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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes*

Apologies for the sexism of the term “cunts”.  Really, the British need to hop to using a more gender-neutral word for the concept.  Americans have a leg up in this department with the word “assholes”, which doesn’t, unfortunately, fit in the meter of this song.

The fact that the McCain campaign has resorted to a level of pants-on-fire lying, both about himself and especially about his opponent, has left me in the sort of funk that can only be treated by escapism.  I like Ezra’s analysis of how it’s gotten so bad, but honestly, I think his analysis explains more how low the media has gotten that they won’t call a lie a lie, proving how much they’ve sold out to the McCain campaign.  That’s unbelievable amounts of cynicism in the mainstream media. 

Am I more freaked out than when George Bush pants-on-fired lied to the public about Iraq, 9/11 and WMDs?  Well, that was five years ago, so it’s hard to say.  It sure felt different then.  I remember feeling very Cassandra-like, because I was absolutely positive that the Bush administration were lying straight up to get a war they’d planned before, but also that people I expressed this feeling to largely scoffed.  It seemed impossible that the administration would pants-on-fire lie, probably especially in light of the trust extended after the events of 9/11.  So while I was unbelievably frustrated to be treated like a bit loony, like a conspiracy theorist because I was so damn sure that they were lying, I think it was mildly comforting that most people bought the lie, because that meant that the mainstream media was at fault for being lazy and overly trusting, not that they were conspiring with the Bush administration to get us into war.


They can’t hide behind naivete any longer.  It’s obvious to anyone who knows anything about politics at all that McCain has resorted to blatant lying in order to win this election. Not bending or stretching the truth, or telling stinky lies by justifying them with some sort of technical truth claims (classic example: “I did not have sex with that woman”), refusing to tell the whole story or lying through using empty phrases that you don’t really care to live up to, like Bush did with “compassionate conservatism”.  These sorts of lies are sadly standard in politics.  No, McCain has crossed into a new territory of wild lying, just making shit up.

Since July, John McCain and his campaign have made 11 political claims that are barely true, eight that are categorically false, and three that you’d have to call pants-on-fire lies—a total of 22 clearly deceptive statements (many of them made repeatedly in ads and stump speeches). Barack Obama and Joe Biden, meanwhile, have put out eight bare truths, four untruths, and zero pants-on-fire lies—12 false claims.

 

Just like during the WMDs fiasco, my heart keeps yearning for someone to swoop in and correct the record, to shine the light of truth and make the lies shrivel up and die.  So much depends on this.  But that’s not going to happen.  I mean, you have Rachel Maddow on TV, and that’s a big help, because she’s willing to use the toxic but accurate word “liar”.  And the women on “The View” apparently let the truth about lying be spoken out loud.  But so far, we’re seeing a taboo forming around calling John McCain what he is—-a big, fat, motherfucking liar.

I’m confident in the Obama campaign, but even if they run the perfect campaign, they are handicapped by the media.  They’ve made a couple mistakes, but on the whole, it’s a tightly run, confident campaign.  And of course, they can’t turn around and lie right back.  They simply won’t be extended that privilege of being able to bald-faced lie without getting called on it, because they’re Democrats and probably because Obama is black.  The media would turn back on their referee duties if Obama started lying, so even if he wanted to (and that is not something I believe), he couldn’t return this fire.  The high road is the only option, and let’s hope the voters reward that. 

But what we’ve learned this campaign is that the mainstream media has completely abandoned even the pretense of ethical journalism.  Even during the run-up to the Iraq war, they could plead ignorance and terror of terrorism. Now, there’s no reason to coddle the liars, outside of complicity with the project to dismantle our democracy. 


*I just finished finally reading “The Watchmen” last night, after being told that I had to by everyone ever.  The ending is great, if depressing.  So much for my commitment to escapism, huh?  Anyway, thus the quote.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 03:00 PM • (42) Comments

Oddly enough, there is a sporting equivalent.  Years ago it was maddening, as a Canadian, to watch international games refereed by Europeans of any kind, East or West.  Violence only got called if it was by the Canadians: elbow up?  Two minutes in the box.  European brings the stick into a Canadian’s gut?  Not called.  The Dems have the same problem: their minors will be called as majors, and their opponents’ majors may be noted, but they will not be called.

Comment #1: seeker6079  on  09/14  at  03:45 PM

But so far, we’re seeing a taboo forming around calling John McCain what he is—-a big, fat, motherfucking liar.

You know it’s funny, but I feel like for the first time in a long time, the media is actually calling McCain and Palin out on some of their lies. 

Of course they’re only calling them out on the especially egregious stuff, which means the bullshit-as-usual stuff that isn’t a “pants on fire” lie seems truer, as if it’s been vetted and fact-checked and found to be legit.

All in all, I still have basically zero confidence that everything will turn out OK.  I’m really scared for November, and for the next 4 years and beyond.

Comment #2: The Opoponax  on  09/14  at  04:10 PM

It’s nice to know the Moody Blues are still recording…

Comment #3: Milo Johnson  on  09/14  at  04:31 PM

Nice try, but weak. Jarvis Cocker can actually write a good song, and scratching your ass to try and convince yourself otherwise to feel superior isn’t fooling anyone.

Comment #4: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/14  at  04:44 PM

I think the left in general needs to take a big, deep, giant breath, and chill.

We are not doomed to lose. Repeat, we are not doomed to lose.

Comment #5: Ben D.  on  09/14  at  04:52 PM

Part of me thinks the pervasive lies are the problem — a display of blatant contempt for the viewer/reader/listener who is thought to be so stupid and so easily manipulated they are virtually subhuman.

But then part me isn’t angry about the lies so much as I’m angry at the kind of person who knows they are being told lies and doesn’t care — either because the lies further the underlying political philosophy they are devoted to, or because they are too concerned with the appearance of appearing neutral.

I know what my mother would have said about people like that, and I know she wasn’t the only one who would have strongly disapproved.

Where did all of those people go?  Those people who would have seen the truth and would have quickly judged both the liars and their enablers?  What has happened to my country?...

Comment #6: MikeEss  on  09/14  at  04:56 PM

The Republicans always outperform the first half of September. I have no idea what it is, but they just do.

In 2006 even, the Democrats feel behind in the polls and the Republicans started crowing about how they were going to retain Congress while Democrats were freaking out and screaming about the sky falling.

Do I need to remind everyone how that turned out?

Comment #7: Ben D.  on  09/14  at  04:58 PM

I think we may be hitting a tipping point. Even Karl Rove said McCain has gone too far (which is just creepy and weird on multiple levels).

And I think this is substantially different from the Bushies lying us into Iraq. Back then, the lies were complicated, and it was difficult to find the truth. So, even though it was apparent to many of us that they were lying, the truth was buried in documents, not sitting in handy clips on YouTube.

McPalin’s lies, however, are much simpler. In most cases, it’s easy to juxtapose the lie with videotape or easily-confirmed bullet points showing the truth. It’s not only easy, it’s kind of fun. This is much sexier for the mainstream media. Easy and visual, the lazy talking head’s dream. Never underestimate the effect of laziness on the media’s willingness to cover anything.

Comment #8: Phoebe Fay  on  09/14  at  05:00 PM

Ben, you know what it is that has me feeling so deflated?

Seeing network news analysis bring in people with longtime connections to the Clintons, who still have a bee in their bonnet against Obama (probably for kicking their asses and not hiring them and proving their whole M.O. wrong), which creates an entire roundtable of braying jackass pundits who are all convinced that the Dems don’t have a chance in hell this year.

It’s some combination of the DLC-ers not being able to at least do their jobs and pay lip service to Obama, and the MSM idiots who think Clintonite = Dem = Obama Surrogate.  Or if they don’t think that, they openly have it out for the Obama campaign.  The fact that this stuff is so blatant scares me.  Maybe you’re right that it always happens this way, even when the Dems go on to win. 

But I’m still worried.  And I’m still going to go out and vote for Obama, and I’m still going to make sure all my friends and every liberal or Democrat I know does the same.  And I’m still going to have my fingers crossed for the swing states.  That doesn’t mean I can’t still have a pot of worry simmering on the back burner of my mind, though.

Comment #9: The Opoponax  on  09/14  at  05:16 PM

. . . people I expressed this feeling to largely scoffed.  It seemed impossible that the administration would pants-on-fire lie, probably especially in light of the trust extended after the events of 9/11.  So while I was unbelievably frustrated to be treated like a bit loony, like a conspiracy theorist because I was so damn sure that they were lying. . .

And if your experience is like mine:  my more-than-a-little-naive friends of that time—who accused me of overreacting—don’t seem to have very good recollections of that period.  The revisionism among all of the Liberals I know—even the ones that were not really paying attention in 2002—now claims that we were ALL aware of what was going on and could see the consequences of what was occurring.

I was shouting my head off.  They were sticking their heads in the sand.

Oh well—most Germans opposed the Nazis too (no?)

(Ben D: I wish I shared your optimism.  I don’t have any optimism left.  That part of my brain has been destroyed by eight years of abuse.)

Comment #10: already dead  on  09/14  at  05:19 PM

TO-

I know how you feel on the Clintonite thing (I can’t watch “This Week” with George Snuffulupagus
anymore for that reason), it drives me up the walls too. Though James Carville has been surprisingly good—he really, really, really hates Palin.

I’m volunteering to work in the local Obama office on weekends to go out and register voters (Virginia is a swing state now, at long last praise the Baby Jesus) and a ridiculous amount of young and black voters are being registered. The GOTV operation here is slick as hell, too. I think the polls are underestimating his support, because we’re talking about people who just didn’t vote before. At the very least it will cancel out the “Bradley effect” the jackasses on TV keep braying about.

McCain has the evangelical church network with Palin now, but I’ve been told it takes MONTHS to get this kind of GOTV operation set up and they’re starting way behind.

The polls will settle, too. Gallup has been McCain +5, then McCain +4, then +3, today +2. I like that trajectory.

Comment #11: Ben D.  on  09/14  at  05:25 PM

Oh, and since Democrats control the state Government here, the GOP can’t do any funny business with voter rolls. Tim Kaine is one of Obama’s best friends and he sure as hell isn’t gonna let that happen on his watch.

Comment #12: Ben D.  on  09/14  at  05:26 PM

We are not doomed to lose. Repeat, we are not doomed to lose.

I hope not.  But it’s frustrating that we are facing such unfair obstacles that we are helpless to overcome.

Comment #13: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/14  at  05:41 PM

But of course it’s totally possible to win with those obstacles in place.  But it will be despite them, because people are so sick of Republicans.  If Obama can win against such a stacked deck, well, I don’t know what I’ll do.  Admire the hell out of his political instincts for sure.

Comment #14: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/14  at  05:44 PM

The primary was a huge stacked deck, and he won out. Challenging Hillary Clinton in a primary is damn near as hard as challenging an incumbent President in a primary.

He’s already got Iowa in the bag, and very likely NM. Just won more state. It could be Colorado. Could be Virginia. Could be Ohio, or Florida. But McCain is going to have to be perfect if he wants to win.

The good news: Palin doesn’t help in Colorado or Virginia.

Comment #15: Ben D.  on  09/14  at  05:55 PM

I know Kerry and Gore just needed one more state, too, but they were both relying on ONE state and oen state only, which is the DLC thing to do.

Obama is relying on five.

Comment #16: Ben D.  on  09/14  at  05:57 PM

Actually, I ran thru a scenario yesterday where Obama can win the EC (by the narrowest of margins) even with him losing Ohio.

If Obama takes MI and PA (where I think he’ll pull off victories), and then CO and NM, in addition to the Midwest collar states (MN, IA, WI), he can win - even if McCain takes OH, FL, VA, and the rest of the south.

Comment #17: CHV  on  09/14  at  06:39 PM

Virginia goes blue way before Indiana. Virginia is going blue this year, period, mark my words.

Comment #18: Ben D.  on  09/14  at  09:22 PM

Amanda, do you just write this crap months in advance and then cut and paste it into your posts? Sounds like it.

Comment #19: Sharon  on  09/14  at  09:33 PM

Americans have a leg up in this department with the word “assholes”, which doesn’t, unfortunately, fit in the meter of this song.

Uh, ‘arsehole’, anyone? (But blame Dudley Moore.)

This is a real structural problem in the American press. There’s a stylistic corset around news copy that brings suffocation when dealing with blatant, in-your-face lying.

Comment #20: pseudonymous in nc  on  09/14  at  09:43 PM

“Amanda, do you just write this crap months in advance and then cut and paste it into your posts? Sounds like it.”

Sharon, Love Nuggets, have you ever tried using your head to learn and think instead of just spew Reichwing talking points?...

Comment #21: MikeEss  on  09/14  at  09:48 PM

“Shits” works as well as “cunts” and is non-gender specific.

Comment #22: jimp1947  on  09/14  at  09:53 PM

I think Sharon is a script written months ago, that’s fer shure.

Amanda - are you going to write up anything about Watchmen?  I know Auguste and I aren’t the only dweebs around here . .

Comment #23: idiosynchronic  on  09/14  at  10:08 PM

Also “pricks” works as well as cunts. And no, NOT the same problem in reverse.

Comment #24: Gar Lipow  on  09/14  at  10:09 PM

I caught part of an interesting discussion on NPR the other day (unfortunately I don’t know which show) in which the interviewer and his guest debated whether or not John McCain’s constant lying makes him a liar or not.  It was strange.  Everyone involved seemed to agree that he lies.  A lot.  It was basically a debate about whether or not it was a bad thing.

Comment #25: laterose  on  09/14  at  11:12 PM

To use a British insult:

“Sharon, you ignorant ponce!”

Comment #26: The Dark Avenger and Guardian of 10 Gold Chow Mein  on  09/14  at  11:33 PM

I’m waiting for Sharon to slip up and accidentally mention some other blogger’s name when addressing Amanda—the tell-tale sign that she’s cutting and pasting these comments all over liberal blogs.  That would crack my shit up.

Comment #27: keshmeshi  on  09/14  at  11:37 PM

Sharon, your keepers need to get you away from a keyboard.  You’re embarrassing yourself.  This post is rooted in recent big whooping lies that McCain has told.  I realize that it’s hard for you to be on the side of sleazy liars, but you know what?  I don’t really pity you.  It’s your choice.  You could be a decent, moral human being.  But you’ve chosen otherwise.

Comment #28: Amanda Marcotte  on  09/15  at  12:05 AM

Now, I get it.  We already knew lying was the strategy, but we didn’t know why, beyond the real Republican desperation this year, addicts willing to do literally anything for their continued fix.

But because the arch-demon, itself, Rove, ‘admitted’ that McCain is lying too much, the Republican uber-strategy becomes clear, the great white whale unwittingly showing his tell.

The Republican uber-strategy is to use lying to dishearten and cause confusion among their political and media enemies; to slyly obfuscate the meaning of a close election, thereby keeping it close and confusing enough to steal; but MAINLY to showcase McCain’s two mythical strengths, even while his mental acuity fails:

1) He loves his country soooooooooo much that he’s willing to lie to get to lead it in these dangerous, fearful, boogeyman times.  He hates having to do it, but he’s willing to in order to put his country first. What a patriot!  Wow, what determination!  What sacrifice!  What a crock!

2) He is such a big giant incorrigible elephant-sized Maverick (TM) that he wouldn’t let little things like common decency, tradition, honor, and a soul get in the way of his chance to serve the country he loves [resents], serve the American people whom he respects [loathes], and serve the cause of keeping der homeland safe, which he knows only he the Maverick (TM) is capable of doing [by starting wars, igniting paranoia, and creating decades more of terrorism blowback].

In other words, he’s forced to lie out of love of country and because God made him so darned mavericky.  Ahh, poor John, suffering more slings and arrows for his country’s sake.  Why does God torment him so?

Rove’s ‘admission’ subliminally (I’m reclaiming this word) directs the cowed journalistic herd in this general “country-loving, mavericky” direction [mooooo], which in turn further neuters the news media, and in the absence of actual sustained media criticism convinces the gullible of the public that lying must be okay - even good! - and that McCain must have a good reason.  It’s all subconscious, and meanwhile they try to bring down Obama with all the Lilliputian slings and arrows from shameless crazy-ass spokesmodel GOPers backed by the ads and emails.

Well, I previously was afraid that it might work, and it might, but I no longer am afraid.  It’s the same decadent shit presidential campaigns pulled in the first half of the 19th century, the wild claims, the utter character assassinations.  And the U.S. survived, it kicked the unrepentant-to-this-day Confederacy’s slavery-loving asses, and it will triumph again over the racist Southern strategy writ large, probably this year [by an African-American!], and for certain in years to come.

The American people may be overall slow or way too trusting [stupid], due mainly these days to being kept barefoot and pregnant [Sarah Phyllis Palin-Schlafly, Sarah Phyllis Palin-Schlafly] by the Big Money Men [white men, who else!?] enriching themselves BY sabotaging the economy and pulling up the economic safety nets out of the reach of so many of us, but we’re not fools, not forever.

Hopefully, Rove’s whole house of dung will be pulled down on his [five-strand combover) and his fellow assholes’ heads (that’s some fucked-up asshole vote caging and other such traitorous stuff going on, isn’t it?).  That will be fun to see, almost as much fun as the whole bunch of them in the docks at The Hague, though I would settle for Leavenworth (is that still open?).

No fear, none at all.

Comment #29: Larry Piltz  on  09/15  at  12:20 AM

Amanda - are you going to write up anything about Watchmen?  I know Auguste and I aren’t the only dweebs around here . .

I assume everyone has seen this?

I know I have.

Comment #30: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  09/15  at  01:50 AM

Larry, I think it’s actually much more simple.

People who are already in the Republican base are going to see all this “McCain is actually LYING!!!” stuff as just more liberal media bias. 

People who are on the fence are going to say, “Well the Democrats do it, too.”

And then you have the racists who aren’t going to vote for Obama regardless.  And yes, there are some people who would normally vote Dem who are amazingly enough in this camp (which probably explains why Florida is not a swing state this year). 

There are also probably some women who are politically naive enough to vote for the ticket with a vagina, just ‘cause, regardless of anything else.

McCain’s hope is that those groups combined are going to outnumber Obama’s whippersnappers and elitists, ., and that blatant bald-faced lies that are mendacious enough to be spotted by the MSM aren’t going to make a dent in that.  I think he’s wrong, or at least I hope beyond hope that he’s wrong.  But that’s a general rundown.

Comment #31: The Opoponax  on  09/15  at  09:55 AM

Florida is still a swing state. It’s within MOE, consistently.

Comment #32: Ben D.  on  09/15  at  10:55 AM

But it shows up pink in every map I’ve seen so far, and I believe it’s been polling consistently in favor of McCain.  Not saying Obama doesn’t have a teensy shot at it (I’m hoping a nice Palin related October surprise will knock a lot of those pink states into Obama’s camp).  But it’s not in play this year nearly as much as it was in 2000 and 2004.

Comment #33: The Opoponax  on  09/15  at  11:26 AM

He should play there no matter what, though, because if McCain loses Florida there is no realistic scenario where he gets to 270. It’s just too big of a prize. If Florida were blue, the Democrats would win 4/5 of the largest states in the country. Game over.

Comment #34: Ben D.  on  09/15  at  11:35 AM

I hadn’t seen the cellphone video of the trailer with the alternate music.  Creepy.  Which is what Watchmen should be.  Thanks, Phoenician.

Comment #35: idiosynchronic  on  09/15  at  12:36 PM

He should play there no matter what, though, because if McCain loses Florida there is no realistic scenario where he gets to 270.

I agree.  Alls I’m saying is that racism is making the battle harder than it should be this year.  Which isn’t at all to say that it’s impossible—I was pissed off as all hell at people back in november and december who said that Obama would never win a single primary because of his race, and I’d feel the same about anyone saying he can’t win now for similar reasons.  But it does change the look of the map.  Not even in Obama’s disfavor, either.

Comment #36: The Opoponax  on  09/15  at  01:12 PM

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Alas, while it has become an inspirational rallying cry in modern times, in Juvenal’s original context this statement was downright reprehensible. Bad enough that many Romans of that era, not the least patriarchal people ever, found it a bit overly misogynistic.

Satire VI translated into a Precious Roy segment:

Ollius: Folks, Romans, countrymen… do you have troubles keeping your innately slutish wife locked up and out of other guys’ beds?

Siflus: Man, you know the guarding-my-wife issues I’ve had.

Ollius: Dude, you have had some serious-ass guys-not-being-trustworthy-enough-to-guard-your-tramp-of-a-wife problems!

Siflus: Well what can Precious Decimus do for me?

Ollius: Just check out Precious Decimus’s new Watchmen Chastity Belts…

Comment #37: Sarcastro  on  09/15  at  01:27 PM

I’m starting to rethink my default position of ‘Sweet baby jesus, the American voters are so far beyond stupid, the light from stupid will only reach them in…never.’* It was one thing when Bush stole his first election, but you voted him in on purpose the second time! But now I’m starting to wonder if they aren’t just busy. How many people have time to fact-check the things that politicians say? People should reasonably be able to expect the media to do the fact-checking, and report the truth, as well as telling us who is lying. That is their job-it is not their job uncritically parrot press releases, or worse-praise politicians for their lies. I can’t wait to see how they ‘report’ on McCain’s newest plank in the platform: Five hundred thousand dollars, and a unicorn for every American citizen. Will they talk about how he really understands the dreams of the average American?

*I’m being hyperbolic and exaggerating.

Comment #38: JPlum  on  09/15  at  01:29 PM

TO-

Oh, I think so too. Hillary Clinton probably could have won West Virginia and make a shot at Kentucky (Appalachia likes the Clintons). But she would have had no shot in Virginia, North Carolina, or Indiana, and the upper Midwest would have been much shakier. So it’s a wash.

Comment #39: Ben D.  on  09/15  at  01:54 PM

And here’s good news, survey USA Virginia

Obama 50
McCain 46

A week ago it was tied. Obama leads in every region except Appalachia and the Valley, tied among men and leads handily among women.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=c3b77d5f-0d1a-4f6e-b195-ae05355e8eb8

Apparently Palin hurts among men.

Comment #40: Ben D.  on  09/15  at  02:09 PM

But it shows up pink in every map I’ve seen so far, and I believe it’s been polling consistently in favor of McCain.  Not saying Obama doesn’t have a teensy shot at it… But it’s not in play this year nearly as much as it was in 2000 and 2004.

Floridian checking in.  Our (very sizeable) minority population is energized for Obama in a way I’ve never seen before.  I really think the GOTV strategy here may make a big difference come November, in a way that may not be showing up in the polls right now.

Comment #41: Lee  on  09/15  at  03:11 PM

Lee, are the Cubans still in the Republican’s back pocket or has that changed?

Comment #42: Ben D.  on  09/15  at  03:48 PM
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