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Rachel takes on the bible-beater misogyny of Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall

It was clear that the Commonwealth of Virginia was going to take a turn for the worse politically when openly wingnut and ant-gay Bob McDonnell pulled the wool over enough voter eyes to slide into the governor’s chair. It gave fringe wingnuts and Dominionists like lawmaker Bob Marshall free rein to spew scripture-laden insanity as public policy.

Rachel Maddow took on the hate Marshall harbors for women’s reproductive freedom and, by association, disabled children. Even worse, he cited the Bible to justify his remarks in the context of blocking state funding for Planned Parenthood.

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow on Monday assailed a series of recent moves in Virginia under new Gov. Bob McDonnell, citing the rising influence of the Christian right in exacerbating “discrimination” against gays and women.

Maddow was dumbstruck by state legislator Bob Marshall (R-Manassas), who declared Monday that children born with disabilities are God’s “vengeance” for abortion, quoting scripture to make his case.

“The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,” Marshall said, according to the Capital News Service

A speechless Maddow noted that Marshall stood by his remarks when contacted by her producers. “This is the argument he’s using as an elected official to…cut off any state support for Planned Parenthood,” she said.

 

McDonnell, by the way, apparently tried to rein in the bad PR that he brought upon himself by assuming everyone is a demented “Christian” as himself. So out came the “clarification.”

A story by Capital News Service regarding my remarks at a recent press conference opposing taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood conveyed the impression that I believe disabled children are a punishment for prior abortions. No one who knows me or my record would imagine that I believe or intended to communicate such an offensive notion[.] I regret any misimpression my poorly chosen words may have created[.]

As Right Wing Watch points out, this man has a history of attempts to roll back beyond-offensive statements he’s made, but there’s no misimpression when you go to the videotape…

Marshall is entitled to his offensive views, but he should not run from them.

It’s worth noting that Marshall has a history of saying offensive things – or being “misinterpreted.”

He said this about abortion in the case of rape: “[T]he woman becomes a sin-bearer of the crime, because the right of a child predominates over the embarrassment of the woman.”

And he said this about contraception: “[W]e have no business passing this garbage out and making these co-eds chemical Love Canals for these frat house playboys in Virginia.”

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 04:31 PM • (27) Comments

“[T]he woman becomes a sin-bearer of the crime, because the right of a child predominates over the embarrassment of the woman.”

Wow, he managed to blame the victim, trivialize the trauma of rape, and minimize the burden of pregnancy/childbirth, all in one sentence.  He should get some kind of jackass award.

Is he really suggesting that women should be embarrassed by someone else raping them?  And does he think the only reason women have abortions is to avoid embarrassment?  What a giant freaking douche!

“[W]e have no business passing this garbage out and making these co-eds chemical Love Canals for these frat house playboys in Virginia.”

And of course he’s reinforcing his view that sex is something that only men enjoy, and that it’s something women give to men.  He has never considered that a woman might actually want sex for her own enjoyment, and that she might not want a pregnancy or a husband to accompany it.  Women’s sexuality just doesn’t exist for this guy.

Comment #1: bananacat  on  02/24  at  04:46 PM

Not to mention that something like 98% of people in this country use contraception. He is insulting tons of proper married Christian ladies with his spew. I have no idea why certain wingers act like birth control is weird and non-mainstream when it is a normal fact of life, even for conservative Christians.

Comment #2: Yawgmoth  on  02/24  at  04:54 PM

I have no idea why certain wingers act like birth control is weird and non-mainstream when it is a normal fact of life, even for conservative Christians.

Probably for the same reason they act like pre-marital sex is weird and non-mainstream even though 97% of Americans aren’t virgins on their wedding night.  Either they have major delusions, or they’re trying to make everyone feel guilty at once.

In his case, I don’t think he sees birth control as weird; he just sees it as only benefiting men who can now have sex without risking a pregnancy and shotgun wedding or child support payments.  He sees it as bad for women because he thinks that they only want marriage and babies, and that sex is their only weapon to trick men into it, and that weapon is taken away from them with birth control.  Again, he’s delusional if he thinks all the woman taking the Pill were strong-armed or tricked into doing it by men who are just using them.

Comment #3: bananacat  on  02/24  at  05:18 PM

I apologize for this, but my immediate reaction was ” Oooh, ‘Chemical Love Canal’ would be a great name for a big, sprawling concept album.”

I have no further, or better comment, as the foulness of this man belies my comprehension.

Comment #4: blackcurrants  on  02/24  at  05:23 PM

bob mcdonnell is a born-again asshole. he got elected because his democratic opponent ran such a poorly conceived campaign, it’s amazing he got any votes at all.

del. marshall is merely another in a long line of political nimrods in recent va history. bear in mind, va is the home of liberty and regent university, spanning my fair commonwealth with right-wingnutreligiousfundiness like cheese whiz on a hotdog.

if there is a god, marshall will one day be hit by a bolt of lightning, while being run over by a mac truck.

Comment #5: cpinva  on  02/24  at  05:33 PM

Obviously, Marshall’s mother must have done something to seriously piss off God.

Comment #6: DrDick  on  02/24  at  05:39 PM

“Chemical Love Canal” is not only a great band name, but it also reminds me of Douthat.

See, these sluts take chemicals that then KILL THE SPERM!!!!!!  (Yeah, that’s not what happens medically, but it fits the metaphor—plus without an egg, sperm will die off)

Sex is only appropriate if the woman is totally willing to accept the man’s live sperm and give the little homonculi a home in her womb.  Sex is sinful enough outside of marriage, but to think that women might actually be able to want and enjoy sex for themselves AND be able to avoid unwanted pregnancy is really beyond the pale.

this guy’s a sicko.  His next opponent needs to replay this video over and over, so that no matter how he tries to walk it back, it’s perfectly obvious he’s a waste of carbon.

Comment #7: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  02/24  at  05:44 PM

So, wait, he’s worried contraceptives will turn women’s vajayjays into chemically toxic environments, which is a bad thing mainly because of the harm it could cause to penises?

Won’t someone please think of the poor Virginia frat boys?

Comment #8: cycles  on  02/24  at  05:55 PM

If Rachel Maddow was “dumbstruck” and “speechless”, how did she “note that Marshall stood by his remarks &c;&c;” at the same time? Did she hold up title cards?

Those words DO NOT mean “surprised.” They do not mean “shocked” or “horrified.” They mean “so shocked/surprised/horrified/whatever that YOU STOP BEING ABLE TO TALK, AT WHICH POINT, YOU ARE SILENT AND NOT TALKING.”

</writery nitpicking>

Comment #9: thecynicalromantic  on  02/24  at  06:04 PM

I assume the “dumbstruck” to be temporary as it is seperated by an entire paragraph from the “noted”.  Agreed that “speechless” and “noted” have been put in the sentence as if concurrent, not a possibility.

Comment #10: helen w. h.  on  02/24  at  06:09 PM

It was clear that the Commonwealth of Virginia was going to take a turn for the worse politically when openly wingnut and ant-gay Bob McDonnell pulled the wool over enough voter eyes to slide into the governor’s chair.

Of course things are going to go batshit crazy when you’ve got someone in office who is a wingnut gay ant. </crap joke>

Given all the evidence of his asshattery and powerful ability to insult just about everyone in every demographic, I’m inclined to think that Bob just hates everyone, but hates them with interest if they are not white, cis, rich, and male. That’s probably stating the obvious, but it is worthy to discuss in not at all cynical terms just how apathetic the voting public must be in order to have elected such a douche into a position of power, and, if it turns out he was elected because of a mass brain fart, why they aren’t beating down the doors at the polling station to get rid of him.

Comment #11: Princess Rot  on  02/24  at  06:38 PM

I think its important to point out wherever this story crops up that out of all the reporters who attended this press conference (or whatever it was) only a student reporter bothered to actually report on these remarks.  If she hadn’t broken this story no one would know about it.  Kudos to her and shame on all the other reporters who didn’t think his ridiculous argument was newsworthy.

Comment #12: carovee  on  02/24  at  07:13 PM

Virginia is sadly confused between being a modern metropolitan state and Mississippi.  This just pushes Jindal to be the only viable national candidate left for the republicans in 2012.  McDonnell is really not helping him win votes with women, decent human beings, and most forms of life.

Comment #13: Xeranar  on  02/24  at  07:29 PM

I’m a little confused here. Is Bob Marshall saying that St. Sarah had had an abortion, and that’s why little Trig has Down syndrome? Trig is God’s punishment for, as I understand it, Palin’s attempt to cover up an illicit relationship—with, perhaps, an age-progressed version of a Virginia fratboy—by destroying its fruit?

Comment #14: Hector B.  on  02/24  at  07:35 PM

It may be worth noting that, between his House of Delegates website, his campaign website and his Wikipedia page, the only job mentioned (on the Wikipedia page) as what he did for a living before being elected was on the staff of the American Life League. 

Apparently sticking his nasty little nose into other peoples’ bedrooms is all he’s ever done. So a history of him saying offensive things isn’t all that surprising.

Comment #15: Molly, NYC  on  02/24  at  09:52 PM

I’m a little confused here. Is Bob Marshall saying that St. Sarah had had an abortion, and that’s why little Trig has Down syndrome? Trig is God’s punishment for, as I understand it, Palin’s attempt to cover up an illicit relationship—with, perhaps, an age-progressed version of a Virginia fratboy—by destroying its fruit?

Well, if he’s saying it has to be the “first born” and Palin didn’t abort her “first” then Trig Palin is a “gift” from God to Sarah Palin so that she may have a good prop to use during her campaigns. And if he’s not a gift then he’s a test from god to see just how well Palin stands by her convictions. Or it just took god a really long time to get around to smiting Sarah Palin. Something like that. They’re liars and hypocrites so who knows what craziness lurks in their minds.

Comment #16: UltraMagnus  on  02/25  at  12:27 AM

I’m actually kind of surprised Manassas still has that kind of demographic that would elect a slug posing as a man.  Last time I was there it was rapidly becoming yuppie central as people are spreading further and further out of DC looking for a little bit of land to spread out upon with their mini malls and starbucks.

Comment #17: Amalink  on  02/25  at  12:31 AM

I have a friend who works in Richmond media who covered this speech- he got lost in the weeds adding an interview with someone from richmond PP who was pointing out that they haven’t gotten any money from the state of virginia since 2007, when they got roughly a quarter million for primary care / non-reproductive services.

Comment #18: Indy  on  02/25  at  12:37 AM

I… can’t even make sense of the “Love Canal” thing. There is a point to what he is saying, but it escapes me.

Comment #19: BrianX  on  02/25  at  12:43 AM

This just pushes Jindal to be the only viable national candidate left for the republicans in 2012.

Which means that all the Democrats have to do is keep running the start of that reply to the SOTU address again and again, with references to “30 Rock”.  If the man makes a fool out himself on public TV, it would be criminal not to hammer him with it in any campaign.

Comment #20: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  02/25  at  01:07 AM

I loved the Biblical smackdown.  The abortion of “first borns” (I love new oxymorons) is actually Biblically sanctioned.  Asshat.

Comment #21: speedbudget  on  02/25  at  10:38 AM

Does anyon else find VA,NC & SC politics has the same power to fascinate as a train wreck (or curling, though that at least feels zennish)?

Comment #22: helen w. h.  on  02/25  at  11:03 AM

BrianX @19, I’m surprised you find it difficult to comprehend the image of a woman becoming a “chemical Love Canal”.

He’s combining the infamous Love Canal scandal* with a vile (dare I say “toxic”?) pun, saying that a woman is a canal = a cunt = good for only one thing, but not even good for that function if she’s all full of chemical thingies.  It’s possibly the most demeaning and loathsome term I’ve ever heard used to describe a woman, and that’s saying rather a lot.

* Apparently now even Republicans are willing to admit that private property owners are not entitled to bury toxic waste and then build houses on top of it.

Comment #23: Dr. Psycho  on  02/25  at  02:10 PM

And of course let’s not forget his purpose in delivering this rant: less money for PP, which means less medical care for women, including less prenatal care. He wants more dead women, more dead and deformed babies.

Comment #24: paul  on  02/25  at  04:16 PM

Why do fundies all look like douchebags? Mitch McConnell, Rick Santorum, James Dobson; it’s as if there is a certain gene running through them.

Comment #25: pitbullgirl65  on  02/25  at  04:25 PM

try living here helen:

“Does anyon else find VA,NC & SC politics has the same power to fascinate as a train wreck”

in va at least, we have the eclectic combination of highly educated/high tech, with poorly educated/fundies, in the same neighborhoods. it explains the attempts to ban books in libraries, in fairfax county, va, home to one of the highest rated public high schools in the country, and a plethora of lawyers, mba’s and computer geeks.

go figure.

Comment #26: cpinva  on  02/25  at  06:06 PM

Oh, the American Life League - all is explained. This is the group that is opposed to contraception because, wait for it: it causes more abortions. Because, see, if you used contraception you didn’t want to get pregnant so if you do anyway you’ll get an abortion, so contraception causes abortion, QED!

Comment #27: mythago  on  02/26  at  01:47 AM
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