the impression that Sugar Ray just has a room in his house that he refers to as “the newsroom.” Like, maybe the room where the TV is? McCain has a “war room,” you see, and Ray has a “newsroom.”

Comment #31: Jenny Dreadful  on  09/16  at  08:57 PM

I think everyone has missed the point - just because SRRs claims to be in a newsroom doesn’t mean he writes journalism.

He might be their IT guy or he might be, say . .  their janitor.  Or building systems mechanic - I know the Des Moines Register building in Iowa has a team of guys with duct tape keeping that newsroom together.

Comment #32: idiosynchronic  on  09/16  at  09:02 PM

He might be their IT guy or he might be, say . .  their janitor.

It’s the way he said it: “my newsroom”.  I used to work in the bookstore at the Metropolitan Museum.  I never went around casually tossing out things like, “my ancient greek sculpture gallery”, as much as I would have liked to.

Shit, I’m on the crew of a major network TV show, and I’d never say “my set”, or “my cast”.

If his only claim to know what goes on in a newsroom is sweeping the floors in one, he’s a mendacious little twit.

Comment #33: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  09:10 PM

Why is it that all our most cheeto-stained trolls inevitably turn out to have a career (usually an extremely high-ranking one in a prestigious field) in the topic in question?  If it’s about custody law or rape cases, the trolls all just coincidentally happen to be lawyers.  If it’s about conservative bias in the media, the trolls all just coincidentally happen to be news editors.

Whatever do you mean Oppoponax? “Coincidentally”? Are you saying that people who spend all their time typing angry invective at the the liberals in their mind aren’t really the most stable or honest types?

Comment #34: atheist  on  09/16  at  09:23 PM

I think everyone has missed the point - just because SRRs claims to be in a newsroom doesn’t mean he writes journalism.

Let me point out that this is the internet.  SRR can claim to be whatever he wants, but there’s no way of knowing that he isn’t actually a chimp with a keyboard in a medical research lab somewhere.  Or a talking dog with some good speech recognition software.  Or a potted plant.

I can claim to be an Doctor of Mesopotamian History, a Constitutional scholar, and an Olympic athlete, but I wouldn’t expect anyone to believe such a thing when I’m posting behind an obvious pseud with no way to actually back up any of my claims.

(For the record, I’m a potted plant.)

Comment #35: NonyNony  on  09/16  at  11:18 PM

I actually am a chimp with a keyboard. How did you know NonyNony? Was it my sub-human vibe?

Comment #36: atheist  on  09/16  at  11:29 PM

Yesterday I set up a site to get people to laugh at the McCain campaign’s sheer love of lying.  (The press release I have up is modeled after McCain’s press release announcing the creation of the Palin Truth Squad.)

Comment #37: Neil the Ethical Werewolf  on  09/17  at  01:53 AM

”...Doctor of Mesopotamian History, a Constitutional scholar, and an Olympic athlete…”

That’s might impressive for a potted plant.  We’re lucky to have such a talented, um, contributor, here at Pandagon.

I’m actually an AI named Wintermute, but you guys beat the hell out of me in the qualifications dept…

I’ll just put a smiley face here to make me seem more human… smile

Comment #38: MikeEss  on  09/17  at  09:28 AM

“I actually am a chimp with a keyboard. “

So THAT’S where you went, you escaped little bastard!  Come back AT ONCE!  These electrodes for Experiment Einstein08 aren’t going to shock themselves, you little simian shit!  Come back! 
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Pleeeease?  The lab hasn’t been the same without you.  All is forgiven!

Comment #39: seeker6079  on  09/17  at  03:37 PM

Why is it that all our most cheeto-stained trolls inevitably turn out to have a career (usually an extremely high-ranking one in a prestigious field) in the topic in question?  If it’s about custody law or rape cases, the trolls all just coincidentally happen to be lawyers.  If it’s about conservative bias in the media, the trolls all just coincidentally happen to be news editors.

There are squadrons of conservative experts of every stripe, lying in wait for their specialty to be mentioned on a liberal blog. When the moment arises, they leap into action, correcting the misperceptions of the far left. Frequently, they also mention how conservatives are a persecuted minority.

Comment #40: pepito  on  09/17  at  05:37 PM
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