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Pam’s Pit Picks of the Week - and more surprises in breed-specific legislation

I’m launching this feature on my pad, not here (unless folks are interested), but I wanted to post some of the recent garbage I’ve come across related to breed-specific legislation that I wanted to share…


Because Kate and I are dog lovers and know how hard the economy has hit local shelters (many people abandon or surrender their dogs for financial reasons) we made several deliveries of toys, towels and food to the Animal Protection Society of Durham last year but last fall we also decided to sponsor a dog cage. This will cover the costs to house a “guest” canines during the year in terms of food and necessities.

The APS handles the intake and adoption of animals for the city/county, with the city’s Animal Control handling animal pickup and enforcement of local ordinances. This differs from, say other county shelters handle both, and having visited some, the animals spend their limited time there before euthanasia in pitiful, horrible circumstances.

The dogs at the APS are in clean cinderblock suites, kept up by the many volunteers who walk and give the dogs human affection and attention to make them adoption-worthy candidates, and that includes the often forgotten and misperceived pit bulls, which are often pit mixes. No pittie is put up for adoption without temperament testing, so it’s a matter of educating folks that pits are great family dogs, love children—but they are not first-time adopter dogs, like many breeds that prospective owners should research rather than impulse adopt.

So I’m starting a weekly blog entry (no prompting from the APS, though they’ll probably gain more traffic, lol), where I feature some cute pit bulls that deserve a chance for a forever home with the right person or family who’s willing to put in the time, training and love to meet their needs, because the love they will receive from this very people-focused breed pays off in big dividends. My first two…

Too many dogs end up back in shelters, particularly after the holidays, because of the lack of understanding of the dog breed’s working, herding, burrowing, lure-chasing or guarding instincts (see Jack Russell Terriers, Border Collies, Weimeraners, German Shepherds, Rotties, Dobermans—and pits). If you can’t put in the time to give a positive outlet for them, you’ll have your furniture destroyed, or an anti-social, snipping, lunging, out-of-control dog—it’s not their fault, it’s you the owner—and knowing what you’re in for.

More below the fold that is something you should see, particularly those who believe in breed-specific bans. I was shocked at the number of breeds besides the “pit bull” (which has a preposterously broad definition) that you might not think some states and municipalities ban. Your breed may be next.


We both watch The Dog Whisperer (Cesar Millan, National Geographic) and “It’s Me Or the Dog” (with Victoria Stilwell on Animal Planet), and DogTown (Best Friends Animal Society, National Geographic). Anyone who wants to implement breed-specific legislation and believes that pit bulls are evil and not rehabilitable, should watch the NatGeo programs in particular. Cesar Millan is a huge advocate for pit bulls and frank about the facts and myths—and focuses on responsible dog ownership. See his pack gallery and his stories about pits Daddy and Junior.

But when I was watching a program about owners who couldn’t control their Shar Pei from going red-zone ape-sh*t when vistors came, I decided to look up the breed’s history, and what do you know, it was historically used for guarding and fighting. You don’t see that breed on most breed ban legislation. In fact, many advocates of the Shar Pei know the breed is no different from pit bulls in that respect, but try to hide the history to avoid getting on a ban.

Incidentally, Western breeders maintain that any dog in China that protects property is called a fighting dog, whereas in Canada and the United States, they are referred to as guard dogs. This is still a moot point. Up until the introduction of Breed Specific Legislation, designed to target breeds alleged to be “more likely” to attack and largely aimed at criminalising the American Pit Bull Terrier, the Shar-Pei was regarded as a breed designed, bred and selected for dog fighting.

After the introduction of various Breed Specific Legislation, many breeders started to deny the fighting ancestry and concocted fanciful tales of a hunting heritage. It is worth mentioning that the Chinese and Taiwanese still regard the Shar-Pei as a dog-fighting breed, although the prohibitive cost of the breed has done much to discourage such abuse.

Isn’t that special? And what about Rottweilers—how come they escape breed bans?

Rottweilers are a powerful breed with well developed genetic herding and guarding instincts. As with any breed, potentially dangerous behavior in Rottweilers usually results from irresponsible ownership, abuse, neglect, or lack of socialization and training. However, the exceptional strength of the Rottweiler is an additional risk factor not to be neglected. It is for this reason that breed experts recommend that formal training and extensive socialization are essential for all Rottweilers.

I guarantee you that a good number of Rottie owners haven’t gone through formal training, and those dogs can outweigh pits by 50 lbs. or more. And I can’t count the number of times I’ve had people recall some they know or themselves being bitted by a German Shepherd Dog, a breed rarely on a BSL list. But they are clearly a menace if untrained and do turn up in shelters a lot.

Moreover, studies rely on ‘reported’ bites, leading the National Geographic Channel television show, The Dog Whisperer to conclude that small dog breeds are likely responsible for more bites than large dog breeds, but often go unreported.[32] In addition, according to the National Geographic Channel television show, Dangerous Encounters, the bite of a German Shepherd Dog has a force of over 200 pounds (compared with that of a Rottweiler, over 300 pounds of force, a Pitbull, also over 200 pounds of force, a Labrador Retriever, of approximately 125 pounds of force, or a human, of approximately 170 pounds of force), which means it is important to note the impact that ‘reported’ bites and serious injury have on any dog bite studies and to distinguish a dog attack from ‘aggression’.[33] Regardless, one source indicates that fatalities have been attributed to over 30 breeds since 1975, including small breeds, such as the Pomeranian.[34]

These claims have also been disputed on the statistical basis that German Shepherds represent a higher proportion of the population than other breeds and also because of the use of German Shepherd Dogs as protection dogs, which would require controlling statistical data for “pet” or “companion” use and not military, police or guard use. An Australian report from 1991 indicates that German Shepherd Dog bites are still over-represented in Australia when the statistics take into account the difference in population (though not use).[35] Again, though, there is a difference between ‘aggression’ in a dog and a dog attack. It is also important to note that German Shepherds are very common in cross-bred canines. And due to their popularity the layman will likely recognize most GSD cross-breeds simply as “German Shepherd,” if a report is ever filed.

In fact my brother-in-law was just bitten by a GSD recently, while riding on his bike in a park. If that had been a pit or pit mix, would it have been reported? I’ll have to ask him sometime.

Anyway, take a look at this list of Breed-Specific Legislation implemented around the country. I couldn’t believe my eyes on this one.

Residents of the New York City Housing Authority are prohibited from owning the following dog breeds: Akita Inu, Alangu Mastiff, Alano Español, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Argentine Dogo, Bedlington Terrier, Boston Terrier, Bull and Terrier, Bull Terrier, Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Dogo Sardesco, English Mastiff, Fila Brasileiro, Gull Dong, Gull Terr, Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Korean Jindo Dog, Lottatore Brindisino, Neapolitan Mastiff, Perro de Presa Canario, Perro de Presa Mallorquin, Shar Pei, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Tosa Inu[45]

Honestly we’re down to banning these dogs now?


Bedlington Terrier (L), Boston Terrier (R).

Bedlingtons have NO fighting history. Boston Terriers, believe it or not, do, but it has been bred down over the years to be solely a companion dog. I want to know what the f*ck kind of information the New York City Housing Authority used to make that list up.

And Dobies, Rotties and German Shepherds DON’T make the above list, despite the factual information out there?! Oh wait, those are popular breeds, regardless of their potential for possible aggression issues in the wrong hands. And there are ridiculous iterations of this statement in almost all of the legislation listed, banning:

[A]ny dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds.

The canine merely has to look

somewhat like a pit bull

to be banned/destroyed, including mixes. That means you could have a Lab/Pit mix litter with some looking like the Lab, others like the Pit, and no idea which may have a dog-aggressive nature that the legislation is trying to ban. This is outlandishly subjective legislation intended, to scoop up enough dogs and deeming them dangerous, instead let’s bad owners off the hook, and punishes responsible owners.


My goal with this weekly feature is to give left-behind pit bull pet prospects some sunshine and light, rather than focus on those “pits” that generate bad headlines because of their owners. So many dogs that could brighten lives end up euthanized or ignored for purebred purchases from breeders or pet stores. Please support and encourage spay/neuter programs to reduce the population of unwanted cats and dogs brought into the world.

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 07:10 PM • (33) Comments

I understand the anger towards breed specific legislation, living in an an area that has a “pit bull” ban I’ve seen the damage it’s done.  However I cannot then see this jump to complaining that Rottweilers and German Shepherds somehow get “out of” discrimination, as both of these dogs were also attacked in the past.  Today’s pit bull is simply the Rottie of the early 90’s and the article you quote from points out a city in Ireland that banned Rotties and Dobes and German Shepherds.

Comment #1: hypatia  on  01/10  at  07:41 PM

No, it’s not that I want GSDs or Rotties added, it’s to point out that it wouldn’t be politically palatable to the public to add breeds that also have fighting or guarding heritage that are currently popular. Pit bulls bear the brunt of the blame because of bad PR and bad breeders/owners.

The bans don’t work, and don’t do anything to put the onus on ill-educated owners who acquire a breed because it’s “cute” before checking out its heritage and basic instinctual needs.

Comment #2: Pam Spaulding  on  01/10  at  08:20 PM

I never suggested that you wanted to add breeds to a ban list.

But to complain that other breeds don’t suffer from the same discrimination problems, when they have in the past and some continue to do so, does not help the issue.  It’s oppression Olympics for the canine world.

Comment #3: hypatia  on  01/10  at  09:14 PM

I think it was to point out that breed bans are a) cyclical and b) silly. Comprehensive education programs would do better, IMO.

Comment #4: sharlit159  on  01/10  at  09:34 PM

Pit bulls’  problem, as a breed, isn’t mainly legislation. It’s that they tend to be the breed of choice for assholes.  Every choad who thinks “oooh, I’m a bad-ass, and I’m gonna get me a mean dog to advertise the fact that I am not a nice person” decides that a pit will be just the thing. And he either mistreats it, or trains it to be vicious (which is probably abusive in itself), or at the very least, fails to train it to behave (e.g., puppies will chew things, such as your hand—but it’s less amusing in adult pits who haven’t learned different).

And when beating and yelling at the new toy gets old, it gets dumped, like you’d toss something in the trash.

Poodles do not get this treatment.

(One thing I like about pits: Putatively white short-hairs are actually pink, because their skin shows through. You don’t even have to dye them.)

Comment #5: Molly, NYC  on  01/10  at  09:36 PM

Seconded that shar peis are pretty damn strong - both physically and headstrong. They are not big, imposing dogs in terms of size but they can drag you around if they want to.
The shar pei that our family had growing up was the most bullheaded dog I’ve ever been owned by.
How people can just ignore that they were bred for fighting and aggression is beyond me.

Being a dog owner - a good, responsible one - is pretty serious stuff.
If only people took it as seriously as they do having a kid (well ok MOST people take that seriously anyhow) we could be spared a lot of agony.

Thanks Pam & Kate for being such great advocates for the shelter where you are.

Comment #6: Danica Lefse Queen  on  01/10  at  10:18 PM

Pit bulls’ problem, as a breed, isn’t mainly legislation. It’s that they tend to be the breed of choice for assholes.

Maybe it’d be better to have stricter requirements for owners to go to classes in order to own certain breeds?

Comment #7: banisteriopsis  on  01/10  at  10:42 PM

Is it totally stupid of me to raise a complaint on solely symbolic grounds?

What I mean is, I don’t think even dog breeds should be subject to genocidal “corruption of the blood” laws.

And am I totally off base when I suggest that the thought, “There are certain breeds of dog that are just too much trouble to have around, so we should drive them from our city, or forcibly sterilize them or better yet just round them up and kill them” makes it easier to apply the same mentality to people?

Comment #8: Dr. Psycho  on  01/10  at  10:50 PM

But to complain that other breeds don’t suffer from the same discrimination problems
I guess I’m trying to figure out why mentioning the obvious is riling you up. It happens to be true. It is a cyclical matter to find the demon breed to ban or kill, and Rotties and Dobies are just two that come to mind, that don’t land on many of the current breed bans. That’s not oppression Olympics. In the case of the pit bull there I believe much of the vilification in this cycle of blaming is tied to disdain and fear of thug culture (re: urban black/hispanic men) who breed these dogs specifically for fighting, so there’s additional prejudice heaped on the breed because of that.

Comment #9: Pam Spaulding  on  01/10  at  11:00 PM

Boston Terriers are banned from the NY Housing Authority???

You can put a Boston in a large purse.  Crazy.

Anyway, BSL is always political, usually following a highly-publicized animal attack.  No one stops to consider how exceedingly rare serious dog bites are, especially considering the high levels of dog ownership in North America, and no one thinks to ask those who study animal behaviour about the causes of and solutions to dog aggression.  It’s just one of the ways people’s irrational fears are pandered to in our society.

Comment #10: KristinMH  on  01/10  at  11:01 PM

I’ll admit. I have big concerns with pits. I’ve known some wonderful ones. I’ve heard the horror stories. I wouldn’t bring a pit into a household with children, no matter how sweet. I just - I’m sorry I wouldn’t.

But I’m getting ready to look for a new dog. And I hate to think that the pits. or the pit-looking dogs at the shelter, will be written off. I lost my baby girl, a Rott, to cancer last year at the age of 10. There’s no breed I’ve ever met with such a sweet, loving personality. And I grew up with GSDs. So I totally the bad rep thing. Still.

Thank you for this post, because I’ll do some more research. Where I live now, a big dog probably isn’t the best idea anyway. But any dog I get will be a rescue. I can do temperament testing, and I can look for scarring. But outside of that, I worry.

Comment #11: brenda  on  01/11  at  12:25 AM

All dogs will bite if provoked, and if you have ever been growled at by a full-size standard poodle, which is a pretty big dog, you wouldn’t cross them off your list either. I’m sure smaller dogs do probably bite more often, maybe because they’re tired of getting stepped on, but of course it’s easier in general to fend them off.

I have always had a phobia of large-ish dogs after a neighborhood dog that I had always played with before chased me and ripped my leg open, unprovoked, when I was about 5. (He very likely may have been abused by his owner, who left him chained outside a lot.) Felt since then I’d never have a dog I couldn’t control if it decided to turn on me. Which probably would not include pits, rotts, or GSDs. I don’t believe in bans, but I surely would like a lot stricter penalties for mistreating/dogfighting types of owners.

My son’s getting bigger now and the cat’s not much on playing, so we’ll be cruising shelters for a midsize or small mutt in a few years. Shelter pets are the best.

Comment #12: emjaybee  on  01/11  at  12:43 AM

I wouldn’t bring a pit into a household with children, no matter how sweet. I just - I’m sorry I wouldn’t.
Back in the day, Pits were known as the Nanny Dogs because of their tolerance and love of children. Pete of the Little Rascals/Our Gang was a Pit. Many are therapy dogs. Just like any breed, it’s the individual temperament of the dog that matters, as well as its socialization and training. Your fears are due to the current demonization of the breed despite ample evidence to the contrary and your own personal experiences. Every dog has the capability to bite, and even small breeds can kill an infant, so I believe the real problem is the fantasy that a certain breed will never harm a child, or has no line of aggression in its background.

Besides, Pits were trained for dog aggression, not human aggression, and that’s still true today with the slugs of the earth that fight them. Ones that turn on an owner during the fight while being handled are put down to remove them from the line.

I was pretty astonished to find just how pliable and accommodating my Pit Casey was in terms of handling. I can basically pit her up or manipulate her in any direction, hold any part of her body and she doesn’t pull back or tense up; I’ve never encountered that with my Lab Mix or Rhodesian Ridgebacks, who were quite mellow.

Comment #13: Pam Spaulding  on  01/11  at  01:48 AM

Brenda, when I was growing up we had a wolf mix. There are people who will tell you that my parents were crazy, and there are some areas where child protective services would have removed me from the home until they disposed of the dog. But it’s the temperament and training of a specific dog that matters, and she was a nanny dog.

That said, I actually worry that my current Rhodesian Ridge-back (lion hunter)/lab mix is too gentle and tolerant of my son. It’s hard to convince him that strange dogs require caution when she lets him get away with anything he pleases.

Comment #14: Av0gadro  on  01/11  at  02:02 AM

Pit bulls are like guns. They’re dangerous in the hand of bad owners. But fuck it, why take the risk?

In my neighberhood, all the deadbeat thugs who own pits are white-trash.

Comment #15: sirkowski  on  01/11  at  03:28 AM

Of the two times I’ve been bitten by dogs, one was a German Shepherd, the other a smallish mutt owned by a neighbor, that had never attacked me before.

For what it’s worth.

Comment #16: judybrowni  on  01/11  at  03:44 AM

My building does include Rottweilers and Dobermans (that feels like it should be “Dobermen”) on the no-go list, but it’s just as ridiculous as dismissing Pits out of hand. I remember visiting a friend’s house and watching her younger brother ride their Rottie around like a pony, and I remember taking care of the sweetest, most affectionate Dobe you’d ever want to cuddle (although her min-pin friend was a little sonofabitch). And then there’s the black lab in the building who does nothing but snarl and bark and the boxer who has actually lunged at my (wholly beta) husky. But God forbid anyone should have Susie in their apartment to fall asleep on their feet.

Comment #17: ACG  on  01/11  at  04:15 AM

Breed specific laws are bullsh*t!

A good friend of mine has two pit bulls and they are awesome. One of them is super-smart and somewhat timid. The other is just a goofball. My wife and I almost adopted a pit, but we are fond of coonhounds. So we ended up bringing home a pair of black and tans (not at the same time). Leroy Brown is an angel. Amos Moses, well, he’s kind of a pain in the ass but we love him anyway.

For what it’s worth my wife was attacked by a greyhound. He was a former track dog.

Comment #18: phil zombi  on  01/11  at  10:24 AM

Will New York ban my current dog next?  She looks almost as vicious as the Boston Terrier.

And I wouldn’t leave a baby or small child alone with ANY dog.  I watch my little Brussels like a hawk around kids and babies because you just never know.  Most of the dog biting babies/kids stories involve someone stupidly leaving the child unattended with the dog.  You just never know what a kid or baby is going to do that might scare or upset the dog, which leads to a dog biting.

In case anybody is wondering, yes, she was a rescue.

Comment #19: speedbudget  on  01/11  at  10:34 AM

My observation is that Boston Terriers are quite spastic, but I’d hardly call them dangerous.

I don’t have the patience to train up a dog right and I know it. Therefore, my only pet is an ancient and spoiled Himalayan cat who needs a few basics:

good quality food and clean water
clean kitty pan
Lots and lots of attention
vet care
brushing.

He’s affectionate, docile, and fairly dim. That’s the pet for me!

I have a friend with a (well trained) “white” Doberman. Apparently there is a campaign afoot, “Operation white-out,” that seeks to destroy all white Dobermans and extinguish them entirely. I still don’t get this.

Comment #20: Creepy Doll  on  01/11  at  01:18 PM

As with guns, I think we are just going to see more and more breed- and size-specific restrictions when people are living in close quarters and there is a relatively high rate of pet ownership. I think pit bulls have bred themselves into a dead-end ecological niche.

The thing about Boston terriers, btw, is that there are large variants of the Boston terrier: the breed standard is relatively small, but they can and have been bred larger and stronger.

Comment #21: Tyro  on  01/11  at  01:50 PM

“Operation white-out,” that seeks to destroy all white Dobermans and extinguish them entirely.

No Dobe lover wants to destroy white Dobermans. Apparently, the white Dobermans are albinos, making them very sensitive to light and subject to sunburn and skin cancer, as well as vision problems. Temperament problems, and other health problems, are also claimed. The Doberman breed club recommends that albinos and dogs with albino recessive traits not be bred.

Comment #22: Hector B.  on  01/11  at  01:58 PM

well i can KINDA understand why many terriers would be banned, as one of the defining characteristics is “ain’t scared of shit”. my family and i used to do rehabilitiations for Hearts United for the Animals, and at one point we were caring for about a dozen yorkies. three or four of them turned around pretty quick and “adopted” us, and considered our home and yard their turf. this in turn led to them chasing away any dog that just happened to walk down our street. it actually became a bit of a joke when the smallest one, named Aboo (R.I.P), chased of a pair of rotties; their owners were walking them up the street, and once they reached our house ‘Boo ran to the curb and went batshit crazy at ‘em. next thing you know the rotties were dragging the humans around the corner and away from crazy ‘lil bastard.
while i don’t like sweeping bans either, i do have to say that it is easier for a small dog to pee/poop somewhere and not get caught in the act (hell, most small dogs look like they’re sitting when they pee), which made caring for the previously mentioned yorkies, well, interesting.

Comment #23: The Gray Train  on  01/11  at  02:12 PM

They banned Boston’s?  I had a Boston that was rescued from an abusive breeder.  She was kept in a small cage and bred as often as possible.  She was the sweetest, most docile, and stupidest dog you could ever want.  She slept constantly on the closest lap she could find.  I have an autistic son who was a little too aggressive with her but she never did anything more than lick him.  The only time I ever heard her growl or bark was when she developed pancreatic cancer.  She barked at the furniture in my bedroom as if she was trying to protect me from it.

Comment #24: Tom P  on  01/11  at  02:38 PM

I’m sure smaller dogs do probably bite more often, maybe because they’re tired of getting stepped on, but of course it’s easier in general to fend them off.

I’d say it’s a combination of a Napoleon complex on the part of many smaller dogs and the understandable fear of being hurt.  A small dog can more easily be injured by a child than a large dog can, and it makes sense that smaller dogs would be more skittish around unpredictable and energetic children.

Comment #25: keshmeshi  on  01/11  at  02:58 PM

I don’t really like the dogs-guns analogy.  Dogs are living animals that have some rights themselves.  It’s really not practical to look at this from the same viewpoint as gun control.

Comment #26: bananacat  on  01/11  at  03:21 PM

My partner and I currently have a Boxer mix; we can’t quite figure out his mix, but it likely has pit in it. He is the most lovable, kind, and patient dog I have known in my life.  I can grab him and stick my hand right in his mouth if he is trying to eat something he shouldn’t - no fear or worries. He mostly just wants to cuddle 24-7 - a problem only because he thinks he is a 50 pound lap dog. Heck, he regularly gets beat up by two imperious cat and mostly just looks sheepish about it!

Comment #27: GourmetGoddess  on  01/11  at  03:28 PM

No pittie is put up for adoption without temperament testing, so it’s a matter of educating folks that pits are great family dogs, love children—but they are not first-time adopter dogs, like many breeds that prospective owners should research rather than impulse adopt

Many dogs, regardless of breed, are not first-time adopter dogs.  Some dogs, like some children, are just easier to raise.  They have unchallenging, uncomplicated personalities, and just want to get along. Some dogs are hard to screw up, not matter how inept their owner may be.

Others seem to be constantly challenging authority, looking for the next big challenge.  Dogs in the second category often have the potential to be the best pets, but they require an owner who understands canine behavior.  Too many dog owners think their pets are just humans in fur coats, and refuse to accept that their dog is a dog, a decendent of wolves.

While certain breeds are more likely to be challenging, personalities vary within breed, and dogs from supposedly family-oriented breeds can be difficult pets.

Some of the nastiests and/or most out-of-control dogs I’ve encountered are laboradors.  This despite the breed’s great reputation.  I imagine this is because people get labs expecting them to be out-of-the-box wonderful, not realizing that labs are hunting dogs who need training and plenty of exercise.

Boston terriers, seriously?  In my experience the breed is short on brains, hyperactive, but generally very good-natured.

Comment #28: adobedragon  on  01/11  at  03:48 PM

I moved from Australia to Northern Arizona three years ago, and met my first (of many) Pit Bulls.
I think they are banned in Oz, plus its so hard to import animals there, not many people will bother…that whole Rabies thing. (when I move back home, taking my two rescue Cattle dog mixes its going to be waaaay expensive and time consuming, but I could never leave them).
I still have the scars on my face from being bitten by a pig hunting dog when I was 4, (30 odd years ago) I don’t know want breed it was, but I still feel sorry for it. I just wanted to pat it and it wasn’t socialized. The owner shot it after it bit me.
I work in a awesome animal shelter as a vet tech and love it, best job I’ve ever had. Its not running at the moment but I worked on the Mobile Vet RV for over a year. We would go out to the Navajo and Hopi Nations, and other rural areas without vets and do low cost spay/ neuter and vaccine clinics.
Our shelter got a grant to offer free spay/neuter to pit bulls and mixes. Was a great success and I think we did good.
One clinic we did was all pits, we had 17 in one go, caged and operated on in the mobile clinic, which isn’t that big. They were all wonderful, sweet and handled the stress of it all very well.

Great post and keep up the good work. Education is the key to well, pretty much everything.

Chihuahua’s, now Chihuahua’s wig me out, with their twitchy, boggle eye ways.

Comment #29: Coz  on  01/12  at  12:08 AM

I’m currently caring for my downstairs neighbor’s Pit )a rescue dog) while my neighbor is at work. She’s a fearsome-looking dog—heavily muscled and with impressive jaws—but she’d an intelligent, goofy sweetheart who’s a delight to be around. I’m not afraid of her at all. I also live with a similarly goofy, sweet black lab who allows kids to lead him around the house like a pony. In both cases, the dogs have been well-socialized and -trained. My son was attacked by a lab mix whose owners kept him out in the backyard most of the time, and who was frantic to get out of his enclosure (and frequently did).

I’m not afraid of breeds; I’m fearful of neglectful or abusive owners.

Comment #30: jenofiniquity  on  01/12  at  04:51 AM

My baby is a Husky/GSD mix.  She has Husky markings in GSD colors and looks terribly fierce, but she’s the worst watchdog in the history of dogs.  If you open the door to my house, she will head out for a run - and good luck catching her.  The best I manage is to drive slowly, like a pace car, and lead her away from busy areas.  Then I drive until she gets tired.  Only then will she get in the car.  Whoever had her as a pup must have beaten her for running (a necessary thing for Huskies to do), because even 7 years after we brought her home, she hesitates to come to us when she gets out.  Needless to say, we spend a lot of time walking her and playing with her so she doesn’t feel the need to escape to get her exercise in.  We adopted her from a shelter after she was dropped off, adopted, and returned.  All she needed to be a wonderful companion was love and the chance to run.  It makes me sad that the people who had her - both times - weren’t capable of giving her that.

Folks need to think about what they’re getting into when they bring home a dog.  It’s a big commitment and like any other, how it goes directly correlates to what you put into it.

Comment #31: Reba  on  01/12  at  01:01 PM

@31- I have a GSD/Husky/something small mix! She LIVES to run away, and has the GSD brain for figuring out ways to escape. (I run/walk her 2-6 miles a day. She gets exercise, she’s just a fantastic little asshole.)

My GSD mix (who looks like a small weird GSD) and my Rottie mix are both unacceptable to several local housing agencies. They both have been lovable and fantastic with socialization and training, and both have been WAY more trouble than my roommates’ pit bulls. Come to think of it, my roommates got in fights an awful lot. Imagine the uproar if you started banning people who engaged in aggressive activities (military or even just infantry, mixed martial arts, boxing, etc) from renting. I’d have a trickier time thinking of 50 college-age dudes who have never displayed ‘human aggression’ as adults than 50 dogs.

Also- OT, but a human can bite harder than a Lab? That’s hilarious.

Comment #32: Ozzie  on  01/13  at  12:09 AM

I’d say it’s a combination of a Napoleon complex on the part of many smaller dogs and the understandable fear of being hurt.  A small dog can more easily be injured by a child than a large dog can, and it makes sense that smaller dogs would be more skittish around unpredictable and energetic children.
Also that small dogs are often spoiled by their owners and poorly-trained. A lot of people will overlook something a small dog does that wouldn’t overlook the same behavior from normal-sized dogs…

Comment #33: Devonian  on  01/13  at  12:33 AM
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