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On The Dumb Pills Again

Yes, Politico, choosing current elected officials for roles in a new administration may result in people they know being appointed to their vacant seats. 

The solution, obviously, is to appoint orphans to everything. 

UPDATE: To be clear, the issue isn’t that nepotism and dynastic tendencies are actually good things.  It’s that any administration is going to choose people who have family members, many of whom will have political aspirations.  If our criteria for choosing executive officers must rest on people who have no relatives who could at some point theoretically be appointed to their seats, then we’ve just drafted the Oliver Twist Full Employment Act of 2008.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 07:55 AM • (19) Comments

It’s not presented the way I would like it, because when it comes to appointments, then sure, this will obviously happen, and I don’t really think wives really count when it comes to dynasties.
The high barrier of entry to electoral politics is problematic. On the other hand, according to that article, “only” 5% of Congressmen are part of dynasties. It’s a valid question to put a light to, but doing it by blaming the Obama administration or Democrats for it is silly.

Comment #1: AndersH  on  12/17  at  09:12 AM

Politico is mostly full of shit, but there’s a legitimate argument to be made against the concentration of power in the hands of political dynasties, whether Republican or Democratic. Glenn Greenwald had an excellent post about it here which I think gets at the root of what is so worrying about this trend.

Comment #2: J.V.  on  12/17  at  09:36 AM

I think there’s an argument to be made against political dynasties (and one that should be made).

I think it’s ridiculous to argue that Obama’s choices of competent elected officials is somehow responsible for their dynastic proclivities.

Comment #3: Jesse Taylor  on  12/17  at  09:46 AM

“They’ve got seat-warmers, seat-sellers and the making of pillows for the seats of royalty. No wonder the public wonders what’s going on in Washington.”

I thought I wondered what was going on in Washington b/c everything is classified and FOIA requests are obstructed and denied.  And that the President’s PR woman lies every time she opens her mouth.

There is a difference when you put qualified people in place.  Politicians have the $$ and the know-how to get elected, and sometimes they help their families. 

Lisa Madigan has been a most pleasant surprise.  She’s smart and a hard worker.  The rest of the Illinois Nepotism League has been horrible for the state.  John Stroger had a stroke while running for Cook County President.  His opponent, who was gaining in the primary (no Republican will win the country/city contests, the primary is the election that matters) backed off b/c he thought people wouldn’t like him attacking a man in a coma.  Stroger barely eked out a victory, and then, after lying for months, they appointed his idiot son Todd to take his place.  Not the man who came in second in the primary, but an idiot who wasn’t even running.

Todd has since put all sorts of family and friends in high positions, or if the positions were lowly, put in family and then doubled the salary.  We now have the highest tax rate in the country, and he still can’t balance the budget.  But he and his are getting rich, and that’s what matters, right?

The only good thing is that Todd has been so bad that he’ll be out on his ass when this term is up.

Lisa Madigan is an intelligent woman who has done a great job as Atty Gen. and hasn’t favored her father.  Blagojevich was considering appointing her to Obama’s seat just to make sure she didn’t run against him for governor.  She’s an up and comer despite (or perhaps partly due to) family connections.

Comment #4: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  12/17  at  10:37 AM

There should be some kind of waiting period before another member of the same family would be allowed to have a similar office.

This is especially true with senators and POTUS.  I’m sure Jeb is running in 2012 and it will be the death of America if another Bush is allowed into office…

Comment #5: MikeEss  on  12/17  at  10:52 AM

Obama seems to understand one of the keys to good executive management: hire people who are smarter than you, who are willing to constructively critique your decisions, and who are qualified to do the job they’re assigned.

In other words, I really don’t see him appointing some Chicago machine counterpart to Brownie.

Comment #6: Gracchus  on  12/17  at  11:05 AM

I agree that being the relative of a previous office holder shouldn’t disqualify someone for service, but it does kind of irk me that somebody who has never held elected office could potentially get a senate appointment, because I don’t think that would work for someone who’s last name isn’t Kennedy.

Comment #7: bethany  on  12/17  at  11:18 AM

Hmm. Incidentally, one of the problems I had with Hillary was that, if elected, we would have had the same two families in the White House for four presidents and I just don’t think that is healthy. We don’t need American royal families.

Comment #8: Ellen  on  12/17  at  11:28 AM

Strange.  Because when Nixon retreads Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft were lined up for their jobs no one seemed to complain.

I’m not a big fan of political dynasties and that’s one reason I wasn’t thrilled to see Clinton run again.  That said, I’m a little tired of seeing the media alternate between gasping in horror and gushing in romantic approval every time the term “dynasty” arises.  The existence of political “families” is virtually inevitable and if the public thinks what they need is another round of Kennedys or Clintons or (god forbid) Bushs, then Democracy dictates that’s what they should receive.

Likewise, if a political family has existed for generations with family members in every avenue of politics then why should anyone be surprised when these highly experienced and highly connected individuals get high office positions?  If you know a family of plumbers and your pipes break, who do you call?  If you know a family of attorneys - several of which have served as DAs or AGs - why wouldn’t at least one of these people be at the top of your list for USA?  :-p

Comment #9: Zifnab25  on  12/17  at  12:11 PM

Apparently I’m more tolerant of “dynasties” than most, but still, that article is really beyond stupid. Hillary Clinton is “the wife of a former President?” How about “U.S. Senator from New York, member of the Senate Armed Services committee, and trailblazing Presidential candidate?” And while the Kennedy opposition is largely fair, I’m not so sure about the Salazar comparison. Yes, they’re brothers, but it’s not exactly like John Salazar would be plucked from obscurity to get his brother’s Senate seat, the man is a sitting member of Congress, and easily one of the 3 most qualified people to fill the seat, familial ties notwithstanding. On top of that, much of this strikes me as media trumped up nonsense. John Salazar is, I believe, taking a seat on the House Appropriations committee, a very choice position, and so would be at least somewhat unlikely to trade that in for a very junior position in the Senate. But it’s easier to bring his name up if you work for the Politico than it is to, ya know, go to Colorade and do some reporting.

Comment #10: Brien Jackson  on  12/17  at  12:11 PM

So after eight years of Bush II, NOW the press are twisting their dicks off over “dynasties”?

What a bunch of unbelievable horseshit.

Comment #11: dan  on  12/17  at  12:56 PM

So after eight years of Bush II, NOW the press are twisting their dicks off over “dynasties”?

Don’t you remember?  George W. Bush—son of a president, grandson of a senator—was a Washington outsider from Texas, unlike Al Gore, son of a senator, who was the Washington insider. 

I still don’t understand how Rove managed to sell that, but he did.

Comment #12: Mnemosyne  on  12/17  at  02:54 PM

I don’t have a problem with families in the Senate so much as I do the Presidency. We need kin limits on the Presidency.

Comment #13: Ben D.  on  12/17  at  03:06 PM

This is especially true with senators and POTUS.  I’m sure Jeb is running in 2012 and it will be the death of America if another Bush is allowed into office…

I don’t believe he will… not yet anyway.  His political advisors will tell him that it’s too soon, that he’ll only get one shot, and that he’ll want to wait until the stink of his brother is fully out of the Oval Office.

Sadly, I believe Jeb will be running for the U.S. Senate if Florida in 2010 (to fill Mel Martinez (R) soon to be vacant seat), and I also believe he will likely win.  Form there, 6 years as the face of the “new” Republican Party (HAHA), and he’s in the 2016 race.

Maybe facing Sen. Caroline Kennedy in the 2016 Presidential Election.

Comment #14: DTG in STL  on  12/17  at  03:38 PM

Don’t you remember?  George W. Bush—son of a president, grandson of a senator—was a Washington outsider from Texas, unlike Al Gore, son of a senator, who was the Washington insider. 

I still don’t understand how Rove managed to sell that, but he did.

Because Al Gore was a Senator (“insider”), and Bush was a Governor (“outsider”).

Sitting U.S. Senators, historically, have had really, really bad luck in getting elected to the White House.  I believe Obama is only the third to do it, and though I think he would have won regardless, I think it helped him that his opponent was also a sitting U.S. Senator (an election first - 2 sitting Senators), thus effectively neutralizing the “he’s an evil Washington insider” argument moreso than normally.

Comment #15: DTG in STL  on  12/17  at  03:43 PM

The Republican Party is done with Bushes. They’ve ruined their party twice now. He wouldn’t stand a shot against Jindal in 2012, who would be young and an “outsider”.

Comment #16: Ben D.  on  12/17  at  03:46 PM

Er, 2016.

Comment #17: Ben D.  on  12/17  at  03:47 PM

After your precious black J*sus finishes his term in 2016 and Michelle Obama finishes hers in 2024 and Caroline Kennedy finishes hers in 2032, we Republicans are gonna make a big effort to take back the White House, so look out!

Comment #18: Rugged in Montana  on  12/17  at  04:33 PM

IMHO it’s not fair to lump together Clintons and Bidens with Kennedys and Bushes.  Bill Clinton and Joe Biden are not scions of famous influential families; they rose from obscurity.  Kennedys and Bushes were influential during the Depression.  The 20th-century one.

Comment #19: FlipYrWhig  on  12/17  at  04:46 PM
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