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McCain meets (in private) with Log Cabin Republicans

UPDATE: The Freeper reaction to the hush-hush meeting is below the fold.

In a get-together not on McSame’s public schedule, he met with members of the Log Cabin Republicans. Gee, why wasn’t this a big public event—you know, to help educate the rest of the LGBT community about John McCain being down with the homos, that he’s “unashamed, unembarrassed and proud” to associate with the pro-marriage equality gay organization?  Gay Patriot received confirmation from LCR head Patrick Sammon:

A source with close ties to the Log Cabin Board of Directors provided information about the meeting to GayPatriot earlier this week.  This source disclosed that the Log Cabin meeting was not reflected on Senator McCain’s published schedule in advance and the meeting.  A second source familiar with the Log Cabin-McCain meeting reports that Senator McCain has routine personal meetings that are not shown on the Senator’s public schedule.

...Log Cabin President Patrick Sammon confirmed the meeting with Senator McCain in email correspondence with GayPatriot earlier today:

“We’ve had a series of productive meetings with the campaign since Sen. McCain won the nomination—including a recent meeting with the Senator.  We expect to have more conversations with the campaign as we head toward November.” — Patrick Sammon, Log Cabin Republicans President — June 25, 2008

Is this what we call—ahem—back-door diplomacy? There’s no mention of the meeting on the Log Cabin web site or its blog. Wouldn’t this be news his campaign wants to break as part of his

outreach

to the LGBT community?

Besides, it’s not like McCain’s going to get Dobson’s vote this time around—if it’s truly a big GOP tent in 2008, this should be nice news to promote in the MSM.  I’m looking forward to reading the McCain press release on this glorious event, particularly given the news today about Arizona’s Senate rejecting a marriage amendment proposal he supported.
Before we get too smug, a reminder—Hillary Clinton did the same thing last year, meeting with the Human Rights Campaign, even giving a speech and didn’t bother to make any mention of it on her web site, blog or post video on her YouTube page. She was asked twice about why her meeting was not mentioned at all and the response was “You’ll have to ask my campaign.” So the whole triangulation problem is not solely a GOP problem.

I really don’t have a problem with McCain meeting with the LCRs, but I think it speaks volumes that he courts them behind closed doors. If this meeting is to be part of our “education” about his purported fairness, I’d think the LCRs would be eager to share with the LGBT community McCain’s plans to address issues of civil equality—on the record—not in whispers into ears in order to garner an endorsement.

Clearly if McCain doesn’t fear the vitriol of Dobson, he has an opportunity here to effect real change in the “family values” party by calling out the hypocrisy of the religious right that has held the GOP hostage for decades now. He could reject state amendments on the principle of not putting civil rights on the ballot (not punting with a statement about the right of states to do so—also used by Clinton and Obama).

That’s how the rubber meets the road. I look forward to the day when a Republican candidate actually courts the LGBT vote and the primary decision doesn’t have to revolve around whether the GOP candidate isn’t on a mission to deny or restrict our rights, and it can be strictly about domestic and foreign policy matters.

We all win when our votes are not discounted (GOP) or taken for granted (Dems).

NOTE: And on the flip side—an event not behind closed doors— a media advisory from the the Democratic National Committee:

Michelle Obama will keynote the Democratic National Committee’s June 26th Gay and Lesbian Leadership Council (GLLC) Gala at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, New York First Lady Michelle Paterson, and Providence Mayor and President of the National Conference of Democratic Mayors David Cicilline are among the other speakers at the dinner.

And here is the Freeper response to McCain’s hush-hush LCR meeting…


Actual Freeper Quotes

McLame is shaking down fools for campaign cash since he’s getting the big zero from the grass roots. Cash n Kerry Juan McAmnesty.

Good for McCain. Homosexuality is wrong. However, all people are equally love by Christ. Love the sinner and hate the sin.

What BS is he telling them. What fools conservatives are to ever allow these POS to become leaders of this ONCE great nation.

Pretty transparent attempt to keep the LCRs from voting for Obama, and perhaps bring middle-of-the-road Democrats across the line (the ones who are okay with gay rights but not okay with Obama’s socialism). Whether this is a winning plan is a whole different question.

Gotta give him credit for trying.

“Or is there no game at all and he’s simply acting out of decency towards a GOP constituency?”

I think McCain is acting out of decency. The LCR’s are admirable in that they put national security and freedom over their personal issues. I am glad McCain is reaching out here.

Frankly, I have no trouble with this. I don’t care what two consenting adults do in their bedroom. My problem is with the leftist anti-family “homosexual agenda.” And the Log Cabin Republicans by and large oppose that agenda, too.

I agree with you and applaud you for being brave and standing above the crowd….it’s not for us to judge and I also applaud McCain on this…

I live in a neighborhood with a huge gay popoulation. I Don’t agree with lifestyle but there are many I speak with who are republicans and a few who are dems who can’t vote for Obama and voting McCain. there are also gays I have talked with who also don’t agree with the recent marriage decision here in Calif. Also know several who are gay and in the military.

Appeasement never wins. These perverts offer nothing to the GOP or McCain. Just one more click on the path to my non-vote in this election.

If the alternative were Clinton (either), Kerry, Gore, or even Carter, then I’d sit this one out. We would survive them. Problem is the alternative is Obama, the dims answer to Chavez and Imadinnerjacket. Bad as McCain is, we CANNOT let that happen.

is that meeting with the LCRs could actually cost him votes among the most strident members of a social conservative base that’s not real keen on him to begin with and even less so after he dumped Hagee and Parsley. The associations with the Log Cabin Republicans or his disassociation with Parley and Hagee mean little if anything to me. He lost my vote because of his associations within the snakepit of treachery known as the United States Senate. He sleeps with Teddy Kennedy as in McCain-Kennedy.

Believe in redemption. Hate the sin, not the sinner. Whether you believe it or not, Christ loves these people(gays) as much as he loves you. Reaching out to them is extremely Christ-like. Check who Christ spent his time with.

Wow, McCain is doing his best to make it very difficult for any Conservative to vote for him. First he meets with La Raza, now he meets with the Log Cabin Republicans(perverts). Please tell me why I should vote for the lesser of two evils.

I most certainly do believe in the powers of redemption and pray that practicing homosexuals come to the realization of their sins against God and nature. Catering to the unrepentant homosexual agenda by politicians, such as McCain in this instance, does nothing but embolden them in their quest for recognition and legitimacy. Neither is deserved. By the way, this group doesn’t merely wish to “be left alone in their bedrooms.” Read up on them and then come back and let us know what you find in terms of their agenda.

At least he refuses to meet with Evangelical Christian conservatives.

I know gays I like and some I don’t like so much. I think it’s not for me to judge their soul if they live their lives decently like most the rest of us.

In 2004, the candidates on the ballot in region of the U.S. were George W. Bush for President, Alan Keyes for U.S. Senate, and Ray Wardingley for U.S. Congress. Our Log Cabin “Republicans” in Illinois supported Kerry over Bush, Obama over Keyes, and Bobby “black panther” Rush over Wardingley. Why? Because none of their “fellow” Republicans on the ballot supported special rights for gays.

I don’t care what they call themselves, the Log Cabin crowd exists only to inflitrate the GOP and get it to support the RAT agenda. They are NOT Republicans, just a Democrat front group. The only “Republicans” they endorse are RINOs who promise to vote for the radical gay agenda. A REAL Republican group endorses the candidate closest to their own views in the primary, and then backs whoever the party nominee is in the general election.

If they were a group of conservative-minded gays whose motive was to get other liked-minded pro-life, pro-gun, lower-tax, less-spending, anti-amnesty, pro-WOT people who HAPPEN to be gay—to pull the lever for Republicans, I’d be fine with that.

That is not their motive. Their motive is simply to make the GOP socially liberal and pro gay-marriage. And that is the ONLY issue that will get them to endorse “Republicans”.

In short, they are the Log Cabin Democrats and ought to advertise themselves as such.

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 09:00 AM • (13) Comments

It’s not just that they’re meeting behind closed doors.  It’s that he will not raise a finger or support queer-positive policy positions, and never really has.  The Uncle Marys will try to sell this meeting as some kind of proof that he’s gay-friendly, while ignoring that he shares the same policy positions that Bush did.

Comment #1: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  06/26  at  09:09 AM

How does McCain’s sneaking around on this help him?  Even if he managed to convince every single LCR to vote for him, this cannot be kept secret from the fundnuts (at least some of them) who will take him meeting with LCRs as further evidence that he’s soft on the “moral” issues they hold so dear.

Best case LCR votes balance out fundnut defections.  Worst case it’s a net loss for McCain.

At least if he was making this higher profile, he might get some (misguided) centrist votes for appearing to be less bigoted…

Comment #2: MikeEss  on  06/26  at  09:28 AM

I think a good title for this post would have been “Log Closet Republicans.”

Or maybe it’s that the GOP doesn’t really want to be a “big tent” party, but they’re willing to be a “big closet” party?

I don’t know, I feel like there’s something there, but I’m having trouble pinning it down. I imagine LCR members murmuring to each other, “We’re here, we’re queer… but let’s face it, they’re never going to get used to it, so we’ll take what we can get.”

Comment #3: FearItself  on  06/26  at  09:53 AM

I don’t care what two consenting adults do in their bedroom. My problem is with the leftist anti-family “homosexual agenda.”

But…I thought not caring about what consenting adults do in their bedroom was the homosexual agenda.  Ya know, equal rights regardless of what happens in the bedroom?

Though the first part of that quote is stunning coming from Freeperland.

Comment #4: Caren, Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  06/26  at  10:47 AM

Actually, I think Dobson will support McCain in November, and he’s setting it up right now.

Comment #5: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  06/26  at  11:04 AM

Pretty transparent attempt to keep the LCRs from voting for Obama, and perhaps bring middle-of-the-road Democrats across the line (the ones who are okay with gay rights but not okay with Obama’s socialism). Whether this is a winning plan is a whole different question.

Who let the relatively sane person into Freeper-land?

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Comment #7: Ghazala Khan  on  06/26  at  11:18 AM

I like the assertion that one of the Freepers knows some gays in California who disagree with same-sex marriage. I suppose there could be some queers so self-loathing that they think they don’t deserve the right to visit their partner in the hospital or share benefits, but I’m going to guess the writer is making it up and he has gay “friends” like I have fundie friends. There were some people I worked with and some neighbors, but I never had more than the minimum civilities required of polite people.

Comment #8: onejewishdyke  on  06/26  at  11:19 AM

I like the assertion that one of the Freepers knows some gays in California who disagree with same-sex marriage.

Actually, there are gay people who would prefer marriage not be expanded.  Their reasons vary, but largely fall into a few categories like “too hetero” or “threat to gay culture” and even “ban all marriage” etc.

Within any group there will always be those who are resistant to change.  Hence LCRs in the first place.

Comment #9: Ms Kate  on  06/26  at  12:22 PM

Actually, there are gay people who would prefer marriage not be expanded.  Their reasons vary, but largely fall into a few categories like “too hetero” or “threat to gay culture” and even “ban all marriage” etc.

But those are the minority compared with those who say, “of course there should be equal access to marriage” while also believing that: marriage is too highly valued; that protections should be expanded to more families than just monogamous pairs certified through a ceremony; and that focusing so heavily on marriage has drawn resources away from other fights (like anti-discrimination legislation) and produced a hell of a backlash that has ended up hurting a hell of a lot of families.  I’d say that these marriage critical voices predominate on the queer left.

We also had a gay man in Massachusetts run for office against gay marriage because it was so special that it shouldn’t be expanded to gay families (yeah, he was a Republican).

Comment #10: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  06/26  at  12:41 PM

My favorite was “Christ loves these people(gays) as much as he loves you. Reaching out to them is extremely Christ-like.”

As in, Jesus was really big on running around saying to people, “I abhor your lifestyle, and believe in limiting your rights as a citizen, but will happily take your money to finance my run for power.”

Comment #11: Lymis  on  06/26  at  01:21 PM

Jesus was also big on having secret meetings he didn’t want to risk being seen with publicly, right?

That must be how he got to be GW Bush’s favorite political philosopher.

Comment #12: Redshift  on  06/26  at  01:29 PM

Probably that Freeper misunderstood an actual gay acquaintance saying, “I think ‘marriage’ should be religious and the legal aspect should be covered with partnerships,” and took that to mean that the gay person was ANTI-GAY MARRIAGE.

Either that, or it’s the wonderful new “Does gay care about homosexuals?!?” meme.

Comment #13: Faye  on  06/26  at  02:05 PM
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