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Poll Fun Mega Magic Time!

imageHow do you artificially inflate opposition to abortion?  Make like Charmaine Yoest and conflate people who support abortion rights with those who don’t

Lost in all the spin about “common ground” is the bottom line reality that Americans already share common beliefs about abortion policy. A Gallup poll released this May found that while 50 percent of Americans describe themselves as “pro-choice,” a full 71 percent of Americans believe that abortion “should be legal only under certain circumstances,” or “illegal in all circumstances.”

Unfortunately, looking at the results of the poll linked in the quote, what Yoest did was conflate support for abortion rights with absolute opposition to abortion rights for a national consensus that we should and shouldn’t have abortion rights.  Which is, uh…what’s the word?  Dishonest?  Stupid?  Mendacious?  That’s it.  Mendacious!

I’m not a particular fan of the “legal under any circumstances” versus “legal only under certain circumstances” distinction, if only because I think most people can think up at least one circumstance where someone shouldn’t be allowed to get an abortion that would immediately push them into the more restrictive second group - most of them revolving around non-medical late-term abortions.  But regardless, what we see above is that 82% of America supports abortion rights of some sort.  Seventeen percent don’t.  This constitutes a national consensus…against choice.  Don’t ask.

Common-sense restrictions on abortion, like parental notification and spousal notification receive high levels of support. And this is the second reason the truth about the data on abortion reduction matters. There are policies that have been proven to reduce the abortion rate. For example, research from Michael New of the University of Alabama has demonstrated the effectiveness of parental-notification laws in reducing abortions. Nevertheless, it is precisely this kind of common ground, abortion reduction policy that Obama actually opposes.

And good for him!  As Yoest points out, the primary purpose of notification laws isn’t to help women make the right choice, but instead to keep them from making a particular choice.  How most who don’t believe condoms are murder and embryos are people look at abortion reduction is A.) encouraging measures that prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place and B.) providing a system of health care and an economy that treats children as more than once-a-year tax credits and families as more than higher premium opportunities for insurance companies. 

You see, the way you have happier, healthier families and happier, healthier children is for families to make the conscious, planned decision to have children, and be able to ensure to the best of their ability the children’s access to food, shelter, health care and the other basics.  It’s why they’re called “Planned Parenthood” and not “Reckless Pill Poppin’ and Unforeseen Baby Squeezin’ Parenthood”.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 05:52 PM • (13) Comments

Man, Cakewrecks is everywhere these days.

Comment #1: chingona  on  08/18  at  06:56 PM

Ah ha.  I was going to ask about that baby ass cake.

Comment #2: The Opoponax  on  08/18  at  07:11 PM

Jesus told Yoest personally that it’s okay for her to lie about most Americans being against choice because it serves God’s purpose.  And if He tells you, you gotta do it, no questions asked.

See, even though God is like all powerful and stuff (like sending a hurricane to destroy New Orleans because of gay people, and making George Bush president), when it comes to abortion God is powerless, or something.  So he depends on us to stop abortion, which is an affront to everything Godliness.

Jesus also told her that condoms are murder and give you STDs, that birth-control pills cause pregnancy, and even the “Rhythm Method” is wrong.  And BTW, touching your wee wee or hoo hoo before, during, or after marriage, or even thinking about it, is wrong, wrong, wrong!...

Comment #3: MikeEss  on  08/18  at  07:13 PM

Obviously the arrangement of choices in that poll is designed to understate support for abortion rights. Ask the same question replacing “Legal only under certain circumstances” with “Illegal only under certain circumstances” and you’ll see quite a different result.

Comment #4: JT  on  08/18  at  11:47 PM

Without specific penalties attached, the “legal” and “illegal” labels don’t really mean anything either. Leaving your car in a parking space after the metered time has expired is illegal. So is not coming to a complete stop before turning right on red.

(I think this is even more the case when people are asked about spousal or parental notification—it’s easy to answer according to the notion that it would be nice if wives told their husbands or young women told their parents, without really buying into the idea that someone should do hard time for acting otherwise.)

Comment #5: paul  on  08/19  at  12:29 AM

The quote about notification decreasing abortion should be trumpeted loud and clear by any pro-choicers who want to dispel the myth that restrictions are for the “woman’s own good”.  Clearly, they are just a way to bully women into continuing unwanted pregnancy, and have nothing at all to do with the good of the woman.

Comment #6: Neko Onna  on  08/19  at  12:34 AM

Policies that block access to abortion prevent abortions! HOLY SHIT WHO KNEW

Comment #7: dan  on  08/19  at  12:37 AM

Can someone explain to me why a state would require a minor to obtain parental permission to get an abortion, but no parental permission is required to carry a pregnancy to term?  A full-term pregnancy is much more dangerous to the health of a teenager than an abortion.

Comment #8: CParis  on  08/19  at  12:50 AM

You see, CParis, there’s the fact that- oh hey, look, a distraction! It’s shiny!

Comment #9: StarStorm  on  08/19  at  06:10 AM

Because of course when the teenager carries the pregnancy to term she’ll redeem her sluthood and become a madonna by either marrying the father and bringing the baby up as a SAHM in a poor-but-honorable household, or else give it up to a deserving white-or-essentially-so family that lives in the suburbs. Don’t You People know anything about patriarchal narratives?


(sorry, probably shouldn’t post right after newborn overnight shift)

Comment #10: paul  on  08/19  at  11:43 AM

I RTFA, and nowhere does Yoest “conflate support for abortion rights with absolute opposition to abortion rights”.  And you do realize that if you’re claiming everyone who supports legal abortion in at least some circumstances as a pro-choicer, you’re claiming George Bush and John McCain, among others.

America doesn’t have a pro-choice majority (not as pro-choice advocacy groups define it) or a pro-life majority (not as pro-life advocacy groups define it).  It has an “I don’t like abortion, but I also don’t want to think about it very much” majority.

Comment #11: Jen R  on  08/19  at  01:50 PM

CParis, can you explain why a minor shouldn’t need parental consent or notification to get an abortion but needs parental consent to get her ears pierced?

Comment #12: Sharon  on  08/19  at  08:11 PM

Damn, Sharon, you’re right. It’s time to repeal those draconian ear-piercing notification laws.

Now, to repeat Cparis’ question: Can you explain why a state would require a minor to obtain parental permission to get an abortion, but no parental permission is required to carry a pregnancy to term?

Comment #13: ksms  on  08/19  at  10:12 PM
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