I fucking hate these people. Most days I try to tamp it down, but today I just don’t have the energy.

Wow. Who knew that cheating on spouses and getting a divorce were modern developments. Maybe this guy would be glad to sponsor a resolution condemning Henry VIII or Thomas Jefferson.

How do hateful idiots like this even hold their heads up in public?

about promoting acceptance of an immoral lifestyle.

I certainly oppose immoral lifestyles. Let’s start by recriminalizing adultery and fornication. First thing we do is shut down all the singles bars. “Hey Hey! Ho Ho! The hookup culture has got to go!”

Paul:

I speak in defence of Henry VIII: what he sought (and should have obtained regarding Catherine of Aragon and did obtain regarding Anne of Cleves) was an annulment, not a divorce.

Wow, apparently people in the Bible never committed adultery.

(I don’t think Henry VIII actually deserved an annulment in the case of Catherine of Aragon, according to religious law of the time.  Whether they should have received a papal dispensation to marry in the first place is a different matter.  But I think he would have been on steadier moral ground appointing a relative as his heir.)

Henry wanted what he wanted, when he wanted it. He also had mistresses along with the wives.  But I think we’re all agreed on the notion that Wagner is so moronically hateful that a discussion like this would make no difference to him.

What a surprise that he’s from Sycamore/Seneca Co., in the blood-red northwestern part of the state (which other than Toledo is arguably redder than most of the southern part traditionally associated with conservatism.)

I hope someone can dig up affairs, etc. on him.

Thanks for getting rid of the number check, by the way; the first time you enter it is often wrong.

Ah, another example of how being a right-wing, homophobic nutcase means you ignore reality.

For one thing, the reason STD rates have gone up since 2001 has more to do with the right-wing’s love of abstinence education than anything else. (The statistics I’ve seen tend to show STD rates declining prior to 2001.) I haven’t had any luck tracking down any statistics that show a breakdown of STD rates based on sexual orientation, so I don’t know if the change in STD rates is different based on orientation or not (my guess is that there’s not much difference). I’m sure the statistics are out there somewhere, but I’m not able to find them right now.

Then, of course, is the well-worn claim that the country was founded based on Christian principles — I doubt the wingnuts will ever give up on that lie — and that we were once some idyllic society where divorce never happened; child abuse was non-existent; nobody ever cheated on their spouse or had sex outside of marriage, and what sex was engaged in was only for reproduction; gays and lesbians were only characters in literature (but no self-respecting Murican would ever read such filth anyway); and everyone lived happily ever after (just like a Disney fairy tale) with no broken hearts (because your fairy godmother set you up with your perfect mate so you didn’t have to endure the horrors of the modern-day dating ritual) or mental breakdowns (remember, no infidelity or abuse). Apparently this all changed in the 1960s with the invasion of our country by hoards of gays and atheists who took over the government and forced the god-fearing Christians into re-education camps, disolved their marriages, and forced them into same-sex relationships.

Yeah, there wasn’t any adultery going on in the time of, say Don Juan or Casanova.

On a side note, did you know that homosexuality leads to death?  Yes, it is a well established fact that of all the homosexuals identified as having lived prior to 1800 AD/CE are dead.  Plato, for example - dead.  Leonardo da Vinci: dead.  Proof positive, right?

Next up, oxygen as a source of gayness (100% of living gays take this substance deep into their lungs).  Shocking!  (/snark)

“[T]his is a dangerous and misguided bill.

How apt, coming from such a dangerous and misguided person.

The bill is not really about people being denied rights to basic needs, but it is about promoting acceptance of an immoral lifestyle.

What, people aren’t being denied rights to basic needs without the bill?  Look at him, he’s magic! He can erase people’s problems by just saying they don’t exist! Wow!  Oh wait . . .

And, oh, yes, let’s bring up Adam and Eve as the ultimate wonderful standard of matrimony and the Traditional Family Values to which we must all aspire . . . didn’t one of their sons kill the other one?

I suspect the GOP is about to lose the Ohio State House - between slackjaws like Wagner (whose seat is admittedly pretty safe) and ticket scalpers like John Widowfield (R-Cuyahoga Falls), coupled with a Democratic governor who is getting rave reviews even from conservative media, and it looks like better than even odds that the Democrats will get the lower house this year.

Unfortunately, until then folks like Wagner have power. Other grand current and former members of the People’s House include now-U.S. Representative Jim Jordan (R-1950s) and Rep. Tom Brinkman (R-1850s), who was the lone vote against Ohio’s re-ratification of the 14th Amendment because he felt it led to Roe v. Wade.

WF

You think, Wes?  I keep thinking the state Dems might have hit the ceiling last election, especially with Marc Dann being a potential drag (and the Repubs wrongly trying to pin the state economy, slow population growth, etc. on the Dems.)

“Rep. Tom Brinkman (R-1850s), who was the lone vote against Ohio’s re-ratification of the 14th Amendment because he felt it led to Roe v. Wade.”

Woah, really?  I knew he was obsessed with Roe v. Wade, but wtf?

Calvinhobbes, it’s absolutely true.

WF

after liiving in OK because of a job, I realized that it was somewhere stucik in about the dark ages or so but I really thought that Ohio was at least in the 20th century but I guess I was wrong about that. What really worries me is that people actually vote for these mindless idiots. I am straight but over the years I have had many friends who were gay both male and female and one who was bi-sexual, these were all good people and I was proud to be their friend and I feel fortuate that they were part of my life. As far as I am concerened these homophobes need to be boiled in oil or something akin to that