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Men on the TV

I've been really happy with the reception I've gotten for a piece I did on masculinity and high-quality TV drama.  (It got reprinted on Jezebel, which I think may be my first byline for them, believe it or not.) Alyssa Rosenberg calls it "prestige TV", and I think that's exactly the right term.  It explains in part why I didn't talk about some shows people asked me about after I published this, such as "Lost".  "Lost" is actually a decent example of writers working similar themes about the crisis of masculinity---Jack's personal problems were overtly patriarchal in an often anvilicious way---but I was more interested in why this particular theme of men facing the demons of traditional masculinity was so compelling on highbrow television.  

Alyssa does write about one piece of prestige television that was definitely not on my list, even though it really did belong in many ways: "Deadwood".  I dropped it for a couple of reasons, one being that it failed to capture enough of an audience to become a successful series.  But it definitely belongs on the list.  How could it not, when it was a rewriting of the most traditionally masculine of genres, the one most wed to patriarchal definitions of a good man that are failing modern men?  Alyssa's got some interesting comments about the women on the show:

But Deadwood shows us a world where the men at the center of the frame — and the show has a less rigid main character than the other shows on Amanda’s list — spend a lot of time tailoring their expressions of masculinity to the presence of women, and women struggle with the opportunities to redefine themselves that, if not exactly expansive, are broader on the frontier than they were at home. I’m not done with the show, and obviously there are falls to come. But watching Alma Garrett kick her drug addiction, put off her widow’s mourning, make love to Seth Bullock, plot revenge with Whitney Ellworth, and curse E.B. Farnum, claiming the territory of masculine crudeness and dark thinking for her own, is glorious. Trixie may be my favorite female character in the age of prestige television, vulnerable and striving, cautious of liberation, aware that there is always a price to be paid and suspicious of Sol Star, a man who wants to subvert the economy of desire. And Calamity Jane is Brienne of Tarth, more wedded to conceptions of honor than anyone around her, even if she can’t live up to her astronomically high standards.

I think the other reason I dropped "Deadwood" is that it literally takes place before any modern version of feminism came into being.  Every other show I write about has characters who actually have dealt with the basic argument of feminism, that women are equal to men in the political, social, and economic sphere.  In the world of "Deadwood", feminism as we know it would be an anachronism even on a show known for them.  That said, the show comes the closest to "Mad Men" in terms of beginning with this interrogation of masculinity and ending up spending more and more time on women's reactions and lives.  Like I said in the original piece, there's often this slow drift in these shows towards looking at the women more, and I think part of it is once the writers get invested in the characters, women's dilemmas of survival in a patriarchy become more interesting.

Still, maybe it's because I'm watching it now, but I really do think "Breaking Bad" is increasingly the most ruthless of the shows in its examination of the failure of the patriarchal worldview to really explain reality.  Walter is just such an asshole.  

Spoiler alert for the most recent episode.

My sense that they're being deliberate about their gender criticism was only enhanced in the most recent episode.  It was implied in the final scene that Gus is gay, or at least bisexual, and that he was hardened when his partner and lover was murdered.  It was simply implied; it may have been that they were just friends.  But I don't think so.  If I'm right, then they're doing something similar to "The Wire" in making one of the hardest characters on the show gay and queering the whole notion of masculinity.  One that I'll point out that Walt is deeply invested in, both in the sense of his role as the patriarch who controls and provides for his family, and in his sense that by being a badass criminal, he's finally proven himself as a man in a way that he could not as a schoolteacher.  

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 05:38 PM • (34) Comments

Really great article.

Comment #1: wsn  on  09/08  at  06:38 PM

I love Deadwood cause I think it’s also a great takedown of libretarianism too.

And about the breaking bad spoiler I didn’t catch that at the time, but thinking back on the episode it makes soooo much sense.

Comment #2: Tersa  on  09/08  at  06:51 PM

It’s interesting that you bring up the “Walter White was always an asshole” issue again.  I just listened to Bryan Cranston on the Nerdist podcast and he’s also bought into the idea that his character is just your basic decent guy who’s been forced into these brutal behaviors due to circumstances.  I think in the end, what the actor thinks of his role doesn’t necessarily matter all that much.  It certainly hasn’t affected his stellar performance.  But it surprised me to hear him say that.

Comment #3: Blitzgal  on  09/08  at  07:06 PM

his character is just your basic decent guy who’s been forced into these brutal behaviors due to circumstances.

I think he’s talking about the characters’ concept of himself, which of course would make sense.  Some of the best villains are “unaware” of how overbearing and destructive they are when they are doing their thing.

Anyone hear about this example of life imitating art?:

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. (KABC)—A local college professor suspected of being the leader of a motorcycle drug gang is on the run following a raid on his home.

Last year, 43-year-old Stephen Kinzey was a physical fitness professor at California State University, San Bernardino.

“I’m stunned. I can’t believe it,” said student Drew Peterson.

Peterson said he never would have thought his professor could be the alleged leader of an outlaw motorcycle gang, specializing in narcotics and high-powered weapons.

“He would talk about his biker buddies, or his brothers, and say that they had each others’ backs and were basically family,” said Peterson.

Kinzey lived in East Highland, and his neighbors said they didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary.

“Almost every weekend, he had at least four to five motorcycle people there, and they never seem to be doing any harm. They’d just be sitting in the driveway having beer,” said one neighbor.

But the sheriff’s department said there was much more to it than that. They recently raided Kinzey’s home and seized guns and drugs.

“This investigation came to an end when we were able to intercept a one-pound delivery [of drugs] to Kinzey’s home and then intercept the mid-level dealers who were arriving to pick up their supplies,” said Det. Jason Rosenbaum of the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department.

While Kinzey was not home during the raid, police said his former student and live-in girlfriend, Holly Robinson, was in the house. She was arrested for her part in the alleged drug sales.

So far, seven people have been arrested, but several others are still at large.

Anyone with information was asked to contact the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department at (909) 890-4840.

 

Comment #4: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  09/08  at  07:58 PM

I’m a huge Deadwood fan. In Al Swearengen David Milch and Ian McShane created the most vile/charismatic ode to fragile masculinity I’ve ever seen. You loathe him! You admire him! You don’t know whether you want to kill him, fuck him or be him! Amazing stuff.

The women of Deadwood relate to each other in really interesting ways. There’s a bond between them all, even the tertiary characters, that has a ‘sisterhood’ feel to it; they’re in this absolute shithole of oppression and disposability and each interaction has them reaching out, teaching, encouraging or protecting the other/s. Feminism-istic-ish for sure.

WTF is a Brienne of Tarth?

Comment #5: mir  on  09/08  at  08:01 PM

From your original piece:

But for all the feminism on TV, high quality dramas about women haven’t taken off.

What about Damages or The Good Wife? Lots of awards. Lots of ladies. And while Damages is less direct, The Good Wife is very explicitly about the role of the woman in the patriarchy.

Comment #6: the duck-billed placelot  on  09/08  at  08:13 PM

WTF is a Brienne of Tarth?

A character in A Song of Ice and Fire aka Game of Thrones.

Comment #7: wsn  on  09/08  at  08:21 PM

Don’t wikipedia Brienne of Tarth if you are only watching Game of Thrones and not reading the books and don’t want any spoilers.

Comment #8: Tersa  on  09/08  at  08:21 PM

I obviously love Deadwood, though I am not so sure I buy the Brienne/Jane analogy.  They had similar experiences regarding tragically ended, unrequited loves (SPOILER/Wild Bill Hickock), but Jane was more interested in fomenting indignation and offenses with which to excuse her finding the bottom of the next bottle while Brienne wanted skulls to crush.

Comment #9: Swedgin  on  09/08  at  08:24 PM

“I think the other reason I dropped “Deadwood” is that it literally takes place before any modern version of feminism came into being.  Every other show I write about has characters who actually have dealt with the basic argument of feminism, that women are equal to men in the political, social, and economic sphere.  In the world of “Deadwood”, feminism as we know it would be an anachronism even on a show known for them.”

Huh?  As I recall, Deadwood is set in the 1870s.  The women’s rights movement was active before the Civil War.  By the 1870s, Seneca Falls had happened, Fuller’s Woman in the Nineteenth Century had been published, New York had passed the Married Women’s Property Act, the American Equal Rights Association had already split into the National and American Women’s Suffrage Associations, and the women we typically think of when we think of American first-wave feminism (Stanton, Anthony, Mott, Stone) were active.  Woodhull ran for president in 1872.  By 1870, women had the vote in Wyoming and Utah.  There would be nothing anachronistic about the characters in Deadwood being aware of the debate surrounding women’s political equality and struggle for civil rights.

Comment #10: Kit-Kat  on  09/08  at  08:25 PM

She does qualify that with “modern version of feminism.”  The suffrage and temperance movements were in full swing, however modern Second Wave feminism was just on another level.

Comment #11: Blitzgal  on  09/08  at  08:55 PM

In the first half of the first season of Deadwood, Al Swearengen was basically a mustache twirling caricature of a badguy—I half expected him to tie Alma to the traintracks. But what they did with his particular brand of paternalism and masculinity was really profound, especially when you look at the last (well, unintentional, but you get the idea) scene of the show.

Comment #12: Mighty Ponygirl  on  09/08  at  09:20 PM

Like I said in the original piece, there’s often this slow drift in these shows towards looking at the women more, and I think part of it is once the writers get invested in the characters, women’s dilemmas of survival in a patriarchy become more interesting.

Also, there’s the idea that boys won’t read girls’ stories but girls will read boys’ stories.  If it starts off with interesting female characters who take up 50 percent of the face time, men will complain that it’s too girly.

You saw this with The Sopranos.  As the show evolved, more and more complaints that there wasn’t enough whacking appeared in places like Television Without Pity.

Comment #13: oldfeminist  on  09/08  at  10:38 PM

Normally, I’m not a fan of sword and sorcery quasi-Dark Ages fantasy: but although Game of Thrones’ also started in hypermasculinity, I stayed with the series for the women.

Also true of Boardwalk Empire and Mad Men.

Comment #14: judybrowni  on  09/09  at  01:14 AM

*Possible Breaking Bad spoilers if you haven’t already read the spoiler part of the original post.*

I just watched the most recent episode of Breaking Bad last night.  The thought of Gus being gay did not at any point cross my mind during that episode.  I wouldn’t be shocked if the character turned out to be gay, but I didn’t see it in that episode.  Gus and his partner refer to themselves as brothers though they are not.  In a sexual situation, that seems kind of gross.  Maybe they only refer to themselves as such in the name of the restaurant, and/or maybe it’s some sort of cover for their level of intimacy, but I didn’t take that scene any further than trying to build up the parallel between Walt and Jesse’s partnership and Gus’ early days before he was a bad-ass.

Comment #15: megamahan  on  09/09  at  01:56 AM

The first book, almost all the women you encounter are seriously screwed up or too weak to do anything around them… But that changes.

Comment #16: Crissa  on  09/09  at  01:57 AM

The first book, almost all the women you encounter are seriously screwed up or too weak to do anything around them… But that changes.

Wait - _Game of Thrones_?

Cersai is the main engine of conflict in the book, mainly acting through her brother who she has wrapped around her almighty cunny.  Isn’t she the one who really gets things rolling by telling him to throw Bran out the window?

I dunno about screwed up in *that* book - she was just a ruthless sociopathic medievial noble trying to get as much power as she could.  Her major problem then was that she was born with a vagina rather than a sword-arm.

Her real problems started after she got power - and started worrying about losing it…

Comment #17: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  09/09  at  02:33 AM

Treme gets no love again.  Ah, well.

Cool that you gave props to True Blood, but as mentioned in the comments at GMP, odd that you omitted Six Feet Under.

Speaking of Alan Ball, have any of you seen Towelhead?  It really gave me a glimpse into the seductive power of desire for teenage girls (and tangentially, for anyone).  I can’t be certain, but I feel like Ball is continuing to explore the power of desire in True Blood.  He certainly shows it, and it’s compelling to watch, but I can’t put a finger on anything deeper than that (at least not at 2:30am).

Also, too early for The Walking Dead to be mentioned even in the second tier.  I think only six episodes have aired?

Comment #18: NY Expat  on  09/09  at  03:28 AM

Yep, Kit-Kat. Those aren’t modern versions of feminism.

Comment #19: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/09  at  07:59 AM

Isn’t she the one who really gets things rolling by telling him to throw Bran out the window?

No. Jaime deresponsabilizes himself by saying “The things I do for love” but Cersei never actually asks for it.

Comment #20: BlackBloc  on  09/09  at  08:27 AM

Comment #6 - I was going to bring up the same point. While the shows staring women may not be as popular as the shows Amanda listed in her article*, there are in fact quite a lot of good, complex shows centering around women, many of them having quite a long run. You listed a couple of them and I’d ad Bones, Saving Grace, In Plain Sight and most especially The Closer. The character of Brenda Lee Johnson is very complex having to first prove her salt in a manly profession given her outward show of femininity. And in the current season she is dealing with the fall out of having made a callous decision regarding a murderer.

*Of course the fact that these shows don’t rate as high as the male-centered ones is due, in part at least, to sexism.

Comment #21: Livi  on  09/09  at  08:55 AM

But the article was more about prestige TV than crime procedurals.  Nothing against ‘em, but they’re by-the-books type of TV, and I was talking more about this new attempt to take it to the next level with TV storytelling.

Comment #22: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/09  at  09:26 AM

Comment #22: Amanda Marcotte - Fair enough, but that wasn’t clear from your article. “... high quality dramas about women haven’t taken off.” That simply isn’t true, and some of they shows you did mention are police procedurals. Your article is right on, but could have done without dismissing shows about women by only discussing the failure of The Killing.

Comment #23: Livi  on  09/09  at  09:38 AM

PiaToR - Crissa did say almost all of them.  Really, were there any others that was untrue of othr than Cersai?  I’d argue that as it ended that was changing for several female characters, but even she could only move power through her brother and sons, not on her own, throughout most of the f 1st book.

Comment #24: helen w. h.  on  09/09  at  09:59 AM

#10 KitKat:

As a native born Wyomingite, I was going to school Marcotte, but you beat me to it.

Comment #25: KingElvis  on  09/09  at  11:16 AM

I find it interesting that one of the comments to Amanda’s initial linked piece suggests Castle as a show about strong women. 
It has one strong female major characters and three female minor characters who seem strong (two who are family members of the main male character).  Most of the screen time and story line centers on three men and one woman.  This strikes me as an example of anything approaching parity is treated as if women were taking over.

Comment #26: helen w. h.  on  09/09  at  12:35 PM

Anyone watch the now cancelled Men of a Certain Age?  I just saw the first season.  I heart Andre Braugher.

Comment #27: rain  on  09/09  at  02:32 PM

Oh, yes, I adore Men of Certain Age, what a perfect example for this post. Especially Andre Braugher’s character.

Comment #28: Livi  on  09/09  at  02:45 PM

I thought this was an interesting article.  If I were a blogger with the silver finger-tips, I think how I would respond is that all of these shows cited by Amanda utilize variants of “It’s Hard To Be A Ma-un” dialectic with their various characters.  It’s a critique of masculinity for the sake of perpetuating it (not that this is what the show-runners set out to do, but…), and designed to assist the audience in empathizing with the characters rather than question the worth of what patriarchy purports to provide.

I would then hypothesize that often-times, a show’s success depends just as much on support and understanding by industry heads as they do Nielson ratings.  Therefore, I would compare and contrast the production history of the shows The Wire and Joan of Arcadia/Lost and Pushing Daisies.  In my writing, I would analyze the unusual amount of authority that Joan (of Arcadia) has over people who are supposed to be authority figures, and the systematic gender neutrality of God (non-judgy and encouraging of intellectual and emotional engagement).  I would contrast this with the tragic elements of The Wire in its sense of gritty permanent realism.  There is nothing for Les Moonves to dig about Joan of Arcadia and plenty of things that are threatening, personal and in media controversy.  The Wire, on the other hand, is committed to a realism that does not generally critique masculinity by some better light, and such critiques in general are softened by comedic elements á la Hamsterdam.  From HBO media figures pov, a show like this adds quite a few cool points without feeling personally challenged by the material, such that a weak performer got an amazingly long run with minimal interference.

On the other hand, Lost and Pushing Daisies are two shows that winds up having similar elements—conforming to an ideal of self and contrasting it with the ultimate of death (in a fantastical environment using ensemble acting).  While the characters on the Island run around in their own memories, trying to rearrange the meaning of their own actions, in Coeur de Coeur, Nebbish Ned is comfortably being nebbish with an anxiety surrounding perfection.  He doesn’t care about being manly, and his business partner with the pink shirt especially doesn’t care about manly virtues.  The Hero’s Path for Ned has nothing to do with glorious heroism, and everything to do with full-body condoms.  The mystery of the day often don’t even pretend to be difficult!  On the other hand, mystery on Lost is all-consuming, all the way to the title.  Various mysteries all interact with each other with many dead ends and interesting fluff, and the characters have to navigate what is a heads-eats-tail conundrum by ear and instinct.  What is compelling about Lost, I think, is about analyzing motivations in each of the characters and how they interact.  It wouldn’t be possible to make that fun without having characters enmeshed in stereotype threats, including and especially those surrounding masculinity.  Aesthetics (of the stage, of the life) drives the audience’s engagement in a show like Pushing Daisies.  Everyone can read Ned, and most everyone else like a book.  There isn’t really a need for masculinity unless the entire concept is mocked, which it is…

Think I’ll stop here, this is long enough, think the point got across.

Comment #29: shah8  on  09/09  at  04:35 PM

God, how I loved Deadwood. I watched it long after it was cancelled, knew that it ended more abruptly than it should have, and still found myself literally shaking my fist at the screen in a rage when I realized that there would never be any more episodes.

Fellow Treme fanatics (I am obsessed with that show), how do you feel about the character arcs of Davis and Antoine? While neither of them start out being strong patriarchs as such, I get the sense that their stories are also a certain deconstruction of traditional masculinity. Their growth as characters is a direct result of rejecting patriarchal mindsets and taking on nurturing roles (Davis, by encouraging Janette and Annie to pursue their passions and careers, knowing that he will never be as brilliant as either of them, Antoine by abandoning his philandering ways and becoming a schoolteachers). I don’t think I’ve seen anything quite like that on TV.

Comment #30: sabotabby  on  09/09  at  11:12 PM

sabotabby, I am encouraged by the arcs of Davis and Antoine. 

It was fun watching Antoine realize that being the leader of the band wasn’t just being bossy and taking the biggest slice, that there are consequences to others when you flake out and now he is taking them rather than dishing them out.

Davis’ final bow on stage with the martini would have been funnier had he not been essentially stealing the Flying Lizards’ schtick.

I was really worried that Sonny and Annie’s story would parallel a true-crime story I read about as a possible inspiration, and gratified that it did not.

And the arc with Ladonna and her husband dealing with her assault is another one that supports an alternate view of masculinity—the one where a man doesn’t respond to the rape of “his” woman with revenge fantasies about what’s been “stolen” from him.

And the truncated arc of Creighton doesn’t ridicule or shame him for not being strong enough to “take it.”

Comment #31: oldfeminist  on  09/10  at  06:40 PM

I guess I don’t get your definition of “modern feminism,” then.  You write: “Every other show I write about has characters who actually have dealt with the basic argument of feminism, that women are equal to men in the political, social, and economic sphere.”  But in fact, first-wave feminism did advance the argument that women are equal to men; it tended to focus on de jure discrimination and inequalities, believing, not unreasonably, that getting the vote was essential to advancing their agenda.

Comment #32: Kit-Kat  on  09/11  at  02:33 PM

I enjoyed the article- and this follow-up. I’m a big Deadwood fan and did note and appreciate how many of it’s writing staff was female, and how one of the primary themes was the conflict between the perception of women during that era vs. how tough you actually needed to be to survive in that environment- it made for a lot of very strong female characters. But I think that’s actually another reason why Deadwood didn’t qualify for your argument- it wasn’t really about the modern crisis of masculinity that male TV writers seem to find so fascinating, perhaps in part because it was a more gender-balanced writer’s room.

Comment #33: Destructor  on  09/12  at  12:17 AM

“Most of the screen time and story line centers on three men and one woman.”

Yes and no?  (although mostly yes).  The storyline with regards to the crime of the week, yes.  Actual screen time, not so much, as Plot B generally involves the mother and/or daughter and the same themes as the crime of the week, while Tweedle-dum and Tweedle-dee usually only provide a small amount of exposition for Plot A.

What I find most interesting is that while in the imaginary world we see, everything revolves around Castle (something that annoyed me enough that I turned the show off when I stumbled across a mid-season ep), in Castle’s imaginary world, everything revolves around Niki.  Something that is easier to see if you watch from the beginning, which is how I finally got into it.  (sorta, mostly).  So, clearly we are watching Castle because we live in the Patriarchy.  But in Castle’s world, everyone is reading about Niki Heat because, well…it’s still a patriarchy but less so?

“Also, there’s the idea that boys won’t read girls’ stories but girls will read boys’ stories.  If it starts off with interesting female characters who take up 50 percent of the face time, men will complain that it’s too girly.”

Perhaps this is why I’m finding that a lot of my favorite shows are ensemble shows.  It must be less threatening to pass the Bechdel test every episode when the two or three women that are on the show are still outnumbered by x number of men, where x = “number of women +1”  Mind you, these shows tend to also have The Man in Charge who is painted as an Everyman (but clearly has Issues) but I can generally deal with that much better than just Token Female or Girls Around the Edges.

Comment #34: jennygadget  on  09/13  at  01:12 AM
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