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Palin Roundup

D-Day has what I would call the definitive dissection of McCain’s nomination of Palin for VP:

It’s clear that McCain, who has only met Palin a few times, sees the election as an uphill climb and tried to use the pick to command the news cycle with a surprise. Maybe that works for a day, but over time this could backfire heavily. Like Eagleton heavy.

Mudflats has a roundup of local reaction:

Alaska State Senate President Lyda Green (R): “She’s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? Look at what she’s done to this state. What would she do to the nation?”  (Green is from Palin’s home town of Wasilla.)

Via Roy we find that Libertarians, as usual, are willing to sell out their values at the drop of a hat:

Yes, Palin is pro-life and yes, she’s made a huge mistake by supporting windfall taxes on oil companies. But she was a tireless reformer against government waste in a state that is famous for it. She, after all, shut down the Bridge to Nowhere.

Hey look, a young zombie meme in the wild!

Bottom line is that she was for the bridge-to-nowhere before she was against it, and she only turned against it when the money would have to come from the State budget rather than from the Federal budget.

But the bridge to nowhere isn’t the only thing Palin was for before she was against:

So, as recently as less than seven months ago, Sarah Palin refused to even endorse McCain because of a position of McCain’s that, in a relatively rare occurrence, has not changed.  That’s how strongly principled she was (note the past tense) in support of drilling in ANWR.

And Ta-Nehisi gets right to the heart of the right’s refusal to get the concept:

I just watched Chris Matthews correct Pat Buchanan who kept calling Sarah Palin—a 44-year old woman—“gal.” Buchanan called her this just as he was claiming she was feminist.

As many others have observed, Republicans think Dems’ vision of affirmative action is “promoting unqualified minorities and women” because that’s the only thing they can imagine doing. They think feminism is simply making sure there’s a 3:1 (or better) ratio of X:Y chromosomes.

Update: Via TBogg, Will Thomas humiliates Karl Rove. AND WHY ISN’T THAT FUCKHEAD IN JAIL?

 

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Posted by Auguste on 02:22 PM • (49) Comments

As many others have observed, Republicans think Dems’ vision of affirmative action is “promoting unqualified minorities and women” because that’s the only thing they can imagine doing.

Close:  they think that all minorities and women are the same, so qualifications don’t matter.  They’re fungible.  Alan Keyes = Barack Obama, so of course people will vote for Keyes.  They’re all the same, right?

I used to think that maybe, possibly, Condi Rice was just out of her area of expertise and if a crisis came up in Russia, she’d know what to do.  Nope.  The very thing she prepared for and studied her entire academic and professional career—Russian aggression—happened and she had no clue what to do.  How do you study Russia and the Soviet Union on the PhD level and still fuck up the Russia/Georgia/South Ossieta situation that badly?

Comment #1: Mnemosyne  on  08/30  at  03:09 PM

Wow, nine of the last ten posts are about Palin and how dooooomed McCain is. You guys must be really scared.

Comment #2: Dan in Denver  on  08/30  at  03:13 PM

Yeah, I’m completely freaked out. Now watch this drive.

Comment #3: Auguste  on  08/30  at  03:18 PM

Also, it’s ten out of the last ten. Can’t you count?

Comment #4: Auguste  on  08/30  at  03:19 PM

Dan shows us he doesn’t know why almost everyone goosenecks a car wreck.

Comment #5: Doug H. (Fausto no more)  on  08/30  at  03:20 PM

Wow, nine of the last ten posts are about Palin and how dooooomed McCain is. You guys must be really scared.

You’re not scared at the thought of someone whose experience consists of being mayor of a town of 6,000 and less than 2 years as governor of a state of 670,000 with a massive budget surplus being a heartbeat away from running a country of 300 million people with a budget deficit of $410 billion that’s also involved in two wars in two different countries and being challenged by a resurgent Russia and a powerful China?

This is not a game.  This is not Yankees vs. Red Sox.  This is our actual country with actual people living in it who will be affected for years—if not decades—by bad policy.  But all you can think about is that you TOTALLY PWNED, DOOD!!!!  Who gives a shit about people losing their homes and jobs?  You can piss off the lefties, and that’s the only thing that matters, right?

Comment #6: Mnemosyne  on  08/30  at  03:22 PM

Via Roy we find that Libertarians, as usual, are willing to sell out their values at the drop of a hat:
I like to think of that as being our greatest asset.

Comment #7: Jonathan Hohensee  on  08/30  at  03:26 PM

Let the market determine what you believe in, eh? More and more Republican-like every day.

Comment #8: Auguste  on  08/30  at  03:37 PM

I like to think of that as being our greatest asset.

You should charge a little more for it, then, don’t you think? Being libertarians, and all?

Comment #9: Chet  on  08/30  at  03:51 PM

Its interesting to see some libertarians contorting themselves into thinking that “western Republican"automatically=libertarian. That’s some impressive logic!

Comment #10: Amanda in San Jose  on  08/30  at  04:06 PM

670,000 = fewer people than the Portland OR metropolitan area.  And it’s not a major city (we like to think it is, but hey—we live in Oregon.  What do we know?).

Comment #11: Older  on  08/30  at  04:20 PM

USA Today Poll:

<blockquote>Among Democratic women — including those who may be disappointed that New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton did not win the Democratic nomination — 9% say Palin makes them more likely to support McCain, 15% less likely.</blockquotre>

So McCain just scored a -6% among the voters he was hoping to nab. Great job!

Comment #12: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  04:33 PM

Older, I’m pretty sure 670,000 is closer to fewer people than live in the Portland city limits. (well, city limits are 570,000 but you get the idea).

And hey, Portland Metro is higher on the list of cities than Alaska is on the list of states, population-wise.

Comment #13: Auguste  on  08/30  at  04:40 PM

And the Mayor of Portland doesn’t have the benefit of massive oil profits and federal subsidies.

Comment #14: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  04:42 PM

You’d think a true libertarian would rain some hate down on the Gov of a state that is functionally a socialist kleptocracy.  Granted, it’s a right-wing socialist kleptocracy, but still.  Palin and her best buddy Ted Stevens are the kind of people Ron Paul and Bob Barr were created to destroy.

Comment #15: Loneoak  on  08/30  at  04:53 PM

The city of Los Angeles—not the metro area, just the city itself—has five times the population of the entire state of Alaska.  So that means that Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is more qualified than any of the people running for president right now, especially since he’s been the mayor for almost three years.

Comment #16: Mnemosyne  on  08/30  at  05:28 PM

Antonio Villaraigosa would be 100x the Vice President Sarah Palin would be.

Comment #17: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  05:48 PM

Los Angeles is like what, 4 million people right?

Hell, probably just one random neighborhood of Los Angeles has more people than Alaska!

Comment #18: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  05:49 PM

Antonio Villaraigosa would be 100x the Vice President Sarah Palin would be.

And he’s already gotten his adultery scandal out of the way (like McCain) so he’d be home free! grin

Hell, probably just one random neighborhood of Los Angeles has more people than Alaska!

Depends—we have some pretty small neighborhoods.  Note that I’m counting LA city only—with LA County, it’s more like 9 million.  Sadly, all of our county supervisors suck ass and I wouldn’t put them in charge of a kindergarten parade.

Comment #19: Mnemosyne  on  08/30  at  06:06 PM

Sadly, all of our county supervisors suck ass and I wouldn’t put them in charge of a kindergarten parade.

I pretty much feel that way about the MA legislature.

Comment #20: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  08/30  at  06:17 PM

Mayor Wilder for VP! Seriously, he’s already been a Governor too.

Anyway Karl Rove said Tim Kaine was not qualified, because he was Mayor of Richmond which he called"not a big town” before being Governor.

HA!

Comment #21: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  06:31 PM

@ Auguste: Yeah, I’m completely freaked out. Now watch this drive.

Hilarious retort.

Comment #22: CHV  on  08/30  at  06:44 PM

@ Ben D:

Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see Rove try to spin how Palin’s “executive experience” on her local PTA board qualifies her to be VP.

Had Obama picked a running mate so light in the resume, Fox News would be foaming at the mouth waiting to take him/her apart.

Comment #23: CHV  on  08/30  at  06:47 PM

Actually, CHV, even Bill O is aghast. Don’t ask what drove me to watch it last night, but I did, and he is just floored by disbelief, and not in a good way.

Maybe Obama should go on his show after all.

Comment #24: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  06:52 PM

Actually, CHV, even Bill O is aghast. Don’t ask what drove me to watch it last night, but I did, and he is just floored by disbelief, and not in a good way.

He’s just upset that the Secret Service will tackle him if he offers her a loofah.

Comment #25: Mnemosyne  on  08/30  at  06:57 PM

Mnemosyne-

Win.

Comment #26: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  07:01 PM

Someone just had to bring up Portland for this former Oregonian to bitch about-what are the odds the shitacular Oregonian newspaper editorial pages are going to gush and fawn all over Palin? I can see it now-The Oregonian endorsing both McCain and Smith. Way to go Oregon!

Comment #27: Amanda in San Jose  on  08/30  at  07:03 PM

My hometown paper is worse. They claimed in an editorial that MLK would vote for McCain over Obama.

Comment #28: Ben D.  on  08/30  at  07:07 PM

This Lyda Green seems to be Sarah Palin’s archrival—see Sadly, No for a clip of Palin appearing on a radio show and laughing it up as they mock Green’s cancer.  (More details via Anchorage Daily News)

Comment #29: FlipYrWhig  on  08/30  at  07:23 PM

Amanda:

Funny you should mention that; I walked into my parents’ house today and my dad said “Well, the Oregonian loves Sarah Palin.”

“Story not found” on the Oregonian website, but I can’t say I’m remotely surprised. It seems like just a week ago someone called it “the liberal Oregonian” on this very blog’s comment section.

Comment #30: Auguste  on  08/30  at  08:24 PM

Susan Nielsen’s not so impressed, though.

Comment #31: Auguste  on  08/30  at  08:25 PM

So, is there a connection between Sara Palin and the Dominionists?

Comment #32: Coturnix  on  08/30  at  09:19 PM

The Oregonian is about as liberal as…well, its not. There’s a reason why the leading newspaper in a rather irreligious state chose Bush over Gore in 2000, and why Gordon Smith is a shoo in to be reelected in fucking goddamn Oregon in 2008 over his Democratic opponent. The Oregonian, a pseudo moderate right wing newspaper, has too much influence over stupider than thou suburban dumbasses in Clackamas and Washington Counties.

Comment #33: Amanda in San Jose  on  08/30  at  09:49 PM

And I’m sorry if what I’m saying doesn’t make sense to anyone who hasn’t lived in Oregon for at least the past decade (not to mention 27 years).

Comment #34: Amanda in San Jose  on  08/30  at  09:50 PM

I wouldn’t call Smith a shoo in, though, Amanda. Unless I’ve missed recent polling, it’s looking like a dead heat so far.

Comment #35: Auguste  on  08/30  at  09:58 PM

Again, I’m sorry to hog so much comment time, but Sarah Palin is the kind of stealth fundie candidate who most certainly appeals to dumbass suburban voters who see a female, cute, relatively young Republican and automatically assume “moderate.” The media loves to pin certain “likeable” Republican politicians as “mavericks” and “moderates” without any sort of common sense reasoning. Mostly, I’ll admit I’m venting over the fact that Gordon Smith seems to be a shoo in to be re-elected in one of the most mocked (by Republicans) liberal states in the nation.

Comment #36: Amanda in San Jose  on  08/30  at  10:00 PM

I wish that were true! But Smith always changes his tune when the going is tough, and its easy for him to claim the mantle of Morse and Hatfield when it politically suits him. Then again, I think very little of suburban and rural Oregon voters, so sue me.

Comment #37: Amanda in San Jose  on  08/30  at  10:02 PM

Honest question that I hadn’t seen on here yet:

What does everyone think about the rumor that Palin’s Down Syndrome child might actually be her grandchild?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/201754/741/20/580689

I think it should not make it past the tabloids, but it’s interesting from the standpoint of reproductive health issues that have been discussed here, among other things.

Comment #38: calvinhobbes  on  08/30  at  11:54 PM

The media loves to pin certain “likeable” Republican politicians as “mavericks” and “moderates”

John McCain built his LIFE around that principle, and Bush pulled it off just long enough to get elected (well, kind of).  All you have to do is be a Republican who is willing to laugh at him- or herself, and a busload of reporters will fall in line, thinking, Hey, this character is actually kinda fun to be around, kinda cool, compared to those _other_ guys who, like, CARE about things.

Comment #39: FlipYrWhig  on  08/31  at  01:41 AM

What does everyone think about the rumor that Palin’s Down Syndrome child might actually be her grandchild?

Not only do I think it’s BS, I think that pushing the rumor has ENORMOUS potential to backfire if it turns out to be true.  Most people who are not political junkies would probably hear the story and think, “Well, she was just trying to protect her daughter—good for her!” 

It’s a lose/lose.  It needs to be dropped, pronto.

Comment #40: Mnemosyne  on  08/31  at  02:34 AM

Most people who are not political junkies would probably hear the story and think, “Well, she was just trying to protect her daughter—good for her!”

Or they’ll think she’ll lie about anything to protect her political career. “Pro-Life Governor Has Downs Baby” works a lot better for Palin than does “Pro-Life Governor Has Unwed Pregnant Daughter.”

Comment #41: Molly, NYC  on  08/31  at  05:47 AM

John McCain built his LIFE around that principle . . .

Disagree. He built his life around being an ex-POW.

Comment #42: Molly, NYC  on  08/31  at  05:53 AM

Your buds at Sadly, No outdid themselves on Palin already:
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/11337.html

Don’t miss the colloquy on what a terrible mother she is in the comments. Yeah you stupid broads, shut up and vote for Obama like we tell ya or it will be your turn to be raked over the coals…

Comment #43: pukathon  on  08/31  at  11:00 AM

Mnemosyne—yeah, it’s Dan Rather/national guard all over again (except that actually had a grain of truth.)  After looking at the photo, Bristol looks normal (and there’s no way she wouldn’t be standing behind someone if it were true.)  And her mom wearing clothing that would hide it is pretty normal, too (not to mention there are plenty of reliable witnesses to her water breaking, etc.)

Comment #44: calvinhobbes  on  08/31  at  11:10 AM

I think it should not make it past the tabloids, but it’s interesting from the standpoint of reproductive health issues that have been discussed here, among other things.

It’s interesting from another standpoint, or it would be if it were true. Barack Obama would make sure his daughter wasn’t punished with his grandchild by killing it. Palin would make sure her daughter wasn’t punished with her grandchild by raising it.

Comment #45: Pablo  on  08/31  at  11:58 AM

Pablo: “Killing?”  Really?

Comment #46: calvinhobbes  on  08/31  at  12:31 PM

And if this is about whether more “killing” will occur under the Obama/Biden ticket or the McCain/Palin ticket, go look at the census figures and population estimates over the past few decades.

The numbers do not indicate that the ticket that would raise the (grand)child would do anything to encourage growth of families, or as you put it, reduce “killing.”

Comment #47: calvinhobbes  on  08/31  at  12:48 PM

Oh, goody, we have another forced birth advocate to play with!

So, Pablo, I assume you agree with Sarah Palin that women who have been raped or molested by family members should be forced to carry those children to term.  Should they also be forced to raise them, or will you be generous and allow them to put them up for adoption?

Comment #48: Mnemosyne  on  08/31  at  01:16 PM

Yes. I’m also curious to know whether a girl who is impregnated by a rapist and desperately seeks out an illegal abortion should be given a mere life sentence, or would a jolt from Old Sparky be more in order?

Comment #49: forked tongue  on  08/31  at  06:10 PM
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