I know I shouldn’t let it get to me, but it pisses me off every time somebody says something like “President B. Hussein.”  Remember how often liberals were yelled at for not being respectful enough of our President for the past eight years?  But now these same people think our new President does not deserve that same modicum of respect?

You see, Muslims are so incredibly and indelibly angry about everything that trying to calm them down only makes them angrier, so the only way to make them less angry is to do the very things which make them such crazed murderers.

This nation already dealt with the crazed murderers who couldn’t be negotiated with.  Utterly decimating and marginalizing a population has a way of forcing them to be peaceful.  The pequot used to murder settler children.  Haven’t had much trouble from them lately, have we?

Not nearly so long as the past eight years have been.

The global problems generating from within the Muslim world today are so odious and so obviously self-inflicted that any honest speech on the matter would offend and enrage Muslims the world over.

Because, you know, the West had absolutely NOTHING to do with the creation of Iraq and Kuwait, the governance of Saudi Arabia, the rise of Saddam Hussein, the Shah of Iran, the creation of Israel, Israel’s subsequent actions towards it’s neighbours, the Iraq-Iran war, the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan, or any other event in the Middle East right up to the totally INCOMPREHENSIBLE attack on Sept. 11th.

Also, can we stop discussing the odious and obviously self inflicted problems women have? This blog whines a hell of a lot about things that have nothing to do with men.

Congratulations, Jesse, you found somebody on the internet who used exaggeration and hyperbole to make a point, so that their words aren’t literally true.  We’re all just shocked.  Shocked.

While it’s possible that it could turn out badly, that is, expensive, embarrassing, dangerous or goofy, it’s more likely to be harmless.  The security arrangements alone could disrupt the local economy.

Even an attempt at assassination could set back international relations for decades.

The result depends, really, on where the speech is given.  I’d approve a speech in Turkey, Kuwait or Saudi Arabia.  Iraq may be appropriate.  But the outer edges, like Indonesia or Morocco, would be seen as irrelevant.  Egypt could come off as a master stroke.  Dubai or Oman would probably generate regional jealousies.  In fact, anyplace would.

While some locations would be seen as provocative by one group or another, Jordan would probably have a healing effect.

Location matters most.  But I suspect that they’ll have to compromise on a multi-city tour to soothe ruffled feathers.

Jesse—You clearly don’t know your history.  After fighting several losing wars of aggression, the Pequot are still around but decimated and pacified.

Oh, I think we all understand the history there, Al. Most of us just find it sickening and horrifying that you seem to be advocating repeating it.

Jesse, Andrew—The Pequot declared total war on the settlers.  The alternative was either self-defense or simply letting them to continue slaughtering settlers.  Apparently, your belief is that any self-defense that will involve killing more than ten percent of a population is impermissible.  So, as long as 11% of Muslims are dedicated to destroying western civilizations—and we may already be at that point—we’re not allowed to fight back, for that would be genocide.  I can’t imagine why we don’t trust Democrats with national security.  Even Obama recognizes this, and kept Bush’s secretary of defense.

Oh people are responsible for what they say.  And they’re even responsible for being reasonably clear.  It’s just that it’s not exactly news to find an example of overheated criticism.

You can’t go around pointing out all the faults on the web.  There are too many of them.

The Atlas Shrugged site is against terrorism, which is nice, but often lacks perspective.  So?

I do like the photo of Obama in that white outfit though.  Do you think it’s a photoshop?

These sweaty-lipped proclamations of how AWEFUL the next four years are going to be smell like wishful thinking to me. They so desperately want to believe it, it’s beginning to take on the qualities of an incantation.

I suspect that when President B. Hussein X-Man doesn’t issue in the caliphate they’ll just
pretend he did and amp up the caterwauling . It might make it easier to tell them apart from the sane Americans. Although I guess it isn’t all that hard now. The smell of fear is pretty distinctive.

Fred & Al -

If you’re not going to say something reasonably intelligent, could you at least try to be funny?

Back on topic -

Again with the “gird you loins” crap. Skary Blak Man gonna castrate whitey! Do they really not get how anachronistic language like that makes them sound?

The thing that amuses me about “Gird your loins” is that the unspoken follow-up is “for battle”... And if I were going into battle, wingnut bloggers are the last possible allies I’d want on my side.

And if you’re going to lead the popular revolution against the tyranny of Blackazoid, you should avoid having cowards, freepers, and mall ninjas as your only soldiers.

Come to think of it, pro-genocidists had a pro-genocide candidate, and more people preferred to vote for the Scary Black Socialist Muslim Non-Genocidist Terrorist Black Guy.

Nicely put, Ms Kate.  And if we follow their logic further I guess Greenwald et al must agree that during the War of Independence, we Americans were totally in the wrong for our treasonous and terrorist actions against the British.

It could just be that it’s really freaking early and I’m tired, but all I can read through the trolls’ baw-ing is “Jesse, Jesse; you’re being glib. YOU DON’T KNOW THE HISTORY OF GENOCIDE. I DO.” And I got a chuckle.

Thank you, trolls.

Anyway, without more tasty word food for our friends: Honestly, the whole Obama-Muslim thing frustrates me to no end. First of all, because he’s not. Second of all, so the fuck what if he was? And lastly, because the logical progression that Muslim—>Middle Eastern—->OMG TERRORIST is both wrong and dumb. Two things I really hate to see together, let alone on their own.

Utterly decimating and marginalizing a population has a way of forcing them to be peaceful.

Only if you’re planning to move in and settle on their land yourself once you’ve killed off the native population, as we did.  Otherwise, not so much, as can be seen in Ireland, Indochina/Vietnam, Algeria, India, Egypt, etc. etc. etc.  Trying to “marginalize a population” when you don’t actually live there is essentially impossible in the long term, and usually in the short term, too.  Or did you miss the whole thing from the 1920s to the 1970s where colonization was exposed as the utter failure that it is?

So when are you and your family headed to Riyadh to kill some Saudis and take over their property?  If you want to get rid of all of the Muslims, that’s your only option.  Hope you like the desert.

But now these same people think our new President does not deserve that same modicum of respect?

Blitzgal

I hope, and suspect, that the people who make these kinds of allegations and dog-whistle attacks on Obama (“Barack X Hussein” etc. etc.) are more isolated in their opinions than they realize. In a recent conversation with my Reaganite boss, he said that while he was not a fan of Obama, it is time to accept that Obama is the president-elect and stop with the character attacks.

We’ll see how things develop, I guess.

Muslims are so incredibly and indelibly angry about everything that trying to calm them down only makes them angrier…

Are conservative pundits capable of writing anything without it being full of projection?

Thank God (well, not all of God, just the Father) there are Right-Thinking Conservative Americans who can step in and warn us to gird our loins against the Scary Islamofascist Negrosity of Blackazoid!…

I keep my loins girded at all times. Or my pants would fall down.

Apparently, your belief is that any self-defense that will involve killing more than ten percent of a population is impermissible.

It’s way, way simpler than that. We think that starting a long-term war against the members of a major world religion is a horrible policy for the USA to follow. Horrible on a moral, strategic, economic, and cultural level.

No leader should put troops into the field merely to gratify his own spleen; no leader should fight a battle simply out of pique. But a kingdom that has once been destroyed can never come again into being; nor can the dead ever be brought back to life. Hence the enlightened leader is heedful, and the good leader full of caution.

Hatred is a shitty reason for something as damaging as a war.

I hear he toured with Joan Baez, the commie

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As if more docile Native Americans, who didn’t declare out-and-out war, didn’t get decimated too.

What 舞浜　ホテル said.

I have to say, if I’m going to refer to the President-Elect by initials only, I usually prefer BHO even though that’s the choice of wingnuts.  Abbreviating it to BO looks worse. 

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do.”  Samuel P. Huntington

It’s time to put away the big stick as our first response to every challenge to our hegomony.

“This nation already dealt with the crazed murderers who couldn’t be negotiated with.”

You mean they captured and killed Bin Laden? I can’t believe I missed that.

“Utterly decimating and marginalizing a population has a way of forcing them to be peaceful.”

A shame it was in the wrong country. If the US put all the resources it used in Iraq against the Taliban in Afghanistan, your contention might have had a chance of making sense.

Also, kudos on the genocide solution. That always solves problems in the modern world.

“Congratulations, Jesse, you found somebody on the internet who used exaggeration and hyperbole to make a point, so that their words aren’t literally true.”

Problem is, the points he was trying to make were flawed to begin with. He assumes competence on the part of BushCo, he assumes that BushCo’s brought the full weight of the military on the true perpetrators and supporters of the 9-11 attacks, he assumes that 2GW and 3GW methods work in 4GW environment. Wrong on all counts.

The birth certificate lawsuit is still ongoing.  I believe Justice Thomas has passed it along to the other justices to potentially be heard at the Supreme Court level(!)

The other stink I’m hearing is from some right-wing group that claims Hillary Clinton cannot be named Secretary of State because she’s gotten a pay raise while Senator.  Article 1, Section 6 of the Constitution is way more important than measly little issues like habeas corpus, don’t you know…

Remember when having the middle name “Hussein” was totally going to cost Obama the election? Yeah. So do I.

This nation already dealt with the crazed murderers who couldn’t be negotiated with.

But unfortunately, the Republican Party is still here.

The other stink I’m hearing is from some right-wing group that claims Hillary Clinton cannot be named Secretary of State because she’s gotten a pay raise while Senator.

It’s the other way around—she can’t be Secretary of State because she voted for the SoS to get a pay raise while she was a senator.  It’s a leftover from the days when we didn’t have political parties, so the Founders didn’t realize that someone could make a vote in the Senate under one administration and then be appointed to a post by a different administration.

There’s already a fix that other presidents have used (including Nixon), which is to reduce the salary back to the level it was before the vote, but apparently what was good enough for Nixon isn’t good enough for Obama.

“Gird your loins”?

All Muslamofascist B. Hussein needs to do in his Arabian speech is to be a Nice Guy™to the Islamo world and they’ll get in a positive relationship with the USA of America so that we can do unspeakable things to them.  I mean, come on, this is plain ol’ Dr. Phil stuff here, kids stuff. Haven’t you DEMONcraps learned anything from the adults?

All Muslamofascist B. Hussein needs to do in his Arabian speech is to be a Nice Guy™to the Islamo world and they’ll get in a positive relationship with the USA of America so that we can do unspeakable things to them.

I beleive that’s France’s strategy (this century).  The USA is just a Jerk.

So we have to ask: which population has more genetically-linked disease related to years of marriage within a closed population: Muslims or Sephardic Jews?

Ashkenazi?

(BTW, Google…when are you going to add the name of the next POTUS to your spelling dictionary in Chrome?...)

I just added it to the one in SeaMonkey, FWIW.

I see that girding ones loins now applies to both ladies and gents.  Progress of a sort.  Possibly.

Andrew: This is the funniest thread I’ve seen in ages, I can’t possibly compete.  And on intelligence, I don’t have to.

That was the European meme at the time—feel free to take land from indigenous peoples if they aren’t using it by farming and ranching.

Just think how much easier it would have been if they could have claimed the Pequot might have been building frigates that could be used against England, or given to pirates, and were in need of liberating from their tyrant rulers.