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Professional homobigots losing their spirit

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So, the State Department (under Hillary Clinton) has changed the passport application to make life easier for gay parents and other non-traditional families, by changing the terms “Mother” and “Father” to “Parent 1” and “Parent 2”.  This will make life a lot easier on gay parents, who currently have to carry like 15 kinds of proof of legal custody in order to travel over national borders with their children.  Fox News reported on it, and naturally, they had to give plenty of space for professional bigots to screech about the evils of a decision that quite literally has nothing to do with them, and is probably something they wouldn’t even notice if they weren’t trolling around looking for reasons to believe gays have too much freedom of movement. 

But I must say I detect a note of malaise.  The professional bigots aren’t really bringing their A game anymore, but instead copying and pasting the same anti-gay screed they’ve trotted out a million times before.

“Only in the topsy-turvy world of left-wing political correctness could it be considered an ‘improvement’ for a birth-related document to provide less information about the circumstances of that birth,” Family Research Council president Tony Perkins wrote in a statement to Fox News Radio. “This is clearly designed to advance the causes of same-sex ‘marriage’ and homosexual parenting without statutory authority, and violates the spirit if not the letter of the Defense of Marriage Act.”

Robert Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, agreed. “It’s part of an overall attempt at political correctness to diminish the distinction between men and women and to somehow suggest you don’t need both a father and a mother to raise a child successfully,” said Jeffress. “(This decision) was made to make homosexual couples feel more comfortable in rearing children.”

These quotes could be about pretty much anything, if you think about it.  They’re totally phoning it in.  The heavy use of scare quotes where they’re inappropriate? Check. Suggesting that it’s pointless to have children for any other reason than to prove the virility of heterosexual men? Check.  Dropping the word “homosexual” a lot in hopes that people think about butt sex instead of two same-sex parents trying to corral a toddler through airline security, just like everyone else? Check.  Suggesting that the only acceptable response to homosexuality from the government is ghettoizing people, depriving them of their basic freedom of movement, and seeking ways to shake their finger at them for who they are? Check. 

This bigotry is really weak sauce. They should take some notes from Michele Bachmann.  Why just push one wingnut resentment button when you can just be like a kid in an elevator hitting every floor?  I mean, this is about passports, which implies travel to foreign nations.  There are way more buttons you could be wacking with this one.  Let me rewrite it for them.

“Only in the topsy-turvy world of left-wing political correctness could it be considered an ‘improvement’ for a birth-related document to provide less information about the circumstances of that birth,” Family Research Council president Tony Perkins wrote in a statement to Fox News Radio. “What kind of pansy, egg-headed world do these homosexuals live in that they need to be traveling with children anyway?  We have peer-reviewed research that indicates that homosexuals only want to travel with children so they can take them to countries that practice socialism.  What kind of nation allows two men to take a child to a place like Paris for a re-education camp in socialized medicine, homosexual marriage, and pacifism?”

Robert Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, agreed. “It’s part of an overall attempt at political correctness to allow homosexuals to cross over our borders, when we know they can’t be up to any good traveling around, no doubt drinking wine and eating cheese that doesn’t come presliced,” said Jeffress. “Passports are for Christians going on missions in foreign countries, not so some frou-frou art lovers can indoctrinate their fake children into leftist hedonism by taking them to Louvre.”

See what I mean?  Passports are a rich mine, where you can bash people for having intellectual curiosity, tolerance, and for not hating the French. Also, for seeing children as people who deserve adventure and fun, instead of tiny little Satanic rebels who need any spiritedness beat out of them. They could have totally linked gay rights with all these things, and failed miserably.  I think they’re losing steam.  The DADT repeal is driving home how the bigots are going to lose this battle, as they have in the past.  Tony Perkins spent the first half of his career trying to cover up his association with racist groups.  Now he’s turning into the George Wallace figure of the gay rights movement, and that’s got to be demoralizing.  Of course, I couldn’t think of a better person for it to happen to.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 11:02 AM • (59) Comments

FYI - I think stick rule is in the “keeping up appearences thread” .

Comment #1: kitten parade  on  01/08  at  12:01 PM

Yeah, he’s gone.  Email is the best way to make sure I grab trolls.  Thanks!

Comment #2: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/08  at  12:04 PM

“Passports are for Christians going on missions in foreign countries, not so some frou-frou art lovers can indoctrinate their fake children into leftist hedonism by taking them to Louvre.”

Pastor Jeffress soon after left the ministry to pursue a career in self parody.

Comment #3: geor3ge  on  01/08  at  12:06 PM

Amanda, I think you will find this article interesting food for thought and debate on several levels. The Atlantic Monthly does a kind of neotraditionalist analysis of the Duke Powerpoint woman:

The Hazards of Duke

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As for the extremely rapid mainstreaming of gay civil rights, my only worry is that it’s happening so quickly and completely that newly-mainstreamed gay couples will feel it’s okay to vote conservative because of tax issues rather than sticking with the center-left coalition that mainstreamed their rights. This was my 83yo right-wing Fox-chompin’ (though rabidly atheist) dad’s opinion: “I didn’t know until recently that gays made more money than straight people: they’re our natural allies.”

I was at a party last month, chatting with a friend’s boyfriend while he rolled a joint, and he said to me, “20 years ago, when we were in college, if someone asked you which would be legal first, pot or gay marriage, what would you have said?” It was 25 years ago, for me, and even though I went to a very liberal school, I barely knew any out gay people. The rapidity is astonishing—and very positive.

Comment #4: felagund  on  01/08  at  12:11 PM

Just kind of thinking aloud here, but I wonder if part of the reason gay rights has moved forward at a relatively fast pace is that so many members of the republican party are closeted gay men and women, so even though the rank and file tea partiers are rabid homo bigots, the people with real power are not.  To bad the republicans don’t have some closeted enviromnetalists in their party.

Comment #5: John Rove  on  01/08  at  01:19 PM

The GOP has plenty of closeted environmentalists and even some closeted people who think the rich should pay more taxes and that that’s the best way to end the deficits.  But they’re too busy raking in the cash to care about reality and such.  They’re obsessed with money and power more than the truth.  The modern GOP is all about keeping wages for most people low and letting corporations control the money.  That’s behind all their bedrock “values”.

Comment #6: 3letterjon  on  01/08  at  01:38 PM

Okay, I don’t care even slightly about what parents are called on official forms. It really means nothing to me.

But since there are people eager to declare that the sky is falling whenever they see “parent1” and “parent2,” I wish someone would change it to checkboxes instead.  Like this:

Name: ______________ [ ]Mother [ ]Father

Name: ______________ [ ]Mother [ ]Father

If they’re sincere about having nothing against teh gays, but just wanting to preserve the words “mother” and “father,” then of course this would make everyone happy. And if it’s not really the words they care about, as I suspect is usually the case, then at least we’d see what specious new rationalization they come up with.

Comment #7: Ampersand  on  01/08  at  01:43 PM

Ampersand, some parental-units don’t fit there.  Stepmothers? Stepfathers? Uncle? Legal guardian?  There’s no way to please everyone.  “Parent” is pretty good, I think.

Comment #8: 3letterjon  on  01/08  at  02:13 PM

Basically their argument boils down to “let’s see how many times we can say ‘political correctness.’”

Comment #9: Albert Cirrus  on  01/08  at  02:46 PM

Amanda,
I have to say that I just love you. I love your writing. And I love this little essay in particular.  I didn’t get a chance to say how much I loved the little piece on “accepting vs. believing” and I’m hoping I’m still logged in enough to catch you this time.  You have really nailed something about Bachmann with your “hitting all the buttons of the elevator” observation. And you have correctly diagnosed the malaise and lethargy in the current round of attacks on the passport issue.  On top of your suggestions I would add: abandoned mothers (since they tend to focus on gay men and children and not two lesbian mothers), broken families, elitism, champagne swilling, and job killing.

aimai

Comment #10: aimai  on  01/08  at  03:22 PM

Holy fuck!

For the only second time in U.S. history, a U.S. Congressperson has been assassinated.

Gabriells Giffords, Democratic Congresswoman representing Arizona’s 8th Congressional District, was just shot and killed at a grocery store at a public evbent in Tucson, Arizona.

Fuck, fuck, fuck!

Comment #11: DTGslu2K  on  01/08  at  04:36 PM

Sorry, conflicting info… may not be dead, but in very grave condition, other reports say she’s in surgery, was shot in the head. Several others were also shot at the Safeway store where she was meeting constituents.

No idea who was behind it, but considering she’s a Democrat and represents an Arizona Congressional District, I got a feeling it’s an anti-immigrant bigot.

Comment #12: DTGslu2K  on  01/08  at  04:46 PM

She was on Sarah Palin’s hitlist. Arizona, home of the ‘second amendment solution’ and the real death penals. Sarah “Don’t retreat, reload” Palin. Watch the backpeddling begin.

  Local reporters are now saying she’s dead.

Comment #13: ginmar  on  01/08  at  04:51 PM

Congratulations, you vile fucking monster, you may have just cost a member of Congress her life.

In a website launched on Thursday, the six-month anniversary of the health care law, Palin puts a bull’s-eye on 20 House districts under a headline that reads, “We’ve diagnosed the problem…Help us prescribe the solution.”

Included among Palin’s Democratic targets: North Dakota’s at-large Rep. Earl Pomeroy, Southeast Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and Virginia Rep. Tom Perriello.

Do the country a favor and leave, you despicable Nazi.

Comment #14: DTGslu2K  on  01/08  at  04:58 PM

We shouldn’t speculate. If the left spends all day saying its a teabagger and it turns not just to be say, a disgruntled former employee we’ll look ridiculous.

Comment #15: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  05:25 PM

Still getting conflicting reports, hope she pulls through. Prior to today, Rep. Leo Ryan is the only U.S. Congressperson in American history killed in office - Jonestown, 1978.  I hope that remains true.

Comment #16: DTGslu2K  on  01/08  at  05:28 PM

Gee, I’m sure it was a liberal progressive black woman,  Ben D. Since when did nailing people for what they do become unfair? Oh, yeah, if they’re single while loser guys, that is. Remind me again how there was a sweep for young white guys after Oklahoma City?

Comment #17: ginmar  on  01/08  at  05:31 PM

Gee, I’m sure it was a liberal progressive black woman, Ben D.

???

I didn’t mean his description. We already know that.  I meant his motive.

Comment #18: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  05:34 PM

I agree with Ben @15, no-one knows enough yet and speculation might be tempting, but it’s also an opportunity to rise above the “here’s how I can arrange the facts to fit my pre-determined conclusion” schtick so beloved of right wingers.

Comment #19: brassknucklediplomat  on  01/08  at  05:37 PM

They released the name of the shooter. His name is Jared Laughner (sp)?

Comment #20: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  05:56 PM

Rep. Giffords is not dead, surgeon is very optimistic, though she was shot in the head. The bullet did go through her brain, so I cannot imagine she will ever fully recover, even if she survives.

Comment #21: DTGslu2K  on  01/08  at  06:03 PM

A nine year old child has died as a result of the shooting. God, this is horrible.

Comment #22: JulesAboutTown  on  01/08  at  06:12 PM

Suspect is 22yo white male, Jared Lee Loughner, here’s what appears to be his YouTube account:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/2/PnNx0WThoF0

Profile

Name:Jared Lee Loughner

Channel Views:271

Joined:October 25, 2010

Website:http://Myspace.com/fallenasleep

About Me: My name is Jared Lee Loughner!

Hometown:Tucson

Country:United States

Schools:I attended school: Thornydale elementary,Tortolita Middle School, Mountain View Highschool, Northwest Aztec Middle College, and Pima Community College.

Interests:My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college!

Movies:(*My idiom: I could coin the moment!*)

Music:Pass me the strings!

Books:I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

Comment #23: DTGslu2K  on  01/08  at  06:16 PM

Judge John Roll of Arizona is confirmed dead in the same shooting.

Comment #24: Ledasmom  on  01/08  at  06:18 PM

The text in his YouTube video is total gibberish.

Comment #25: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  06:22 PM

I can’t get any coherent thoughts from that video. Just gibberish about “english grammar structure” and “conscience dreaming”.

Seems more John Hinckley than Timothy McVeigh.

Comment #26: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  06:26 PM

Yeah, the shooter seems psychotic, if his YouTube page is any indication.

Comment #27: Captain Bathrobe  on  01/08  at  06:40 PM

Gifford´s office was vandalized in 2010, and during her re-election campaign in 2010, she was singled out as a target for Tea Partiers´ hateful rhetoric. 

So even if the assailant does not turn out to be some racist loser or Tea Party loser (or maybe an anti-immigration loser; one of the other victims according to the New York Times was a judge who heard immigration cases and who had previously received death threats), it is worth remembering that the Tea Party´s buffoonery, as well as the anti-immigration camp´s buffoonery, contributes to an environment in which violence by fringe losers is more likely to occur.

Comment #28: Luke  on  01/08  at  06:43 PM

We have peer-reviewed research that indicates that homosexuals only want to travel with children so they can take them to countries that practice socialism.

Real men don’t travel with children.

Real men travel to children…

Comment #29: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  01/08  at  06:45 PM

Just because he was insane doesn’t mean that no one is responsible for directing him.  He went up behind Congresswoman Giffords and shot her from about a foot away and then shot seventeen other people.  It was clearly an assassination attempt, it certainly was an attempt to stop what she believes in, and all the talk about gold and silver standards and sleepwalking and brainwashing doesn’t mean that all the other rhetoric by others didn’t affect this troubled and dangerous terrorist.

And it was Nevada where the “Second-Amendment Remedies” lady ran for the Senate.  I’m not proud of my home state of Arizona right now, but I don’t want to let Nevada get away without attribution.

Sarah Palin has blood on her hands, or else she wouldn’t be trying so hard to hide the postings from SarahPAC.  This event should finish her off as a political figure, but this is America.

Comment #30: 3letterjon  on  01/08  at  07:34 PM

A friend from high school said he was “far left” on twitter.

I wouldn’t call gold bugs “far left”, but whatever. This guys political views are a like an ink blot test.

Comment #31: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  07:44 PM

Guns, Mein Kampf, and Baggers aren’t ink blots. For fuck’s sake already.

Comment #32: ginmar  on  01/08  at  07:53 PM

Saying your favorite authors are Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler, George Orwell, Plato, and Ayn Rand sure sounds like “ink blot” to me as far as political views go.

Comment #33: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  08:07 PM

But yes, the rhetoric on the right can push these types over the edge. They’re partly responsible for this, regardless of his own political views.

Comment #34: Ben D.  on  01/08  at  08:07 PM

Guns, Mein Kampf, and Baggers aren’t ink blots. For fuck’s sake already.

True, but The Communist Manifesto and Siddhartha don’t exactly scream militia movement, either.

I honestly can’t get a handle on what sort of guy this was, though I think he seems legitimately mentally disturbed based on what little can be gleaned from the YouTube account.

In any case, I share the sentiment expressed by others that even if this guy wasn’t directly acting out based on the rhetoric of the Becks and Palins out there, their rhetoric does help to fuel the culture that promotes the belief that violence by the right is an appropriate response to political disagreement.

Bottom line, I’m inclined to believe that such tragic occurences like this one are far less likely to occur when people like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck don’t have so much influence on our political discourse.

Comment #35: DTGslu2K  on  01/08  at  08:32 PM

True, but The Communist Manifesto and Siddhartha don’t exactly scream militia movement, either.

The question, I suppose, is which books he was reading to educate his own views, which books he was reading in a “know thy enemy” fashion, and which books he was reading from a “hey, this looks relevant to my interests; I wonder if it will give me any gems of wisdom?” perspective.

Or, for that matter, the whole reading list could be carefully selected to give off an “elite/expert student of political theory, deeper than you” vibe.

Comment #36: Kyra  on  01/08  at  09:14 PM

I agree with Kyra. Looks like a pretty boiler plate “look at how well read I am” list. I very much doubt he cracked any of those books. He certainly didn’t have much in the way of formal education.

Clearly a very sick individual.

Comment #37: John Joel Glanton  on  01/08  at  09:20 PM

The Communist Manifesto and Siddhartha scream “Militia Movement” if you know people that are into that sort of thing. Some read that sort of thing for the same reason some of us might read Limbaugh, Palin, O’Reilly or Beck: To see what their political opposition is up to.

Of course he could have just been plain old crazy. A bunch of politicians and pundits calling for assassinations of officials they disagree with still shouldn’t be let off the hook. That kind of environment could easily lead to something like this, even if the person isn’t part of a specific political group.

Comment #38: JThompson  on  01/08  at  11:14 PM

He rants about the gold standard and is anti tax: teabagger with a dash of Paul tossed in.

WAtch the baggers scurry like crazy to disavow this asshole and the this shooting. 

And Jesus Christ somebody fired off a burst here on my block just now while I was writing this.

Comment #39: ginmar  on  01/08  at  11:22 PM

A bunch of politicians and pundits calling for assassinations of officials they disagree with still shouldn’t be let off the hook. That kind of environment could easily lead to something like this, even if the person isn’t part of a specific political group.

This. Even if he’s not directly connected to the teabaggers, so what? This violent rhetoric sends those least mentally stable over the edge first.

Comment #40: Ben D.  on  01/09  at  12:17 AM

The Arizona Daily Star is reporting that police believe he had an accomplice and are looking for a man in his 50s. Apparently they have photos or video that show him arriving with this person. Obviously, at this point there’s no way to know what that will turn into, but it does make you wonder if someone with their own agenda found a target for the shooter’s instability.

Comment #41: chingona  on  01/09  at  12:23 AM

From the Pima County Sheriff:

“The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And unfortunately, I think Arizona has become sort of the capital, we have beome the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry,” he said. “There’s reason to believe that this individual might have a mental issue, and I think that people who are unbalanced might be especially susceptible to vitriol.”

Comment #42: chingona  on  01/09  at  12:34 AM

“Some read that sort of thing for the same reason some of us might read Limbaugh, Palin, O’Reilly or Beck: To see what their political opposition is up to.”

Right, I visit Michelle Malkintented and Vox Day more than I do Daily Kos or Crooksandliars, just to see what they are up to.

Comment #43: Albert Cirrus  on  01/09  at  12:58 AM

Not to interrupt the Arizona shooting discussion, but no one caught the “joke” about “(This decision) was made to make homosexual couples feel more comfortable in rearing children”?

Comment #44: oldfeminist  on  01/09  at  01:57 AM

I don’t think these people would be the kind of people to notice a pun like that.  They have no sense of humor whatsoever, so the use of the term “rearing” was probably assidental, so there was no butt in-your-end-o.

Comment #45: Albert Cirrus  on  01/09  at  02:10 AM

I didn’t mean his description. We already know that.

The point? You missed it.  White men have a long history of killing people in politics—-and getting away with it.  Did Timothy McVeigh spark a national wave of suspicion of young white dudes?

“And friend on twitter said he was a liberal.”

A friend who couldn’t even spell his name correctly and who hadn’t spoken to him in four years. The right doesn’t even have straws to grasp at.

Comment #46: ginmar  on  01/09  at  04:29 AM

There’s a limitation on taking children across the border without two parents’ permission, because of how many have been taken outside of jurisdiction.  It’s possible for a child to end up with any number of parents - 0, 1, 2, more… - and the conservatives want to make it troublesome for any such child or parent that violates the ‘nuclear’ family… Even if it’s just because a parent died.  They don’t want people to remarry, adopt, and keep their parental rights.

Though I’d suggest mother/father/guardian.

Comment #47: Crissa  on  01/09  at  05:40 AM

White men have a long history of killing people in politics—-and getting away with it.

Yes, white men have a long history of killing people in politics, but I’m curious about what you mean by “and getting away with it”.

Are you talking throughout all of U.S. history? Sure.

Potential co-conspirators in the murders of JFK, MLK, and numerous civil rights figures in the 1960s? Sure.

But I’m not sure exactly who has recently “gotten away with killing people in politics” if you’re talking about the political violence in America over the past two decades.

I guess it makes sense if you are referring to U.S. leaders responsible for directing our military to invade foreign countries and kill foreign citizens.

As for the high-profile domestic terrorism perpetrated by white male wingnuts in recent years, I’m pretty sure they’ve all been killed or locked up, and at least a couple have been executed by our government, namely Tim McVeigh and Paul Hill.

I don’t dispute your claim that domestic political terrorism is primarily perpetrated by rightwing white males. I’m just not aware who has “gotten away with it” recently, unless you are talking about the wingnut assholes on the air who are fueling the flames - Bill O’Reilly referring to Dr. George Tiller as “Tiller the Baby Killer”, for instance. As for those who actually pulled the triggers in these violent attacks, I’m unaware of any currently roaming free in public.

Comment #48: DTGslu2K  on  01/09  at  05:43 AM

This is completely coincidental, but very eerie nonetheless…

The young girl killed in Saturday’s mass shooting in Tucson, Ariz. was the nine-year-old granddaughter of Phillies legend Dallas Green.

Christina-Taylor Green, born on Sept. 11, 2001, was shot and killed during a trip to a Tucson Safeway where she had hoped to meet U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. According to the Arizona Star, Green had gone to the Safeway with a neighbor who also was shot but is recovering from surgery.

This whole thing is so fucking awful. The latest news sounds like Giffords will survive, but the medical opinions seem to indicate that it’s highly unlikely she’ll ever recover completely. The bullet went completely through her brain, and I imagine she’s going to require significant lifelong care.

Comment #49: DTGslu2K  on  01/09  at  06:14 AM

@roscoe3680: I think she was referring to the fact that a white dude shooting someone is considered an isolated incident. The reaction by the media and general public would’ve been markedly different if the shooter had been Muslim or just plain not white. McVeigh and Roeder were just crazy dudes, but the DC sniper was a terrorist. (After we were certain he wasn’t Christian and wasn’t white.)

There’s also the people that potentially helped Tiller’s killer along that weren’t inconvenienced by an investigation because they were Christian and white. Had Scott Roeder been named Abdul Rahman Binyamin no expense would’ve been spared to track down the guy that loaned him a pencil in the third grade so we could accuse him of providing material aid to a terrorist.

Comment #50: JThompson  on  01/09  at  07:38 AM

JThompson @ #50:

Gotcha, and regarding white terrorists being consistently characterized as “lone nuts” whereas POC who perpetrate similar crimes being immediately labelled “terrorists”, you’re 100% right.

So to the extent that white perpetrators of political violence rarely have their political leanings blamed for their actions, yes, unfortunately that is pretty much always the case.

I don’t know Loughner’s exact political beliefs, but if they are rightwing, rest assured, the significance of those beliefs will be dismissed.

To this day, wingnuts refuse to acknowledge that Timothy McVeigh leaned to the political right. Granted, the same morons regularly try to claim that Adolf Hitler was actually a “leftist”.

Comment #51: DTGslu2K  on  01/09  at  07:55 AM

But yes, the rhetoric on the right can push these types over the edge. They’re partly responsible for this, regardless of his own political views.

We’re moving toward the point where the nutjobs are so empowered that there’s no real differentiation between them and the “mainstream” folks.  Somehow, all these Lone Wolves seem to be helping only one cause.

Comment #52: Punditus Maximus  on  01/09  at  07:59 AM

Oh my god, I’m listening to audio of the little girl’s father on CNN…

“She was born during a tragedy, and she died during a tragedy, but the nine years in between were very special. We were four people, but now we’re just three…” (his voice breaks down in tears)

RIP Christina-Taylor Green
September 11, 2001 - January 8, 2011

:(

Comment #53: DTGslu2K  on  01/09  at  08:10 AM

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik is a hero for saying exactly what needed to be said about the consequences of unchallenged violent rhetoric on the right. I’m sure he’ll be pilloried by wingnuts galore in the coming days for speaking the truth:

“When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”

———-SNIP———-

“And that’s the sad thing of what’s going on in America. Pretty soon, we’re not going to be able to find reasonable, decent people who are willing to subject themselves to serve in public office.”

Comment #54: DTGslu2K  on  01/09  at  08:55 AM

Without getting all conspiracy-theory here, I want to know about this second suspect.  White male in his 50s sounds like the Fox News demo.

Comment #55: Ben D.  on  01/09  at  02:31 PM

@Ben D.

A little young to be in the Fox demo, no?

Also w/r/t the OP, perhaps the homobigots aren’t bringing their best game anymore because they no longer have to.

Comment #56: mr_subjunctive  on  01/09  at  03:16 PM

A little young to be in the Fox demo, no?

Hah, I was being generous to Fox!

Comment #57: Ben D.  on  01/09  at  03:35 PM

mr_subjunctive:

If it wasn’t for the fact that the other side is a bunch of massive fucktards, that’d be a reasonable compromise. Unfortunately, in this context it’s giving into the fucktards.

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