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Noble warriors vs. imaginary demons

Looks like the wingnuts have taken hold of New Mexico.  Here’s the new head of the state’s Energy, Minerals and Natural Resources Department on Alex Jones’ show, ranting about how environmentalists are just undercover communists conspiring to create false alarm over the environment.

New Mexico is one of the most beautiful states in the country, but the leadership now will happily wipe their asses with it to show the imaginary commies in their minds who’s boss.  That’s where we’re at as a country.  What’s scary, too, is this sort of thing doesn’t even stick out anymore, since so much Republican leadership is engaged in hysterical rants against imaginary enemies, and spinning conspiracy theories so they don’t have to face reality.  What makes this stick out from the herd is that it was done on Alex Jones’ show.  I remember, in college, one of the ways we used to get cheap, adolescent laughs was call into Jones’ show and challenge him, just to watch him get even crazier.  He was the leader of the black helicopter guys, and, if you can believe it, it’s gotten even uglier and weirder since then.  It was always alarming to me how popular Jones was, but I rationalized that a lot of it was folks like me, who found his “nothing I believe in is real!” act to be amusing and, at times, endearing.  But who fucking knows?  It appears that a lot of people take this shit seriously, seriously enough to elect these folks to offices where they can do real damage. 

In the many years since then, though, Jones has gone from an out-there kook to the role of a front runner in where the mainstream right is headed.  He complains regularly that Glenn Beck steals his act, and he should, since Beck totally steals his act.  Which means that we’re probably going to get some intimations that enemies are suffering from demon possession from Beck any day now.  (Do Mormons believe that? I have no idea, but I don’t think Beck is constrained by something as simple as the actual teachings of his church.) 

Fred Clark is a man of remarkable insight when it comes to the inner workings of the wacky right, since he’s basically made the transition from being in the thick of it to being a sensible person who lives in the real world.  He recently wrote a post about anti-choicers, and their fantasy that they’re doing something important and noble and brave, when in fact they’re basically being petty little cowards. I think his thoughts are relevant when discussing the conspiracy theories of anti-environmentalists, as well.

Let’s pretend that our unremarkable lives of quiet desperation are actually epic quests in the service of something meaningful. Let’s pretend our lives are driven by some purpose. Let’s pretend we are engaged in the great moral struggle of our time—that we are opposing some massive and twisted evil. Let’s pretend that this struggle requires courage and commitment and let’s pretend that we possess those things. Let’s pretend that we are all that stands between this country and brutal chaos—that we and we alone are the ones keeping it all together.

Let’s pretend we are not who we actually are. Let’s pretend that our lives are not what they actually are. Let’s pretend.

It’s one of the best and most telling posts I’ve ever read, especially since Fred has lived it from the inside.  I think his observations really apply here.  Conspiracy theories and fantasies proliferate on the right because the right is basically about stalling progress, and putting up roadblocks to a better world.  But saying out loud that you don’t want a better world is intolerable.  The ego cannot handle admitting to itself that you oppose feminism and environmentalism because you’re petty, vindictive, or selfish.  And so imaginary enemies are created.  Fantasies like the ones Fred describes are lived in until reality feels less real than the fantasy.  You don’t oppose abortion because you’re a petty person who can’t stand the idea that other people are living their lives without your control or even input.  Oh no!  You’re like an abolitionist!  And you’re not an anti-environmentalist because you’re petty, hostile to change, and don’t want to be bothered to think about how wasteful you’ve been all your life and why that needs to change.  You’re fighting a worldwide conspiracy of communism that just happens to involve the vast majority of scientists in the world! 

Obviously, there’s liberal fantasists, as well.  Anti-vaccination types and 9/11 Truthers come to mind, though it’s well worth pointing out that both subcultures have more than their fair share of right wingers, whereas most right wing conspiracy theory subcultures have few, if any liberals.  And these folks have similar motivations—-there’s a truth they can’t handle for some reason (in my experience, they’re highly privileged people who cannot accept the basic reality of bad luck, and bad luck is both the main reason for autism and the Bush administration being poised to take political advantage of 9/11), and so fill in a fantasy where they’re noble, brave people speaking truth to power.  But generally speaking, this stuff hasn’t taken off with liberals and I think it’s because we have real problems to deal with, and are familiar with how tedious and un-noble it can feel to grind at these on a day to day basis. 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 10:38 AM • (37) Comments

Nice piece, Amanda, and funny to boot.

I don’t have much to add, but for those interested in fundie fantasy ideologies I’d recommend this piece by Lee Harris:

What I saw as a political act was not, for my friend, any such thing. It was not aimed at altering the minds of other people or persuading them to act differently. Its whole point was what it did for him.

And what it did for him was to provide him with a fantasy — a fantasy, namely, of taking part in the revolutionary struggle of the oppressed against their oppressors. By participating in a violent anti-war demonstration, he was in no sense aiming at coercing conformity with his view — for that would still have been a political objective. Instead, he took his part in order to confirm his ideological fantasy of marching on the right side of history, of feeling himself among the elect few who stood with the angels of historical inevitability. Thus, when he lay down in front of hapless commuters on the bridges over the Potomac, he had no interest in changing the minds of these commuters, no concern over whether they became angry at the protesters or not. They were there merely as props, as so many supernumeraries in his private psychodrama. The protest for him was not politics, but theater; and the significance of his role lay not in the political ends his actions might achieve, but rather in their symbolic value as ritual. In short, he was acting out a fantasy.

Comment #1: Gracchus.  on  01/27  at  11:41 AM

Does the object come first, or is it just a search for something to hate? The way some extremists change sides from left to right suggests the latter to me.

Comment #2: paul  on  01/27  at  11:53 AM

Meanwhile, the comments section over there is fascinating (or maybe not) because a couple of mild anti-choice types come right into the belly of the beast to start hijacking the conversation. I get a sense that they feel proud of themselves for doing so.

Comment #3: paul  on  01/27  at  12:06 PM

I definitely think it depends on the person, paul.  For anti-choicers, the instigating factor often is a resentment of others, particularly women, for perceived levels of freedom and happiness.  The opportunity to take this ugly sentiment and rework it into a noble one is compelling.  One rule of thumb I’ve learned in life is the sadder the anti-choicer, the rabid he/she tends to be.

Comment #4: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/27  at  12:11 PM

Er, more rabid.  There’s a reason that the majority of the ones who go off and shoot someone are men, and it’s not just that men are traditionally more violent. I think it’s that men are brought up with more entitlement, and when things don’t go their way, it’s way, way, way more tempting to blame everyone else, obsess over the slutty women and all the sex they’re having with someone else, and obsess over the (male) doctors who treat those women with sympathy instead of condemning them.

Comment #5: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/27  at  12:13 PM

Sweet fucking christ. I’ve actually got this guy’s autograph somewhere. The man used to be an astronaut. Goddamn it.  :(

Comment #6: Scott  on  01/27  at  12:14 PM

“That’s where we’re at as a country.”

I say this to myself and shake my head in disgust every day when reading the newspaper. Especially the letters to the editor. Its getting harder & harder to fight the people who live in a fantasy world.

Comment #7: Mark  on  01/27  at  01:00 PM

Anti-vaccination types and 9/11 Truthers come to mind, though it’s well worth pointing out that both subcultures have more than their fair share of right wingers, whereas most right wing conspiracy theory subcultures have few, if any liberals. 

Also, whereas anti-vax and 9/11-truth positions are generally considered to be utter crap by the vast majority of progressives, the right-wing conspiracies you mention are all mainstream articles of faith among our wingnut brethren.

Comment #8: Molly, NYC  on  01/27  at  01:12 PM

Does the object come first, or is it just a search for something to hate?

The object is almost beside the point, and it’s not necessarily something to hate. A fantasy ideology is focused mainly on providing certain of its followers (and some of its leaders) with an opportunity to nuture their personal pychodramas when they feel insignificant and helpless. A struggle against a hated enemy, imaginary or real, is an easy narrative means to this end.

When I see an ideology that appeals to this desire in recruiting followers, I know immediately that it’s rotten at its core and that the supposed general good resulting from its practical application is highly suspect.

Comment #9: Gracchus.  on  01/27  at  01:17 PM

It seems to me a fairly common thing to feel that something you do is making things “better”, and maybe off-setting other things you do that are “bad”.  Everyone seeks to justify their own actions.

I think the difference is the scale, and the place these activities have in a person’s life.

I feel better putting cans and bottle in the recycle bin.  I know there are other things I do that probably have a much bigger (negative) impact than something as trivial as recycling a few cans and bottles.  But it still makes me feel better.

However, I haven’t made the pursuit of an ever-smaller environmental footprint the center of my life, like someone such as Ed Begley Jr. has done.

I’m not looking for a way to justify my own existence.  But I’m sure there are plenty of people who are.  Seizing on something like anti-abortion activism, or anti-environmental activism, or Teabagger nuttery, and making it the center of their lives gives some of them a sort of (often sick) purpose. 

Because they feel these things are righteous, the offense quotient goes through the roof.  If you don’t take their sacred quest as seriously as they do, and try to say or do something against it or even seem unsupportive, you aren’t merely in disagreement, you’re an active agent of Evil, who must be shut-up or even destroyed.  This is when things get dangerous, because if someone’s offense is grave enough, in the eyes of the True Believers, then virtually any action against them is justified, even death, because of the importance of the ends they seek.

The phrase “holier than thou” was invented to cover this kind of situation, and the Zealots had their name turned into an epithet to label the same sort of person.

The key is to understand that they do these things for themselves, no matter how loudly they proclaim they’re doing them for the benefit of others.  Understanding that provides a (scary?) glimpse into the nature of being human, at least one aspect…

Comment #10: MikeEss  on  01/27  at  01:56 PM

@Scott in #6…  Motherfucker isn’t just an Astronaut, he walked on the Moon.  He’s the only actual scientist to do so, he’s a Geologist.  Sad to see he’s also a wingnut.

Comment #11: barooo  on  01/27  at  02:04 PM

“The key is to understand that they do these things for themselves”

I think that this (in addition to the entitlement and misogyny) is why so many anti-choice types are perfectly comfortable with policies that actually increase the number of abortions, that lead to dead women, or that lead to babies leading short, miserable lives once born. It’s about the internal psychodrama, not the silly “reality-based” world outside.

Comment #12: paul  on  01/27  at  02:09 PM

Obviously, there’s liberal fantasists, as well.  Anti-vaccination types and 9/11 Truthers come to mind, though it’s well worth pointing out that both subcultures have more than their fair share of right wingers

I used to hang out at Mothering.com (a hippie, natural-living, eco-conscious sort of place) until I couldn’t take the crazy anymore, and this was something I noticed over and over again. I think the majority of the active members there were liberal or apolitical, but there was an active and vocal segment of rightwingers who were deeply into paranoid stuff like antivax and alternative medicine. Oh, and eliminating “chemicals” from their homes and diets, not because they had well-researched reason to believe that manufacturing certain substances does damage to the environment or other people but because they were sure there was a conspiracy to hide from them how poisonous common things were.

In other words, the lefty members were concerned more about things that might affect other human beings, whereas the righties were concerned about ME ME ME. It was a real trip watching people argue against environmental protection regulation and consumer advocacy, and then turn right around and freak out about how hard it is to keep their wittle darlings away from toxic chemicals in their food and bedding. They didn’t seem to experience any cognitive dissonance at all.

Comment #13: kristin  on  01/27  at  02:16 PM

I lived in New Mexico for much of the last decade, and it always seemed to me that state politics there was somewhat immune from the ideological excesses of national politics: baiting brown people, immigrants, and some other maligned groups (NM is still one of the very few states in the US that’s never passed any anti-gay legislation, for example) didn’t really get you anywhere. Local politics was corrupt, for damn sure, but debates there seemed to be focused on actual governance: building roads, funding schools, etc. I’m upset to see this changing now that Martinez is governor.

Comment #14: heurtebise  on  01/27  at  02:41 PM

Well, can he convince Jones that he walked on the moon, because Jone is a moon-landing denier too.,

Comment #15: Woodrowfan  on  01/27  at  03:02 PM

barooo@11: God, I know. I was a little kid at this event, listening to this guy tell about walking on the moon, looking at the Earth from space, getting into minor trouble for leaving the visor up on his helmet, and I bet my eyes were like saucers. So goddamn depressing.  :(

heurtebise@14: Used to live in New Mexico years ago—best, most beautiful scenery in the U.S.—hell, I even loved the scenery in the supposedly un-scenic eastern third of the state. And I always felt, like you, that they were mostly immune from too much wingnuttery—political coalitions included all kinds of cultures, and it seemed like you couldn’t get too exclusionary without people from your own party telling you to wise up. On the other hand, it wasn’t like I was too political back in those days…

Comment #16: Scott  on  01/27  at  03:09 PM

UN Official Admits Cap and Trade Is Wealth Redistribution

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/5253-un-official-admits-cap-and-trade-is-wealth-redistribution

It’s not an “Alex Jones conspiracy theory” if people make public statements about it.

There are at least hundreds of statements like this from people in the public view.

Comment #17: bobby  on  01/27  at  03:42 PM

Thank you for pointing me toward slacktivist. I live with a person who left behind fundamentalist christianity and small town life as a teenager so I’ve heard the things slacktivist says before. But I’ve never seen anyone make this particular point with such skill.

#13 kristin, exactly. It is all about narcissistic christianity, patriotism, etc. No concern at all for others, just a firm belief that god and the founding fathers are exactly like them and that they are right about absolutely everything and the rest of us are communists who are going to roast in hell.

Comment #18: serious bette  on  01/27  at  03:45 PM

A fantasy ideology is focused mainly on providing certain of its followers (and some of its leaders) with an opportunity to nuture their personal pychodramas when they feel insignificant and helpless. A struggle against a hated enemy, imaginary or real, is an easy narrative means to this end.

Huh.  I’ve kkind of come to the conclussion this is the purpose of much of organized religion and its rituals.

Comment #19: helen w. h.  on  01/27  at  03:57 PM

Poor old Harrison Schmitt was not only a moonwalking astronaut, but also served one term as a US Senator, so he’s been knocking around New Mexico politics for quite a while.  He’s from my old home town of Silver City, an area which combines some of the msot beautiful, pristine wilderness imaginable with the stinking, bubbling, toxic remains of 200 or so years of mining.

Comment #20: rea  on  01/27  at  04:10 PM

Sad to see what’s become of Harrison Schmitt.  Really sad.

Let’s pretend that our unremarkable lives of quiet desperation are actually epic quests in the service of something meaningful. Let’s pretend our lives are driven by some purpose.

Man’s search for meaning.  Some of the paths go down dark roads indeed.

Comment #21: liberalrob  on  01/27  at  04:48 PM

Huh.  I’ve kkind of come to the conclussion this is the purpose of much of organized religion and its rituals.

Yep. As Harris discusses in the article I linked to above:

But what happens when it is not an individual who is caught up in his fantasy world, but an entire group — a sect, or a people, or even a nation? That such a thing can happen is obvious from a glance at history. The various chiliastic movements, such as those studied in Norman Cohn’s The Pursuit of the Millennium (Harper & Row, 1961), are splendid examples of collective fantasy; and there is no doubt that for most of history such large-scale collective fantasies appear on the world stage under the guise of religion.

But this changed with the French Revolution. From this event onward, there would be eruptions of a new kind of collective fantasy, one in which political ideology replaced religious mythology as the source of fantasy’s symbols and rituals.

Comment #22: Gracchus.  on  01/27  at  05:19 PM

He’s a global warming denier, as well.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2010/07/17/harrison-schmitt-on-climate-history/

Comment #23: James  on  01/27  at  06:22 PM

Apropos - just started on this book.  Looks good, and entirely relevant.

Comment #24: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  01/27  at  06:37 PM

Everything is wealth redistribution - especially letting companies steal our natural resources and sell them for their own profit!

WTF.

Comment #25: Crissa  on  01/27  at  06:57 PM

There’s a scene in Citizen Ruth that captures that just perfectly. The anti-choicer has a job at some hard ware store, and he’s standing next to the paint shaker or whatever it is, staring blankly off into space. At home, there are some chairs that just exist to look nice, not to be sat in. And so on.  There’s false equivalency there—-the movie assumes that pro-choicers are just as insincere and duplicitous as the anti-choicers—-but it’s got some nifty moments that perfectly sum up the emptiness of the sort of life that makes people do this.

Comment #26: ginmar  on  01/27  at  07:11 PM

New Mexico has long been home to ideas that define the outer limits of right wing thinking.

Outside magazine wrote about this in 1995, and this is how bad it got:

Guy Pence, a Forest Service ranger in Carson City, Nevada, has twice been the apparent focus of bombing incidents—once at his office last March and more recently on August 4, when his family van was blown up in front of his house. Pence’s brother, Carl, is deputy forest supervisor of Gila National Forest, much of which is located in the southern part of Catron County [NM]. Over the last year, his staff has found, hidden in various locations in the forest, four pipe bombs and a large cache of plastic explosives.

“The environmentalists are the advance guard of the UN” was big with them at the time.

Stick with what works, I guess.

Comment #27: stryx  on  01/27  at  07:35 PM

Everything is wealth redistribution - especially letting companies steal our natural resources and sell them for their own profit!

Yeah, pretty much:

According to court documents, representatives from the dairy industry in New Mexico helped Susana Martinez with language in an executive order to halt pending and proposed regulations. The State Supreme Court ruled yesterday that Martinez could not halt the publication of a rule relating to the dairy industry or a rule related to capping greenhouse gas emissions.

The dairy rule in question would require dairy owners install synthetic barriers to stop groundwater contamination from cow waste.

I’ve got a relative working at NM Environment Department.  The dairy rule came about through a long, two year process, if I recall correctly.  Very democratic, involving numerous public hearings and public input.  Despite that, the dairymen couldn’t force their agenda—“We have a right to make poo-poo water!”—through.  So as soon as New Mexico’s own Teabagger princess was in office, they went whining to Mama.

From what I understand, Martinez has unleashed a whole bag of stupid on the entirety of the NM Environment Department.  My relative’s division is currently headed by a swimming pool inspector…who, coincidentally, donated thousands of dollars to Martinez’s campaign.

Comment #28: adobedragon  on  01/27  at  07:46 PM

It’s <strike>pretty</strike> absolutely clear they live in a fantasy world, when out here in the RFW they actively RESIST any actions that would lower the abortion rate.

They’d have ideological cover if, while working to outlaw abortion, they took some steps to head off unwanted pregnancies, but since they do not, we may feel free to piss in their coffee and serve it to them cold.

Comment #29: Eric_RoM  on  01/27  at  08:38 PM

When the then single Harrison was in Washington, he was routinely called the Dumbest Member of the Senate. He spent his 6 year term driving his pickup around Washington using his Astronaut/Senator status to get laid which is why he lost to Jeff Bingamen after one term. His current position as a “scientist” is equally a sign of a lack of intelligence….
http://climateprogress.org/2011/01/27/denier-harrison-schmitt-holdren-communists/

Comment #30: lcallen  on  01/27  at  08:52 PM

I like how the dude adds that “there are important environmental issues.”  Like nobody will admit that they are racist, nobody will say that they flat out hate the environment.  He also says that there are important “local environmental issues”, but this is cop out because environmental issues are never “local.”  Pollution rarely just stays in one area and CO2 burned from a coal plant in one area will contribute to global warming.

Comment #31: Albert Cirrus  on  01/27  at  08:55 PM

Somehow makes me think of Edgar Mitchell—another astronaut who left his brain in orbit…

Comment #32: BrianX  on  01/27  at  09:55 PM

Gracchus @ #9:  That is an excellent point, very well put. 

Icallen: I can imagine that a geologist astronaut would be a lousy senator since none of his training and education is the least bit relevant to national politics or legislation.  There’s a good reason the vast majority of congressvarmints and senators have law degrees, after all.  They write laws, they should understand them.  But I have trouble believing he’s stupid.  Stupid people don’t get to be astronauts, it’s a pretty damned tough competition for that job.  Not that intelligent people can’t believe stupid things, but still.  Crazy?  Sure.  Stupid?  Not so sure.

This is such a disappointment, that a geologist would buy into the idea that scientists are part of an international conspiracy to destroy capitalism.  I can only assume he has not done any actual scientific work, nor maintained any relationships with other scientists, nor remained at all current, since returning to Earth. 

Sure, I would expect in such a mining intensive state like NM that many geologists would not join in the environmentalist-leaning consensus among other earth scientists, ecologists, biologists, etc.  I’d expect most geologists in NM to work for the mining industry and thus, know who butters their bread and not advocate for the environment but for more mining.  I wouldn’t expect the wild-eyed craziness of that particular conspiracy theory to take hold among them.  Maybe some would use it as a cynical ploy to discredit their opponents, that’s pretty standard these days, but truly believing it?  I can’t accept that.

Is it possible he doesn’t actually believe this and is just cynically stirring up hatred against the political faction that’s the biggest annoyance to Big Minerals?  I’d prefer to think that than that he’s a true believer, though I guess it matters less what he really thinks than what people who hear and believe him think and how they react.

I can only hope his views on the conspiracy aren’t representative of the geologist community in NM, even if a self-serving anti-environmentalist stance may be.

I’ve heard countless accusations from Fundamentalist Christians- particularly the fantasy-addicted that Fred Clark describes so well- that the fossil record is God’s way of testing the faith of believers, whereas some have told me they believe paleontologists and geologists are in league with Satan to trap souls in God’s own great deception.  I would so love to put them, especially the latter, in a room with this guy.

I also share the disappointment that it’s in New Mexico.  They always seemed to me the more tolerant if more eccentric of the southwest states. 

And to echo Amanda, it’s the surest sign yet that the crazy has ratcheted up to a whole new level if Alex Jones of all people is turning mainstream on the right.

Comment #33: Chocolate Covered Cotton  on  01/28  at  04:50 AM

Last man to step off the moon. But did he ever really come back to Earth?

Comment #34: weirdnoise  on  01/28  at  06:23 AM

“UN Official Admits Cap and Trade Is Wealth Redistribution”

And because someone used the magic words Wealth Redistribution we are hurtling headlong into soviet-style communism.

Comment #35: oldfeminist  on  01/28  at  02:37 PM

I can only hope his views on the conspiracy aren’t representative of the geologist community in NM, even if a self-serving anti-environmentalist stance may be.

Actually many of the geologists in my husband’s graduating class work for the NM State Env. Department. And most are centrists, if not left leaning. Not that they are representative of all geologists in the state.  Just noting that “geologist” isn’t synonymous with “anti-environmentalist.”

Comment #36: adobedragon  on  01/28  at  08:34 PM

Alternative energy is “wealth redistribution,” away from oil and coal and to the companies developing new energy technologies—which is a good idea for a variety of reasons. Cap and trade is just a way of using the market to perform that redistribution more effectively.

Comment #37: weirdnoise  on  01/29  at  02:07 AM
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