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Mad Men Tuesdays: Sally Draper, Feminist Hero Edition

Spoilers.

Quadmoniker didn’t like Ida Blankenship’s death, suggesting it was a cheap shot to serve as the show’s conflict.  I suppose it’s going to surprise no one to say that I disagree.  Not with the general principle, of course, but I don’t think the death really served as a conflict point.  If anything, it was like the vending machine bit in last week’s episode—-a comic subplot that, as comic subplots are supposed to do, echoed the larger themes of the episode and the season while providing laughs.  I know it was a dark piece of comedy, but it was nonetheless played for laughs.  Ida Blankenship died how she lived (on the show): as comic relief.  Sadly, I fear that the end of Blankenship will become a pivot for the show, like the birth episode last season was: an idle moment of life happening before shit hits the fan.  We’ll see.

If Blankenship’s death was a comic subplot, the question is, what purpose did it serve?  Well, I think that’s obvious in an episode that focused on four—-count ‘em, four!—-important female characters who have, for various reasons, found themselves stepping on a path that is different than the narrow one prescribed for women at the time.  The point of the episode is that stepping off the beaten path isn’t easy, especially when you feel alone.  That’s the reason the final shot was on the three women in the elevator, staring into different directions and not speaking.  Their pain, their lovesickness, their confusion—-all this would be relieved if they actually turned to each other, but they don’t.  In case you don’t get what’s stopping them, you have Peggy’s sexy if overbearing new love interest naming it for you.  The idea of a “civil rights march” for women still seems ridiculous.  They gather around in horror and awe as Sally Draper throws a massive temper tantrum because she doesn’t want to do as she’s told.  But haven’t Joan, Peggy, and Faye all thrown temper tantrums of their own?  They don’t want to go live with sad Stepford families in the suburbs. They want to live in the city!  But because they have no community or marches or leaders naming their problem, they just stare into space, wondering why they can’t resolve these internal conflicts between what they’re supposed to want and what they do want. 

Which brings me to Ida Blankenship.  I think the initial read is that Blankenship’s death makes everyone sad because they feel like she didn’t really have a good life.  Like Roger said, she died how she lived, answering other people’s phone calls.  (The indifference of the Young Turks only makes the concerns of the older people more poignant.)  The women might worry that their unusual paths in life that lead them to be standing in an elevator at their age instead of out in the suburbs means that they’re going to die old and alone, like they think Blankenship did.  But then we have the scene with Bert, who we’ve come to understand was involved with Ida.  In fact, before she dies, you get a hint that they’re basically an old married couple, doing crosswords together.  I turned to Marc and said, “Actually, I think Blankenship died exactly how most of us kind of hope we do—-with little pain after spending some time with the person we love the best in the whole world.  And doing something, instead of just being idle and completely forgotten in a home somewhere.”  Dying at your desk is mostly horrifying because it’s considered undignified, but the only reason it’s considered undignified is that it’s such a massive pain in the ass to other people.  But what I got from Bert’s line about how she was an astronaut was that we shouldn’t cry for Ms. Blankenship.  Her life may not have followed the prescribed path for women, but then again, who wants that when you can be an astronaut?

The real point of conflict in the episode was Sally Draper’s temper tantrum. I want to point to the way, however, that it’s paralleled to Blankenship’s death.  They even go down the same hallway path from Don’s door to the front door when their inconvenient death/tantrums disrupt the flow of the office.  A very old and a very young woman causing trouble—-a harbinger for the trouble that mass numbers of women in the prime of their lives are just about to cause. 

Which leads me to the painful but realistic squabble between Peggy and Abe in what was supposed to be their first date through ambush.  I don’t think I have to spell out why both of them made good points but also screwed up badly because they have blinders on. Peggy doesn’t want to examine too closely her complicity with racism, and she gets all hepped up on rationalization through the Oppression Olympics.  Abe hasn’t even thought about how sexism is a massive problem, for basically the same reason—-he’s complicit with it because he benefits.  (Which I think was the point of Peggy’s mealy-mouthed attempts to broach the issue of the client’s racist policies.  She wants to throw that out there, so that when it gets rejected she can say she tried without paying any real price in terms of loss of business.  She gets a feel good moment, but she still retains all the benefits of complicity with racism.)  He projects all his desires on Peggy and then is completely confused when she keeps acting like a subjective human being with a mind of her own. What I do want to point out is that in their battle over who has it worse—-black people or women?—-they basically ignore the fact that half of black people are women, a fact that’s ignored precisely because it destabilizes the parameters of the conflict and calls into question why people should even get into this space where they’re squabbling over scraps instead of pulling a Sally and demanding it all.  And if we didn’t get the point about who is being ignored in this “black people vs. women” squabble, Don actually utters the line, “Where’s Carla?” when he sees his daughter (a 10-year-old symbol of white feminism) standing in his office, making demands. 

What seems on its surface to be even remotely simplistic, politically speaking, on “Mad Men” often turns incredibly complex if you look a little closer. 

It’s painful for viewers to see the three adult women that are the focus of this episode fail over and over again to really take control of their lives and own their desires.  I saw more than one person on these here internets moan that even Faye can’t just feel good about living her life by her own rules, despite being a spitfire.  But I think the episode did a bang-up job of showing how constrained the views of women really were at the time, and how much that would weigh on individual women trying to find their way.  I don’t think, for instance, that Don was actually trying to test Faye in any way when he foisted Sally on her.  He just assumed that women know what to do with children.  I don’t think he’s even that invested in that stereotype; he just never once had cause to question it in his whole life.  So why should we think that in an environment like that, where there was literally no space whatsoever to talk about the woman who doesn’t have a maternal instinct, that Faye would be able to feel confident about herself despite what was definitely contextualized as a massive, even dehumanizing lack?  I bet her entire education and career in psychology was dominated by discussion of how all women are fulfilled by motherhood, that this is the apex of female fulfillment.  No wonder she feels like a freak.

And that’s the same story for all three women we see in the final shot.  Their faces tell it all: they’re so thwarted from their own desires by social expectations that they mainly feel confusion and distress.  But I was even more intrigued by the shot where they all stood in horror over Sally as she threw her tantrum.  One thing you can say for sure about Sally is she knows what she wants and she’s willing to work towards her goals, even if it inconveniences everyone around her.  In the final shot, I suspect each woman staring off into space and thinking about how much they want in life is wishing they could grab a little more of that Sally Draper moxie. 

What did you think about the episode?  Did you want to hide in the couch cushions when Abe and Peggy got into it like I did?  Frankly, every time Abe walked onscreen, I hid in the couch cushions, since conflicts of the most uncomfortable sort always arose.  What do you think of the Roger/Joan story line?  I love the direction, by the way.  Notice how his office and clothes are all gray, black, and white, and then Joan walks into his office and she’s all bright colors.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 10:13 AM • (90) Comments

This is the episode in which Faye FINALLY started to become an actual human character instead of a walking ball of exaggerated affectations. It was so great to finally see some sincere emotion. And I loved how she used the same syrupy, condescending tone she used with the secretaries in the focus group, and then had her ass handed to her by a ten-year-old.

Comment #1: ttintagel  on  09/21  at  11:26 AM

Also, Abe has now been crowned the heir to Meathead Stivic.

Comment #2: ttintagel  on  09/21  at  11:28 AM

I like Faye’s affected mannerisms.  The show has subtly drawn out how they are basically a series of defenses of the sort you would have to have to get as far as she has in her career, despite being not only a woman but one who looks a certain way that would get her harassed and condescended to by men basically all the time.

Comment #3: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/21  at  11:29 AM

I would have felt the same way, if they had ever given us a hint that there was anything underneath the act. They usually do on this show, which is why she stuck out.

Comment #4: ttintagel  on  09/21  at  11:42 AM

Again and again we see Don fuck up on the second step. The woman who brought in Sally basically muttered “Men never know what’s going on” and he said “I’ve paid you and I said thank you.” He did that with Alison, too, and it didn’t work out so great. When Don asked Faye to take Sally home, it was completely pragmatic: Faye has my keys already, my secretary just died, please just do this for me. And frankly, when Don grabbed Faye during Sally’s tantrum and wanted Faye to talk to her, I really don’t know that I was getting “Faye’s a woman, she’ll be a good mom” from his actions, rather, he was dipping back into his “how do you get people to do what you want” conversation from last week. He’s not asking Faye to be a mom, he’s asking her to be a psychologist. Faye doesn’t get that out of his request.

When the women got into the elevator together, I remarked “the redhead, the brunette, and the blonde” and my husband wasn’t sure what it meant, and I pointed out that they’re all the pots, whether they want to be or not, and they don’t want to be.

The best case scenario for Roger and Joan is that they are a slightly younger version of Burt and Ida, that they will never be apart but they will never be together, either. Roger has painted himself into a corner, he wants Joan to rescue him. And Joan has painted herself into a corner, and maybe she’s entertaining the idea that Roger will rescue her. But the fact is that he will never take her seriously as a mate, and she knows this. He wanted her to be his little caged bird and she rejected him and now they have to move on.

Comment #5: Mighty Ponygirl  on  09/21  at  11:43 AM

That elevator shot really rocked my socks. Amanda pointed out their isolation from one another, despite the fact that they could really empower one another if they’d only talk to one another. But also, their expressions and even the directions of their gazes speak so much to their trajectories: Joan beginning to acknowledge the simple possibility of change; Peggy awakening to the stark reality that she’s involved in a much broader struggle than she ever realized; and Faye, conflicted, realizing that she has traded one possible life for another—that under the prevailing norms, she cannot have a compromise between the two.

Comment #6: DEstlund  on  09/21  at  11:52 AM

one another one another ONE ANOTHER! I should proof my comments. Sorry.

Comment #7: DEstlund  on  09/21  at  11:53 AM

Heh, I know Don’s in the wrong, but I sympathized with him in that moment.  I don’t like people lingering around waiting for something that we know is going to be unsatisfactory across the board.

Comment #8: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/21  at  11:55 AM

One interesting thing about Mad Men is the way it sometimes puts two people in proximity, and I’m curious to see how they might interact, and then they don’t—like when Don and Abe were briefly alone together in the lobby (can’t think offhand of any other examples, but I know I’ve had that feeling once or twice before).  Since I only just started watching this season, are these moments teasers for encounters/confrontations that develop and move to the forefront later? 

I got the sense at the end that Peggy was done with Abe, but each seems to have a piece of truth that the other one needs to hear, and if chemistry can hold them together long enough, it would be interesting to see them gadfly each other out ahead of both curves.  Then again, maybe at this point they need a little time off to absorb those lessons on their own, and then can meet at another party later, more on the same page with respect to both issues?

Comment #9: curtp  on  09/21  at  11:59 AM

1. Yeah, watching Ida and Burt doing the crossword puzzle (the Wii game of the 1920s) made me think of Amanda’s post (and Faludi’s article) about the divide between feminist generations.  I could see a 20 something Ida B in a flapper’s fringed dress, drinking, smoking, becoming the Queen of Perversion, and doing all the other things that break the Victorian ideal for women.  Ida even became Burt’s secretary, at a time when women secretaries were as rare as women CEOs are now.  And yet at her death, she was “just a secretary”, because women were already moving on.

2. Poor Burt was breaking up.  “Where are they taking her?” he asks, like a kid whose mother is being taken away.  Then he tells the attendants to take her to Campbell’s, a top end funeral home that did a lot of ‘20’s celebrities.  He’s lost his office, he’s lost his business, and now he’s lost the woman who means the most to him.

3. Speaking of civil rights, we finally get a black character who has more than one line in this season, and it turns out he’s a mugger. *head desk*

4.Roger and Joan seem to belong to the Milgram school of dating; expose your date to something traumatic, then provide comfort and voila!

5. How come Don never asks Sally why she doesn’t want to go back?  If I’d pulled something like Sally’s stunt, then a) my mom would have flipped out, gotten on the first train to the city, and dragged me home to face hell, and b) my dad would have interrogated me on what was so bad at home that I had to risk being kidnapped (or worse) by running away.

I know that neither Don nor Betty are Parents of the Year, and given the choice of Don’s benign neglect over Betty’s emotional abuse, I’d take the former any day, but it looks like Sally’s going from the frying pan to the fire.

Comment #10: Blue Jean  on  09/21  at  12:00 PM

Mighty, I think what Don wants from Faye is ambiguous.  But I agree—-when she cracked at the end, I think he did the right thing (for once).  He reassured her that he’s not trying to turn her into something she’s not.  It seems like a small, automatic gesture in our era from a man, but back then, I think it was huge.  The courage it even took for her to speak up to him about her concerns was tremendous.  In fact, as they noted on Jezebel, the whole episode was about women speaking up about their concerns to men, and by and large winning their battles. (Except Sally.) Which made their confusion at the end all the more distressing, because it’s clear that now that they’re finding a voice they still don’t necessarily know what to do with it.  And their isolation is basically the main problem. They haven’t yet understood the concept that the personal is political.  That’s the name for their problem.  They’re still stuck in thinking that their problems are unique and personal ones for them, instead of really common situations that result from systemic sexism.

Comment #11: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/21  at  12:00 PM

<quote>Roger and Joan seem to belong to the Milgram school of dating; expose your date to something traumatic, then provide comfort and voila! </quote>

Someone on another site joked that maybe Roger staged the mugging.

Comment #12: ttintagel  on  09/21  at  12:05 PM

How come Don never asks Sally why she doesn’t want to go back?

I think that back in the 60s, the notion of asking a child serious questions was simply considered pointless.  You instructed children.  You didn’t ask them shit.  This is a major culture war struggle still today that is way under-covered.  The right wing is absolutely bonkers angry about the shift towards a child-centered form of child-rearing that involves expressing empathy and understanding towards children.  Almost more than any other factor besides abortion, anger and resentment over the change from authoritarian to empathetic child-rearing as the preferred model has been the organizing event for the Christian right.  Right wing myths about losing the right to spank your child have been as prevalent for decades as right wing myths about sharia law are now.

Comment #13: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/21  at  12:07 PM

I also didn’t see Don as asking Faye to talk to Sally as a woman, but as a shrink, and Faye acknowledged that when she said she didn’t take much child psychology in college.  I think it was more in her head that she was being tested as mother material, which I’m taking as Amanda’s point about how society expects all women to want to be mothers.

Abe is a victim of the same oppression as everyone else because he wants to do something about it but is unable to do something meaningful.  He is in the trap and the only way out of the trap is the temper tantrum.  I agree with Amanda in that Abe doesn’t even see the trap (or he’d be more sensitive to Peggy’s position…I think Abe would LIKE to see the trap…his heart’s in the right place and he seems sincere).

Sally.  I was taken more by Kiernan Shipka’s acting than anything else in the show.  Okay, except for maybe the two funniest bits of the night.  She turned in a very refined performance with exceptional realism in her inflection.  Contrast that with the awful acting of Peggy’s lesbian friend…one of the the worst actors I’ve ever seen outside of a high school production of Our Town.

Two funniest bits of the night?  Roger’s line about “she died as she lived” and the French toast scene.  Both cracked me up.

Comment #14: DBK  on  09/21  at  12:11 PM

Blue Jean, I don’t think the mugging should be a headdesk moment; the writers know what they’re doing. Blacks and whites are still isolated populations here, one group in a position of pretty extreme privilege. I think they’re going to explore how a simple sense of entitlement twists into bigotry upon experiencing an isolated incident (that is likewise caused by the inverse situation: the desperation and victim mentality that grows from a severely disadvantaged position). I think the mugging is going to grow into some very sharp commentary on the roots of privilege and all the upside-down populist narratives that attempt to justify it.

Comment #15: DEstlund  on  09/21  at  12:11 PM

Blue Jean (#10)...YES!  I said the same thing to Mrs DBK:  nobody has bothered to ask Sally what is wrong.  I expected Faye to do that because, even without training in child psych, it seems to most obvious thing in the world.  And what about Sally’s shrink?  Don mentioned her, but that was the curious incident of the dog barking in the night that left me wondering.

Comment #16: DBK  on  09/21  at  12:14 PM

Amanda, maybe there were parents who didn’t ask their kids what was wrong in the 60s, but there are probably just as many who don’t ask now.  I grew up in the 60s.  If I had behaved the way Sally behaved, I would have been questioned about the cause, and my folks were “Do as you’re told” types who rarely asked me what I wanted.  Think back to 60s television show dads.  Hugh Beaumont, Andy Griffith, Robert Young.  Every one of them would have asked what was wrong, or their moms would have.  Don and Betty are unusually uninvolved in their children’s inner lives, which is a big part of why Sally is so unhappy.  She needs mom or dad to hug her the way the receptionist hugged her, but mom and dad are living their own inner conflicts so deeply they don’t have much space for the kids.

Comment #17: DBK  on  09/21  at  12:24 PM

Which is one reason I didn’t like the knee jerk assessment of Don as a Disneyland Dad. As if!  His indulgences of Sally are minor, and they are like oxygen for the poor child.

Comment #18: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/21  at  12:27 PM

Did anyone else notice that after Don’s stern comment to Sally that there would be no negotiation about them hanging out together until noon, they actually got to the office around 5pm? And they looked happy. Don clearly had fun. Sally was on her best behavior as she wanted to show her dad how good she could be so she could live with him. In a scene so reminiscent of Betty serving breakfast, Sally made French toast in the morning for him.

I thought Sally was riveting this week. Her mannerisms were pure Betty Draper as if she were trying to be her mom back when the family was together. Sally has some serious Daddy issues that will play out in pretty horrendous ways as she hits puberty if they are not addressed. She kept promising her dad—I’ll be good. When she said goodbye to her dad in the reception area, I got the feeling that this angry, humiliated Sally will now be very bad.

Comment #19: BerkeleyMom  on  09/21  at  12:46 PM

BerkeleyMom—agreed. Don has been raising Sally to be a housewife. Grandpa Gene was the first person to suggest to Sally that she should be her own person and not another housecat. Sally broke out all the stops that morning: She made french toast and put on her best housewife act to tell him “see, I’m being who you want me to be” and when that didn’t get her what she wants, all hell broke loose.

When she hit the floor, we thought maybe she’d broken her nose and Betty’s concern for Sally’s future waaaaayyyyy back in S1 would come true.

Comment #20: Mighty Ponygirl  on  09/21  at  12:54 PM

I felt this episode was anvillicious—especially the Joan/Roger mugging. I get that their worlds are segregated, but why does the only walk-on for a person of color have to be a mugger?  I just feel that people are just reading way too much into what the writers supposedly will take this because they like the show that much.  It still doesn’t change that it’s a Giant Plot Contrivance. Carla’s been on the show for 4 seasons and there were organic ways to incorporate her into the plot, but they really haven’t done that, so it’s not like they’re going to start now.  Also, I am NOT buying that the reaction to a mugging for Joan is, “Let’s do it in the same alley in which we were just mugged.

Comment #21: Shakti  on  09/21  at  01:25 PM

There’s been a lot of talk (on the AV club at least) about the mugger being black.  Considering that Mad Men has basically no black characters, that they’d make the mugger black is being viewed as outrageous.

I personally feel that Peggy is headed towards hiring a black copywriter, and that the fact that the person who mugged Joan and Roger was black is going to come into play in a major office conflict.

But, I have no real reason for thinking that, so I could be full of it.

Comment #22: JennyLI  on  09/21  at  01:30 PM

I personally feel that Peggy is headed towards hiring a black copywriter, and that the fact that the person who mugged Joan and Roger was black is going to come into play in a major office conflict.

Bingo.  I seem to recall a couple of seasons back Don even having a throwaway comment somewhere about how he’d hate to be the first black copywriter somewhere.  Anyone remember which episode and the context?

Comment #23: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  01:46 PM

Felix, I think Roger had said something about some other firm hiring a black copywriter and Don said that.

I think Peggy is headed this way because they had her talking about how she has to hire more copywriters, and then this all happened.  And even though Peggy’s reaction to her Harry Belafonte suggestion appeared tepid, Peggy has in the past never just taken shut up as an answer.  I see her coming back and pushing on this.  I think Abe gave her way more to think about than it appeared and that’s why she reacted to defensively.  I think she may have given him something to think about too, but we’ll see.

Comment #24: JennyLI  on  09/21  at  01:52 PM

I loved this episode, especially the humor.  Are perhaps the writers reminding us that part of the purpose of a TV show is to be entertaining?  The glimpses of the people carrying Blankenship out while the meeting went on with the oblivious clients was hysterical.  As was the rum instead of Mrs. Butterworth’s on the French toast.

IIRC, last year Amanda said something aout this show being black humor or exaggeration, not intended to be entirely realistic.

#14 I haven’t decided whether the actor playing Peggy’s lesbian friend is just a bad actor or whether she’s intended to be symbolic of people’s then inability to hear feminist rhetoric (men are containers, women are soup?) as significant.

Comment #25: Sixtieslibber  on  09/21  at  01:56 PM

How come Don never asks Sally why she doesn’t want to go back?

I think that back in the 60s, the notion of asking a child serious questions was simply considered pointless.

I’m sure that attitude was much more common then but hardly as universal as you suggest.  The simpler answer is that Don knows quite well why she doesn’t want to go back and doesn’t have any idea what to do or else is unwilling to adapt or compromise his lifestyle to do so.  Furthermore, as was pointed out somewhere else (I think Sepinwall’s review), I don’t think in that day and age there was anything Don could do…Betty would never consent to Don’s having custody of any of the kids if for no other reason than it would make her look “bad,” and no court then (and in most places, now) would allow it anyway.

Comment #26: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  01:59 PM

Did anyone else notice that after Don’s stern comment to Sally that there would be no negotiation about them hanging out together until noon, they actually got to the office around 5pm? And they looked happy. Don clearly had fun.
Comment #19: BerkeleyMom on 09/21 at 11:46 AM

And he got her pizza for dinner!  They had a fun father-daughter day. 

I loved her mod flowery dress, too.

The receptionist who hugged Sally and picked her up when she fell down was the only woman who showed her real warmth.  Sally is not comforted by her words, but by the hug.  Moments later the receptionist looked sort of upset, collecting herself to greet Peggy’s lesbian friend.

I liked how Joan smirked when Roger was describing Blankenship’s death, even as Roger did not crack a smile.  And how she earlier managed to say the right things about Blankenship as the seasoned ad men were totally at a loss for words.

My husband and I both suspected Roger could have set up the mugging, though any New Yorker of the time would know the drill. 

And I, too, thought of the last scene, blonde, brunette, redhead, the complete set.

I noticed two uses of gloves—when the receptionist was carrying out the blotter Blankenship touched after she was dead, and when Betty is standing imperiously smoking, waiting for Sally to come out.

I also noticed similarities in the faces of Betty, Sally, and Dr. Faye (in bed at the beginning).  Both Sally and Dr. Faye have that faint lisp, too.

Comment #27: oldfeminist  on  09/21  at  01:59 PM

I think Peggy’s friend (I’ve only seen clips) is David Mamet’s daughter, in which case I feel sorry for the dialogue she had to hear performed growing up and how that might have affected her later acting.

Comment #28: norbizness  on  09/21  at  02:00 PM

FWIW, the actress who plays Joyce (Peggy’s lesbian friend) is Zosia Mamet, the daughter of David Mamet and Lindsay Crouse.  At least to me, her performance actually resembles the kind of wooden performances that her father often asks of actresses in his movies.

Comment #29: Ben Alpers  on  09/21  at  02:03 PM

Speaking of the scene of them pulling her body out of the office, that was Pete, and it made if funnier somehow.  He hasn’t been around.  So he’s going to be and soon.  He would be integral to any story that has Peggy bringing on a black copywriter.  He would probably be her only ally.

Comment #30: JennyLI  on  09/21  at  02:03 PM

Mad Men is not a show that’s trying to paint a rosy picture about the 50s and 60s, and race is going to be one of those things. I get that it’s frustrating and disappointing (esp since the very first scene of the show is Don trying to talk to a black busboy about his cigarette prefs and getting the guy into trouble), but Both Joan and Roger have been shown to be very racist people, and if a black person mugs them, then that is going to have ripple effects throughout the season, because they’ve intentionally insulated themselves from people of color. I see Peggy and Pete forming an alliance to get a black copywriter onboard (Pete’s been interested in tapping “the negro market” for a while), and I think AnglScarlett is right on—the trains are pulling away from the station and it’s only a matter of counting the episodes until they collide.

Comment #31: Mighty Ponygirl  on  09/21  at  02:08 PM

AnglScarlett: Precisely, given the past indications that (at least as far as race goes) and Pete is fairly progressive and Peggy seems to be on the verge of some consciousness of these issues, they have to be setting this up.  Otherwise, the character development on those lines would be a waste of effort.

And yeah, I think you got the subtext of Don’s previous comment right.  Don’s words after hearing that from Roger if I recall were, “I’d hate to be that guy.”

Comment #32: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  02:08 PM

Sixtieslibber I LOVED the soup/container thing—especially because even Joyce equivocates when she makes the analogy. Nobody yet understands that we are all soup and container for one another, when we’re doing things right. Obviously the men on the show often consider themselves “containers” for what they believe to be sloppy sentimental femininity, while the women have to “contain” drunken, uncontrolled masculinity through wile and misdirection. It makes me think of the Jane Wagner/Lily Tomlin show, The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe: “No, this is soup, and this is art. Art, soup. Soup, art. I wish to hell they would get this.”

Comment #33: DEstlund  on  09/21  at  02:13 PM

I have nothing of note to add, but I just wanted to tell you that I look forward to your wrap up almost as much as I do to the episodes themselves.

I was wondering, however, what your take was on the sort of group-swelling, protective mob of everyone there at the end, with Sally, where they were somehow wordlessly on the verge some sort of confrontation, but realized there was nothing to be done or no protocol to follow or script or role, and they just kind of dispersed and went back to their day.

I don’t think that was JUST the time period; I thought that was also a very human, modern and timeless reaction as well. It reminded me, to a degree, of that “how people respond to an abused person in a restaurant” hidden camera thing you posted a while back.

Comment #34: jdobbin  on  09/21  at  02:20 PM

Personal rant: As a black woman I will admit that I cringed when I saw the mugger was black, and that as soon as I saw the gun I was thinking, “please don’t be black please don’t be black… shit”. Then again, I grew up with parents who knew all too well that the action of one would lay blame on the rest and that’s what they taught me. It was one of those “you have to be better,” or else I’d fuck it up for everyone. That brings with it a whole lot of class issues as well.

Though I will say that the result of sex made me question whether Roger staged the mugging. He did pick the place they went to and insisted on walking home instead of taking a cab, as Joan pointed out.

Though if Peggy brings in a black copywriter, given Joan’s hatred of Kinsey’s (?) black girlfriend from season two and Roger’s blackface routine and his meltdown over the Japanese, Amanda might be right that Mrs. Blankenship’s death is the calm before the storm. And I would love to see that cause I’ve been looking forward to civil rights finally bursting through the offices of SCDP. I get that to these upper class white people they are (literally) above the fray and I do enjoy that Peggy hears or talks about stuff that’s happened off screen but with the black couple walking the sidewalk last week I don’t think this show will be able to ignore it anymore.

And I know it won’t happen, but since Amanda pointed out that Peggy and Abe are ignoring that half of the black community is women, then if Peggy hired a black female copywriter shit really would hit the fan. Though for Joan and Roger’s antagonizing I think it’ll be a black man, that way it’s scarier.

I felt really bad for Sally, though while some people here were wondering why Don just didn’t ask her what’s wrong, I was pulling for Sally to just come out and say it. I know she’s a kid and, to some extent, she did when she said she hated it there. But that’s typically what a child would say and I think Sally’s smarter than that. I wanted, “Mom’s so mean,” or perhaps Sally articulating that she knows Betty doesn’t love her.  Sally’s shown so much growth I hated her almost passive-aggressive “Goodbye” to Don. Though it did remind me that in the Bobbi Bennet days, Sally watched her dad shaving and told him she’d be quiet.

I have a feeling she’s not going to be quiet anymore.

Comment #35: UltraMagnus  on  09/21  at  02:38 PM

And I forgot: I know some other recaps have pointed out that Sally’s fear of what Betty would do turned out not to be anything, however, even though we didn’t see it I know a lot of parents who would NEVER discipline their kids in public. Even Betty was going to punish her it would be in the privacy of the home and that would have to be the worst /longest car ride ever, just anticipating the spanking you’re going to get for not only running away but embarrassing your parent.

Though I’d like to think Henry talked her out of it or refused to do it cause Betty always depended on Don for the discipline.

Comment #36: UltraMagnus  on  09/21  at  02:41 PM

UltraMagnus:  I think it’s possible (even likely) Betty secretly relished the whole thing and isn’t upset enough to punish Sally.  Betty had no idea Sally had made it all the way from Ossining to Manhattan until Sally had gotten all the way to Don’s office after an interlude trying to evade capture on the train.  Betty’s reaction was first disbelief followed by what looked to me like a form of relief, i.e., “Oh good, Sally’s out of my hair now, Don has to deal with her, and my evening’s now free.”

It’s possible Betty may (consciously or not) even encourage repeat performances of this.

Comment #37: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  02:47 PM

Ultramagnus, I don’t think they’re trying to ignore the civil rights movement—the point is that it’s conspicuous in its absence. The elephant in the room that’s soon to become the bull in the china closet. That’s what keeps me coming back for more—the show thus far has existed in this alien, constructed, sterile, apolitical place that’s been gradually fraying at the edges as characters puncture through the hegemony of upper-middle-class white male privilege. Most characters sense the artificiality of their position, and everybody senses something coming, something big. And when it comes, bang, zoom!

Comment #38: DEstlund  on  09/21  at  02:52 PM

“FWIW, the actress who plays Joyce (Peggy’s lesbian friend) is Zosia Mamet, the daughter of David Mamet and Lindsay Crouse.”

Proof of the evil of nepotism.

Also, as far as the mugger being black, I think it is meant to illustrate how, for many white people in the 1960s, black people were only encountered when they were your maid (Carla) or your mugger.  They talk about segregation and racism in the south, but there was plenty of segregation and racism in the north too.

My grammar school was not only integrated, but we were probably 40% black when I graduated, with another 30% Spanish (we didn’t say “Hispanic” or “Latino”...most of my Spanish classmates were Puerto Rican).  I grew up not knowing what segregation was except as some weird thing they talked about on TV.  I couldn’t imagine a world that was largely white.  I’d never seen such a thing.

Comment #39: DBK  on  09/21  at  03:05 PM

“Don’s words after hearing that from Roger if I recall were, “I’d hate to be that guy.” “

Don is sensitive to people who are outsiders.

Comment #40: DBK  on  09/21  at  03:07 PM

He is but he’s also easily threatened.

Comment #41: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/21  at  03:15 PM

He also recognizes social constructions, having constructed a (false) identity for himself, moving among positions that are supposed to remain fixed. He’s easily threatened because he, more than anyone else on the show, is keenly aware that not only is his position based on his own fabricated narrative, but on the fabricated narrative of the entire class. Having bounced around the socio-economic ladder quite a lot, I’m really interested in seeing what happens to Don when things start really rattling.

Comment #42: DEstlund  on  09/21  at  03:38 PM

I think what will happen if Peggy hires a black copywriter is that Joan and Roger will freak, Pete will back her up with arguments about how this helps them with the “Negro markets”, Don will get mad at Peggy for what he’ll consider unnecessary shit-stirring, and Peggy will (hopefully) point out that they’re better off with a talented black copywriter than the worthless white dude they hired because Roger’s related to him.

Comment #43: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/21  at  03:59 PM

I wouldn’t be half surprised if hiring a black copywriter also ends up getting Lee Garner Jr. pissed off.  It seems unlikely that they could keep a black copywriter entirely away from the account since it accounts for so much of the firm, and we have already seen this season that he views SCDP as being at his beck and call.  Have we ever seen any indication of Lee’s racial attitudes?  I somehow doubt he’s a forward thinking or progressive individual.

Comment #44: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  04:27 PM

I think the reason nobody asked Sally what was wrong, is that they all already know it. She hasn’t exactly made a secret of it.

Betty’s punished the kids in front of other people before - I’m thinking of Sally at the Francis Thanksgiving, and Bobby when Francine and Carlton were over for bridge. They’ve deliberately showed her softening - first Henry convinced her to let Sally off the hook for cutting her hair, then she gave Gene to Don at the party. I saw her “I was worried about you” as a natural progression along the same path.

Comment #45: ttintagel  on  09/21  at  04:34 PM

So, um—what can we do to support the folks who are writing such an astonishingly well-characterized and powerful show?  Besides watch it, of course.

Because, seriously.

Comment #46: Punditus Maximus  on  09/21  at  06:04 PM

So, um—what can we do to support the folks who are writing such an astonishingly well-characterized and powerful show?

Have a rally on the National Mall, “Restoring Character(ization)”?

Comment #47: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  06:08 PM

Maybe I’m just an optimist, but I’m not sure if Betty punished Sally offscreen.  It seems like she’s been growing emotionally a lot lately, and that her sessions with her therapist have helped her get her anger (which has been growing slowly and steadily since season 1) under control.

Mad Men is really good at doing those kinds of slow build ups. Part of the reason that the Suitcase was so powerful is because the audience had been hoping that Peggy and Don would open up to each other basically sense the begging of the show, so I think a lot of commentators here are right that the writers are setting the stage for finally confronting the issue of race more directly.  We’ve had teases before, and I have enough faith in the writers that they’re not going to just leave it permanently in the background.

Comment #48: clever screen name  on  09/21  at  06:14 PM

I saw Don’s pulling Faye in to deal with Sally for him as ambiguous. I couldn’t tell whether he did it because she’s a woman or because she’s a psychiatrist who’s made a successful career of getting people to do what she wants them to. I assumed the fact that you could take it either way was intentional.

People keep saying that Bert and Ida had a sexual relationship, but I don’t think so. That’s not what Roger said on his tape anyway. He said he had a sexual relationship with Ida and Bert hated him for it. Bert and Ida were obviously close, but there’s no indication that they got it on.

24: AnglScarlett
Felix, I think Roger had said something about some other firm hiring a black copywriter and Don said that.

Which puts the lie to Abe’s fauxthorative assertion that “there are no black copywriters.” Plus I doubt all those ads in Ebony and Jet were written by white people.
Abe also said in the closet when he kissed Peggy that he was involved in a riot in Harlem, but he avoided being arrested by having his sister pick him up. He’s about as involved in the black struggle as Kinsey was.

I thought the black mugger, and the recently-dilapidated neighborhood he turned up in, was there to illustrate white flight and economic marginalization and did it pretty handily.

@31: Mighty Ponygirl - If Peggy hires a black copywriter, or tries to, she’ll get more resistance from Cooper than anybody. He’s the one who’s been most vocally opposed to the Civil Rights bill, and Roger questioned him on that in The Chrysanthemum and the Sword. Plus Roger is seeing Peter make a lot of headway in his career by keeping his eye on racial issues and being open to non-white markets. The Chrysanthemum and the Sword also established that Roger’s afraid Peter “the boy wonder” will outpace him. That’s not to say Roger would be down for a black copywriter because he personally gives a magnanimous crap about racial issues, just that he doesn’t want to be the obsolete old fart who can’t evolve.
Roger also put $300 on Ali to win by a KO, which seemed symbolic. Peter also bet on Ali. Don and Ken bet on Liston.
And if you go way way back to when Peggy stopped him to make her case for her having Freddy Rumsen’s office, he respects when people “have the balls” to stand up for themselves, so in that sense Roger could be more sympathetic to civil rights than we might think.

Comment #49: snobographer  on  09/21  at  07:30 PM

I like the speculation about a potential black employee who’s not a maid/janitor, but I’d be curious as to how they’d actually get that person there in the building, even as a freelancer.  I think it would be a one-off where they work with another agency or try to and then you’d see catty comments, and then it wouldn’t be mentioned again for another three seasons.

Peggy got hired as a secretary and then was noticed by Freddy Rumsen, and then she ran with it.  I’ve never seen a black woman or an “ethnic” woman (non-white or non European ancestry) in the secretarial pool in four seasons. Once Peggy left the pool, we’ve seen no indication that it’s crossed her mind that other women might be useful as copywriters and she sees those women everyday.

We don’t even see the janitors in the background anymore. We don’t see elevator operators. Nobody says hi or goodbye, and the only time we’ve seen anyone talk to the maintenance staff is when Pete buttonholed the elevator operator, seasons ago.

The account guys were hired for their connections to old money (Pete Campbell, Ken Cosgrove). The one copywriter got an interview because he was related to Roger Sterling’s wife and then got the job because it was easier socially to give him a job than say, “Here’s a freelance check. If we like your work, we’ll ask you again, maybe.”  Don got his opportunity to pitch Roger because he came into the fur shop, and used that to pester him with selectively placed ads, and then took him to a bar, and took advantage of his blackout to say, “You hired me.” As pointed out in this episode, many of the bars were segregated.

It would be either Pete, but I don’t know how much of his power extends to copywriters or Stan—assuming he’s just sexist and not racist, and needs an artist.

Comment #50: Shakti  on  09/21  at  07:44 PM

@48: clever screen name - I agree about Betty. I took her “I was worried about you” to be sincere and affectionate. I also kind of cheered her on when she refused to come get Sally and made Don take care of her for 24 hours.

The scene in the lobby reminded me of all the Betty-bashing on the Internets. She was being judged for her bad parenting, but nobody so much as glanced in Don’s direction. And Betty was visibly defensive.

And I think if asked, Betty would be okay with Sally staying with Don for a while. For all the “Betty would never allow that,” I see no indication that that’s true. Betty has expressed frustration with Don’s “level of interest” regarding Sally’s well-being and his having sitters watch the kids instead of spending his visitation time with them himself. I think Don’s more concerned about Sally cramping his sex life.

Comment #51: snobographer  on  09/21  at  07:49 PM

@50 - Shakti - Stan’s racist. He just laughed off Peggy’s questioning about the boycott against Fillmore auto parts and for suggesting Harry Belafonte.

I think if they brought in a black copywriter and/or artist/photographer, they’d have to go outside and actively recruit them. And their interest in doing so would be to increase their appeal to black markets. Maybe they’ll want more black people to buy Honda motorcycles or Life cereal? Peter reads Ebony and Jet sometimes. Maybe he’ll suggest they produce some ads for black publications, though I don’t know why he hasn’t done that already. Maybe it will be image-repair work for Fillmore.

Peggy said in The Rejected that they were looking for photographers. Maybe she’ll meet a black photographer through Joyce or Abe.

There was a glimpse of a black maintenance worker waxing the floor a couple episodes ago, but even Carla’s gotten more silent than she used to be.

Comment #52: snobographer  on  09/21  at  08:10 PM

@51 “I think Don’s more concerned about Sally cramping his sex life.” Yeah I agree completely, and I also had a similar reaction when Betty told him to fuck off.  This episode made it pretty clear Don is dependent on the women in his life to be a father.  Now, granted, Betty has Carla there to help out since season 2, but she still has to deal with the kids on an emotional level (though, granted, she does a really bad job at it).  Don’s never had to.  The most he’s done is be an authority figure in the background that Betty can appeal to.

I think part of the pot-soup metaphor Joyce used (apparently some people didn’t like it?) is that while everybody wants to be soup I think being a pot is part of being a full human being too.  I think Don wants to be there emotionally for his daughter, but he just doesn’t know how because he’s never really tried.  That’s also why Sally is able to manipulate him so easily, up until she has to go back home.

Comment #53: clever screen name  on  09/21  at  08:15 PM

Going to the wikipedia page of episodes, I doubt theres going to be a black hire.  I just dont think theres all that much time left. If the show were about peggy, maybe.  But Don’s mix of outsider support and insider privilege doesnt make a black hire compelling at this time.  I also think a few of you are reading the characters wrong. Pete is just fine advertising to black audiences, but I doubt he would in any way support a black employee; unless it would benefit him in a big way. Peggy also for whatever her other liberalisms of the time period has a strong sense of self preservation and advancement.  I doubt she would put her neck out like that.  Roger? Dont make me laugh.  Sorry, guys its just too soon.  Maybe Price would be ok with it as the underdog non-american. 

Ok, the meat.  I loved Ida Blankenship’s death because part of this show is all these horrible things happening that will make terrible off color jokes a few years down the road; re freddy peeing himself and the guy getting his foot run over by the lawn mower.  The show has to have these terrible events that turn into hilarious stories after a lot of drinking.  My favorite part had to be Peggy telling sally not to come out of there “I KNOW!” and don writing the idea down verrry slowwwly. I think Pete was a great choice to be the one to move the body; the actor has put in such a lot of work being awkward that just seeing him in that situation gives an extra laugh. We laugh at the possibilities!

If the bad neighborhood, mugging and alleyway sex (uh-oh, oh no, aww yeah) was written a bit clumsily; it did so for a point.  The old places roger used to take joan have changed, and they both are getting stuck in the past and face the consequences of that.  As a setup for further action im ok with it.  And I really only like roger when hes hitting on joan. 

and could peggys poet mansplain any harder to her?  ugh.

Comment #54: pasteymachine  on  09/21  at  09:05 PM

@pasteymachine - I loved how Sally was sitting in the executive chair behind the desk. She looked this close to kicking Faye out of her office for stinking up the place with her shitty sales pitch and pouring herself a highball.

More @52 - Actually Peter did suggest they produce ads for black publications for Admiral Televisions, but that was a couple seasons ago.

The more I think about it, I think if it’s going to happen Peggy would be the most likely to at least try to recruit a non-white creative from her circle of hipster friends. She’s the one who recruits new creative, mostly, I think. And she seems to get out in the world more than any of the guys who do their schmoozing at the country clubs.
But then I keep waiting for Carla to have some actual lines again and that hasn’t panned out either, so I don’t know. I’ll be really disappointed if the writers just gloss over the whole issue.

Comment #55: snobographer  on  09/21  at  10:01 PM

^and that recruitment wouldn’t be totally altruistic on Peggy’s part either; a non-white (and/or female) creative is less likely to be promoted past her than another white guy, and recruiting a minority would be a way of assuring herself that she’s not part of the problem.
But then the creators of this show never do what I want them to do. Sometimes I like that. Other times it gets on my nerves.

Comment #56: snobographer  on  09/21  at  10:09 PM

snobographer said:

And I think if asked, Betty would be okay with Sally staying with Don for a while. For all the “Betty would never allow that,” I see no indication that that’s true.

The issue wasn’t “staying with Don for a while,” if anything I think they have been quite clear that Betty is happy to have Sally (at the least) out of her hair more often.  Betty’s near total lack of concern over Sally having train-hiked down to Manhattan from Ossining establishes that pretty decisively. 

The actual issue is that Sally wants to live permanently with Don…move schools, primary abode, what have you.  That’s a lot more than just spending more time with Don, and Betty would die before ever allowing it (even if on a purely personal level she might prefer it) because she believes everyone will judge her harshly for being a mother who does not actually take care of her kids.  It’s academic though, because Don also has no intention of having Sally move in with him even if it were possible…which it isn’t.

Comment #57: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  10:28 PM

Sally’s new haircut and floral shift (similar to what many of the adult women on the program wore), along with the level of initiative involved in visiting her dad, seem to indicate that she’s transitioning from a little girl to a young adult.

Now, is that because it offers rather juicy plot possibilities, or because Kiernan Shipka is just getting too big for the little girl bit? Or both?

Comment #58: Molly, NYC  on  09/21  at  10:49 PM

Compromises are available. In the show it’s summer and there’s no school right now. There are day-camps where Sally could spend her weekdays for few weeks while Don’s at work. Or Don could even just talk to Betty about upping his visitation time, and then actually spend that time with the kids, if Don was intuitive enough to notice that Sally feels abandoned by him. I don’t see Betty saying no to either of those deals. I see Don saying no to it because it would get in the way of his ability to get laid.
What you perceived as Betty’s lack of concern I saw as Betty going on the defensive when being chewed out for something she had no control over and telling Don to take the wheel if he thinks it’s such a cakewalk. And when he was forced to do what he usually just orders Betty to do, he fell on his face.

Comment #59: snobographer  on  09/21  at  10:57 PM

Compromises are available.

Always.  As between reasonable adults making decisions based on Sally’s best interests. I believe neither Don nor Betty is capable of or else willing to do that.  Sally wants to live with Don, and that isn’t going to happen as long as Betty has the final word on it.

I really don’t think my perception was off there….how exactly do you mean Betty had “no control” over what happened regarding Sally’s excursion to Manhattan?  She got all the way from Ossining to Manhattan (by way of a stranger who found her on the train after an indeterminate amount of additional time!) and Betty had no idea until Don called her.  Betty’s reaction is then to tell Don tough, he has her until she feels like coming to get her after her social engagements over the next day or so.  That Betty was defensive is undeniable…that what she actually did was a measured or appropriate reaction given the circumstances, I dispute.

Comment #60: Felix Culpa  on  09/21  at  11:18 PM

@snobographer:

So far peggy doesnt HAVE any people of color hipster friends as far as ive seen.  Were there a few at that party?  your explanation at 56 sounds pretty good,  except Im sure all hires go through Don.  I can see peggy thinking its another good idea but backfiring in her face, though.

Comment #61: pasteymachine  on  09/21  at  11:25 PM

Punditus—well, the obvious first choice would be to try to support the sponsors of Mad Men by paying attention to who’s advertising on the show and then maybe trying to support those products accordingly…

...Except, when you watch the ads that are played for Mad Men, it’s obvious that the advertisers, for all their stylistic buy-in, are completely missing the point of the show and pitching their ads to guys who think it’s like, totally bitchin’ that you can drink and nap on the job and probably high-five one another when Don scores with a hot chick. So there’s a bit of a bind there: Do you support the shows sponsors in hopes that the show continues, even though the sponsors have proven over and over again that they simply cannot understand the premise of the show (or at least are pitching to people who will not get it), or do you take a stand against that sort of low-brow advertising even though it’s the anathema of what the show is about?

Fortunately, the show seems to be doing fine—both critically and ratings-wise, so it’s not so urgent that we make this choice.

In other news, I caught the season premier of Politically Incorrect today (podcast, audio-only, but whatever) and John Hamm, apart from being a dashing and handsome good actor, has a pretty sharp sense of humor and some lovely left-wing politics going for him. Yay!

Comment #62: Mighty Ponygirl  on  09/21  at  11:47 PM

@60 - She had a plan for Carla to pick Sally up from day camp on her way in, but Sally ditched for the train and got to Manhattan before Betty or Carla could have known. It’s not like Sally just disappeared from the house and Betty didn’t notice. And she knew Don had her and he has just as much responsibility to take care of Sally as she does. Don didn’t seem too worried for Sally’s safety either. He just wanted Betty to come get the little nuisance out of his hair.


@62 - There was at least one; the black woman Joyce introduced who’d modeled for that asshole artist guy. And I think I might have seen a couple others milling around in the background. Plus Abe’s said he’s thrown himself into some of the civil rights protests, so she could meet somebody through him, if she doesn’t write him off.

Comment #63: snobographer  on  09/21  at  11:57 PM

err @61 I mean, about the black hipsters.

Comment #64: snobographer  on  09/21  at  11:59 PM

snobographer: Be that as it may, it is not unreasonable for someone actually at work to not want to have to deal with his or her child randomly showing up like that, particularly if they happen to be busy.  The primary custodial parent is responsible for these things, particularly when the child is not supposed to be on visitation, notions of equal responsibility aside.  Don didn’t have any reason to worry about Sally’s safety either, at least not until it was rather obvious she was in no danger.  I appreciate that you are sensitive to “Betty bashing” (and there is a general lack of empathy for Betty’s position) but in this instance I found her behavior to be somewhat more inappropriate and/or irresponsible than Don’s.

Comment #65: Felix Culpa  on  09/22  at  12:56 AM

Joyce’s mannerisms don’t bother me, because she’s an out lesbian in the early 1960s—that character would have developed a whole lot of mannerisms to broadcast that fact just enough to get the point across, but not enough to risk getting herself beaten up.

Also, is it just me, or have Joyce and Megan (the receptionist) been flirting a bit?

Comment #66: Mnemosyne  on  09/22  at  01:49 AM

Hard to tell how Megan takes Joyce’s advances; Megan’s mannerisms seem otherworldly.  They remind me, in less exaggerated form, of the female decoy that gets into the White House in Mars Attacks.  It really struck me when she disposed of Mrs. Blankenship’s desk blotter; very forceful in a show that’s usually understated in physical movement.

It would be a cool subplot if she ends up doing movies for Andy Warhol.  Just seems right to me.

Comment #67: NY Expat  on  09/22  at  03:13 AM

@67 she is strange isnt she?  Shes had far too many lines not to be dons next secretary I think;

Comment #68: pasteymachine  on  09/22  at  03:20 AM

It may be that Peggy’s bullshit detector is going off because Abe is reminding her of Kinsey.

Comment #69: Mighty Ponygirl  on  09/22  at  09:46 AM

Did anyone pick up the kind of runaway slave vibe that Sally Draper gave off?  She shows up by subway if I’m not mistaken (literally an underground railroad), having escaped from her mother, in toe behind a helpful elderly woman (with women throughout the south and border states often facilitating transition of slaves to freedom).

And yet, in a Dredd Scott style decision, she has her freedom striped from her again and is dragged back kicking and screaming to her mother by the end of the episode.

I kinda caught some similarities between Sally Draper’s plight and the plight of the black runaway.

Come to think of it, I’m a little surprised we haven’t seen any significant black cast members on the show yet.

Comment #70: Zifnab25  on  09/22  at  11:12 AM

I had a whole different take on the witnessing of Sally’s tantrum.  I read the women’s horror as mute sympathy for a girl who is essentially motherless, and unable to be openly recognized as such.  There’s a parallel pain in the knowledge that one’s job depends on never being able to have children.

When they get into the elevator, I realized that Faye had just admitted she was no good with kids, Peggy had given up her own child both physically and emotionally, and Joan had terminated multiple pregnancies.  (And we know for sure that Pete got Peggy pregnant, and it’s not too much of a stretch to assume that one of Joan’s pregnancies happened during her affair with Roger.) 

And Mrs. Blankenship leaves behind a niece, not a daughter.

Comment #71: pandechion  on  09/22  at  01:58 PM

@65 - notions of equal responsibility aside

That’s a mighty big aside.

Sally wouldn’t even have got on that train if Don hadn’t been blowing her off.

On stranger-from-the-train-lady’s “men never know what’s going on” tip, Miss Blankenship was already dead when Don came out of his office after chewing Betty out on the phone. He didn’t notice that either, even though he looked right at her and told her corpse, “I don’t want to hear it” as the phone rang off the hook unanswered. A point’s being made there.

BTW, it was Dr. Edna’s idea for Sally to walk from day camp to her psychiatrist appointment on her own, which is when Sally hopped on the train.

Comment #72: snobographer  on  09/22  at  02:50 PM

@65 - notions of equal responsibility aside

That’s a mighty big aside.

Sally wouldn’t even have got on that train if Don hadn’t been blowing her off.

It’s a big aside, and it’s also an aside, i.e., irrelevant to the point we’re discussing.  Of course Don (and Betty) need to and should make all kinds of adjustments and shift burdens in their childrens’ best interest.  That the task of child rearing is unequally distributed in the Draper (nee Whitman) family is so uncontroversial (particularly in this forum) as to be trite.

However, I said before and I say again that it is completely reasonable for someone to be flustered by their 10-year-old child showing up in their office like that, particularly when the child is unquestionably someone’s else responsibility at that moment.  Betty’s response to being informed of this (yes, angrily by Don) was to be defensive about it and flatly just state she’s not inclined to come get Sally or disturb her (later) social plans in the slightest.  While we should look at Betty with some sympathy…what she is is not even close to entirely her fault…the fact of the matter (and one of the foci of the dramatic storyline) is that she is horrible with the children in general, and emotionally abusive toward Sally.  Don certainly isn’t great for them either (absentee father, etc.), and Betty certainly unfairly has to take a lot of things and play the heavy because of this.  However, the notion of blaming the train trip episode entirely or even predominantly on Don because “Sally wouldn’t even have got on that train if Don hadn’t been blowing her off” goes far beyond any credible theory of proximate causation with which I am familiar.  Or you don’t think it has anything at all to do with how mean Betty is to her and how obvious Betty makes it that she dislikes her?

Comment #73: Felix Culpa  on  09/22  at  04:46 PM

If Betty was officially mother of the year, Sally would still feel her dad’s abandoned her, because that’s what he’s essentially done since the divorce.
Don’s made no indication he has the slightest clue about Betty’s emotional abuse of Sally, or can be bothered to give a crap about it.

Comment #74: snobographer  on  09/22  at  05:25 PM

snobographer: Don’s “made no indication” he has a clue?  I think we just have to respectfully disagree there, I think Don is well aware of how bad Betty is with Sally in particular—he even confronted Betty about it and I think he has telegraphed pretty well that he’s aware how miserable Sally is living over there and has seen how Betty is with her….hell, even Henry Francis is pretty obviously aware of it.  Furthermore, unlike Betty, Don has the self-awareness to recognize (and feel guilty about) how bad he is with her, hence the direct acknowledgment this season both that he misses the children constantly…and has no idea what to do with them once he has them over.  (If there’s one thing Don has over Betty in spades, it’s a far superior sense of self-awareness.  Betty is essentially a child in many things including how she deals with her children.)

I’m sorry, but I just don’t think we’re watching the same show if you honestly believe Don lacks any clue as to the problems here or “can’t be bothered to give a crap.”  The whole character arc with Don as far as these matters go is both that’s he’s aware of the problems, is concerned about them, and can’t figure out what to do or else isn’t willing to make the sacrifices necessary to do those things.  The eventual resolution of that problem will determine whether Don Draper’s family story ends up being a triumph or a tragedy.  For what it’s worth, I would bet it’s going to be the latter.  Tragedy is far more interesting from a character standpoint.  And lest we forget, this is a work of fiction we’re speaking about, and not a case study.

Comment #75: Felix Culpa  on  09/22  at  06:17 PM

The Winters woman tells the summer man, “Men never know what’s going on.”

“I’ve offered you money and said thank you!”

The creators want us to watch, very carefully, what is being unsaid, or unemphasized.

The issue of blacks not being on a television show is the point.  Because in 1965, they weren’t. The creators are doing well to

recapture the mood, and it’s almost heartening to see the internet sputter in confusion. The whole story isn’t being told, because

back then, the creators felt little need to tell it, and advertisers saw no reason to pay for it.

So therefore the biggest issue of this episode is corporate advertising itself, and how its decisions warp everything. Abe’s

earnest anti-corporate insistence isn’t merely an ironic or period set piece—he’s affected a main character with his activism.

Remember: not just anti-racist—anti-corporate. A position that is incredibly hard to express on corporate-funded

mass media.

Sally’s innocent confusion of Mrs. Butterworth’s with a rum jumbee bottle was

too good for the writers to pass up: The Caribe devil as a calypso musician, echoing Peggy’s fave Harry Belafonte, and thereby

doubly echoing the evil of corporations, since the Rum Triangle was an early corporate endeavor.

But why Mrs. Butterworth, who had only been on the market for under a year in 1965? Is she the woman one imagines

when serving up batter for breakfast? Didn’t everyone initially wonder when they first watched that scene unfold, “where is—?

Well. Why bother writing her name. She’s the invisible 300-pound mammy in the room.

That’s the power of advertising.

And that is a corporate power over our behaviour.  The creators are having none of it, except they have a small problem:

Their livelihoods are based on not making advertisers look bad. Like bad boys? That’s fine.  But indict them for ruining the world?

They’re still not fine with that.

I think the Mad Men creators have been hard-pressed to move forward on the issue of race because so many corporate

sponsors have a tarnished rep from that time. They don’t want to revisit those facts, they want only the sexy ‘60s not the ugly

‘60s. Yes, just the beautiful ones.

So how to show that which isn’t seen? An emu can hide its head in the sand, but it still can be found by someone solving the

blanks of a cryptic crossword.

This is how I know they are serious about delivering an anti-corporate message under the radar: Through their fake corporations.

In season one, set in 1960, we had Belle Jolie. A cosmetics company that the characters would use to question the value and

purpose of cosmetics. Can’t see the real Maybelline being too happy to attach to that. And now we have fictional Fillmore Auto

Parts, who won’t hire blacks in the South, and have found themselves under boycott.

Belle Jolie = BJ
Fillmore Auto Parts = FAP

These are fourth-wall jokes: “fap” is millennial, and even “blow job” wasn’t a term for fellatio until 1961. But the bathroom insults aren’t just innocent giggles;

they point the middle finger to corporations absenting themselves from responsibility. Everyone wants their product highlighted on

Mad Men. Except when the truth of what they did back then is too embarrassing.

There’s a lot that’s seen by being unseen in this episode. For instance, rubber. That seems to be the real solution to Joyce’s soup

riddle: How can a woman contain the soup of a man? (Pots need to be washed, not discarded after use.) Also, closer to the

point, many critical but replaceable auto parts (the fan belt is mentioned) are made from rubber.

Jeez, Yamara. What does rubber have to do with 1960s capitalist malfeasance?

Where did that even come from?

The episode’s most striking indictment of all though, is Miss Blankenship’s death. I’ll get to that in a later comment.

Comment #76: Yamara  on  09/22  at  06:18 PM

sigh
i hate notepad

Comment #77: Yamara  on  09/22  at  06:19 PM

now in legible non-word wrap…

Comment #78: Yamara  on  09/22  at  06:19 PM

The Winters woman tells the summer man, “Men never know what’s going on.”

“I’ve offered you money and said thank you!”

The creators want us to watch, very carefully, what is being unsaid, or unemphasized.

The issue of blacks not being on a television show is the point.  Because in 1965, they weren’t. The creators are doing well to recapture the mood, and it’s almost heartening to see the internet sputter in confusion. The whole story isn’t being told, because back then, the creators felt little need to tell it, and advertisers saw no reason to pay for it.

So therefore the biggest issue of this episode is corporate advertising itself, and how its decisions warp everything. Abe’s earnest anti-corporate insistence isn’t merely an ironic or period set piece—he’s affected a main character with his activism. Remember: not just anti-racist—anti-corporate. A position that is incredibly hard to express on corporate-funded mass media.

Sally’s innocent confusion of Mrs. Butterworth’s with a rum jumbee bottle was too good for the writers to pass up: The Caribe devil as a calypso musician, echoing Peggy’s fave Harry Belafonte, and thereby doubly echoing the evil of corporations, since the Rum Triangle was an early corporate endeavor.

But why Mrs. Butterworth, who had only been on the market for under a year in 1965? Is she the woman one imagines when serving up batter for breakfast? Didn’t everyone initially wonder when they first watched that scene unfold, “where is—?

Well. Why bother writing her name. She’s the invisible 300-pound mammy in the room.

That’s the power of advertising.

And that is a corporate power over our behaviour.  The creators are having none of it, except they have a small problem: Their livelihoods are based on not making advertisers look bad. Like bad boys? That’s fine.  But indict them for ruining the world? They’re still not fine with that.

I think the Mad Men creators have been hard-pressed to move forward on the issue of race because so many corporate sponsors have a tarnished rep from that time. They don’t want to revisit those facts, they want only the sexy ‘60s not the ugly ‘60s. Yes, just the beautiful ones.

So how to show that which isn’t seen? An emu can hide its head in the sand, but it still can be found by someone solving the blanks of a cryptic crossword.

This is how I know they are serious about delivering an anti-corporate message under the radar: Through their fake corporations. In season one, set in 1960, we had Belle Jolie. A cosmetics company that the characters would use to question the value and purpose of cosmetics. Can’t see the real Maybelline being too happy to attach to that. And now we have fictional Fillmore Auto Parts, who won’t hire blacks in the South, and have found themselves under boycott.

Belle Jolie = BJ
Fillmore Auto Parts = FAP

These are fourth-wall jokes: “fap” is millennial, and even “blow job” wasn’t a term for fellatio until 1961. But the bathroom insults aren’t just innocent giggles; they point the middle finger to corporations absenting themselves from responsibility. Everyone wants their product highlighted on Mad Men. Except when the truth of what they did back then is too embarrassing.

There’s a lot that’s seen by being unseen in this episode. For instance, rubber. That seems to be the real solution to Joyce’s soup riddle: How can a woman contain the soup of a man? (Pots need to be washed, not discarded after use.) Also, closer to the point, many critical but replaceable auto parts (the fan belt is mentioned) are made from rubber.

Jeez, Yamara. What does rubber have to do with 1960s capitalist malfeasance?

Where did that even come from?

The episode’s most striking indictment of all though, is Miss Blankenship’s death. I’ll get to that in a later comment.

Comment #79: Yamara  on  09/22  at  06:20 PM

snobographer vs Felix Culpa:

Betty and Don are both oblivious to their responsibilities, but feel entitled to blame each other.

Sally’s presence upends everyone, who act startled, annoyed, exasperated and put upon:

Don: What!

Betty: What?

Joan: Why?

Faye: What!?

Suddenly, there’s the children to think of, but who expected to have to do that?

Well, one character is shown having a different reaction to Sally’s arrival, and I’ll address that in a few minutes. And not use Notepad for cut-and-paste.

Comment #80: Yamara  on  09/22  at  06:38 PM

I don’t think, for instance, that Don was actually trying to test Faye in any way when he foisted Sally on her.  He just assumed that women know what to do with children.

God they STILL do this. My father made me “babysit” for children I didn’t even know because they were his work buddy’s kids and didn’t have the decency to tell me I was doing it that evening until I got home from school that day. And this was 1990. I had NO idea what to do. I remember being so livid that I just sat on the couch reading a book, not conversing except for telling the kids to tell their parents to never have me come over again.
And the number to times it’s been assumed that I want to hold someone’s baby as it gets passed from woman to woman is annoying.

I felt deep, deep sadness/empathy for Sally this episode because it’s hard, at that age, to make adults see that you do have a life of your own and watn to make your own choices but you don’t have the words for how deeply you’re feeling something. So it all comes out in a bad way (running down the hall) and makes you seem more like a child - which frustrates you more, etc. Vicious circle. See above story.

I did think it was funny when (I can’t remember who) says “Get a man!” and they get just about the worst one they could, Pete Campbell who flops his arms about and whines soundlessly through the window.

A great episode all in all.

Comment #81: Danica Lefse Queen  on  09/22  at  08:14 PM

The Winters woman tells the summer man, “Men never know what’s going on.”

Don Draper had been working on waking up last week, but that seems over now. He’s back to old habits: Jumping straight into bed, taking some alcohol when things get bad… even the hat is back, though only in his hand, not on his head.  His inner voice was fleeting, and he cannot hear it anymore.

He can’t hear it, because he doesn’t need its help. And he had only helped himself, and only very briefly.

“I’m hanging up now.”

He’s back to sleepwalking, and the effects are invisible to him and devastating to those around him.

Peggy is awakening, but she isn’t sure yet. Don’s position is clear—he is punting responsibility: “Our job is to make men like Fillmore, not Fillmore like Negroes.”

Everyone on the net is a expert logician on false equivalency these days, but that line still simply sounds like “Negroes are not men.” And women are the null set, not even known to exist.

Becoming aware of corporate indifference is a new thing in 1965 America. The cigarette companies are starting to feel pressure, but they can always blame tobacco itself: They may sell it, but they didn’t invent it. This will change shortly in 1966 with Ralph Nader’s Unsafe At Any Speed, attacking the entire automobile industry, and growing public awareness of a little practice known as planned obsolescence. As Gracchus likes to point out, this attitude is warping human relationships into Human Resources, and the initial backlash to this irresponsible corporate behaviour was quite strong.

War crimes are brought up in Abe’s essay, but it is the banality of evil, as defined by Hannah Arendt in 1963, that allows such crimes to happen, killing through indifference and negligence.

Killing people such as Ida Blankenship.

If Blankenship’s death was a comic subplot, the question is, what purpose did it serve?  ...  The point of the episode is that stepping off the beaten path isn’t easy, especially when you feel alone.  That’s the reason the final shot was on the three women in the elevator, staring into different directions and not speaking.  Their pain, their lovesickness, their confusion—-all this would be relieved if they actually turned to each other, but they don’t. -Amanda, emphasis mine

When a tragedy introduces a buffoon, the hackles on my neck go up. I don’t need to be told to pay attention, but I’m unusual like that. Most people take the comic relief for what it is, cf. the internet re Miss Blankenship.

When I first read John Ford’s play ‘Tis Pity She’s A Whore in college, I was finding the buffoon Bergetto a bit tiresome, as the meat of the tale was dark exploration of power and incest.  But I understood the need for comic relief—or thought I did going in. Bergetto would always be saying something stupid or foolishly presumptuous, and he was there for both the characters and the audience to laugh at.

Then in Act III (of five) an angry heavy lies in wait, and mistakes Bergetto for his mark. He stabs him swiftly and leaves the stage.  But unlike Polonius in Hamlet, the stabbing doesn’t silence him. He is in the process of dying, and is still a blubbering buffoon:

Bergetto. I am sure I cannot piss forward and backward, and yet I am wet before and behind; lights! lights! ho, lights!

 

This is his own blood.  He goes on to explain to friends rushing to him that he is in a terrible sweat, so that you might wring out his shirt. He remains true to his dim character as he passes away, which only redoubles the horror of raw murder.  And there are still two acts to go.

So ever since she was introduced, I’ve been watching Ida like a hawk, waiting for this. Now the creators have asked we all pay attention to the unseen and unemphasized in this episode.

(continued)

Comment #82: Yamara  on  09/23  at  12:17 AM

(continued from #82)

Harry cares about his afghan because his mother made it, but not so much about the old woman who is right there dead. Amanda is right, the Young Turks laugh at the death, Harry cracking more bigoted jokes, something they all laugh at and we know they shouldn’t. This is an indictment of the audience, though, too. Why should this be funny?

Bert and Roger, with more yesterdays than tomorrows, wrestle with it more like adults for once. Ruminating in Roger’s ultramodern suite, Bert is inspired to name Ida an astronaut. This is the highest praise of the era—the profession arguably produced the last unadulterated heroes of mankind. But a skyscraper is not low earth orbit, and what is unsaid is that there are no female astronauts; only one propaganda-driven cosmonaut, causing the US to not even try. Even Star Trek almost failed to be picked up that year due to its pilot (“The Cage”) featuring a female first officer of the Enterprise; NBC would let them try again (“Where No Man Has Gone Before”) once Roddenberry promised to drop her.

More invisibles: Some on the net have thought that Pete Campbell’s only appearance was the pantomime of disposing of the body. They do take delight in Pete popping up, as do I. Actually, he has a line as the gurney rolls through reception. (“The morgue.”) Others believe not a black person is to be seen anywhere in this episode. Wrong again, same scene—one of the coroner’s men is clearly not pink.

People pay attention to the shiny funny things, and want to ignore the sad bits.

MANY people online have suggested Miss Blankenship was dead when Don last spoke to her. That would get him off the hook, though, wouldn’t it? That would absolve him of all responsibility. It was simply too late. “Poor thing.”

Don Draper let a woman die right in front of him on Sunday, while he still could have tried to save her. He missed it, and so did you. And then you laughed.

She wasn’t dead. She was dying. And that’s not really so funny. Dying can be played for laughs, as can ignoring someone dying. But the very fact that her dying is unseen, and hidden from the audience destroys any possibility that this is comedy.

Yeah, I saw the Monty Python sketch of them wheeling her out. Consummate performances. But that comes after, not during. 

Let’s look at before.

Don has already shipped Sally to his office, and sent off Vivian Winters with an insult. He returns to his office to take charge of the chaos that his runaway has started.

But Blankenship greets him with a smile: “She looks so chubby in the pictures!” (How un-Blankenship a line! Sunny, attentive—and aware of Don’s family. Sally and she seem to have had a positive start, as Sally asks after her the next day.)

“Get her mother on the phone, now.” Don waves into the glass conference room. Then we’re treated to a shot of the meeting from Ida’s POV. This is establishing. Then back to facing Ida as she dials up Betty. The scene follows Don into the office to confront Sally.

Blankenship’s last dialogue is on the intercom: “Mrs. Francis is on the line.” Don and Betty then have their telephone row over Sally. Maybe Ida hears it, and maybe she only hears half of it through the door, but we know she likes Sally.  How could this squabble not cause her stress?

all this would be relieved if they actually turned to each other, but they don’t

After the call, Don marches out, thinking only of his clients, and he faces Blankenship, who is hunched over at the far left of the frame. (When Peggy—the attentive one—later finds her in rictus, her is head thrown back, and it’s noticeable from way down the hall.) Jon Hamm may be performing before a mannequin, because there’s just a wig and shoulder seen, but she is not thrown back, and she is not off-screen. And he is looking right at her for emphasis as he says:

“I don’t want to hear it. Just make sure she doesn’t leave that room.”

Hear what? Don’s reaction means he noticed her trying to say something. But he didn’t want to hear it. It doesn’t take any guesswork to know what she wanted to say; something along the lines of

Help me, Mr. Draper.

Don has to get back to his meeting. His job is to get men to like Fillmore. His daughter has to stay corralled while he helps destroy more of her world.

Oh, and Ida still isn’t dead. Still only dying. Her phone rings, and she hasn’t the strength to answer it. The last shot before the break is back to the POV as she watches Don behind glass. Reflections blur the other characters, but Don is perfectly framed by a dark rectangle, and he flashes his perfect smile.

 

Ida Blankenship dies as we watch the commercials.

Comment #83: Yamara  on  09/23  at  12:20 AM

Yamara,  good close reading of Ida’s death.

Comment #84: pasteymachine  on  09/23  at  01:12 AM

“I’ve offered you money and said thank you!”

I wondered at the time if that was a callback to Don’s and Peggy’s exchange in “The Suitcase:”

Peggy: You never thanked me!

Don: That’s what the money was for!

I read the women’s horror as mute sympathy for a girl who is essentially motherless, and unable to be openly recognized as such.

Even if one believes that Sally is “essentially motherless,” the fact still remains that none of those women knew ANYTHING about Sally’s home life. The sum total of what they they know is that her parents are divorced, she was having some kind of outburst, and she fell down. In their well-ordered office world, that’s enough to upset them.

Comment #85: ttintagel  on  09/23  at  11:29 AM

Even if one believes that Sally is “essentially motherless,” the fact still remains that none of those women knew ANYTHING about Sally’s home life. The sum total of what they they know is that her parents are divorced, she was having some kind of outburst, and she fell down. In their well-ordered office world, that’s enough to upset them.
Comment #85: ttintagel on 09/23 at 10:29 AM

I don’t agree.  Secretaries know a lot about their bosses, and share it with other secretaries.  They all know very well what kind of guy Don is and can guess from that what kind of father he is.  They’ve all met Betty and can guess from that what kind of mother she is.

Even if they don’t know specifically about Sally’s situation, they will know about families of divorce and how hard that is on the kids.  Unlike men who can pretend everything’s okay and no one can call them to task for it, women end up having to deal with the fallout one way or another, containing pots for messy human emotions and problems.

Sally is between.  Between trains, between parents, between ages, between dependence and independence, between wanting to be comforted and wanting to be left alone.

Comment #86: oldfeminist  on  09/23  at  12:39 PM

Yamara, good close reading of Ida’s death.
Comment #84: pasteymachine on 09/23 at 12:12 AM

Seconded.  Thanks, Yamara.

Comment #87: oldfeminist  on  09/23  at  12:41 PM

@75 - And lest we forget, this is a work of fiction we’re speaking about

duh

@80 - Exactly. Except Betty is disturbed enough by Sally’s discontent to be pissed off about it. And she’s following Dr. Edna’s and Henry’s advice. Don just manages Sally until he can find a woman to unload her on or barks orders at Betty to “come get her!” It never occurs to him to ask Sally why she’d risked life and limb to come all the way to Manhattan by herself to see him, or why she hates it at home. And even after that very eventful day with Sally crashing the office and his secretary dropping dead at her desk, he had nothing to write in his journal. Nothing worth noting happened that day.
He also gives Faye a hug and makes plans to see her that weekend, but not Sally, who obviously needs those things more than Faye does. When it comes down to it, he just grabs Sally’s arm and tries to drag her out to the lobby.

I did notice that scene where Don comes out of his office and speaks to an uncharacteristically silent Miss Blankenship as the phones ring off the hook. I figured she was already dead, but maybe we were to interpret that she was dying. And when Megan pulled him out of the meeting the second time, he says, “she was fine a minute ago.” There was also a thematic parallel of Miss Blankenship and Sally both literally falling on their faces, and everybody else at some point figuratively falling on their faces.

@85 & 86 - And as women they remember what it was like to be girls Sally’s age. To have opinions and feelings and wants and needs that nobody’s interested in. Megan particularly.

Comment #88: snobographer  on  09/23  at  08:59 PM

I personally feel that Peggy is headed towards hiring a black copywriter, and that the fact that the person who mugged Joan and Roger was black is going to come into play in a major office conflict.

But, I have no real reason for thinking that, so I could be full of it.
Comment #22: AnglScarlett on 09/21 at 12:30 PM

Just noticed that the Nancy Drew book that Sally’s reading is the Clue of the Black Keys.

Comment #89: oldfeminist  on  09/25  at  06:37 PM

Thanks, guys.

But it looks like we can’t have nice things:

Mel Gibson to appear in ‘Mad Men’

Comment #90: Yamara  on  09/26  at  12:08 PM
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