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Out’s 100 Greatest, Gayest Albums

Music

Magazines love to publish lists because people are utter suckers for them.  Count me in—-I love a good list.  But Out’s 100 Greatest, Gayest Records list was just especially fun to read. (Hat tip) I just wish they’d blurbed every choice, because then I could dork out on this for that much longer. If this is the list of the gayest albums of all time, I guess I have pretty gay taste because I’m a ginormous fan of huge chunks of this list. 

Actually, what I think made this list for me is that the theme means that it’s eclectic and personal, which to me is more interesting than trying to categorize albums by “greatest rock albums” or anything like that.  There’s also a tendency of a lot of rock magazines and fans who are homophobic to paper over the importance of both gay people and gay themes in rock history, and this is a good corrective.  I think, for instance, that some of the queerness I perceive in bands like the Velvet Underground might get lost out there, because the stereotype of the music snob champion of a band like this is a straight guy who might blanch to think of it that way.  I’m a big fan of breaking down the stereotype of who can or can’t be a music snob. 

Plus, they revive a couple of bands that are pretty good that might be generally forgotten, like Deee-Lite or Soft Cell.


Unsurprisingly, kd lang is on the list.  She’s always been one of those artists I can’t reconcile, because while I love her voice, I tend to think most of her songs aren’t that compelling.  There’s one exception to this rule, one song of kd lang’s that has always gotten to me.  I like the melody and the imagery in the song.

Check out the list and share some of your favorites in comments.

 

 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 08:37 PM • (46) Comments

Wait, sorry, I think there is a typo in the title of this list.  It should read “The 100 Greatest Records”.

Because seriously, it needs no qualifiers. 

I read down the list and thought, “OMG, I LOVE THAT ALBUM!” or some variation (“OOH, I need to download that…”, “Oh, man, I love k.d. lang, why don’t I have any of her records?”) for Every Single entry.

That said, I am a homo of sorts.  So maybe they just have me pegged.

Comment #1: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  08:43 PM

I agree. Why the “gay” qualifier. These are all great albums. Period.

Comment #2: Mark  on  09/16  at  08:52 PM

Oh, and can I just name drop, in honor of the Hedwig soundtrack being at #11 and John Cameron Mitchell having a blurb or two in there, too—he is in my yoga class!  I have been valiantly chill about not squeeing in his presence.

Comment #3: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  08:55 PM

Not all the albums are great. Melissa Etheridge’s music is barely listenable and Rent might be the worst musical in the history of the genre. Otherwise, awesome list. Yet how can Chorus by Erasure not be there?!?

Comment #4: Ross Lincoln  on  09/16  at  09:04 PM

How could they have possibly left out THE BUZZCOCKS?!?

Comment #5: Ms Kate  on  09/16  at  09:05 PM

eh, Soft Cell is a glorified cover band.


>snobbery

Comment #6: Indy  on  09/16  at  09:10 PM

Well, they did have more songs than their cover of “Tainted Love”.

Comment #7: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/16  at  09:38 PM

Yeah, “Sex Dwarf” and “Entertain me” are incredible songs.

Comment #8: Ross Lincoln  on  09/16  at  09:56 PM

No kidding Amanda. If you think Soft Cell is all Tainted Love you sure ain’t gay.  Sex Dwarf ruled the gay clubs in Seattle in 1988.  Shazam!

Comment #9: The Plebe  on  09/16  at  09:56 PM

I’ve thought a little more about what I love about this list.

It’s sort of a dream “best music of the last 50-odd years” list, because it avoids the trope of figuring out how to rank a very few particularly macho and hetero acts of a particular era within the top 5 or top 10.  So you can get the soundtrack to Hedwig and the Angry Inch at #11, because you didn’t have to blow 7 or 8 of the top 10 spots on The Beatles, The Stones, Dylan, Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc.  It’s sort of a more straight-up and honest reflection of music EVERYONE likes.

Not that there are many who actively dislike The Beatles and Dylan and such, but it’s nice to just get past all that macho wankery for a moment and admit that Judy Garland fucking BROUGHT IT.

Comment #10: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  10:01 PM

yeah, I agree about k. d. lang.  I finally figured out what it was, though—she is awesome live, but her studio performances lose that “something” that makes her so damn compelling when she sings.  I’d hear her perform a song live, be blown away by it, go by the album, and be totally disappointed.

It’s wierd, because that’s the exact opposite of almost every other group or musician that I like; usually I prefer the studio to the live recordings.  But with lang, since I’ve stuck solely to her live recordings and performances, I’ve not been disappointed anymore.

Comment #11: Mau de Katt  on  09/16  at  10:01 PM

WTF?!  Not a single Kylie album!  Where is “Light Years?”  Where is “Fever?”

Comment #12: PostingWhileIntoxicated  on  09/16  at  10:02 PM

Agreed, opop.  Also, like I said in the post, it’s really nice to have someone declare that people that aren’t straight men can be total music geeks and demand that their tastes be given fair hearing in the snob ranks.  The list doesn’t apologize for itself or hedge in any way against its right to exist.  And it’s a far more fun list than most anything the Rolling Stone would put together.

Comment #13: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/16  at  10:04 PM

Well, Kylie’s albums are pretty much tributes to the best of this list. Awesome, but, not particularly original. Love em anyway though.

Comment #14: Ross  on  09/16  at  10:04 PM

t avoids the trope of figuring out how to rank a very few particularly macho and hetero acts of a particular era within the top 5 or top 10.

 

Serious word here.

I was watching the 100 best videos from the 80s on VH1Classic (so sue me, they want my demographic).  FUCKING BON JOVI at #1????one??  Are they fucking kidding me?

I’m convinced that the assholes who generated that list were NOT ALIVE during the 80s.  Bon Jovi has some Faustian deal with the devil and gets more popular as time goes by, which makes no sense.  In the 80s, he was a hair band joke.

Unbelievable.

Comment #15: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  09/16  at  10:22 PM

Awesome, but, not particularly original.

The regulars at G.A.Y. at the Astoria will have your guts for that, I suspect. She’s never been an album gal, but that list does include collections.

I’m only an honorary gayer, but I’d throw in some Scott Walker, and AfterElton seems to agree. And though k.d. herself doesn’t like it now, I’ll nod to All You Can Eat as sheer musical hedonism.

(Now thinking about Walker and Marc Almond, and how Northern Soul and that America-to-British ears scene was embraced and built upon by the gay artists of the 1980s.)

Comment #16: pseudonymous in nc  on  09/16  at  10:25 PM

I’d just like to express my appreciation that they included the album Zen Arcade. Husker Du FTW!!!

Comment #17: atheist  on  09/16  at  10:51 PM

How can anybody forget

PEACHES?  (Couldn’t be gayer than that. It’s iconic)

LeTigre (another obvious miss, tho probably not the greatest work around)

More : Elliot Smith, PJ Harvey, Luscious Jackson, Me’shell NdegeOcello, The Dresden Dolls

Special for pandagon readers:

Brigitte Fontaine - il se passe des choses (est folle, 1969)

Comment #18: il se passe  on  09/16  at  10:51 PM

Le Tigre’s first album is in there.

Comment #19: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  10:53 PM

Now that I’ve calmed down, I’ve read the list again, and then the comments section.  I’m glad others noticed the lack of Kylie (and the Village People!  How were they not original enough?)  Despite the glaring omissions, it IS a good list, overall.  I could do without the Pet Shop Boys, but that’s me.  As much as it sucks that there’s no Kylie or Village People, at least someone had the sense to list Kate Bush - twice!  I dearly love Kate, and am frankly surprised she made a list of any sort.  She and Kylie always seem to be the Invisible Women here in the States.

Comment #20: PostingWhileIntoxicated  on  09/16  at  11:00 PM

Elliott Smith no doubt supported gay rights, but his music is 100% wussy-hetero-junkie. Nothing even remotely gay about it, except from the perspective of jocko types who think anything that isn’t screamed over quadruple tracked guitars is faggy.

I’d defintely include him in the 100 best nerd albums. (He took the name “Elliott” because steve sounded too jock-ey.)

Scott Walker for sure would belong in this list, but I think he’d be better suited for the 100 albums by people who are almost perfect. Also, he should be awarded a Rory for the most gratiuitous influence of the country of Belgium.

Comment #21: Ross Lincoln  on  09/16  at  11:03 PM

When I use my bluetooth headset, I set the ringer to k.d. lang’s “Mind of Love” of Ingenue:

Talking to myself ... causing great concern for my health ...

Comment #22: Ms Kate  on  09/16  at  11:08 PM

The Village People?

Clearly you missed the part where the list was for the “Greatest”, not just “associated in some way with gay people, quality undetermined”.

Comment #23: The Opoponax  on  09/16  at  11:11 PM

Clearly you missed the part where the list was for the “Greatest”, not just “associated in some way with gay people, quality undetermined

Greatest? There’s plenty of mediocre in the list - the aforementioned and overly-represented Pet Shop Boys being Exhibit A.  I’ll gladly take the Village People.

Comment #24: PostingWhileIntoxicated  on  09/16  at  11:19 PM

Elliott Smith no doubt supported gay rights, but his music is 100% wussy-hetero-junkie. Nothing even remotely gay about it, except from the perspective of jocko types who think anything that isn’t screamed over quadruple tracked guitars is faggy.
Ross Lincoln on 09/16 at 10:03 PM

I don’t think the list necessarily insist on “gay artist” or the subject matter should be gay ...(some of the latter entry in the top 100 is a bit baffling to me. There is something more about musical theme rather than strictly subject matter.  That’s also why I suspect it miss a lot of recent younger artists too…  come on, The Dresden doll and Peaches? elliot smith comes to mind more in term of folksy sound that often gets played by friend.

The list is also very mid west - west oriented sound.  I suspect it’s where most of ‘Out’ crew comes from. There is no southern twang in that rock list, no soul, hip-hop influence or jazz.

but to get back to original point. I sometimes wonder if there is such thing as “gay” sound. that is certain specific sound texture that definitely say ” aha, this belongs to the list”  (this instead of strictly “lyrics/the artist specifically declare what the album is about”

(not that I want to find this out by listening to all those albums on the list. most are fucking awful and unlistenable)

Comment #25: il se passe  on  09/16  at  11:22 PM

No Coil or Death in June on the list.  They had a hundred slots to work with and they couldn’t find a way to drop a couple shitty Smiths albums for something more subversive.  Okay, so maybe crypto fascist OTO isn’t their thing.  At least they could have found a spot for Diamanda Galas.

Comment #26: Todd  on  09/16  at  11:24 PM

Greatest? There’s plenty of mediocre in the list - the aforementioned and overly-represented Pet Shop Boys being Exhibit A.

No personal offense, but that’s the Pet Shop Boys you’re talking about there. Your opinion is just wrong. Seriously, that opinion was made in New York City.

NEW YORK CITY?

</get a rope>

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go back to patting myself on the back about my utter lack of flaws and faults.

Comment #27: Ross Lincoln  on  09/16  at  11:29 PM

Amanda, thank you for giving us amateur Insufferable (Pop) Music Snobs an excuse to have a pillow fight. 

Group hug!

Comment #28: PostingWhileIntoxicated  on  09/16  at  11:39 PM

Pet Shop Boys—standard art school sound track. The other Devo?.  (It’s publication dept. I bet half of them are writers and graphic designers)

..... another gay album they forget ... ‘Matmos’ (and they are from SF. but it’s abstract electro, not rock. Several of their work should be able to eliminate 20 redundant albums in the list. But they don’t fit the image.)

Comment #29: il se passe  on  09/16  at  11:41 PM

Since there seems to be a contingent of Marc Almond/Soft Cell fans here, there’s a song that I’ve been trying to find that they used to play on the alternative station here in LA.  It was kind of a “day in the life” song of a high school kid (in England) and it was really funny:

Oh God, it’s another disease
And you just got rid of the last
You were beginning to feel okay
And the friends you gave it to were speaking to you again

I’ve even Googled the frickin’ lyrics and found nothing.  Any ideas out there what the damn title of the song is so it will stop bothering me?

Comment #30: Mnemosyne  on  09/17  at  12:05 AM

Hey, is it true your married boy friend finally took his wife out to dinner?  Does she know you are zooming her husband?

Comment #31: middleclassguy  on  09/17  at  12:12 AM

After some thinking as to why I haven’t liked Pet Shop Boys -  I remembered that I’ve been questioned before as to why I like similar bands such as Bronski Beat, ABC, and Erasure, but not them.  My first inclination was to say “the hype”, but you could say that about a lot of groups, right?  As I couldn’t really give a good answer, maybe my opinion about them is invalid for being too subjective.

Comment #32: PostingWhileIntoxicated  on  09/17  at  01:14 AM

Todd hits it -“No Coil or Death in June on the list.  They had a hundred slots to work with and they couldn’t find a way to drop a couple shitty Smiths albums for something more subversive.  Okay, so maybe crypto fascist OTO isn’t their thing.  At least they could have found a spot for Diamanda Galas.”

Where’s Genesis P. Orridge & fucking Xiu Xiu. The Scissor Sisters make it but no Xiu Xiu or Pansy Division? or Huggy Bear?

Comment #33: dooflow  on  09/17  at  01:24 AM

ooh, Matmos & the Germs. The lead singer from MDC.

Comment #34: dooflow  on  09/17  at  01:26 AM

i second the wtf at the lack of pansy division. i also frown on their choice of bikini kill albums (pussy whipped, my least favorite) but am placated by their choice in sleater-kinney albums (dig me out).

Comment #35: jessilikewhoa  on  09/17  at  01:36 AM

How could they have possibly left out THE BUZZCOCKS?!?

Damn skippy. I was expecting Singles Going Steady to be top 20 easy.

Comment #36: Sarcastro  on  09/17  at  01:53 AM

No hating on the Pet Shop Boys, please.  I’m an unalloyed fan of the music, but the _attitude_ counts too.

Comment #37: FlipYrWhig  on  09/17  at  02:40 AM

Was there some Little Richard on there and I missed it?

Comment #38: tb  on  09/17  at  02:43 AM

Oh no. I love “Dusty in Memphis.” I guess I’m teh gay. Better tell me wife and kids.

Comment #39: blip_blap  on  09/17  at  06:26 AM

Husker Du’s inclusion surprised me (in a good way,) but nothing from Bob Mould’s solo or Sugar era?  I think the same thing happened with Morrissey to some extent, who I think has made some great stuff in his more recent days.  I really wish some people would give middle-aged white guys a break (and, by the way, the Apple Venus albums by XTC are the most underrated white middle-aged guy albums ever—someone stiff the remaining Eagles, Randy Newmans, and Genesis members and give those XTC guys some opportunity, please.)

And yes, Morrissey is now middle-aged.  He’s not twenty and writing sonnets in his bedroom anymore.

Anyhow, good stuff on that list.  My iTunes is pretty damn gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Comment #40: jon  on  09/17  at  08:39 AM

Really expected to see Birdman and Lil Wayne’s Like Father, Like Son on here. “Leather So Soft”?

Comment #41: tps12  on  09/17  at  11:46 AM

I was a little disappointed.  I thought Diamond Dogs belonged further up the list.

Comment #42: G Porgey  on  09/17  at  01:01 PM

Did I miss it? The Cure <i>Disintegration<i>. My first concert and I don’t know too many other gay guys my age who don’t have that album. Maybe it’s just a Gen X thing.

Comment #43: seventwentyfour  on  09/17  at  04:37 PM

Wow. I’m ultra-gay, according to that list. Where do we go to surrender our breeder cards?

Comment #44: wapsie  on  09/17  at  05:14 PM

I never realized there were gay albums.

Besides the Jonas Brothers, of course.

Comment #45: Pope Ratzo  on  09/17  at  05:59 PM

Oh my god, Petula in Memphis is SO much gayer than Dusty in Memphis.

Comment #46: DG  on  09/18  at  12:23 AM
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