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Limbaugh seems to have it out for his audience

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There’s something kind of awesome about listening to Rush Limbaugh kick and scream like a 4-year-old child being told to eat his spinach instead of shovel cookies into his face.  This entire bit is hilarious, listening to him whine and cry about how terrible and disgusting it is to put OMG actual plant matter in your mouth.  While it’s funny listening to him be a little baby about this, though, there’s more to be concerned about here.  Limbaugh has taken to suggesting that the advice to eat fruits and vegetables (and to exercise) is conspiracy organized by scientists that are hiding the truth, for nefarious purposes.  It’s hard not to wonder if he’s trying to kill his listeners by ranting at them about how their diet should be nothing but junk food and their physical activity levels shouldn’t exceed picking up the remote control and pressing buttons.

He cites an article in the Daily Mail that said the fruits and veggies thing is a myth. Here’s a general rule of thumb to follow: the Daily Mail is not a reliable news source.  This goes double for anything with a whiff of gender anxiety to it, and certainly the hardcore wingnut press against fruit and veggies has more than a whiff of gender anxiety to it, in the same way anti-cat ranting often does, because plant-based food (and cats) are coded feminine. 

Indeed, the story from the Daily Mail is some fucked-up science reporting. The study they cite shows that people who ate 8 more more servings of fruit or vegetables a day and a 22% lower chance of dying of heart disease.  The Daily Mail glides right past this, though, denying that it had any real effect at all, and then claiming that the advice to eat fruit and veggies is a corporate scheme cooked up to sell more product., as if the far more extensive marketing push to get people to eat more fat and animal products didn’t exist.  When you actually run a search for more reliable reporting on this study, you find that it tells a far different story than the Daily Mail claims:

Even among those who couldn’t manage the eight servings, more fruits and veggies consistently meant a lower risk; for every additional serving above two per day, researchers observed a four percent decrease in the rate of heart disease deaths.

Oh, and this:

“This is probably the largest study of its type and should convince even the greatest skeptic of the value of fruits and veggies,” said Dr. Randall Zusman, director of the division of hypertension at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Part of it probably has to do with the fact that eating more fruit and vegetables often means eating less of the bad stuff, of course, but that doesn’t negate the results of this study, as much as Limbaugh and the Daily Mail would like to believe it does.

What makes this entire rant of Limbaugh’s even weirder is that he then references the recent passing of fitness guru Jack LaLane as “proof” that eating right and exercise don’t have any good health benefits. Problem with this is that Jack LaLane was 96 years old.  Granted, reading LaLanne’s profile, I have to say the man took it way too far—-eating is one of the most consistent pleasures that people get and his advice not to enjoy your food is just not really sustainable or life-affirming—-but that’s beside the point. As are some of the unscientific claims he made.  The point is that you don’t do much better than 96, in terms of longevity, and he was working out until close to the end, which is basically about as much as any of us could ever hope from life.  One man’s life and death isn’t really proof for or against the health claims about exercise and vegetables—-what matters is the aggregate data, which points to the benefits of a healthy diet—-but it’s weird to point to someone who basically lived the most extreme promises successfully.  As far as I know, no one has ever promised immortality.  Plus, there’s more to health than just mortality rates; there’s also questions about quality of life, which nutrition can dramatically affect as you age.  Diabetes, heart disease, and mobility problems are all manageable under modern health care, but I dare say the people who have these problems would probably have a lot less trouble, expense, and stress in their life if they didn’t have to deal with these problems.  And nutrition and exercise can be preventive in many cases.

My feeling about this is that one of Limbaugh’s talents is to take his own psychological issues and to project them out into political rants that rationalize himself to himself, and this tends to work because a lot of what makes him such a pathetic figure affects members of his audience.  See the post I wrote earlier about this, and how resentment and self-delusion are major components of right wing fantasies. It’s incredibly depressing, because it indicates that hopelessness is fueling this mad dash to the right the country is taking.  There’s a giving up quality to this rant, and to others from Limbaugh.  Discouraging people from trying to take care of their health?  Lying to people about the benefits of prevention?  He’s basically trying to convince you that it’s all futile and you should just give up even trying to care about yourself or your family.  Which, in turn, just encourages more resentment and more lashing out at the “liberal elite”, who are increasingly set up as envy/hatred objects for many reasons, but now including for eating vegetables and walking around.  It’s depressing as hell, so much so that it makes me actually long for the irritatingly bright “go girl” mentality of someone like Oprah Winfrey.  Isn’t there much of a middle ground anymore, between giving up before you even try and this sort of over-privileged earnestness that doesn’t acknowledge that there are some things out of control?  Can’t there be a muted optimism that acknowledges the structural problems and the reality of bad luck, but suggests we should try to do better as a society anyway? 

Appropriate for this occasion:


FDA Official: “Just Eat A Goddamn Vegetable”

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 04:23 PM • (77) Comments

I guess Rush feels that his deal with Satan has him covered. As long as Rush keeps delivering on the lies and evil, why shouldn’t he be allowed to live til 100?

And just in case Ol’ Scratch is up to his usual tricks, Rush is probably hedging with a rolling supply of 25-year-old male production assistants who he provides with free gym memberships and unlimited expense accounts at Whole Foods. You know, for the full-body transplant.

Comment #1: Gracchus.  on  01/27  at  05:39 PM

You’ve noticed in the past that increasingly conservatives reflexively are against anything that liberals are for. It’s an amazing thing to see. Perhaps we should try an experiment: pick something that we want and then loudly speak against it to see what happens (it should, of course, be something we don’t care about much).

Comment #2: JohnL  on  01/27  at  05:46 PM

“muted optimism”
Sorry, but not-over-the-top is un-American. Trying to acknowledge that life isn’t one or the other will just get you plastered by the simpletons who’re looking for the short answer for everything.

Comment #3: Wareq  on  01/27  at  06:04 PM

I love the simplicity of his argument.

“Look at Teddy Roosevelt, he grew a mustache, and look what happened to him; he died.”
“Abraham Lincoln spent all his time breathing, and look what happened to him; he died.”

Is there anything that this argument can’t be applied to?

Comment #4: BenYitzhak  on  01/27  at  06:13 PM

And if there’s anyone who’d know about parasites, it’s a Limbaugh fan.

Comment #5: Scott  on  01/27  at  06:20 PM

I’m curious, did he ever leave NYC over taxes like he threatened to?

Comment #6: Ben D.  on  01/27  at  06:37 PM

That Daily Mail article is pretty much the definition of “a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.”

Even a quick look on wiki would have told this poor fella that fibre has many health benefits as it regulates the way we absorb food and nutrients. It lowers risks for a whole lot of bad, including high cholesterol, heart disease and diabetes.

Also the fruit = bad because OMG fructose! Again, if he bothered to take a look at what fibre actually does, he would know that fibre reduces the amount of sugar that get dumped into the liver, reducing “spillage” into the blood stream, and stopping damage to your liver. Fruit is healthy because the fibre counteracts the sugar; fruit juice, not so much. Similarly, preventing the flood of sugar is one of the reasons whole grains are better than refined.

Although this dietary fibre hatred, I think this must be what attracted Limbaugh to the article. He scorns fibre as it must be harder to raise up that indignant rage if one is not suffering from chronic constipation.

Comment #7: hypatia  on  01/27  at  06:38 PM

I had a slightly different take. I give ol’ Rush enough credit to know that this particular argument is straight bullshit. But he also realizes that a) it might piss of liberals and that’s what his fans live for and b) if he keeps his fans eating crap and not exercising their brains could become even more starved than they currently are for oxygen. Oxygen might let facts, rational thinking, and other things that those awful liberals think are important seep into their brains. Then where would he be?

Comment #8: serious bette  on  01/27  at  06:40 PM

On the other hand, he never mentions (and is probably not even aware of) your blog.

Wrong again, numbnuts. Limbaugh had plenty to say about Amanda (and Melissa McEwan) during the great John Edwards Cusstastrophe.

To be sure, though, nobody of importance has ever had anything to say about you.

Comment #9: Well, what?  on  01/27  at  06:50 PM

“You know who first started spreading the so-called “scientific theory” about scurvy?  The British Navy, that’s who!  When they were fighting to enslave America!”

Comment #10: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  01/27  at  06:51 PM

Even a quick look on wiki would have told this poor fella that fibre has many health benefits

If you eat enough fiber it is hard to be full of shit.

Comment #11: James  on  01/27  at  07:18 PM

Heh, that makes you, Blau, a parasite of a parasite by your estimation.  What a sad thing to be.

Comment #12: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/27  at  07:19 PM

he has achieved what he wanted to achieve on Liberal blogs like this—he has gotten you guys to waste your time by addressing what he says.

What he wants to achieve is to sell advertising time on his show at ever increasing rates.

Comment #13: Tyro  on  01/27  at  07:21 PM

Thread-jacking and hate speech!  Done now.

Comment #14: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/27  at  07:22 PM

“I think greatness and success is partly determined by who is talking about whom.”

Interesting that you’ve got some sort of misguided allegiance to Rush Hudson Limbaugh III - Professional Asshole.  It looks like Limbaugh’s on the downhill slide into irrelevancy.

Glenn Beck’s taking over the ranting-wingnut-political-entertainer-Howard-Beale-mad-prophet-of-the-airwaves slot for many Americans.  He’s clicked particularly well with the Teabaggers, many of who feel he’s some sort of (twisted) educator.  And there’s no way Limbaugh can out-crazy The Beckmeister General. 

The only thing Limbaugh’s audience gets is the vague feeling they’ve wasted several hours they’ll never get back and a headache from listening to reams of stupid commercials.

There are a lot of former DittoHeads who’ve become ardent BeckerNecks. 

You’re not in with the In Crowd anymore, mister The-St0rmFr0nt-guys-think-my-German-handle-is-cool, I’m-a-cop-I-swear-it’s-true!, It’s-a-magazine-not-a-clip-you-dirty-hippie-liberal…

Comment #15: MikeEss  on  01/27  at  07:25 PM

Please ignore trolls.  I will clean up as fast as I can, but don’t give them the attention they desperately crave.  Apologies for my contribution.

Comment #16: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/27  at  07:48 PM

The question is: if Rushbo is trying to kill off his moronic fanbase, should we even make any effort to slow him down?

The faster those mouthbreathing fuckwads have a coronary in their barcaloungers, the happier I’ll be.  Hopefully massive, fatal coronaries: I know they’d just hate to be a burden on the ‘healthcare system’.

Comment #17: Eric_RoM  on  01/27  at  07:54 PM

the Daily Mail is not a <strike>reliable</strike> news source.

There, fixed that for you.

It really isn’t. It’s a right wing fantasy of the 1950s, through a patriarchal upper-class lens of paranoia.

As for Limbaugh, isn’t his audience the same kind of people that are praying for a quick end to the world through firey apocalypse. So that we can send the heathens to hell and have a xtian utopia? Surely anything that sends themselves off to heaven quicker is a good thing for them? Bring on the steak and cheese with bacon topping.

Comment #18: Akheloios  on  01/27  at  07:59 PM

I meant that they, the Limbaugh listeners, desire ever increasing amount of steak and cheese with bacon topping. I wish no harm to come to our statistically challenged brethren.

I too like steak, cheese and bacon, only in less suicidal amounts.

Comment #19: Akheloios  on  01/27  at  08:09 PM

One of the more outrageous aspects is that Rush has lost a LOT of weight in recent years, pretty much proving that his rant is total bullshit.

Comment #20: Mark Temporis  on  01/27  at  08:40 PM

Limbaugh just turned 60.  He’s not exactly in the prime of his youth.  If he thinks there’s some magic number Clear Channel can pay him to keep his heart beating, he’s in for a sad shock.  Honestly, I’m all for watching Rushy-bear keep jamming steaks down his gullet.  Maybe he, Cheney, and Ailes can all go belly up the same week.  They say famous people always die in threes.

Comment #21: Zifnab25  on  01/27  at  08:50 PM

One of the more outrageous aspects is that Rush has lost a LOT of weight in recent years, pretty much proving that his rant is total bullshit.

He lost that weight using the best technology money could buy.
If you think Rush joined Jenny Craig, you’re out of your freak’n mind.

Comment #22: Zifnab25  on  01/27  at  08:52 PM

Bring on the steak and cheese with bacon topping.

And hey, a bonus; all those silly Jews/Muslims/Hindus/etc. wouldn’t touch that shit with a ten-foot pole! So I guess only the Christians get to go to heaven quickly. Score!

Comment #23: Bagelsan  on  01/27  at  08:55 PM

How incredibly pathetic. 

Also, Jack LaLane was not a vegetarian, though he did limit his meat intake mostly to small amounts of fish or chicken.  He was a health food and exercise nut, and as a result he was fitter at 80 than most guys are at 20.  At age 54 he whipped a 21 year old Mr. Universe named Arnold in a fitness contest.  But I guess none of that matters since he lived to be only 96, a pathetically short life for a human male…

Comment #24: Sjt  on  01/27  at  09:00 PM

Things have certainly gotten bad when you begin to hope that people like Rush Limbaugh are actively lying, instead of just completely nuts.  The whole obsession with resisting healthy eating habits among the right wing completely baffles me.  They’re completely impervious to facts, evidence, and logic.  Certainly the misogyny angle, with men being hunters and women being gatherers, plays into, although I’m not sure to what degree wingnuts like Rush actually recognize that fact (regardless of the fact that they probably think misogyny doesn’t even exist, or that if it does it’s totally justified).  In addition, I feel like this piece by Greta Christina over at AlterNet is pretty relevant to this story.  Perhaps, Rush and company have just bought into the marketing wholesale.

Comment #25: progrocker  on  01/27  at  10:19 PM

The issue isn’t that Americans are running to the right.  It’s just that the left is under such giant buttocks of Villagers such that it’s impossible to organize coherently outside of our class.  Same dealio in other places with nominally free press—the right gets all the noisemakers and the left is barely tolerated (and anyone more successful has something more permanent done to her).

The depressing aspect for me is that there are huge problems, and Villagers apparently have the attitude that such problems are ideological and can be stopped with strong beliefs in St Ronnie.

Comment #26: shah8  on  01/27  at  10:23 PM

I still can’t get over that the dude was 96 fucking years old and Rush uses this to prove that somehow nutrition and exercise are bad.  We live in a world where Keith gets fired and this dumb dildo stays on the air.

And he has the balls to accuse others of shoving vitamins in their mouths.  At least their not shoving Oxy Contin in their mouths!

Comment #27: Albert Cirrus  on  01/27  at  10:25 PM

Albert, please don’t call Rush a dildo, dildos are very useful and fun.

Comment #28: kitten parade  on  01/27  at  10:43 PM

And if there’s anyone who’d know about parasites, it’s a Limbaugh fan.

Hey! Don’t insult parasites like that.

Comment #29: Entomologista  on  01/27  at  10:52 PM

Albert, please don’t call Rush a dildo, dildos are very useful and fun.

And dildoes don’t have to pay for entry…

Comment #30: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  01/28  at  01:01 AM

I apologize if I offend you, but Rush is still a dildo.  A BAD dildo, but still a dildo. grin

Comment #31: Albert Cirrus  on  01/28  at  02:03 AM

Will no one defend the honour of teh humble dildo?

I mean, I would, but I don’t like getting my hands sticky.

Comment #32: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  01/28  at  02:24 AM

Rush Limbaugh is not a dildo, but his head is a bloated colostomy bag with a big gaping mouth-shaped hole, evidenced by the putrid runny fecal matter that comes pouring out of it every time he exerts pressure through the aforementioned mouthhole.

I want to throw a shoe at the television everytime I see that smug POS asshole’s face on it. Fuck that guy, I hope he gets run over by a bus, and I don’t mean that in a hyperbolic sense. The dude literally gets off on taunting and shitting on the most powerless and disenfranchised members of society, and for that, he is a monster who makes this world a worse place to live.

I don’t want anybody to bring harm to him (mainly because he would become a martyr), but should he ever find himself in a moment of oxycontin-fueled desperation and panic and he begins to contemplate suicide, I really hope he goes through with it. Killing himself would be the most charitable thing someone like him could possibly do in closing the book on his otherwise completely uncharitable life.

Did I mention how much I really despise the man?

Comment #33: DTGslu2K  on  01/28  at  04:45 AM

Zoe Harcombe wrote that Daily Mail article.  Her webpage says dismissively of obesity specialists:

At the other end of the spectrum, the people specialising in obesity are studying things like “TCB1 Antagonism Exerts Specific Molecular Effects on Visceral and Subcutaneous Fat and Reverses Liver Steatosis in Diet-Induced Obese Mice“. This little gem appeared in Diabetes, April 2010 – so I didn’t have to go back far to see what obesity specialists are spending their time doing!

Apparently she thinks she’s more qualified than obesity specialists because she doesn’t waste her time with science and all its big words and studies and empirical data and stuff.  It’s no surprise that she had no idea what conclusions to draw from the study in the Daily Mail article.

Comment #34: Neil the Ethical Werewolf  on  01/28  at  07:02 AM

How does he not get cognitive dissonance from arguing “You can’t trust the media, except for this reactionary tabloid”? (Don’t answer that)

I strongly doubt that any reputable health authority has recommended laxatives as part of a standard balanced diet.

Comment #35: Andrew_F  on  01/28  at  07:43 AM

The sooner Rush Limbaugh eats himself into a heart attack to spite Michelle Obama, the better, as far as I’m concerned.

Comment #36: katydid  on  01/28  at  09:45 AM

Andrew_F, haven’t you heard of the Atkins diet?  There is a health authority who recommends only eating meats AND laxatives for if you can’t poo.  Fiber is for suckers!

Comment #37: speedbudget  on  01/28  at  10:18 AM

The conservative war on veggies probably has a lot to do with Michelle Obama and her health project, whenever I talk to a conservatives or older white women I am amazed how much they seem to hate Michelle Obama and at least part of this rant seems to appeal to that crowd.

Plus, it doesn’t hurt that food companies make a lot more money off processed food than off veggies so I am sure the sponsors are happy.

Comment #38: John Rove  on  01/28  at  11:00 AM

Interesting that the Daily Mail article isn’t even down on all veggies; recommends dark leafy greens like broccoli and spinach. And sunflower seeds, oats, and cocoa.  If you pay close attention, you start to see that there’s a consensus on a few things, hidden behind the hype and controversy.

And there’s a line buried in the middle of the story about avoiding sugar, processed foods, and smoking.  The Platonic Ideal version of this article is a reminder that while there are a lot of things that *might* make our lives a *little* better, most people don’t have time for that, and if you take care of the few most important things you will probably be just fine.

Comment #39: Benquo  on  01/28  at  11:17 AM

The old joke about the Dail Mail is that everything in the world with either save your life, or kill you (usually via the medium of cancer).  So look a few days back and you’ll probably find that merely taking a sniff of the latest “superfood” will cure cancer as well as solving that irritating impotence problem.

Today, vegetables won’t save you.  Tomorrow they will.  It’s the Daily Mail way.

Comment #40: Katherine  on  01/28  at  11:18 AM

Wow, really?  He is literally throwing a tantrum about eating vegetables.  Can our society please stop pretending that conservatives are anything more than a bunch of tantrum-throwing toddlers?  I mean, he is literally ranting about vegetables, and people still take him seriously?  Maybe my 3 year-old nieces should get a radio show, if this is the kind of crap that passes for journalism.

Comment #41: bananacat  on  01/28  at  11:20 AM

“I apologize if I offend you, but Rush is still a dildo.  A BAD dildo, but still a dildo.”

Srsly, dude?

“The conservative war on veggies probably has a lot to do with Michelle Obama and her health project, whenever I talk to a conservatives or older white women I am amazed how much they seem to hate Michelle Obama and at least part of this rant seems to appeal to that crowd.”

I wonder if we’re ever going to get to a point where a pretty, successful, happy-seeming black lady asking people to please eat their vegetables and maybe go for a walk once in a while isn’t going to provoke a reaction more appropriate to a giant, radioactive, lightning-breathing lizard emerging from the ocean to stomp on a metropolis.

Comment #42: preying mantis  on  01/28  at  11:59 AM

I have to admit that the Jack Lalanne thing is hysterical, but this just convinces me that I have always been on to conservatives - they seriously don’t believe they’re going to die.

During the bush years at the height of the “Murder them all, just keep me safe” hysteria, I finally realized that if Americans would just understand one simple fact, this would be a much better country.  And that simple fact is:  You are going to die.

Comment #43: Daisy  on  01/28  at  12:14 PM

The conservative war on veggies probably has a lot to do with Michelle Obama and her health project, whenever I talk to a conservatives or older white women I am amazed how much they seem to hate Michelle Obama and at least part of this rant seems to appeal to that crowd.

The FLOTUS is a triple whammy: a Democrat, an accomplished uppity blackity-black woman and a liberal do-gooder who’s going to personally smack the cheeseburger out of your hand and force you to eat rabbit food, which is equivalent to castration as far as Limbaugh is concerned.

It’s no secret that Rush is a raging ball of anxious masculinity, but he’s really flying the self-parody flag here.

Comment #44: Sour Kraut  on  01/28  at  12:17 PM

Yes srsly.  A dildo in the metaphorical sense; ie he is fake, wobbles around (when he makes fun of Michael J Fox), and fucks with our brains.  His followers are even called “Dildoheads.” grin

Comment #45: Albert Cirrus  on  01/28  at  12:19 PM

Andrew_F, haven’t you heard of the Atkins diet?  There is a health authority who recommends only eating meats AND laxatives for if you can’t poo.  Fiber is for suckers!

Comment #37: speedbudget

Stop reading the Cliffnotes.  Atkins is much more holistic than your flippant bumper-sticker analysis.
And no, I’m not on the Atkins diet, I just hate seeing haters hate out of ignorance.

Comment #46: cynickal  on  01/28  at  12:20 PM

The last post was in response to Comment #42: preying mantis.

Comment #47: Albert Cirrus  on  01/28  at  12:21 PM

The conservative war on veggies probably has a lot to do with Michelle Obama and her health project, whenever I talk to a conservatives or older white women I am amazed how much they seem to hate Michelle Obama and at least part of this rant seems to appeal to that crowd.

This.

Some of the most mean-spirited racist comments I’ve seen directed at the White House have been directed specifically at Michelle Obama, and I can’t conceive of any reason why they would be doing this except for the fact that she’s a black woman - and unlike her husband, a direct descendent of African-American slaves.

She’s chosen what should be two of the least controversial issues imagineable to address as First Lady, childhood obesity and expanding support for military families. EXPANDING SUPPORT FOR MILITARY FAMILIES, for fuck’s sake!! Isn’t that something those douchebags claim to be in favor of with their cheesy yellow magnet ribbons on their Chevy Tahoes?

The racist wingnuts seem to hate her even more than her husband, because she grew up in a working class African-American home in an African-American neighborhood and really experienced the culture of oppression for African-Americans in a more traditional sense than did her husband. This is not to say that President Obama didn’t experience racism in his youth; I’m quite certain he did. But he did not experience life growing up in a highly segregated inner city neighborhood, where the effects of institutional racism can be seen everywhere you look.

Back to the main point, I’m truly horrified by what racist troglodytes so many upper-middle conservative white Americans have revealed themselves to be since Obama took office. They really hate her, and for no other reason than the fact that she is a proud and intelligent black woman. When they see her, all they can think to themselves is, “How dare that woman be so uppity as to live in OUR White House!!”

Her only “crime” is being FLOTUSWB.

Comment #48: DTGslu2K  on  01/28  at  12:23 PM

“Yes srsly.  A dildo in the metaphorical sense; ie he is fake, wobbles around (when he makes fun of Michael J Fox), and fucks with our brains.  His followers are even called “Dildoheads.””

Weakest justification evar.

Comment #49: preying mantis  on  01/28  at  12:27 PM

I think colostomy bag might be a better metaphore for Rush, although I hate to insult colostomy bags like that.  I don’t know if there is anything in the world that deserves to be compared to Rush Limbaugh.  Even steaming piles of poo are more appealing

Comment #50: John Rove  on  01/28  at  12:29 PM

That was intended mostly as a joke.

How about Rush is the “Pills-bury Dildo.”  He’s really white, pushes fattening food, and buries pills in his mouth.  Rush can also be the “GOPiate of the masses.”  I have a million of these.

Comment #51: Albert Cirrus  on  01/28  at  12:34 PM

Rush is doing this mostly because liberals like to suggest that people should have more healthy diets.  Therefore if you’re a conservative you should eat like a pig in a trough.  Liberals suggest that science says eating vegetables and fruit is healthy, well, then if you’re a conservative you should eat nothing but meat and cheese. 

That’s pretty much it, though there’s also the corporate connection - food producers who make crap make more money than people who grow fresh produce.  Farmers that listen to Rush are more likely to be raising cattle or selling wheat or corn to food manufacturers like Cargill than they are to be growing vegetables.  So Rush is also playing into the biases of his listeners “Those libs want to shut you down because they hate who you are and what you do.  See cattle ranchers - they want people to stop eating meat.  See wheat farmers - they want people to buy less Wonder bread, which will put you out of business.”  The more he can reinforce the stereotypes of his tribe the better his advertising base is.

speedbudget -

Andrew_F, haven’t you heard of the Atkins diet?  There is a health authority who recommends only eating meats AND laxatives for if you can’t poo.  Fiber is for suckers!

Not get get all jump down your throat, but you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.  I’m not an Atkins person (wrong kind of diet for my body and my personality), but it isn’t a cartoon caricature.  It’s designed for people who can’t lose weight on a low-fat diet because their hunger cravings get to them and they eat more than they should - sometimes without realizing it.  The point of Atkins is to make sure that the person who is eating feels full enough on what they’re eating so they don’t eat beyond the calories they need and gain weight.  For that you need fat - and low-fat high carb diets aren’t going to cut it.  For some people it’s the right thing to do.  For others (like me) it’s completely wrong.  But everyone is different and everyone needs to figure out what works best for them.

Comment #52: NonyNony  on  01/28  at  12:52 PM

2+2=5.

But if his diet gets him off the air sooner, more power to us.

Comment #53: dustbunny44  on  01/28  at  01:13 PM

If you don’t stop comparing Limbaugh to a dildo, then I will never be able to use mine without picturing his face and immediately losing my desire.  And if you take away the fun of masturbation for me, I will never forgive you.

Comment #54: bananacat  on  01/28  at  01:49 PM

Didn’t Atkins drop dead at age 70 or something? Well, actually it was an accident and he suffered some kind of traumatic head injury IIRC. But, following Limbaugh’s logic, that was probably a sign his diet was wrong. If he had eaten more carrots and beans, his eyesight would have helped him see that slippery patch of ice. Jack LaLanne was a health fanatic; few people could hold to a routine like that for 80 years. But he clearly loved life, felt great, and had a blast doing what he did, so Limbaugh can take a 96-inch long stick and sit on it. Apparently that’s not too long.

Also, re: Atkins—while the initial phase of the Atkins diet cuts out virtually all carbs and lets you eat high-fat stuff (to curb hunger), in the subsequent phases, you dial that back, add certain carbs back in and Atkins emphasized that low-starch, leafy greens in particular (kale, spinach, collards, etc.) were essential. What you end up with is a fairly straight-up decent diet: lean proteins (meat, nuts, cheese), leafy greens for vitamins and fiber, and a few whole grain carb sources. That’s basically what I eat, save for the occasional pasta dinner, which I absolutely could not live without.

Comment #55: jonas  on  01/28  at  02:10 PM

Seriously?  He’s anti-fruits and vegetables?

What’s next?  Will he come out against toothbrushing?  How about having to clean your room? 

This is hilarious.

Comment #56: blondie  on  01/28  at  02:15 PM

praying mantis, get the fuck over it.

Comment #57: Eric_RoM  on  01/28  at  03:05 PM

If you’re not sure why a wingnut says something, always look into projection. They think everyone should be forced to do the things they think are good, so it doesn’t occur to them that liberals don’t.

Comment #58: ScottK  on  01/28  at  03:21 PM

#54

Lol!

Comment #59: Albert Cirrus  on  01/28  at  03:29 PM

catgirl@54: I’m with you on that. I already get enough stomach-churning visuals designed to destroy my homoerotic masturbation fantasies from seeing pictures of Rush sucking on his fat, smelly cigars… If you guys and gals now destroy my enjoyment of dildos, there will be hell to pay.

Comment #60: BlackBloc  on  01/28  at  03:31 PM

what catgirl said

Comment #61: kitten parade  on  01/28  at  03:31 PM

Also, is it just me or were Rush and Karl Rove born from the same clone batch? (From whichever biotech facility that mass-produces these right-wing demagogues.)

Comment #62: BlackBloc  on  01/28  at  03:33 PM

“praying mantis, get the fuck over it.”

Oh, go to hell, Eric.  A feminist website is one of the few places one can reasonably expect insults based solely on lady parts and contact therewith being gross not to fly.

Comment #63: preying mantis  on  01/28  at  03:52 PM

If you don’t stop comparing Limbaugh to a dildo, then I will never be able to use mine without picturing his face and immediately losing my desire.  And if you take away the fun of masturbation for me, I will never forgive you.

Yes, but we will have saved you from the sin of self-pollution for the love of the Baby Jesus.

catgirl@54: I’m with you on that. I already get enough stomach-churning visuals designed to destroy my homoerotic masturbation fantasies from seeing pictures of Rush sucking on his fat, smelly cigars…

His face hovering between your lefs, his cigar getting closer and closer to…

Oh, hell, I may have screwed up my own sexual imagery now.  SCARLETTJOHANNSONINABUBBLEBATH SCARLETTJOHANNSONINABUBBLEBATH SCARLETTJOHANNSONINABUBBLEBATH.  Bugger.

Comment #64: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  01/28  at  04:39 PM

Seeing as Ms. Johansson didn’t get you into this mess, I don’t know that she’s going to be able to get you out of it.

Comment #65: preying mantis  on  01/28  at  04:54 PM

One of the more outrageous aspects is that Rush has lost a LOT of weight in recent years, pretty much proving that his rant is total bullshit.

This makes no sense. People lose weigh without increasing their fruit and vegetable intake all the time, and people lose weight without getting healthier all the time too. There’s a zillion reasons for weight loss.

Comment #66: kristin  on  01/28  at  07:10 PM

Rush lost some weight (back in the mid-2000s) but he has put it all back on again, at least to my eyes. Plus maybe some extra.

He didn’t do it by eating fruit and veg, he followed the atkins diet.

Comment #67: ammonoid  on  01/28  at  09:06 PM

Honestly, if someone called Limbaugh a dick, I wouldn’t be like “I will see his face every time (well you get the picture).”  It’s just a figure of speech, Limbaugh is just a big stupid dildo and if you don’t like it, we will have to agree to disagree.

Comment #68: Albert Cirrus  on  01/28  at  09:46 PM

He is literally throwing a tantrum about eating vegetables.

As a kid I only knew spinach in cans. When I reached adulthood I widened my scope of ideas, learned better, and now I love spinach.

I’d love to wish into existence the actual tale of a young Rusty Limbaugh being made to eat spinach against his will; it would explain a lot of things about what seems to be a bad case of arrested development.

PS The media is covering up LaLanne’s real cause of death: He was run over by 96 rowboats after swim-towing them across a lake.

Comment #69: ThresherK  on  01/28  at  09:53 PM

Seriously, as someone who has actually followed the actual Atkins diet, not as it is reported in the media, but the real thing, it’s impossible to follow it without eating your veg.  It’s a required part of the diet.  Sure, you can eat as much meat as you want, but you have daily requirements for how much leafy green veg must be eaten to be following the diet.  It does cut out carbs, yes, and allows you to eat meat whenever, but veg is an extremely important part of actually following the actual diet, so if you’re not eating veggies, you’re not following Atkins.

Comment #70: Mimi  on  01/28  at  11:29 PM

I wonder how many people have tried Atkins and misinterpreted it as “eat only meat” and they ended up with really bad health problems.  I would like to research that because there are enough stupid people in the country to have one do that.

Comment #71: Albert Cirrus  on  01/29  at  12:52 AM

As a kid I only knew spinach in cans. When I reached adulthood I widened my scope of ideas, learned better, and now I love spinach.

When I was a kid, I knew spinach as something I had to hoe the weeds away from in the garden (among a lot of other things).  When I reached adulthood, I found out you could get in cans, and it tasted even worse. I still hate spinach. smile

Comment #72: JCfromNC  on  01/29  at  02:35 AM

Albert, you just keep digging a bigger and bigger hole with this whole dildo thing. You need to realize that sometimes, things that you think are funny, and seem totally justified to you, just aren’t. It took me a while to realize that calling the Minnesota Vikings the Viqueens was actually offensive, both to women and gay men. And even though I like making fun of the Vikings (I’m a major Packer fan), I had to just let it go.

So sure, we can agree to disagree, but you’re not looking very good to a lot of the readers here. If you’re fine with that, then so be it, we can be fine with it too, after all, we deal with this shit quite a bit anyway. (and yes, now that you bring it up, calling someone a dick is problematic as well)

On a different note, yes, I am waiting for Rush to keel over. I blame him for the destruction of my country, but mostly, for the destruction of my father’s brain. He’s had a steady diet of Rush since the ‘92 election, and it has made him an angry conspiracy theorist. Last Christmas, he blew me away by coming back at my statement that Bush started with a surplus, then turned it into a huge debt with this idea that the CBO just “makes up numbers” to suit the outgoing party, which doesn’t even make sense by his own logic.

That’s probably the most frustrating thing in my entire life (my father’s descent into idiocy), but this rant makes me wonder. My father works with farmers (dairy and beef cattle farmers), has some cattle of his own, and always had a vegetable garden. My mother jokes in the summer that it is the only time my dad eats vegetarian, because for one month in August, my mom and dad have so many vegetables that they only eat vegetables for dinner. It started back in the late 90’s, when my dad freaked out at us for cooking spaghetti with meat sauce while we had all these rile vegetables from the garden.

Comment #73: Ursula  on  01/29  at  07:07 PM

Ursula, Rush and Glenn Beck have done a real number on my father-in-law, too. He used to just be a scared old angry ignorant white dude, but now that he’s joined the Tea Party, he’s a scared old angry ignorant white dude ON A MISSION.

He sent us 4 copies of “The Five Thousand Year Leap” a couple of weeks ago with a form letter attached apologizing for not being a better father, but now he sees the light and will devote the rest of his life to “taking his country back for his children and grandchildren.” He also sent us a couple dozen pamphlets containing the Constitution.

My husband, who mostly stays out of politics, became terrified that his dad had lost his mind and wanted to call the director of the retirement community where his parents live to do a wellness check. I told him he could do that, but clearly he’s just been listening too hard to right wing radio and not to bother.

Comment #74: flea  on  01/29  at  09:06 PM

Teabaggers = televangelists and their victims.

Comment #75: Punditus Maximus  on  01/31  at  12:34 AM

It took me all weekend, but I finally remembered who it is that’s always referring to anyone/thing he doesn’t like as a dildo - Skwisgaar Skwigelf, from Metalocalypse.  Was a terrible brain-worm.

But, yeah, using dildo as a general insult is that it’s like referring to someone as an unrepentant chocolate.  How is that an insult?  I can only see it as an insult in reference to someone who is very good for providing sexual relief, but nothing else.  And “only useful to relieve sexual tension,” I dare you to find a single person on the planet who thinks of Rush as only being good for a fuck.  Appearance completely notwithstanding, there’s no way he’d shut up during sex, people who like to hear him talk already think he’s good for that, people who don’t probably are so repulsed by the sound of his voice, they wouldn’t be thinking that he’d be good for a lay.

And I’m pretty sure any dildo ever manufactured would be better at relieving sexual tension than Rush - being self-centered is such a major part of his persona, and that just isn’t a good thing in a partner.  A piece of plastic that ignores the world until moved by someone is way more responsive to others than Rush ever will be.

Comment #76: Djinna  on  01/31  at  09:30 PM
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