well it was either freaking out about this or being aborted AFTER you’re born…
or lapel pins…
or the “race card”
or
or
or!

Also notice that the latter poll comes from Zogby, who in a race between candidate A and candidate B shows a surprising strength for Eddie Murphy.

I laughed so fucking hard I had to read the whole post to my coworker. Thanks for making me disruptive, Jesse.

At least Survey USA isn’t polling McCain/Bloomberg vs. Obama/Bloomberg.

I am particularly fascinated by the hypothetical McCain/Carter versus Obama/Snufflufagus matchup.

Shrek Eddie Murphy, Nutty Professor Eddie Murphy, Meet Dave Eddie Murphy, or, God forbid, Norbit Eddie Murphy?

I refuse to give any real credence to phone-based polls.  No cell phone users are polled.  In a society where citizens are increasingly wireless, this excludes a lot of people who just happen to be largely young and liberal.  Coincidence?

They don’t have the poll matchup I’m looking for: Obama Vs. Batman

Polls right now don’t mean anything.  It’s not only a low-information time, but tickets aren’t set, conventions haven’t happened, debates haven’t taken place, ground games haven’t ramped up.  But if you want to, go ahead and freak out over McCain/Bloomberg vs. Obama/Webb.

Would you really be saying this if your man Obama was up 10-20 points?

For some reason I think not…

Would you really be saying this if your man Obama was up 10-20 points?

Considering that for the first, oh, four months after sewing up the nomination in 2004 Kerry seemed to treat his victory in the general election as a done deal, yes, I think many of us would be saying that it was ultimately meaningless for polls to show Obama with a 10-20 point lead.

Please do NOT mention James Webb in the same breath with Obama, even in jest.

AP/Ipsos is also showing Obama with a lead right now.

I do think that Dweeze (and Jesse) are right, though—at this point, the polls are pretty meaningless.  It’s nice to see that the whole Race Card thing didn’t seem to cause more than a momentary dip, though.

I think many of us would be saying that it was ultimately meaningless for polls to show Obama with a 10-20 point lead.

Obamabots already think Obama is president even though polls show him tied with McCain - this despite McCain’s awful campaigning and historical trends.

Amidst this you are trying to tell me that if The Exalted One was 20 points ahead in the polls Obamabots would not be screaming about how this proved their “Change” was on the way?

Instead you honestly think they would take the cautious let’s-wait-and-see approach despite the fact that with no lead in the polls they already think The Change is on an inexorable march to victory this November?

Way to shift gears there, Zogi. You originally asked if “You” (presumably Jesse, since it was his post you quoted, but maybe you have a different definition of the word) would be saying this if “your” (again, presumably a reference to Jesse) man Obama had a 10-20 point lead in the polls. I responded by saying that “many of us” (many being a rather nebulous quantity, meaning different things to different people, but meaning to most people [most being another nebulous quantity] something less than all) would be saying that, primarily based on past experience. Yet you somehow, either intentionally because you know you can’t win the argument on the merits or unintentionally because, well, let’s not go there, you extrapolate that I was referring to the Obamabots. One would think it was pretty clear that I wasn’t, especially since the Obamabots are the people most likely to be freaking out because of the recent polls and the ones most likely being addressed by Jesse’s admonition. But just in case it wasn’t clear to you, I wasn’t addressing how most Obamabots would react to a 10-20 point lead in the polls right now.

For some reason, I think you’d swim around in a pool of warm baby food singing “Oh, What A Beautiful Mornin’” with no pants on.

You say that like it’s a bad thing…

Jesse, I love you… and my kids are both wondering why Mom just lost it and needs a tissue. My hero…